• With: Newt Gingrich

    And if you watch what is happening there's a steady drift from the United States at a time when the president is signaling his desire to get out as fast as he can and potentially faster than the generals think is safe.

    VAN SUSTEREN: I sort of thought the president was listening to his generals and taking advice from the commanders in the field. Today, there was a question and answer with Senator Lindsey Graham in which it seemed to indicate that the president's option was not recommended by the generals.

    GINGRICH: I thought Senator Graham did a good job today. Generals have an obligation to answer honestly, if asked the right question they will never volunteer. They shouldn't. In the way the senator set it up was right. Neither General Petraeus nor any other senior general recommended this speed and scale of withdrawal.

    The danger is twofold. The first is, the president is now signaling to the world we are getting out. The French are getting out faster. NATO forces will draw down quickly. If you are the Afghans and Pakistanis, do you want to rely on the United States or look around the region and look at China, look at Iran and say, gosh, maybe I better find a new ally because maybe the Americans are going to be gone.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Do you think the president will revisit his draw down in light of what happened today?

    GINGRICH: I think the president is under enormous pressure from the anti-war left. They thought they nominated him and beat Senator [Hillary] Clinton in order to get somebody who is much more anti-war. Instead he's given them an additional war in Libya. He's under some reelection pressure.

    VAN SUSTEREN: I guess when it comes to war the last thing we want to do is accuse people of acting for political reasons.

    GINGRICH: You should go to the White House and ask the president why did he overrule all his generals? What is his rationale? What secret knowledge does he have that leads him to overrule his generals? He seems determined to have the drawdown finished by sometime next year. Why? What is the magic of the dates the president is picking? I don't have an answer.

    VAN SUSTEREN: I'd love to have him come here. I would love to ask him that question.

    To your campaign, how is the campaign going?

    GINGRICH: Much better. We've been gradually recovering from the consultants who left us in debt and since they've been gone we've been raising more than we've been spending.

    More importantly we had today the three Huckabee co-chairman for Georgia all endorse me. We are now seeing people come our way in a serious way. I'll be in Iowa for 16 days in July and August, including being at the Clear Lake parade on the 4th of July. So I'm looking forward to it. We had a good trip to Iowa last Saturday.

    This going to be a long campaign. On my side it is going to be a substantive campaign about how to create jobs, renew American exceptionalism.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Everyone says create jobs. How do you convince voters that you know how to create jobs better than somebody else?

    GINGRICH: You have to have a plan, which I do. Starting with tax cuts and deregulation and an American energy policy many second, I worked with Reagan in the late 70s, early 80s and he created an enormous wave of new jobs. In 1994 I became speaker and we followed the same strategy of lower taxes, less regulation, welfare reform, and we brought unemployment down from 5.6 to under four percent.

    VAN SUSTEREN: So how come you aren't killing everybody in the polls in Iowa?

    GINGRICH: It is going to take time. In 2007, Giuliani and Clinton were going to be the nominees. At this table in 1979 Teddy Kennedy was beating Ronald Reagan by 60-30.

    I'm convinced over time people will know we are in real trouble. They also know people are very worried about the radicalism of this president, the values he represents. I think it is a combination of an economic policy reasserting American exceptionalism and having serious about national and Homeland Security.

    Having done this before, if you go back to 1994, nobody in the city thought I was going to become speaker. Nobody thought the Republicans were going to be a majority.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Mr. Speaker, thank you, sir.

    GINGRICH: Thank you.