President Obama's Paris no-show

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," January 12, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Greg Gutfeld along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Bob Beckel, Eric Bolling and Katie Pavlich. They call us The Five.


NICHOLAS HAMMOND, "THE BRADY BUNCH" ACTOR: You see I'm afraid I have to break our date for Saturday night.


HAMMOND: Yeah. Well, you see, something suddenly came up.

MCCORMICK: Something suddenly came up?

(Bell Ringing)

HAMMOND: Yeah. Well, I don't want you to be late for class, OK? I'll see you.

MCCORMICK: Something suddenly came up.


GUTFELD: Yes, Marcia, something suddenly came up. So why wasn't our president at the Paris rally? Was there a game on? Did he not have directions? Seriously, Mr. President, did you miss it because you were up late watching movies?


BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I have to say, "Big" was on last night.


OBAMA: I did watch "Big" last night. It's -- that's a great movie.


OBAMA: Love that movie.



GUTFELD: Or maybe you were busy playing laser tag at Joe Biden's house.


OBAMA: The lasers were really cool. It's impressive. I --


OBAMA: I -- you know, I've been tinkering around the White House setting up a similar --


OBAMA: System.


GUTFELD: Now, it's easy for the right to nail the president on this, but it's not the right that's just nailing him. It is everyone. And it's not our fault he makes it so damn easy. It serves to remind us why the march happened it all, because fanatics murdered citizens. Especially as this outrage is now going to get lost, among fake concerned. For instead of learning lessons about evil the media returns to platitudes on tolerance like a forgetful dog eating its own vomit, Kimberly. Meanwhile, the Nigeria thieves placed bombs on young girls killing 20. This after Boko Haram murdered 2,000. That got lost in the Paris shuffle, and no arm linking chant of famous names and faces is gonna stop that. So, forgive me if a march for unity leaves me cold, it should be a march for war. Forget unity in the name of tolerance. We need unity of will, needed to destroy evil. We are now dealing with a death cult aided by a fifth column that deems the war on terror, Islamophobic. Knowing there linking terror to religion by doing so, it undermines the west from within and protects themes who use God for murder, couple that with those who deem the war on terror and attack on privacy, and you see why we are screwed. And so, last month we saw two Brooklyn cops murdered and the concern among elites, a backlash against protest. Last week, thousands were killed by terrorists, and the concern -- a backlash against Muslims. The left is like the drunk at the pub who keeps putting a quarter in the jukebox to play the same old song, and that song is backlash. Sooner or later that awful tune drives everyone out to the streets -- well, not everyone. K.G.?


GUTFELD: All right. It seems obvious that the president should have shown up. But what if he knew something? What if he knew something was gonna happen and he said, "You know what? I'm gonna kick back and watch, you know, a marathon of Entourage.

GUILFOYLE: Yeah, maybe, because that is compelling television. But this is really no surprise, because remember this is the same president who said, "I will stand with Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly directions." So, instead of marching and showing up for 4.3 million French citizens were standing in solidarity or with 40 of the world's most powerful important world leaders standing against terror, he chose to not be present.

GUTFELD: Eric, 4 million people, 40 world leaders, it's not really a big deal. It's like saying Boston is a college town.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: So, I'm watching this happen Sunday morning. And I'm -- like getting outraged, I'm yelling at the TV. I actually wrote a piece and send it on And after I wrote it, I realize I may be wrong in that piece. Because I was -- I was so ticked off that our president didn't show up when leaders from around the world were there in fact, Bibi Netanyahu was two people away from Mahmoud Abbas, from Palestine. If that wasn't symbolic, nothing was. But then, I realized that his nonchalant attitude towards terror is consistent, not showing up was consistent with that nonchalant attitude towards terror. It's not that big of a deal to -- to the administration. We have to take it more -- lead from behind. We don't want to go aggressively after these people, God forbid, we become -- Islamophobic or we were like were, anti-Muslim in -- what we are doing. There, there -- what they're doing is consistent, especially with the announcement on the same afternoon that this was going on, that he realized we weren't there and there was a gaping hole for the United States to be there. Gaping he says, you know what we gonna do, we're gonna call the anti-terror summit, it's gonna happen February -- whenever, 18th. I hope everyone shows up. Wow, if that's not leading from behind. That is -- that's backing and filling from behind.

GUTFELD: Katie, you think that perhaps he was avoiding the Danish prime minister?


GUTFELD: Because after that selfie incident, maybe he just wasn't --

PAVLICH: That was the German prime minister.

GUTFELD: I thought it was Danish?

PAVLICH: Was it? Maybe it was both.

GUTFELD: No. It was Danish.


GUTFELD: It was Danish. It was held turning --

PAVLICH: Saturday Night Live did the --


PAVLICH: The whole selfie thing --

GUTFELD: But do you -- maybe he was doing them a favor. Maybe, we were saying, you know what? He didn't want to make it about him, so he's not gonna show up.

PAVLICH: No. You know, if anybody wants to make anything about anyone, Barack Obama is the guy. I mean, if it was gonna be about him, I'm sure he would have been there. And you know -- this little time when it was really important.


PAVLICH: For the United States to show up. Do you have to show up at everything? No, you don't. But, based on what it decides in the sense of, this is a habit of the administration and the history and what the things that they say, you go back to -- the comment that President Obama made last week in response to what happened, and it was very calm and there was not a lot of emotion about it. And then you get to Sunday and realize that they had a couple days to plan, to try and get someone there -- Joe Biden, for example. They sent Joe Biden to everything.


