President Trump puts NATO on notice

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," July 11, 2018. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Kennedy, Juan Williams, Jesse Watters, and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is "The Five."

President Trump telling allies it's time to pay up during a tense morning meeting at the NATO summit, the commander-in-chief pushing his America first agenda and sharply criticizing members over their defense spending.


PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Many countries owe us a tremendous amount of money for many years back where they're delinquent, as far I'm concerned, because the United States has had to pay for them. The United States has paid and stepped up like nobody. This has gone on for decades, by the way. This has gone on for many presidents, but no other president brought it up like I bring it up.


PERINO: NATO admits that Trump's consistent pressure is leading to more military spending. The president is also accusing Germany of hypocrisy for relying on Russia for energy.


TRUMP: I think it's very sad when Germany makes a massive oil and gas deal with Russia. You're supposed to be guarding against Russia, and Germany goes out and pays billions and billions of dollars a year to Russia. Germany, as far as I'm concerned, is captive to Russia because it's getting so much of its energy from Russia.


PERINO: So, that tough talk is not sitting well with some critics.


UNINDENTIFIED MALE: It's infuriating to see this happen. It's diplomatic malpractice.

UNINDENTIFIED MALE: Putin made a great investment in the 2016 presidential election and it's paying off for him in Brussels today.

UNINDENTIFIED MALE: This kind of diplomacy looks like Hulk smash.

UNINDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is just a disgrace for the United States to open a NATO meeting like this.

UNINDENTIFIED MALE: It is unprecedented language, and it's a real threat to the alliance.

UNINDENTIFIED MALE: I'm sure he thinks he's being clever, but it's a transparent way to carry out Vladimir Putin's deepest wish.


PERINO: So, Greg, I'm thinking about -- when you talk about like words and deeds, the NATO outcomes are actually what NATO would want. The head of NATO, Stoltenberg, he said basically that, yeah, we're all on track here. You may not like what he said, but if you look what we're doing is all good.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: And how is he placating Russia? I miss that. Look, the difference between a good friend and a bad friend is a bad friend says things behind your back. Donald Trump says it to your face. Essentially, Europe are your pals who always have you drive them everywhere but they never chip in for gas. So, Trump is saying, you know what? It's been a long time. You haven't paid for the gas. You've got to pay for the gas. Other presidents have said it, but they've never said it like this. And what we're learning now is that the media is more outraged when Trump is scolding our allies more so when American politicians are encouraging mob action against our own leaders.

KENNEDY, GUEST CO-HOST: You know what the difference is, when you get protection from the mob, you pay the mob.

GUTFELD: That's true.

KENNEDY: You know, to your analogy, it's even more fitting to say it's like getting in a cab and getting a ride and then you charging the cabdriver.


KENNEDY: That's essentially what he's saying. And, I think a lot of these nations are getting really defensive, and it is expensive. And our military budget is massive.

PERINO: And he wants to increase it, and I wanted to ask you about that. President Trump today has been challenging NATO members to meet their 2 percent commitment. We're at 3.5. But then he upped the ante and he said, actually, we should all go to 4 percent.


PERINO: Are you for that?

KENNEDY: Four percent of GDP, that's what he's asking these member nations. I don't think that means that the U.S. military has to spend any more money. I think we're spending quite a bit. And I think there quite a few redundancies throughout the various branches of the armed forces. But having said that, I do think it's fair. If you want protection, and we're talking about European countries, where's Russia? Is Russia in North America? Who stands the greatest threat? It's those countries who are right next door.

PERINO: And those countries, Juan, are the ones that have picked up their defense spending, especially the Baltic States right their because of their concerns. Also, as we mentioned yesterday, or maybe it was Monday, that Poland is worried because Russia is building up its military capabilities right there on its border.

JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: Right. So, I mean, to me, the funny thing about that tape that we just saw with the president is, it looked to me like watching The Five, and Jesse is talking and the camera puts -- goes to Dana's face and you see all these eye rolling and people looking the other way.

PERINO: I look very intently.


GUTFELD: I think it's you who's the eye roller.



WILLIAMS: Because Kelly and Hutchison, who is our ambassador to NATO were like, what is this guy doing? So, I don't think it's the liberals who are the most -- I think.

WATTERS: Juan is a body language expert now.

WILLIAMS: Well, I was just watching. But I tell you what strikes me from this, Dana, is that what you said is exactly right. People with an imminent sense of threat coming from Russia have upped the ante, but the key point to be made here, in regard to the president's bluster is this, these people aren't exactly in -- rare in terms of paying in to NATO.

PERINO: Right, there's not a kitty.

