• With: Sarah Palin

    But the fact is, if you want -- let's take a foreign policy situation like Israel and our relationship to the prime minister, Netanyahu. You can't be on the sideline, you know, poking things and doing things and driving the media mad to create a change there because the policy of the United States does matter, certainly on an international platform.

    PALIN: OK. Well, let's take an example of our relationship with Israel and maybe my effecting of a positive or negative position that America would take in terms of supporting our number one ally in the world, Israel.

    No, instead of just sitting back, throwing stones, writing on Facebook or Twitter about what I think, you take action. I took action. I went over to Israel. I had dinner with the prime minister and his family. We formed a good relationship there.

    And I was able to express what I believe the majority of Americans still, in terms of our relationship with Israel, in speaking with the prime minister. And I told him that we do support Israel, and if he were to hear or perceive that our government is kind of poking our ally in the eye, well, don't believe that that is the voice of the majority of the American people. We are their friend.

    So that's an example, Greta, of not just sitting back, rattling cages in the media, but actually doing something about an issue that needs to be addressed.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Except let me take it one step further. I mean, yes, you can have an effect that way. I agree with that. But we'll use this as an example, is that if you are the president of the United States, or anybody, as you can probably sit down with President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Netanyahu, maybe together, maybe in separate rooms, and so there is -- there is a bigger platform being president than being sort of someone who is, you know, driving an issue or getting the debate. I'm not saying it's without value, I'm just saying that there's more power being president.

    PALIN: Yes. There's also, though, the belief that I have had since I started in public office 20 years ago, you don't need a title to make a difference, truly. In campaign mode, so often a candidate, certainly this is where I was in the VP campaign, being molded, being shaped, Greta, being caricatured by those around you, which prohibits the freedom that one needs to really make a difference and influence and begin some aggressive debate that is needed.

    So yes, you know, that's a debate right there itself, whether a title is needed to make a difference, or someone can be rogue, can be maverick, can be passionate about issues and get people to think very wisely about the decisions and the candidates that we need in order to make good decisions for our country. Which is the best place for that individual to be?

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right, one quick question. I'm going to change topics. Do you think you could win?

    PALIN: I do. I wouldn't have gone this far in my thinking about whether to run or not had I not had the confidence to believe that Americans are ready for someone out of the box, certainly outside of the permanent political class, who wants to quash crony capitalism and say, No, empowerment of the individual, our families, our small businesses, someone who is a proponent of that, like me, could win.

    VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Now I'll change topics. In terms of the Republican field, totally off --you -- but this question is that, how do -- how does any candidate, whether it's a Democratic candidate, President Obama, or a Republican candidate, reach the independents? Because from all the chatter, you know, they're the ones who are going to make this decision who the next president -- what's the actual reach without sort of the usual, Blah, blah, that we always hear? How do you reach them?

    PALIN: Well, we have to remember that independents make up the majority of American voters. And independents are busy living their lives, raising their families, running their businesses. They don't want to be bogged down with, say, the infighting within the Republican Party that's going on.

    Instead of hearing the bickering within the Republican Party itself, as they're all on stage beating up on each other, just playing right into the liberals' handbook there and their playbook, we have to focus for independents on what the problem is. The problem today is Barack Obama's socialist-leaning failed policies that will bankrupt this country.

    Independents want to know that Republicans get it, that that Republican candidate gets it, very basic, very simple, very common-sense time-tested truths that can be applied toward solutions. Independents -- they're not going to get bogged down with that inside baseball stuff that goes on. They just want to know that we are sensible, that we understand economic principles, and that we know what works to get the economy roaring again.

    VAN SUSTEREN: On GretaWire, I put up a poll, asked why people vote, social issues or economic this time. Overwhelming in favor of economic issues because that's what people are really worried about, and that's I guess a predictable result. But I'm sort of curious. If -- and I think it's going to be miraculous because I understand the late date -- but if, for instance, President Obama were to turn everything around, unemployment goes down, housing starts up, great stability in the Dow, everything changed and we're in a total upward trend on all the economic indicators, would you support him?

    PALIN: No. No. He has a track record of failure. He has a track record of actually believing that European-type socialist policies would work in the United States of America, which would create this atrophy of our foundation of free markets and free men.

    No. He has proven to me and to so many other Americans that -- no, no matter what happens in the next 14 months, Barack Obama is not the one. He's not the savior of our country or our economy. Absolutely not. I would not support him.

    VAN SUSTEREN: Governor, thank you. Nice to talk to you.

    PALIN: Thanks so much, Greta. Talk to you soon.