PAVLICH: Right? And they couldn't even send.

GUTFELD: That's some RVs -- (ph)

PAVLICH: Right. They couldn't even send Joe Biden to that. And I think it goes back to the administration and President Obama's coldest attitude towards Islamic terrorism as a whole, and treating it like a crime and not as radical terrorism, and to the point of the summit that they are holding -- great, another summit. Let's talk about things -- isn't that what the U.N. is for? I mean, why we are holding another summit -- and by the way, they're not going to address Islamic terror at the summit. They're just gonna talk about terrorism in general according to --


PAVLICH: The attorney general.

GUTFELD: I just want to get Bob in, because were six minutes in and I think Bob -- you are outnumbered here.


GUTFELD: You're one lucky guy.

GUILFOYLE: That's new.

GUTFELD: Do you think?


GUTFELD: Do you think Obama knew -- President Obama knew that maybe -- you know, you get everybody in the free world together that might be a mistake? Or what?

BECKEL: Well, I'm gonna to -- I usually shock you in so many things I say. But let me tell you this, I think that march was a foolish waste of time.

GUTFELD: Really?

BECKEL: And I tell you why. Why they talk about leadership. Barack Obama got his air force and they're bombing ISIS, none of those 40 countries do. These are ones who is showing radical Islamist, and he does use the word, you're right. Should he have gone maybe after all this terror attack? But you know the idea that these guys can perform a terror attack like that, and with gather all these world leaders to the place together in a symbolic gesture, that would get you nothing -- except more terror. Barack Obama -- before the rest of these guys have the guts, and they still that guts to join a coalition to take on ISIS -- he did. That's leadership.

GUTFELD: I think France has been pretty aggressive though, going after radicalism, haven't they?

BECKEL: Well --

GUTFELD: I mean.

BECKEL: (inaudible)

GUTFELD: That's one of the few things the -- the president there is doing right. Let's go to -- even Josh Earnest, kind of admits that maybe they made a mistake. Josh?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOSH EARNEST, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I think it is fair to say that we should have sent someone with a higher profile -- to be there. That had the circumstances be a little -- been a little different. I think the president himself would have liked to have had the opportunity to be there.

(END VIDEO CLIP) GUTFELD: He would have liked the opportunity, K.G.

GUILFOYLE: Right. So who was the person with higher profile than the invisible man, because there was nobody there? Marching with arms sling (ph), marching in solidarity against Islamic extremism. What a missed opportunity from the country that used to be the leader, the most courageous, that one would stand out and that others would feel embolden, impassioned by, and then joined in courage. Instead, we were the ones -- not first, second -- 41st place? Because, we were the no show.

BECKEL: Who was -- who was the country in United States at least when we have them? (ph)

GUILFOYLE: Bob, I don't think you can find any --


GUILFOYLE: There's no what that he's gonna say that he should go back. (ph)

BOLLING: World community coming together to say enough -- saying enough is enough, we will fight Islamic -- Islamic extremism, terrorism where it happens.

BECKEL: Why they don't do it there?

BOLLING: And we were -- we were no show.

BECKEL: Why they don't do it?

BOLLING: I think they will. And that -- and you were right.

BECKEL: I think they will.

BOLLING: And you are right in the aftermath.

BECKEL: They -- how they are sure?

BOLLING: The aftermath of that protest -- or the -- that ceremony those people, those people needed to go back to their respective countries to say, we are gonna fight. We're just not gonna lock arms (ph) right.

BECKEL: Did he.


PAVLICH: It would have been a little awkward.

BOLLING: That's put in the -- Ed Henry ask the right question today. Josh Earnest frankly answered that question the best he could.


BOLLING: And then what? Great, that was a great answer Josh. However, with the question -- asked was the right question. What was the president doing that he couldn't be there? What was on his schedule that was so important? There was nothing on his schedule. No official business on the president or vice president's schedule whatsoever. So, and Josh Earnest said this, he said, "I don't know. I didn't ask him." Really?

PAVLICH: Yeah. Well, we never know where he is.

BOLLING: Really? Is that the best you guys can come up with?

PAVLICH: We never know where he is. We still don't know where he was the night of Benghazi. We have no idea what he was doing when that whole thing went down. I mean, he was doing things that were not up to the level obviously. What he should have been doing and paying attention to the 3 a.m. phone call or the 2 p.m. march in Paris. Then, you know what? In the end, it may have been a little bit awkward for Barack Obama to be there because he likes to release people. Like the Taliban five back into the Middle East where they can just come back and train the very people who were come -- going to Syria and going back to France to carry out these attacks.


PAVLICH: And maybe he should have been better (ph) considering the, let's go back into -- that's a long run.

BECKEL: They have -- they haven't any pressure (ph) to release because they had the courage to get in this fight. Let us take the lead on it, and those -- Germany, England has shown some strength. Spain, Italy, the rest of them are --


BECKEL: Are absolute wusses when it comes to this.

GUILFOYLE: But Bob, how can we claim some moral authority when -- when they all did show up, we were absent? (inaudible) absent.

BECKEL: Because our airplanes were air bombing ISIS.

GUILFOYLE: Bob, I get it.

GUTFELD: Bob is making a good point.

GUILFOYLE: He is trying to help.