WILLIAMS: No. He should be talking about, are you paying for your own nation's defense at this 2 percent rate? By the way, 4 percent, as you pointed out accurately, we don't even make a 4 percent contribution for the defense budget.

PERINO: I would be for that, Jesse. I'm for more defense spending.

WATTERS: Yeah, we make about 3.5 percent. And you know who's delinquent? Germany, France and Italy, the two, three biggest guys in Europe. They're at like 1.1. I mean, that's nothing, Juan, and they're on the front line. All he's saying is you guys have to have skin in the game. And when you invest more in your own defense, you feel more invested. And that's all he wants. He's like the international debt collector. Knock, knock. Time to pay up. And, Juan, don't forget, a lot of Americans died in that continent. World War I, World War II, lot of blood and treasure was spilled. Marshall Plan, the arms race, those days are over, we hope. We believe. Time to modernize the treaty and make sure everybody pays their fair share.

KENNEDY: And one of the biggest issues with NATO is communication among the member nations. And they really don't do the best job of communicating military strategy and overall plans, and they could do a better job of that. And I think this forceful communication is very shocking to them. It violates this sort of country club protocol that the world have been operating under for a long time. I think a lot of these countries will be relieved when Donald Trump is no longer in office, but he's here right now and there may be some bluster and there maybe some impulsive words, but at the heart of it are some real questions that have to be tackled. And these countries have to examine what they're doing and what they expect from us and from the alliance and from themselves.

WILLIAMS: Let me just quickly add in response to you, Jesse, that the United States has troops in places like South Korea, Japan -- we -- do you expect that now in terms of defense spending from our European allies?

WATTERS: No, we want to continue that, our projection, because it does keep America safe. But it also -- it also keeps our allies safe. And what he's saying is we're paying for your protection and you're ripping us off on trade. Let's all pay a little bit more so we can all be more secure.

WILLIAMS: Let me just say the United States benefits greatly from the European alliance and NATO. We have managed to stabilize not only keep the Russians at bay. We've stabilized world economies and protected our own interests.

WATTERS: They're getting -- they're not paying enough for it. You want to pay 2 percent of GDP? Pay it. Don't lie about it. A lot of other presidents have asked these countries to pony up.


WILLIAMS: What a one-sided conversation. What a one-sided deal you're talking about.

KENNEDY: I just want to interject something really quickly about Germany, because Germany is directly benefiting from Russia, and this is what the president is saying. You want protection from Russia, but you have a pipeline. You have a direct gas pipeline from Russia that you're profiting off of. So, if they are making that much money from an entity they're scared of, then why don't they use.

WILLIAMS: Excuse me, isn't it the case that that deal was struck, I think, back in 2000 before Russian expansionism efforts began. And secondly, isn't it true that Angela Merkel.

KENNEDY: That's plenty.

WILLIAMS: . is far more critical.

KENNEDY: . to adjust your energy imports.

WILLIAMS: OK, hang on. And isn't it true that Angela Merkel is the one who has been harsh in her criticism of Putin, unlike, hmmm, one Donald Trump.

WATTERS: No, and I think what Trump is saying is why don't you get your energy from America instead of Putin? That's -- it's a tall order.


WILLIAMS: You want the pipeline from Russia to the USA?

WATTERS: No, hopefully, they can buy energy from the United States and not have to get it from the Russians.

PERINO: How would they do that?

WATTERS: We would ship it over there.

WILLIAMS: Oh, my gosh.

WATTERS: Don't we export?

GUTFELD: I think, you know, who benefit greatly -- yeah, by 2020.

WILLIAMS: Russia is pretty far guys.

GUTFELD: Well, we have the technology. You know who benefits greatly from this are the massive welfare states of European countries who don't have to worry about paying for defense because we're paying that bills so they can take care of everybody there. Liberals can never connect that dot. The other thing too is you can only have this conversation if the relationship is stable, and the relationship is stable. You don't discipline other people's children. You certainly can admonish a child or a sibling. And, essentially, Donald Trump is Mike Brady, and Europe is Jan Brady. And he's there telling Jan to clean up her act, make her bed. It's about time. We're all family. This is what.

PERINO: I mean, I agree with you that friends are ones that can tell you, like, when you're.


PERINO: But I also believe that you do it in private. And I think that on the world stage.

GUTFELD: Not always.


WATTERS: I think he's trying to shame these countries.


GUTFELD: It hasn't worked in private.

WATTERS: Private for decades and we've never seen any action.


GUTFELD: I like publicly shaming my friends. It works.

KENNEDY: But the contrast between what Obama did and what Trump is doing is so incredibly starched, and I think they're all shocked. And it's funny to watch American pundits give in to the chaos.


