• With: Judy Miller, Cal Thomas, Jim Pinkerton, Kirsten Powers

    MILLER: And I also think that Fox turned it into a great moment of TV. As you said, it was terrific television, when you had Megyn Kelly go back to the decision desk.

    PINKERTON: That was great...

    MILLER: Do you stand by this call? No. And in fact, they did. And that is what news organizations do when they have character and backbone.

    SCOTT: This is video in case you want to watch it. This is video of Megyn leaving the set and strolling 50 or so yards to our decision desk where, you know, she found out that they did disagree with Karl at that point in the evening. And they were backing up the call for Ohio.

    POWERS: But then they had brought on Michael Barone, and had Karl together. I mean I thought it was very compelling television. Everybody makes their case.

    SCOTT: The media tried to insinuate, many liberal media tried to insinuate that somehow Karl was manipulating our decision desk when in fact – it just proved...

    POWERS: Right.


    SCOTT: That he's an independent voice.

    PINKERTON: That's correct. Look, I mean -- look, I agree with it. It's part of this Fox derangement syndrome. And it's further that unique -- hatred that a lot of people in this country on the left have for Karl Rove personally, and they sort of -- the chance they thought to kind of poetically link up Florida in 2000 to Ohio in 2012, and they didn't even care what the reality was -- they want to sort of make it into, as you said, a meltdown or a nervous breakdown or whatever it was...


    PINKERTON: However. Look, anybody watching the TV that night thought he was -- for a while, that actually Romney was ahead in Ohio a little bit. And they called it for Obama. Anybody, citizen would have right to scratch his head and say what's that all about? And so you then go and show Chris Stirewalt, all the rest of the team, saying here is what we think, here is what we think. And the fact that they were proven right shows that those people in that decision room knew what they were doing. I think it was a good behind the scenes look.

    THOMAS: We had a phrase when I was working for NBC many moons ago that we want to be first, but more importantly we want to be right. And I think that Karl Rove was exercising proper caution. Look at some of the past elections when the decision desks of various networks have been wrong.

    SCOTT: Sure. Sure.

    THOMAS: (inaudible) in 2000, what happens in the media, dump all over, why are you projecting these things? Why are you doing this? This is -- look at the voting -- the voting still going on in California or Alaska.

    SCOTT: And there was speculation in 2000 that it may have affected the outcome of the election because people in the western time zones...

    PINKERTON: Right.

    SCOTT: Had already heard...

    PINKERTON: In 1980, when the Carter people felt that people had not voted in the Western time zones, and it didn't affect the election, but affected Senate races and House races out there.

    THOMAS: Sure.

    PINKERTON: This is a standard thing. You can't win sometimes.

    THOMAS: That's right.

    SCOTT: And nobody seemed to be questioning the fact that George Stephanopolous, you know, former spokesman for Bill Clinton, is anchoring the coverage at ABC. Nobody seemed to be bothered by that.

    THOMAS: I wonder why.

    POWERS: Well, I don't really think it's quite the same thing. I mean -- I think George Stephanopolous has done a good job of transitioning into a reporter role. You know, I mean Karl is, quite clearly, I mean he has a side. But that's the thing. He has a side. He's allowed to have a side. It's out in the open.

    SCOTT: All right, next on "News Watch," no longer an election issue. Will the Benghazi attacks get any real media attention? Coming up.


    OBAMA: It's too early to know exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans.

    UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: CBS releases a new clip adding more to the controversy over the president's position on the deadly attacks in Benghazi. Was CBS and other media helping the White House in a cover-up over the terror attacks? Details next on "News Watch."



    STEVE KROFT, CBS ANCHOR: Mr. President, this morning, you went out of your way to avoid the use of word terrorism in connection with the Libya attack.

    OBAMA: Right.

    KROFT: Do you believe that this was a terrorist attack?

    OBAMA: Well, it's too early to know exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously, it was an attack on Americans. And we are going to be working with the Libyan government to make sure that we bring these folks to justice one way or the other.

    KROFT: This has been described as a mob action. That there are reports that they were very heavily armed, with grenades.

    OBAMA: As I said...

    KROFT: It doesn't sound like a normal demonstration?

    OBAMA: As I said, we are still investigating exactly what happened. I don't want to jump the gun on this.