GUTFELD: I got to say he is making a good point. It's easy to show up at a march. It's harder to commit bodies and risk lives -- I mean, it's a fair point.

GUILFOYLE: Listen, you're absolutely right.

GUTFELD: And fair game bringing up Benghazi.

GUILFOYLE: What a missed opportunity.

PAVLICH: That's true.

GUILFOYLE: What a missed opportunity.

PAVLICH: It's been around (ph)

GUILFOYLE: The president to be right there.

BECKEL: I agree with this.

GUILFOYLE: To the left.


GUILFOYLE: Of the French president, right?


GUILFOYLE: So show up and say, we're here and now next time -- look, we showed up for you guys, show up for us.

PAVLICH: Obvious matter. Really matters.

BOLLING: Forget what it says to the European community. Forgets what he says to anywhere else in the world. But, what does it say when the president doesn't show up -- or doesn't even send, Biden or secretary of the state. What is the secretary.

GUILFOYLE: Well, and Holder was there.

GUUTFELD: What about Holder been there?

GUILFOYLE: Holder was there.

GUTFELD: He was there?


BECKEL: What it said the secretary is we pull up terrorist operations like this and we get 40 leaders of the world to come? That's what it says.

GUTFELD: I want to roll some tape here. Some unlikely -- a lot of people, for example, you take something like media matters, looks and stuffs like this and says, this is what Fox says. Well, this is criticism from people not like Fox, including Jake Tapper. This is montage or people -- myth, a myth montage.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MARCO RUBIO, FLORIDA SENATOR: Eric Holder was in Paris and maybe John Kerry should have gone or somebody else, a plethora of people they could have sent.

ANDREA MITCHELL, COMMENTATOR FOR NBC'S NEWS: Of course, there are security concerns. They talk to officials anytime the president to the vice president travels. And their presence could have inconvenienced those who did attend. The one former official said it sure seems, ham handed.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm a little disappointed personally. This is we speaking personally not as a representative of CNN, but as an American that there isn't more of a display of unity here.

(END VIDEO CLIP) GUTFELD: There you go -- a montage of myth people, just myth.

GUILFOYLE: No. It appears that we're reasonable.


PAVLICH: Yeah. GUTFELD: Exactly. You can't blame us.

BECKEL: You know, the thing I would say is it a missed opportunity -- certainly, it was a missed opportunity. Is there one piece of terrorism, one act of terrorism, it can be avoided because these wusses got together and marched? No.

PAVLICH: That's how -- it's not about that. It's kind of about the --

BOLLING: Maybe. And it might be.

GUILFOYLE: Why are you calling them wusses?

BECKEL: What is something wrong about that?

PAVLICH: It is about -- it's about.

BECKEL: Let them commit their soldiers and their money, and their treasure to fight.

PAVLICH: Fine. That is there, but, but being there on Sunday and showing the world that America so has a place at the forefront of this is important.


PAVLICH: Merely, we're not there and we don't have a place.

BECKEL: Excuse me. You have more, more authority as you within the fight.

GUILFOYLE: And maybe because of the first set. (ph)

BOLLING: So Bob, do you or do you not send -- either your president, your vice president -- someone who represents the country in -- to things that matter? The Mandela funeral, Michael Brown funeral -- I believe there were some people represented from the Obama administration, if I'm not mistaken. In fact, there was probably more than one person represented there. This wouldn't be a good play. Was he so darn busy, he could have just got on Air Force One, flown five hour -- spent an hour there and got him back down?

BECKEL: It would be -- did they show up in Boston? Did they show up in Fort hood? Did they showed up anywhere and put their blood money down -- no. He should have gone --


BECKEL: It is that --

BOLLING: That's a false argument.

BECKEL: This is like --

BOLLING: That's a false argument.

BECKEL: This is like the rally of people.

BOLLING: What was more important at a --

BECKEL: That was important.

BOLLING: On a Sunday afternoon. Football or was it showing the world that we need --

PAVLICH: That doesn't matter anymore, exactly.

GUILFOYLE: Well, especially we have that one to contribute and give money and do what they can and then we don't show up we are a no show. I don't understand that.

BOLLING: That's a great point. That's a good one.

GUILFOYLE: Yeah. And then.


GUILFOYLE: When we asked them again they are like, yeah, great, we're with you --

BECKEL: What they didn't do it, that's the point.

GUILFOYLE: U.S. Even you didn't show up for us.


GUILFOYLE: I just don't think he can diminish it.

GUTFELD: I got to say.

GUILFOYLE: The right reason was -- the right answer and decision, was to show up, and he didn't do it. And that is not the U.S.

BOLLING: Don't do it.

GUTFELD: But Bob is making a great point. It's like it's easy to march but go out and kill us some terrorists.


PAVLICH: It's two.

GUILFOYLE: Yeah. Two separate things.

BOLLING: So, here's -- here's what I think that would have been the better thing to do. President Obama show up, right? March with them in solidarity and then say you know what? That February 18 to 19 summit -- whatever date that is. We want to invite all you there to discuss exactly how we kill these terrorists. This is how we gonna kill them together.

GUILFOYLE: I know, but here's the best part. They are like, would have been distraction, it would have been a security issue, President Obama showed up -- whoa, Bibi Netanyahu?


GUILFOYLE: It might have a few terrorist issues and security issues -- come on, that is when you man up and you lead by example, not hiding back in the safe house when people are standing in unison. That's what you say, let's do this.