GUTFELD: Because there no difference than the European pundits. They're exactly the same.

WILLIAMS: But wait a second, you need to tune in to right wing radio, because guess what they're saying today? They're saying, hey, didn't Obama say the same thing about getting the Europeans to pay more for defense spending when he was in office. So, it's not new.

GUTFELD: Exactly.

WILLIAMS: It's just that, just as Dana pointed out, you do diplomacy in a quiet way.

GUTFELD: And it didn't work.

WILLIAMS: Don't embarrass your long-time ally.

WATTERS: Juan, it didn't work. Two, I cannot believe you're listening to Rush Limbaugh.

WILLIAMS: Oh, look at this.

GUTFELD: No, no, he's a Michael Savage fan, I hear.

WILLIAMS: I've given up on Alex Jones. You can't give up on Limbaugh. You've got to stick with Limbaugh.

PERINO: All right, I'm done with this one. The left continue to melt down over the President Trump's Supreme Court nominee. And also, it's a big day for us, The Five turns 7. Join the celebration. Share your photos watching the show, especially with your dog. Just go to our Twitter and Facebook pages, post your pix. You can see yourself on The Five a little later in the show. We'll be right back.


WILLIAMS: Oh, no. Those liberals continuing to turn up the heat on President Trump's Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh is meeting with Republican senators for a second day. The View's Joy Behar unloading on President Trump, while also taking aim at Mitch McConnell, the senate majority leader, for his role in blocking President Obama's nominee, Merrick Garland.


JOY BEHAR, THE VIEW CO-HOST: Why would a president who is under investigation by the FBI for obstruction of justice and collusion be allowed to pick a Supreme Court justice who will be there. I'll be dead. There are many people in this room who will still be alive and need abortions and what have you need health care. How dare he be allowed to do this when he is under investigation?

UNINDENTIFIED MALE: They stole the first nomination of the Supreme Court, absolute theft.

BEHAR: How come Mitch McConnell is not in jail? That's what I want to know.


WILLIAMS: Well, wow, how come Mitch McConnell is not in jail, Kennedy?

KENNEDY: That's -- so what Joy Behar is doing is she's relying on an exaggerated emotionalist approach to something she finds disconcerting. And, instead of talking about facts and solutions, she really just leans into hysterics and hyperbole. And it's a really bad idea and it is what the left needs to avoid if they want to come up with a cohesive message and find someone to deliver that message who can defeat the president in 2020, because at this rate not only do you have Trump supporters who back him undoubtedly, you also have a lot of independence going, you know what? I've heard this guy is falling about everything. It's still very much in the sky. I'm going to wait and see what this guy says during the senate confirmation before I declare that we're all going to die.

WILLIAMS: OK. So, Jesse, a lot of people are saying, well, you know, Brett Kavanaugh is a nice guy. Look, I say, has a lovely family, lives out in, I think, in Chevy Chase, goes to church, coaches the kids basketball. But, you know, didn't people say that about Kagan and Sotomayor? They're funny, they're nice. They're approachable. Is that really what this is about?

WATTERS: I don't understand the question, but I think you're trying to say is that these are wolves in sheep's clothing, is that what you're trying to say?

WILLIAMS: No, I think they're -- I think that, you know.

PERINO: Temperament is important.

WILLIAMS: Go ahead, I'm sorry.

PERINO: Temperament on the court is important. I think that's one of the reason.

WILLIAMS: Yes. But so it applies to liberals and Democrats. And is that a reason to support Brett Kavanaugh?

WATTERS: Well, I think it's one reason to support someone -- is a kind and gracious and gentleman that has a family, and like you said lives in the Maryland suburbs. I just think that contradicts -- it contradicts the caricature of him as some sort of demon that is trying to injure women and get on the court and protect Trump from impeachment.

WILLIAMS: Wait a second, you're saying that he wouldn't undo Roe?

WATTERS: I don't believe, based on his statements, that he would undo Roe. But I don't think Roe is going to reach the Supreme Court.


WATTERS: That's just my personal opinion. I also don't think cocaine Mitch would do too well in jail.

WILLIAMS: What are you talking about?

WATTERS: You remember because they used to call him cocaine Mitch. I don't think he.


WILLIAMS: That's unfair to Mitch McConnell. That's a slander.

WATTERS: I'm going -- it's a joke, Juan. I'm also going to invoke The View rule which is I'm not going to criticize Joy Behar, because I don't actually think Joy Behar believes what she says. I think she's just saying that for applause. She's not a constitutional scholar, let's be honest. She's a political pundit at best. But I think she just saying that for applause, and I look forward to appearing on The View.


