Marx or Madison: Which Revolutionary Do You Stand With?

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This is a rush transcript from "Glenn Beck," January 4, 2010. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GLENN BECK, HOST: We're kicking off the new year, 2010, with final arguments on all the big issues that we laid out the case last year. You need to make a decision before we can move forward.

Do you believe many of the people in the White House follow the beliefs of this revolutionary? This is James Madison. Or this revolutionary, Karl Marx? You have to decide, because it really is one or the other. It's either James Madison or Karl Marx.

You can't just take a pinch of Madison and add a dash of Marx; they're diametrically opposed to each other. I will tell you that I am presenting one side of the argument. I desperately would like the other side of the argument. I try to do my homework as I showed you earlier today.

But unless that phone rings, this is the only side of the argument you will hear because the White House will not call to refute anything. They refuse to set the record straight. Instead, all they do is attack. They attack me. They attack this network. They attack tea party goers. You name it — anyone who stands in their way.

The White House has only responded to myself and FOX by saying, "It's not really a news network at this point." Well, some of the George Soros-funded, Hillary Clinton-created liberal blogs named me, as I told you earlier, mis-informer of the year.

Well, gee, it's funny, because they weren't able to come up with a single lie or piece of actual misinformation. They only listed several of my opinions and then they disagreed with those and responded with their opinions. That is called debate.

This is a tactic from the radical leftist Saul Alinsky. Talk about the facts, guys. No, no, no. Instead, Saul Alinsky — he said, pick the target. Freeze it. Personalize it and polarize it. That's what they're doing. It's a distraction.

And it's a dangerous distraction because they're moving on with their agenda. Well, I'm done, America, and I hope you are about finished with this distraction and this game. Until we're having an open and honest debate — and we know where everyone is coming from, truly, case closed.

I've been showing you the evidence tonight and here is some more. I've just mentioned this guy, Saul Alinsky. Not a lot of people know who this guy was at least two years ago. They had no idea of Saul Alinsky. Many in America still don't know who he was.

Well, let me tell you, he was a radical leftist who wrote the book — in fact, I have it on the stack over there — "Rules for Radicals." He wanted to take from the haves and give to the have-nots. That's not this revolutionary. That's this revolutionary.

He wouldn't put a label on himself, but that puts you much closer to Marx than Madison. He also said, "The ends justify almost any means." He also said, quote, "Success or failure is determinant of ethics."

OK, that's weird. It always thought ethics and morals were the starting point. But not according to Saul Alinsky. See, ethics start — either start at the ethics — that's more Madison than Marx. To Saul Alinsky, those are just an afterthought.

Saul Alinsky is irrelevant in today's world. That's what the left will tell you. That's what the left - the left will mock you, "Oh, they're bringing up some `60s radical again. Oh, please, he's old news." Is he?

Do you remember this photo? Let me show you the photo. Remember this? This is President Barack Obama, Professor Barack Obama back in Chicago. No one in the media bothered to look at what he wrote on this blackboard. I did, a couple months back.

It did the journalist's job for them. Here they are. Can you show that? Here I am, showing it's November 18th. You know what he was teaching? He was teaching Saul Alinsky. This is Saul Alinsky's tactics. It's spread the wealth. The socialist who — morally bankrupt individual who would use any means to achieve his ends.

He is willing to teach the views of Saul Alinsky. But what do the rest of us get? No comment. President Barack Obama declined an interview request on the topic of Saul Alinsky during the campaign. No, he doesn't want to talk about it. He'll teach it, but he won't talk about it.

Well, that doesn't make sense because, I mean, if you're a professor who stood at the blackboard and taught Saul Alinsky, you should be an expert on him. You should know. You should know where you stand on Saul Alinsky and his tactics and no American president would accept Saul Alinsky. They would all reject him.

Well, he knows who he is, because he taught him. So the question remains, is the president of the United States a Saul Alinsky guy? More Marx than Madison? Or is our president more Madison than Marx?

See, the media won't follow up on these questions because the same goes for them. The media is more Marx than Madison. Some love him so much that they get a thrill up their leg when they hear President Obama speak. Chris Matthews said that.

He also said that it was, quote, "My job to make this presidency a success," end quote. Well, what does Chris Matthews, the man who loves this president so much, say about Saul Alinsky, a guy who is completely irrelevant, remember? Roll the tape.


CHRIS MATHEWS, MSNBC ANCHOR: Well, to reach back to one of our heroes from the past, from the '60s, Saul Alinsky, who once said that even though both sides have flaws in their arguments and you can always find something nuanced about your own side you don't like, and it's never perfect, you have to act in the end, like there is simple, black-and-white clarity between your side and the other side or you don't get anything done. I always try to remind myself of Saul Alinsky when I get confused.


BECK: Yes. By the way, he was talking to the only socialist in the Congress, Bernie Sanders. And that happened two days before Christmas, or maybe it was three days before Christmas.

Mr. Thrill-Up-My-Leg-Over-Obama always tries to remind himself of, quote, "one of our heroes of the past, Saul Alinsky." One of our heroes. I found the keyword there to be "our," Chris Matthews. Many in the media who cheerlead for this president also hold up Saul Alinsky as their hero, the same Saul Alinsky who wants to take from the haves and give to have-nots.

Gee, where did we hear this before? The same Saul Alinsky who will let success determine his morals. The same Saul Alinsky who will use any means possible to achieve his ends.

Let me give you one more name here. I talked about him before we went on vacation. It's this guy, Robert Creamer. Remember him? Robert Creamer - the guy the press and the top presidential advisers, all of the people on the left, excuse a $2 million bank fraud because he was just trying to help the poor.

What is it that Saul Alinsky said? Let success determine your morals and any means possible to achieve those ends. Boy, that fits Saul Alinsky. It fits Creamer. It fits the media. Does it fit the professor who knows Saul Alinsky's extraordinary tactics extraordinarily well? Professor Barack Obama?

I believe it's beyond a reasonable doubt. Case closed. I know where the media stands. I know where the elites are in Washington. The question is, where do you stand, America? You must make it clear. You decide. They're both revolutionaries. They both had detractors and people who love them in the White House.

You must decide and send a very clear message. Which revolutionary are you for: Marx or Madison?

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