• MCCAIN: I think we supported Mubarak for so long because he was our steadfast ally. He helped us in Middle East, in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process. He was helpful against our fight against Al-Qaeda. There are many reasons why he was a close ally.



    But we left out the fact that he continued to have an autocratic rule. Sooner or later, whether it be in the streets of Tehran or whether it be in Egypt or Tunisia, human yearnings are universal. And sooner or later particularly in these days of instant communication and spread of knowledge and information, that's going to happen. You cannot keep the lid on without it blowing off.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Let me switch to back home. Health care, that certainly is something that is a fierce topic here in the United States Senate. What is going to happen?

    MCCAIN: Well, we are going to lose a vote. We lost a vote today on repeal of "Obamacare." Now we are going to go at it piece by piece. Still a majority of the American people don't like the bill. I was very pleased to see the president's state of the union saying he's ready to work on medical malpractice reform. I was stunned, because we tried that for so long and were rejected by the Democrats.

    So, I think that over time, we will probably have a pretty good shot at dismantling Obamacare. And this latest court decision I think has impacted the process already. And most experts I know think it may be upheld by the United States Supreme Court.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Here's the big fat lie about the Supreme Court. They could decide that case in 30 or 60 days and put all of us out of our misery one way or the other, whether it is constitutional or not, and this is going to drag on for years and cost lots of money, no matter what preparations we make whether for it or it, depending on the ruling.

    The Supreme Court has a rule where they can reach down and grab it now and decide this once and for all. And yet this is going to drag on.

    MCCAIN: Let's hope the Supreme Court, as in Gore-Bush case and others realize this is an issue that they should take up on an expedited process. Given everything that is at stake, I would hope they would consider that. But they've done things that I don't understand in the past.

    VAN SUSTEREN: It would be so much more efficient, because we know everyone agrees that's where going to be decided. And why do we want to spend years going in a particular direction that could be wrong for whatever the ruling would be. Why don't we use old fashioned common sense and let them decide it?

    MCCAIN: Next time I see one of the Supreme Court justices, I will convey your message. And I'm in total agreement.