BECKEL: This I'm afraid to say.

GUTFELD: We got to go.

BECKEL: Hiding these guys are hiding for --


BECKEL: Five years, I --

GUILFOYLE: I don't diminish what they do. It is a step forward in the right direction.

GUTFELD: We must move on. How to win the war on Islamic terror? Next, on The Five.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) GUILFOYLE: ISIS is not only making progress on the battlefield. Today, the terror network launched a cyber attack on the U.S. Central Command's Twitter and YouTube accounts. More come on that in a moment. But first, how do we confront Muslim extremists who want to kill us? For starters, who would help of this administration actually called this, Islamic terrorism.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would you speak about the matter against Islamic extremism?

EARNEST: Well, all forms of -- violent extremism would -- a certainly be discussed in the context of the summit.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why wouldn't you use the phrase right there. That we are gonna take on Islamic extremism? You said all forms of violent extremism, what are they?

EARNEST: Actually, the summit will discuss in all forms of violent -- violent extremism would be discussed.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Paris, Australia, Canada, isn't it a threat through them that is Islamic extremism?

EARNEST: Well, certainly those -- examples that you cite are examples of individuals who cited Islam, as it carry out -- carried out acts of -- violence. There's -- there's no -- there is no arguing that.

(END VIDEO CLIP) GUILFOYLE: And Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters had some advice on how to win the war against these Jihadists.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) LT. COL. RALPH PETERS, FOX NEWS STRATEGIC ANALYST: One, you accept that you are in a war. Two, you name the enemy -- Islamist terrorist. Three, you get the lawyers off the battlefield, on the targeting cell. You accept there will be collateral damage and you do not apologize for it. You do not nation build. You don't hold -- try to hold ground. You go wherever in the world the terrorists are and you kill them. You do your best to exterminate them and then you leave and you leave behind, smoking ruins and crying widows.

(END VIDEO CLIP) GUILFOYLE: Wow, powerful statement. It certainly got everybody's attention, and you also notice that Josh Earnest has been trained to not use the phrase Islamic extremist. Somebody has got a shock collar and they were gonna Taser him if he said it. I'm convinced of it.

GUTFELD: Those are (inaudible)

GUILFOYLE: Where we going from here -- yeah.

BOLLING: I'm trying to figure out, he's -- Ed Henry says so OK, so why we not calling you Islamic terrorist? -- Islamic extremism -- Islamic terrorism. And Josh -- well though, and he cite examples, and Josh Earnest says, yeah, those are examples of Islamic terrorism but, we have others and he doesn't go ahead and tell us, where did the others, because I'm trying to figure out what the others he's talking about. Is he talking about Timothy McVeigh, 20 years ago? And --

PAVLICH: But those are in Paris.

BOLLING: Is that with the one that he's talking about? Because, I'm not sure what -- I think, you put the vast majority of the terrorism that is taking place, especially in if back in the west, you can link it right back to -- Islamic fundamentals. And that's -- and that's where we should be focusing our -- our efforts.

PAVLICH: You have to remember that this is a president who refuses to say that the Islamic state, ISIS or ISIL, as they say is not Islamic. I mean, they're never going to admit this, and you back to the president's own words when he said the future does not belong to those who have planted the profit, as you said earlier on the show, the winds turn against the Muslims, I will send with them. I mean, this is a fundamental idea that the president of the United States has -- held for a very long time, it's not something new. But the general, seems of things, they were gonna have the summit that we're talking about. What's the point of this? I mean, don't we have a U.N. to talk about these things, prevent these things from happening. We've been dealing with, with Islamic extremism for 30 plus years, if not longer. I mean, what is there to talk about? Now I tell you, Ralph Peters -- Colonel Ralph Peters is so right. Because, we know what to do, we just won't do it. If you don't identify the enemy, well then you can't win the war. And we are at war and we're not -- we're not acting like it. You know, there for with us.

BECKEL: Every single --

PAVLICH: You know, there for with us.

BECKEL: Every single day, we're going out and killing Islamic terrorists. Every single day.

GUILFOYLE: Not enough of them.

BECKEL: Well, I mean, you can argue that. I mean, that's the --

GUILFOYLE: That's a fact.

BECKEL: That's the point. But the point is.

GUILFOYLE: Otherwise ISIS wouldn't exist.

BECKEL: You can't accuse Barack Obama and his military of not doing this. Nobody was.

PAVLICH: I was talking about his rhetoric. I was.

BECKEL: well, rhetoric. Let's get this fact to it. I don't understand the answer to this either. I don't understand what's the problem is with Islamic terrorist. I can't explain it. I wish I could. It doesn't suggest that he is not aggressively in a more than any other leader in the free world going after and killing Islamic terrorists.

PAVLICH: Why is Islamic terror on the march?

BECKEL: Right now.


PAVLICH: Take everywhere around the world right now.

BECEKL: Take a look at the map where ISIS was three months ago and look where it is now.

PAVLICH: Well now, the people in Boko Haram are being slaughtered by thousands a week. There's --


BECKEL: I could --

PAVLICH: There's a fact that Paris still see the NYPD issue to --

BECEKL: And -- we're doing our best.


BECKEL: Most of these people are doing nothing.

GUILFOYLE: All right, Greg.

