• With: Newt Gingrich

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, one last quick question. We only have a minute left, the accommodation that the president suggested to try to cure this problem, this rift he's having with the Catholic church on contraception and the health care bill. I assume that you side with the Catholic church on this. IO don't -- I mean, that's my assumption. But is there any way to sort of reconcile this, to work this out between the two?

    GINGRICH: No. Look...

    VAN SUSTEREN: I mean, is...

    GINGRICH: ... there's a very straight question here. Does the government of the United States have the right to overrule a religious organization on how it deals with its religious circumstances? Can the government of the United States dictate, whether it's an Episcopal church, a Baptist church, a Jewish synagogue, a Catholic church, a Greek Orthodox church -- does the government have the right to dictate to churches?

    Those of us who believe in America believe we were founded by people who were fleeing religious persecution to come to America. We think what Barack Obama's doing is the most secular anti-religious bigotry that we've ever seen in a president. And I think it's not bridgeable. He's got to back down totally and concede that no government can come between man and God.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, not to be too flip, every single Catholic hospital, which it apply to the hospitals, not to the churches, has a chapel. I'd just rename all the hospitals a church and that'd be the end of it -- not to be too flip -- then they couldn't touch it. But anyway...


    VAN SUSTEREN: You know, that's just me! Anyway, Speaker Gingrich, thank you, sir.

    GINGRICH: Great to be with you.