TRUMP: I thought we were going to be talking about the economy and jobs and other countries...
VAN SUSTEREN: We did.
TRUMP: ... and what they're doing to us.
VAN SUSTEREN: We did.
TRUMP: And you just sort of like this subject and -- well, we did -- we talked about that for about what, 20 seconds, and we talked about the rest for the entire show. But whatever is good for your show is good for me because I happen to think your show is terrific.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right, let me go back to the whole issue of jobs and the economy. You know, is -- you know, is -- do you see any sort of trending in the right direction? Is there anything that, like, gives you sort of a sense, like, OK, this is good?
TRUMP: No, I don't think we're doing well as a country. I don't think we're creating jobs. I think the numbers are false numbers. I think the numbers are very bad because if somebody's looking for a job and they give up, we take them off the unemployment roll. We take them off the numbers so you're not really looking at real numbers when they get it down to 8.2 and 8.3. It's not -- those are not the real numbers. And it's almost like they're just creating lists for the sake of creating lists.
So, you know, I feel very strongly that, unfortunately, the country is not doing well. We're losing jobs to other countries through lots of different things. If you're running a credit card company, it's very possible that India is referring your New York credit card person to -- that you're talking to somebody from India. You know, we outsource our jobs instead of having them -- why, we can't have them in this country? So if you look what's going -- if you look at what's going on with respect to our country, we are certainly not doing very well.
And when you hear 8.2 and 8.3 percent, well, that's not very good. The number is far worse than that. The number could be as high as 18 or 19 percent, Greta, and that's a horrible number.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right, if -- if your candidate, Governor Mitt Romney, is elected in November, sworn in in January, I'm curious to what extent, looking -- stepping back and looking at the economy, and how much it's like an aircraft carrier, that it takes so much to sort of turn and -- you know, and get some progress -- I mean, how soon, if your candidate is sworn in in January, will we see the economy show a significant rebound? Because I assume you think he will do that.
TRUMP: I do think so. I think that he'd do a lot of very, very powerful things with respect to China. We have all the cards. People don't know that. I think that he'd do a lot of very powerful things with respect to other countries, and also OPEC.
And I think he'd open up energy very quickly. Look at the jobs that can be created. We have -- we didn't realize this two, three, four years ago. We have energy right under our feet. We can't get it. I think he'd open up jobs very, very rapidly with respect to energy, get fuel prices down, get oil down, and that will be a tremendous boon for the economy.
So I think a lot of things can happen quickly. I think this is a country with tremendous potential, unbelievable potential, but we're not using it. Regulation, so many different things that are happening are so bad for this country, not to mention high taxes.
So you know, I really believe that it can happen quickly. The potential of this country is enormous, if we'd let it go.
VAN SUSTEREN: Indeed, let it go. And maybe even if we can sort of bury some of these unusual disagreements. By the way, do you like a good fight? I'm curious how you endure all this.
TRUMP: Well, I've always liked a good fight. I think it's a fight that's a very important fight. You know, some people don't think so, but I think it's an important fight because, you know, essentially, you're right down to the basics. The answer is if you're not born here, you can't be president. So it's not like, Oh, gee, let's not discuss it.
But a lot of people -- and I think you know this as well as I do, millions and millions of people happen to agree with me, Greta.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right, I know that a lot do. But I'm just curious -- let me get back to this. ... What would it take to convince you otherwise? I know that you're -- are you convinced he wasn't born here or are you suspicious?
TRUMP: Well, I think that it's more likely that he wasn't born here. But I would also say that if you look at his college records, they may have some good information on his college records that would say place of birth, and it would be very interesting to see what happened.
I think that that was a real killer last week when it was announced that when it was released that in the 1990s, he said he was born in Kenya. I mean, he said it. His grandmother said it. His mother didn't spend time in the hospital. It's hard to have babies when you don't spend time in the hospital.
So you know, there are a lot of things, Greta, that are very suspicious and you know, it's a big issue, a big issue. Took him a long time to release the so-called birth certificate. Didn't do it for McCain. Didn't do it for Hillary Clinton. Did do it for Donald Trump. Did do it. You know, I'm very proud of that, and you know that, and I got a lot of credit for that and probably some scorn, but I got a lot of credit for that.
VAN SUSTEREN: Hypothetically, is there anything that he could produce that would convince you that he was born in Hawaii? Is there some sort of singular document or piece of evidence or any other information you could think that could defeat your suspicion or even your thoughts he was born elsewhere?
TRUMP: Sure. Good, solid proof would be wonderful.
VAN SUSTEREN: Like what, though?
TRUMP: And so far -- so far, they haven't been able to do that. You know, good, solid proof. And let's get back to jobs. Go ahead, Greta.
VAN SUSTEREN: All right.
TRUMP: Good, solid proof.
VAN SUSTEREN: I'll take that cue is that that's the end. Thank you, Donald. And talk to you soon.
TRUMP: Thank you very much.