WILLIAMS: You're so subtle. So, Dana, the fight really comes down to now, will the hearings begin soon, or will they be delayed until after the midterms? McConnell says he wants Kavanaugh seated to the start of the October term of the Supreme Court. Democrats are saying, wait a second, this guy is so political, having been on Ken Starr's prosecution of Clinton, on the Bush secretary of staff.

PERINO: I'm going to call B.S. on that.

GUTFELD: Do you know what that stands for?

PERINO: Butter and sticks?



PERINO: A couple of things. The Democrats have decided that they are all, almost all, are against him, but they can't settle on the same reason why. So they're scrambling. They even got to a point where -- now a few of them, like Naral came out -- I thought that they had a pretty interesting position, and then they came out with this thing making fun of his name because his name is Brett, and you can't have somebody named Brett because it sounds like a frat boy that's going to be on the Supreme Court. So, you know, when their children grow up. I think their outrage is not sustainable. Until there's going to be hearings.


PERINO: Yeah, it's crazy. But I also think that their outrage is not sustainable until there's going to be hearings. So, whether the hearings are late August or after the midterms, I think it will be late August, then the outrage that the liberals have is not sustainable, it's not consistent, they're not going to have enough money to do it. There's not the much to go on. He's on record for the last 12 years with 300 different opinions. Those are all publicly available. He's very well-known. He was confirmed in 2006. All those things from the Ken Starr report to his work as staff secretary that was all available then as well. So, I think that the stall tactics are not good. If I were the Democrats, I would try to lose quickly because they're going to lose. Get over it and move on.

WILLIAMS: So, Greg, one quick question on this.

GUTFELD: I'll have a long answer.

WILLIAMS: OK. Seriously. One of the liberals' complaints is that President Trump may have to face a subpoena. And if he does, then that issue could rise to the Supreme Court, and we know that Kavanaugh is someone who has said he believes in presidential power and that you don't allow that to happen.

GUTFELD: That is one concern of many concerns that I ignore. I have to say, Donald Trump is the best thing that ever happened to The View. Without Donald Trump, it would just be a knitting circle in hell. An unfunny version of the Golden Girls. He's given them so much further. I admire Joy so much. You have to be superhuman to be this distraught all the time. She's like a Marvel character that you would call outrage-o. Powered by unfettered triggered emotion. At any moment, she could explode with this renewable energy of superior whining. It is absolutely unbelievable that every day, you took some at the gym, and it's on and they are just screaming about Trump. I tell you, he's got to be doing something right if he's creating that much renewable energy. I mean, they could fuel a power plant.

PERINO: They should do that in Germany.

GUTFELD: They should.

KENNEDY: They should send Joy Behar as a special energy envoy to Germany to power the entire country.

GUTFELD: The windmills.

PERINO: And basically cut your dependence on Russia.

GUTFELD: Yes. Outrage is a great renewable energy.

PERINO: It would be so good if you could bottle that up.

WILLIAMS: I've never seen anything like that among conservatives with that guy Obama. Oh, anyway, next, Professor Gutfeld, our buddy, enlightens us on claims that liberals are causing the decay of U.S. cities. That debate, so much fun, when we return.


GUTFELD: Let's talk feces.


GUTFELD: There's been a lot of talk about how bad political division is, but I think I found something worse than political division: Political agreement as in one-party cities and countries. One is worse than two.

A major medical association just canceled its convention in San Fran, costing citizens and businesses millions. Why did they drop out? Public drug use, increased risk of violence and, yes, human waste on the streets in this one party, lockstep town. In S.F., human waste related complaints have soared 400 percent. Talk about putting up with a lot of crap. Meanwhile, New York adopts a similar road map, no longer prosecuting stuff like public urination. Sidewalks are now bathrooms. In another one party non-decisive town.

Meanwhile, a new survey ranks, S.F., New York City, D.C., Detroit and Oakland, as worst run cities. Yep, all one-party towns ignoring the dispossessed as uniformly leftist as MSNBC and every bit is removed from reality. You want knee-jerk agreement? These cities are dying from it. What's way worse than two quarreling voices? Try one leftist voice as a mob.

So, as we talk about how bad political division is, real-life problems are multiplying. As America improves as a whole with the growing economy and zero unemployment, one-party runs our country once proud communities into the ground. While they tout their phony tolerance, they turn society into an open-air clinic for people who need real help, not a blind eye and just a shrug. They make "Mad Max" look like Candyland.

I only said feces once. That was the deal that we made. I just set it twice. I apologize. I won't say it feces again. Three times. All right, Kennedy, you are a fellow Californian, you've seen this up close. It's not pretty.