GUTFELD: There is a bigger army out there that -- potentially bigger than terrorists, I think there is more of them. It's the army of tolerance? It consists of a simpering band of credence who fling this accusation of Islamophobia at everybody? So they say if -- President Obama and his administration do not like to link Islam to terror, I'm with them. So, if you -- if you say it's not Islamic terror then when we kill terrorists or I talk about terrorism or we talk about terrorists it's not about Islam. You can't accuse me of Islamophobia anymore if it is not about Islam. Then, theoretically, even Muslims can join in and murdering -- murdering these fake Muslims, because they are fake murderous Muslims. But if they don't, and if they can't condemn these terrorists, then they by that admission are linking their religion. If they do not condemn the terrorists they are linking their own religion to terror.


GUTFELD: That's what's happening. And -- the moment that they say, yeah, you're right. Right now they have Ben Affleck disorder. Which is basically -- whenever an attack occurs, they condemn those who condemn.

BECKEL: Well, you know, I just throw a piece because I said today, today and it will be on next week to say it. I'm an Islamophobe, that's right. You probably have all you want.




BECKEL: How can you possibly not call these Islamic terrorists and you are making us the enemy.


BECKEL: I mean we are the enemy because we are Islamophobes.

PAVLICH: So Bob, the one thing is, I mean, ISIS -- you know can add it to their resume. Attacking Twitter saying -- and talk about that.

BOLLING: So, here's what happened today, we found a video that -- one of the terrorist from Paris, had may it saying, we want to attack America -- on their shore. We've also now, in this afternoon CenCom -- Central Command, their Twitter account was hacked and the YouTube account was hacked. And they've gone one step further and they said, were -- American soldiers beware, we know who you are and we know what your addresses are. So -- it goes beyond just hacking. It's literally threats against American soldiers' families.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, it's terrible.

BOLLING: This is credible. These are threats that we have to take seriously. But if you -- again, one more time Josh Earnest today, he kind of down play to like, "Oh, you know, it's just our Twitter account." Come on guys, this is for real, take these guys seriously because they -- they're taking us seriously.

GUTFELD: The issue here to is, when you listen to what's going on in France. It's not like these -- these people fell through the cracks. They knew these guys were there. Everyone knew what they were into. The problem was they didn't have place to put them. So here we are talking about closing Gitmo when in fact, we shouldn't closing Gitmo, we should be franchising it. We should be franchising it, calling it McGitmo's and you go there and don't come out because the only way that you could stop this ever spreading malignancy.


GUTFELD: Is you take the people that you can't cure and you put them in there forever.

GUILFOYLE: All right, yes.

BECKEL: Yeah, but what if they didn't follow?

GUILFOYLE: You were an addition on Gitmo -- family.

GUTFELD: Because they didn't have a place to put them.

BECEKL: Well, I have a few slots about that.

GUILFOYLE: All right. Ahead on The Five is the Obama administration planning on charging one of America's greatest generals, Eric Holder's answer on David Petraeus, next.


PAVLICH: Well, Islamic terrorism proliferate around the world, the Obama administration is busy determining whether or not to charge a great American hero. Prosecutors at the justice department and the FBI have reportedly recommended felony charges against General David Petraeus. There are allegations he illegally shared classified information with his mistress who was also his biographer while heading the CIA.

Attorney General Eric Holder isn't denying the report.


ERIC HOLDER, ATTORNEY GENERAL: At the appropriate time, the proper people within the Justice Department will make determinations to what, if any, action should occur.

BOB SCHIEFFER, CBS NEWS: Well, would that proper person be you, or will it be someone else?

HOLDER: Well, it's hard to say. I mean, in terms of timing, I will be in office until a successor is confirmed. But I would expect that, to the extent that there is a matter of this magnitude, that would be decided at the highest levels of the Justice Department.


PAVLICH: And senators on both sides of the aisle are defending General David Petraeus. Now Kimberly...


SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: One of the big honors of my life is to meet and know some great military leaders. This man is unique. He is one of the great leaders. He deserves better treatment than have it leaked to "The New York Times" about a recommendation, which is a violation of his rights and any citizen's rights.

SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: This man has suffered enough, in my view. He's the four-star general of our generation. People aren't perfect. He made a mistake. He lost his job as CIA director because of it. I mean, how much do you want to punish somebody?


PAVLICH: Now, Kimberly, I want to go to you first. Because General Petraeus has been very clear with the Justice Department that he is not interested in a plea deal or a drawn-out, embarrassing trial. He has also said to investigators who have asked him some questions that he, in no way, gave his biographer any classified information. So if they come out now and charge him, what does that mean when it comes to statements like he's made?

GUILFOYLE: It means that they're trying to silence him with the threat of this indictment. And it was released, so everyone was able to get wind of it, because what the inner circles were reporting was this administration wanted to indict Petraeus before the president's term was up. That's what this is. This is keep them quiet. He knows too much. He knows where the bodies are buried.

I think this is shameful. There's also plenty of information to say that his biographer, in fact, had legitimate access to documents without even having, you know, Petraeus give something up.

So I think we're going terribly wrong in this country with the direction. Closing Gitmo, releasing terrorists, making bad prisoner swaps, and now we're going to prosecute someone who has served this country admirably?

PAVLICH: Yes, Greg, what sets David Petraeus apart from a lot of people who get themselves in the situation with an affair like this in Washington, D.C., especially, is that as soon as people find out about it, he resigned...


