Anna Nicole Smith's Father Goes 'On the Record'

This is a partial transcript from "On the Record," March 19, 2007, that has been edited for clarity.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: You know Anna Nicole Smith's mother, Virgie Arthur. She fought in court to have Anna Nicole buried in Texas and now is fighting for custody of baby Dannielynn. But what about Anna Nicole's father Don Hogan? Until now, he has shied away from the spotlight, but tonight, Don Hogan is talking right here "On the Record."


VAN SUSTEREN: So, Don, where are we?



HOGAN: Texas.

VAN SUSTEREN: How far are we from Houston?

HOGAN: About 70-mile, 75-miles.

VAN SUSTEREN: Where did you meet Virgie?

HOGAN: I met her at a donut shop in Houston.

VAN SUSTEREN: How long were you married to Virgie?

HOGAN: Not — almost two years.

VAN SUSTEREN: So you and Virgie split up when she was about two, when Anna Nicole was about two?

HOGAN: She was about a year and a half.

VAN SUSTEREN: So where did you go at that point?

HOGAN: I just went on with my life and she went on with hers.

And then me and Anna met up in 1993 again. I was sitting at the house one day, and out of the blue some guy calls me on the phone and asks me if I knew Vickie Lynn Hogan. I said, well, yes, but I hadn't seen her in years. And he said, well, she would like to see you. And they told me they were — I forget now who they were, what company they were that found people, you know, for other people.

And so anyway, they asked me if it would be problem if she called. And I said, no, you know. I was all excited, you know. And anyway, that's where we got back together.

VAN SUSTEREN: What — did she come to see you? Did you go to see her in '93?

HOGAN: I mostly went to see her. I went out to California a couple of times. I went over to (INAUDIBLE) ranch a few times, you know, over there. And it was, you know, mostly me going there.

VAN SUSTEREN: So between the time in '93 and, let's say, last summer when she moved to the Bahamas, did you see her every once in a while?

HOGAN: I would get a postcard or something now and then. I have gotten a few postcards at the house that she would send me. But I haven't seen her since '94.

VAN SUSTEREN: I saw you in Florida. You came for the court hearing. How many days were you there, about?

HOGAN: Just, well, I went back the third day.

VAN SUSTEREN: Tough to walk into the courtroom?


VAN SUSTEREN: Was it tough to walk into the courtroom?

HOGAN: Kind of. But I went out there to learn some stuff, and I did learn a lot.

VAN SUSTEREN: What did you learn?

HOGAN: Well, a lot of different things that I didn't know about different people. And...


HOGAN: Kind of find out about the drugs, and I wanted to go to the courtroom and listen and learn. I talked to a lot of people in the hall about it. You know, I met the Shellys. I went out to lunch with Larry Birkhead. I talked to him. And I found out a whole lot of stuff. And I just — well, I just got a lot of — there is still a lot of question about a lot of things that I want to find out.

VAN SUSTEREN: Did you talk to Howard at all when you were in Florida?

HOGAN: Don't want to talk to Howard.


HOGAN: Well, I just got my own reasons. I don't like the man.


HOGAN: Well, because I got a dead grandson and a dead daughter and Howard is always around. I know that I heard him say himself in the courtroom that he had picked drugs up for her before. And, you know, Larry told me that he tried to get her off of drugs. And then I look around and I see this other guy is cramming drugs down her throat, you know, telling her it's fine to do it.

I just don't see it an accident. I don't see it suicide. And the way I look at it, murder is murder.

VAN SUSTEREN: So you think your daughter's death is a murder?

HOGAN: Well, nobody's put a gun to her head, but somebody sure shoved a lot of drugs down her throat.

VAN SUSTEREN: What about...

HOGAN: And if they didn't make her take it, they encouraged her to take it.

VAN SUSTEREN: What do you think of Larry?

HOGAN: I think Larry is a good kid. I think Larry is the daddy. He is too willing to take the DNA.

Look at Larry. He's got blue eyes. Look at the baby. Look at the hair. Look at Howard. He's got green eyes and dark, dark hair.

Why won't Howard come forth and take a DNA? It's simple. It's cut and dry. Any idiot can figure it out. He knows he ain't the daddy.

VAN SUSTEREN: What do you think of the judge?

HOGAN: Well, I didn't think so much about him. I mean, he just — he didn't impress me.

VAN SUSTEREN: How about Virgie? She — some people are critical of her. Some people are very sympathetic toward her, people have different views. What's your thought?

HOGAN: Well, I told them out there and they called me in, the attorneys for the grand baby, and talked to me and asked me what I thought. And I told them that I would rather see her get the baby now than Howard have the baby.

VAN SUSTEREN: You don't like Howard, do you?

HOGAN: No, I don't like Howard.


HOGAN: I don't hate anybody. But I don't like him.

VAN SUSTEREN: Is he at the top of your list for don't like?

HOGAN: Yes. Right on top. Can't get any higher.


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