• With: Sen. John McCain

    If they at least, you know, nodded towards us or asked us or did something, they would at least give us cover to go in there. But we've got the Arab League just sitting on the sidelines on this!

    MCCAIN: Well, the Arab League has never been known for its courage, but they're the ones who are assisting -- certainly Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE and others are assisting the Free Syrian Army a heck of a lot more effectively than we are and giving them help that we have not given them.

    And by the way, I understand the request by the Free Syrian Army for gas masks has been refused by the United States, by our CIA and our government. Isn't that incredible? All I can tell you is that America must lead, and America is not leading and that's apparent to every nation in the region.

    And the Arab League not signing on is an indication of their lack of trust that the United States will do what's necessary. Maybe just they're worried, as I am, that it'll just be a cosmetic -- a few cruise missiles and then stop.

    VAN SUSTEREN: In light of the fact that this has now been -- this is all open, everyone's talking about it. There are no big secrets about what we are planning to do or might do -- maybe the specifics, but generally -- why not do as Senator Rand Paul has suggested and have a robust debate in Congress about this, rather than having this sort of shuttle diplomacy, sending people to Capitol -- Capitol -- or to the White House to talk?

    Why not lay this out so the American people can see what the national security allegations or suggestions are by various members of the House and the Senate?

    MCCAIN: Well, I'm not opposed to that. And we can have the speaker and the majority leader call Congress back from recess. That is their -- within their authority, and begin that debate. So I suggest that Senator Paul address that to Speaker Boehner and Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell. I'm not against that.

    But I am against delaying reacting to what is a massacre of a thousand people. You saw these pictures of these dead children. Come on! This is horrific! We can't stand by and watch this happen!

    VAN SUSTEREN: When was the last time that you spoke with President Obama about this, or have you even had sort of an audience with him or a conversation with him about Syria?

    MCCAIN: I had a brief conversation a few days ago, and I had a conversation with the vice president today, which was an extended conversation. And I made my points, just as I am making them to you.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Senator, thank you very much. And of course, we're all watching to see what happens in the next days and weeks to come. Thank you, sir.

    MCCAIN: Thank you, Greta.

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