PAVLICH: ... and said, "I made a mistake. I apologize. I'm moving on. I'm not going to try to make any excuses." And now it seems like he's being punished for doing the right thing in terms of taking responsibility.

GUTFELD: So let me get this straight: if you -- if you leak something to a lover, it's a crime. But if you leak it to "The New York Times," you're a heroic whistleblower. That's interesting.

What's interesting about compromising security is what compromises security. And it is always sex. It's more dangerous than drugs, money, gambling debts. It's why Russians have beautiful female spies. Because this is a good buy. He's a great guy. But even the best guys do dumb stuff because -- well, anyway. Whatever he did could not be more compromising than Bill Clinton and what he did. So I don't know.

PAVLICH: Bob, do you have any comments?

BECKEL: I do. Unlike most of the things that we discuss on this show, I actually had read his book. And there's nothing in there that I can see that in any way compromised anything. And I think this is the easiest call that Holder ever had to make. It should be done tomorrow, or it should be done tonight. Drop it. Let it go. There's nothing that...

GUILFOYLE: Drop it like it's hot.

BECKEL: Yes. Drop it like it's hot.

BOLLING: Can we get this straight? So David Petraeus, war hero, general who wrote the manual on how to win wars, may be prosecuted by the same DOJ that has decided that Al Sharpton, who owes four and a half million dollars to the government, couldn't be prosecuted but won't be prosecuted. They look the other way on Al Sharpton. They want to prosecute a war general.

GUILFOYLE: There you go.

BOLLING: Wow. If that doesn't highlight everything -- the list of priorities of the Obama administration, nothing will.

PAVLICH: Well, and this administration is notorious for leaking information that could be classified to make themselves look better.

BECKEL: Well, in fairness, we don't know whether we want to prosecute or not.

PAVLICH: We'll see. They're definitely talking about it.

But don't move. Stay right there. "The Fastest Seven" is coming up next, featuring some awkward moments at the Golden Globes last night and more. Stay tuned.


BOLLING: Welcome back. Time for...



GRAPHIC: Fastest 7


BOLLING: "The Fastest Seven" minutes on television. Three splashy stories, seven speedy minutes, one sprightly host.

First up, the Golden Globes were a hit last night. Celebs patting themselves on the back, as usual, but there were some really funny moments, too. Two of my favorites: first, George Clooney was being honored for a lifetime achievement award. Check out Tina Fey, hitting a home run, pointing out the very obvious.


TINA FEY, COMEDIAN: George Clooney married Amal Alamuddin this year. Amal is a human rights lawyer who worked on the Enron case, was an adviser to Kofi Annan regarding Syria, and was selected for a three-person U.N. commission investigating rules of war violations in the Gaza Strip.

So tonight her husband is getting a lifetime achievement award.


BOLLING: And then there was the moment when Tina Fey and Amy Poehler went there regarding Cosby.


AMY POEHLER, COMEDIAN: In "Into the Woods," Cinderella runs from her prince; Rapunzel is thrown from a tower for her prince, and Sleeping Beauty just thought she was getting coffee with Bill Cosby.

FEY: Actually, um...


BOLLING: So two awesome moments. Greg, too soon for the Cosby rape joke? Some people said this about...

GUTFELD: No. I know (UNINTELLIGIBLE). No, too predictable. Too predictable. It's simply bringing it up earned them respect for their edginess. Gallagher takes more risks.

Look, this is an awards ceremony for artists. And not a single sharp jab at those who actually killed artists. Not a single absurd, you know, mockery towards radical Islam. You have a huge canvas to work with. And what do you do? You go after Cosby, which he deserves. But it's easy, predictable.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh. Are you saying you're funnier and smarter?

GUTFELD: No, I'm just saying, that's cowardice.

BOLLING: So here's an interesting question. Actually, George Clooney wore the "je suis Charlie." Should they have shown a picture of the cover?

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my goodness. I just thought of something. Obama should have sent Clooney. Yes. Clooney would have showed up. That would have saved America. Right?



BOLLING: Amal, excellent.

GUILFOYLE: Exactly. There you go.


GUTFELD: She's too busy dealing with excesses (ph) in Gaza.

PAVLICH: Right, yes.

BECKEL: I don't -- I think the Cosby thing was just way over the top.

BOLLING: Too much?

BECKEL: Too much.

GUILFOYLE: Yes. I think that was too much. You don't think so?

PAVLICH: Didn't Bill Cosby just last week make a joke onstage about himself?

GUTFELD: He did.

PAVLICH: About himself...

GUTFELD: He said don't drink.

PAVLICH: He said, "Don't drink around me," which is also kind of a racy type joke.

GUTFELD: Greg, I would have loved to see someone mention Islamic terrorism.

PAVLICH: So I mean, if he's going to bring it up...

BECKEL: Well, maybe.

PAVLICH: ... why can't they bring it up?

BOLLING: Let's move on to this one. Next on the "Fastest Seven," Hollywood meets politics. Jay Leno appearing on Bill Maher's show, talking Hillary and Elizabeth Warren.


JAY LENO, COMEDIAN: Let me ask you about Hillary. Let me ask you about this. And I like her. I don't see the fire. Her and Elizabeth Warren are almost the same age. And I see Elizabeth Warren come out. Boom. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. She seems to be sort of -- she was very slow and very -- I don't see that fire, you know, the fire that I used to see that I see in Elizabeth Warren.


