• With: Sen. Lindsey Graham

    VAN SUSTEREN: This -- I mean, I realize there are going to be hearings about it. Do you think it's President Obama himself, or is this someone, you know, beneath...

    GRAHAM: Well...

    VAN SUSTEREN: ... him in the sort of chain? I mean, everyone keeps talking about President Obama doing it.

    GRAHAM: I think -- the question that Senator McCain asked, Is it done for political reasons? How could you say it's not? The stories...

    VAN SUSTEREN: But who gets blamed?

    GRAHAM: Well, I don't know who's responsible.

    VAN SUSTEREN: (INAUDIBLE) I mean.

    GRAHAM: Well, we're going to have a hearing. Somebody in the White House. Somebody connected to the highest level of the Obama administration has decided to leak three different scenarios that make the president look like a strong national security leader at the detriment of operations going on throughout the world.

    The Saudis and the Brits are less likely to help us in the future because this was supposedly a double agent. What country is going to provide help to America if they read about their help in The New York Times?

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I -- I -- don't get me wrong. I agree the leaks are horrible. And they jeopardize our national security -- this...

    GRAHAM: Yes, ma'am.

    VAN SUSTEREN: The only thing that's a little bit different, I'm wondering, is that the accusation that it's politically motivated, and to suggest it's President Obama -- it may -- you know, it -- those are different considerations...

    GRAHAM: I don't think the president called up the reporter. But look at the stories. If you talk about people inside the Situation Room talking to reporters on background that were in a meeting with the president, a blow-by-blow description of how you decide which targets to hit, which baseball cards to act on...

    VAN SUSTEREN: So are you suggesting he's up to his eyeballs in these leaks? I guess that's what I'm asking.

    GRAHAM: I'm suggesting somebody in the White House is orchestrating an effort to leak classified information and programs to make the president look good. To think otherwise is just absurd. These three stories within 45 days of each other, or less than that, paint a portrait of an administration effectively fighting terrorism, talking about disrupting a bomb plot that would have put us all at risk...

    VAN SUSTEREN: You know...

    GRAHAM: ... and a cyber-attack on Iran that's trying to develop a nuclear weapon. And you throw Israel into the mix. You talk about how you attack an Iranian nuclear program, what kind of technology...

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, so...

    GRAHAM: ... you use...

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, one quick question before I've got to go to break is...

    GRAHAM: Sure.

    VAN SUSTEREN: ... this -- Democrats run the U.S. Senate. You say there'll be hearings. Will -- will Carl Levin and Dianne Feinstein hold -- will they push for the hearings?

    GRAHAM: I think so.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Will there be hearings before the election?

    GRAHAM: Let me tell you, if this happened on Republican president's watching, I would be asking for hearings...

    VAN SUSTEREN: Before election?

    GRAHAM: Absolutely.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Now. Now. All right.

    GRAHAM: Yes, ma'am, I would. This is egregious. It has to be dealt with. And the Congress in a bipartisan way is rightly offended. We need to get to the bottom of it.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Senator, thank you, sir.

    GRAHAM: Thank you.