• With: Donald Trump

    TRUMP: I know some of the people over there. I actually know the people at MSNBC in terms of the top people because I have "Apprentice" on NBC, and I know them well and have a lot of respect. Should they call me I would give them ideas a lot better than what they have on now. All you have to do is watch MSNBC and you can be a seven-year-old child and tell them what they are doing wrong. It's pretty pathetic.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Is the appetite for the news change or -- appetite for news changing or people sick of politics?

    TRUMP: I think their politics are wrong. In politic politics in many cases are perceived as dishonest so people aren't trusting.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Dishonest or you just don't agree with them?

    TRUMP: I don't think it's that. I think people aren't trusting them. When they don't trust, you don't watch. You had the great Walter Cronkite. When you watched him, you trusted him. He was like your father. It never forget, to me he was the ultimate. Edward R. Murrow was great but I didn't see him. I watched Walter Cronkite. He was something special. You watched him and you trusted him and you believed in him. Therefore, you watched. With MSNBC, I don't think people believe it. They look at what they are saying. They don't have confidence in him and therefore they don't watch.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Isn't there room for a diverse opinion on all sorts of issues, whether political -- I guess not -- the facts are the facts whatever they are. But a lot of the political discussion, doesn't it enrich to us have a diverse argument about, or a diverse debate?

    TRUMP: Diversity is great, diverse debate is fantastic. You have to be believable on both sides. And in certain cases they're not believable.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Donald, thank you for joining us.

    TRUMP: OK, thank you, Greta.

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