BOLLING: After that age became the topic. Did you know Hillary and Elizabeth are only 18 months apart? Hillary is 18 months older. Age an issue, Bob?

BECKEL: Well, they'll try to make an issue. If I were Rusty (ph), I would be a little careful to take the Clintons on on anything, particularly on age.

But I agree. I think Hillary Clinton has been through this so long, she's been running a marathon now for years. She is tired. And that's why I said from the beginning I think there's a possibility she may not run.

BOLLING: So would you say Rushdie, Salmon Rushdie there, saying that he thought maybe they too old. That's what that's referring to.

GUILFOYLE: But you know what? That becomes an issue. When McCain was running, people were questioning whether he had health issues, if he was too old. And you heard that back when Reagan was running. I mean, that's always a question. You have to make sure that there's somebody that is in physical good health and condition to be able to serve this country. It is no easy job on any day.

Nevertheless, poor Hillary Clinton was in much better condition before she became the president's, like, fall lady for all the problems like Benghazi.

BOLLING: The average age of the Democrats running -- likely running in 2016 is ten years older than the average age of Republicans likely running in 2016.

PAVLICH: I think that Republicans in 2016 will have a much deeper bench than Democrats do in general. And I don't think it's just an age factor with the old factor between Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren has new ideas that Hillary Clinton doesn't. And that's how people feel about it. So it's not just age. It's she has lots of old ideas that people are over, and they want someone new.

GUTFELD: I think -- I think both have very, very old ideas that have failed.

Look, Hillary is tired. You'd be tired, too...


GUTFELD: ... if you were married to a guy who considers pants optional in evening wear. This is a guy whose only barrier to sex is a blood line.

PAVLICH: Oh, my gosh.

GUTFELD: And thanks to bill, the name "Clinton" is now immersed in a scandal involving underaged girls and an orgy island, which sounds like an interesting TV show.

BECKEL: Where's that?

GUILFOYLE: Of course. Now you've got...

GUTFELD: What I'm saying is Jeffrey -- what's his name, Jeffrey Epstein, right? Is that his name, Jeffrey?

GUILFOYLE: Bob's like, "I'm all in. One-way ticket."

PAVLICH: "Where do I go for that one?"

BECKEL: Where's the tour guide.

BOLLING: They want me to get to this, finally. There are some new McDonald's ad that have some people upset.



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (singing): If you're lost and alone and sinking like a stone, carry on, carry on, carry on. We are a shining star. Carry on, carry on. We are who we are.


BOLLING: Well, apparently liberal wusses are up in arms that the evil corporation would use tragedy to sell burgers. We free-market capitalists say, "Back off, squishy progressives." Mickey D's employs almost two million people worldwide and brings good food to all income classes. Me, I'm loving it. Kate, your thoughts?

PAVLICH: I think it's awesome. And I don't think they're necessarily do it to serve burgers. I think that they actually care. Because progressives forget that people from communities, local communities, actually work and patronize McDonald's. So maybe the people there actually have a personal relationship with their customers.

BOLLING: Do you like the...

PAVLICH: Something they don't understand.

BOLLING: Do you like the new ads, Greg?

GUTFELD: I don't know. I hate fast-food ads because I love fast food, and I get angry because I can't eat it. Big Macs somehow seem to find the shortcut bypass that bypasses all my digestive...

GUILFOYLE: Here we go. I knew you were going to bring in your colon.

GUTFELD: But a Big Mac, it's like the EZ Pass that flies through all the tolls of my upper and lower GI track.

GUILFOYLE: And you're going to eat fried chicken tonight. Oh, yes.

BECKEL: Far too much information, Greg.

GUILFOYLE: On the ad, I love it. I'm a big fan of McDonald's. And yes, they have some healthy choices, too. And...

GUTFELD: Boo on the healthy choices. Boo.

GUILFOYLE: Fine, whatever.

BOLLING: How about letting the business do what they want to do with their ads?

BECKEL: I don't care. They can take those signs and put them wherever they want to put them. I mean, I don't care if they put them up wherever they want to put them.

BOLLING: You're fine with that?

BECKEL: I don't have -- what do I care? I can't read the damn thing.

BOLLING: All right.

Ahead, some fools are asking is this the end for football for great Peyton Manning? This fool knows better. He says no chance. The quarterback's future is uncertain to our producers after the Broncos' loss to the Colts. We discuss next.


BECKEL: What started as a tough year for the NFL is ending on a high note as the playoffs have produced some compelling drama. The final four is set as the Patriots, Colts, Seahawks, and Packers battle for a shot to go to the Super Bowl.

Perhaps the biggest story line coming out of the weekend may be the status of one of the league's biggest stars. Future Hall of Famer Peyton Manning seemed noncommittal about his future in the league after his Broncos were beaten.


PEYTON MANNING, BRONCOS QUARTERBACK: My mindset right now is just disappointment after today's game. I'm disappointed right now is what I am.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're not immediately, "I am coming back?"

MANNING: I guess I just can't give that a simple answer. I haven't processed -- I'm processing it. So I can't say that. I could not say that.

BECKEL: Since I've got 23 seconds in my block, let's just go around -- Eric. Going or not.

BOLLING: Peyton, I think he'll come back. Regarding that Cowboy loss to Green Bay, that was a ridiculous call on the one-yard line. They should have won that game. As far as who wins, Seattle looks so strong.

BECKEL: Yes, I agree.

PAVLICH: Packers. Go, Pack, go. I'm a Packers fan...

GUILFOYLE: You and Greta.

PAVLICH: Yes, so...

GUILFOYLE: Pack is back.

BECKEL: I'm really serious about the 23 seconds. So go ahead.

PAVLICH: Oh, my God.

BECKEL: Do you think Manning is going to be around?

PAVLICH: I don't know, but I think that he's a good guy. And I hope that there's more people who come into the NFL who can emulate his example.

BECKEL: I agree.

GUILFOYLE: A good answer.

BECKEL: Greg, I know you follow them carefully.

GUTFELD: The real battle's between Katy Perry playing at half-time and Taylor Swift, her arch nemesis. They should box on the 50-yard line. The winner gets to sing at half. The loser goes home with Adam Levine.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, you and Adam. What a tortured relationship.

BECKEL: Manning going to stay or go?

GUILFOYLE: I think Manny is just -- you know, he's bummed out, because he's a champion, and he wanted to deliver and bring it home. So he's just going to take a moment, but at 38 he's still one of the best -- best quarterbacks of all time; and he'll always be my top five right after Joe Montana.

BOLLING: Brady can be there, too.

BECKEL: I'd say he stays, and believe it or not, I think...

BOLLING: Don't go yet.


BOLLING: Oregon State or Ohio?

BECKEL: Well, Oregon just benched their best player. I'd say Ohio State.

GUILFOYLE: Ohio State.

PAVLICH: I've got to go for Oregon.

BECKEL: "One More Thing" is up next.

GUILFOYLE: Anything else? ESPN (ph)?


GUTFELD: I wonder if Brian Williams is the butt of some jokes today.

BOLLING: Ow. Well done.

GUTFELD: Time for "One More Thing." I go first.


GUTFELD: Greg's Sports Corner.


GUTFELD: All right. If there's one thing you know about sports, you don't get in Hanna Storm's face. Let's take a look at this.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Aaron Rodgers has been downright perfect.


GUTFELD: Slow motion for us. A little slow motion. There you go.




GUTFELD: We've all been there.

GUILFOYLE: It was live TV.

GUTFELD: It was live TV. That stuff happens.

BOLLING: Reminiscent of James Rosen. Remember the two girls?

GUTFELD: I blocked it. Yes.

You're next.

BOLLING: OK. So last night Kevin Spacey won the Golden Globe for his Frank Underwood character. They also released "House of Cards." The day is going to be February 27. Here's a little teaser.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know what takes real courage? Holding it all together when the stakes are this high.


KEVIN SPACEY, ACTOR: We're survivors.


BOLLING: All right. So look for that. Season five -- season three. Sorry about that. "House of Cards."


BECKEL: Every year in America, a number of people die from drinking. I've talked of this many times, but binge drinking is seriously the most dangerous type of drinking, where you drink a lot of alcohol in a short period of time. Most of the people that die from that are underaged, but the biggest group that dies from binge drinking are middle-aged men.


BECKEL: And they have been dying at a far greater rate than they used to. Binge drinking is a very dangerous thing. An average six (ph) persons, mostly adult men, die from alcohol poisoning each day. So I just pass that on to you to decide if binging is a good idea.

GUTFELD: All right. K.G.

GUILFOYLE: OK. So this is a great story of triumph and survival and putting your mind to it. You probably all have heard about this, but let's talk about it.

Ex-NFL player for the Miami Dolphins swam for 16 hours. Rob Konrad is 6'3", 250 pounds. He's a husband and a father; and he said, "I'm not going to die tonight." And no matter what, he swam all the way and landed on the shores of Palm Beach. An incredible story of survival. No life jacket or anything on and fell over when the boat tipped. Take a listen.


ROB KONRAD, FORMER NFL PLAYER: I shouldn't be here. Sixteen hours in the water, and I think I ended up traveling 27 miles.

After some time I just said, "Look, I'm not dying tonight. I've got two beautiful daughters." I was hitting that shore.


GUILFOYLE: Incredible.

GUTFELD: I would have made it about 900 feet.

PAVLICH: Yes. I would be like, "Where are the sharks," to go quick and painlessly.

GUTFELD: Exactly.

PAVLICH: Well, good for him. Good for him. God bless him.

We call this trolling in the Twittersphere. So Chris Christie got in trouble -- not in trouble but a little bit of controversy last week when he was caught hugging the Dallas Cowboys owner, Jerry Jones at the football game.

So then Christie went to the game this weekend against Cowboys and Packers at Packers Stadium in Wisconsin. And the Packers beat Dallas, 26-21, of course, and so Paul Ryan sent out a Twitter to -- directly at -- Twitter Instagram directly at Chris Christie, saying, "Do you need a hug now?" Basically saying -- you know, trolling based on the hug that was causing all the problems from last week. There it is. There's the hug with Jerry Jones.

So, you know, Chris Christie decided to show up to the game this week.

BECKEL: The orneriest man in all football.

PAVLICH: And now we have the evidence, and Paul Ryan just took the shot across the bow in the cyber world. I thought that was great.

GUILFOYLE: You loved it?

PAVLICH: I loved it.


PAVLICH: Chris Christie showed up. He was there with Jerry Jones again. Good to go.

GUTFELD: All right. Check out my "Gut Check." It's up there now.

That's it for us. "Special Report" is up next. Watch it.

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