KENNEDY: Well, it's interesting because there's been this big explosion. And it's something that really -- I'm talking about the homeless population, and tent cities, and big cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco, and it's because the left wants to be really helpful but they tend to exacerbate the problem. For example, in New York City, instead of building homeless shelters or helping people find jobs, or get treatment for mental health and addiction issues, they shuttle people into $600 a night hotel rooms in Times Square.


KENNEDY: And that money could be much better spent -- well, first of all, by individuals because a lot of this is outside the purview of what government is supposed to do, and it really only makes the problem so much worse. You end up having to spend so much more money that you raise people's taxes, you lower quality of life, and never really have an honest discussion about how to make things better.

GUTFELD: Yes. No, Juan, serious question. You are a good liberal. Would you not agree that what makes a liberal better is a conservative, and likewise, what makes a conservative better is a liberal, and the fact that you need to have a certain level of opposition to help create a stronger argument. Don't you think these cities are suffering from a lack of a counter narrative just so they can have a debate?

WILLIAMS: Yeah, I think that's true. I must say, though, I think part of this debate is deinstitutionalization.

GUTFELD: I agree.

WILLIAMS: . and it started under, I think, a Republican president, as I recall. And the second thing I would say is that if you look at these cities, but I noticed that some big cities like Chicago with Rahm Emanuel, L.A., Houston, Democratic mayors aren't on your list, they're doing pretty good. And I say even with those cities on your list, including the one we're sited at the moment, New York, boy, boom city. People moving in, real estate value going up, so, I don't know.

GUTFELD: The marriage a boom, others are poop.

WILLIAMS: I'm just telling you, people might be discombobulated overseeing homeless people, because they say, "I don't like having to deal with bums and the like." But boy, people aren't exactly moving away from these cities.

GUTFELD: Well, it's rich people.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Well, probably -- yes, probably that's because the commutes are so bad, because the infrastructure is so bad. And we haven't figured out a way to invest in that.

And I don't -- I was surprised that Seattle wasn't on your list.


PERINO: But maybe it didn't make that top ten. But we -- just recently, we saw that they did that -- re-upped the idea where you could do drugs legally in that one area of town. And I mean, like, everybody's property prices around the area, like, they're young families, so what has happened recently, millennials are starting to leave cities for the suburbs. Why would -- why would you do that? You might want to live in the city, but it's not safe to do so.

GUTFELD: You don't want kids walking amongst syringes and feces.


JESSE WATTERS, CO-HOST: The count is now up to five, I believe, in the control room. I think I hit my number.

Like you said, you need political competition.


WATTERS: So you hold Democrats accountable, and there's also no local media to hold these people accountable.

GUTFELD: Exactly.

WATTERS: There's no people shoving cameras in their face and saying these --

GUTFELD: There's no Jesse Watters.

WATTERS: -- programs aren't working. Jesse Watters everywhere. These programs aren't working. Shame, shame on you.

And there's also so much permissive, you know, behavior out there. There's no standards; there's no accountability.

KENNEDY, CO-HOST: Are you saying bring back Rudy Giuliani in every major city?

GUTFELD: Yes! Yes!


WATTERS: Rudy for America's mayor.

GUTFELD: Hell, yes. The greatest mayor that ever existed.

WATTERS: Because you know why? He was so pro-police. A lot of these mayors don't want police to crack down on some of this stuff --


WATTERS: -- because they think that's mean.

KENNEDY: Well, the quality of life laws would go over like a lead balloon in places like San Francisco and Los Angeles.

GUTFELD: You -- don't you believe, though, that a lot of the responsibility -- the young, rich people that are moving to California, who are so wealthy because of Silicon Valley. But they aren't -- they're traitors to the places they move to, because they aren't contributing.

PERINO: Well, they can -- because they can live up high.

GUTFELD: They live up high, so they're not --

KENNEDY: They're building bubbles.

GUTFELD: Building bubbles.

KENNEDY: They can afford to insulate themselves --


KENNEDY: -- especially in places where you don't take public transportation --


KENNEDY: -- you don't walk a lot, and you drive everywhere.

WILLIAMS: And you've got your own Google bus.

WILLIAMS: You guys are so off on this. Young people are moving into cities, and even seniors now prefer to live in big cities.

KENNEDY: Have you seen the rent prices in San Francisco?

WILLIAMS: I'm just telling you, though, young people, millennials want to go to New York. They want to go to D.C.

PERINO: Everybody wants to live in the city. That's why they should make the cities better.

GUTFELD: All right. Dana, always sensible. You don't have to use the foul language. Yes. Got it. No. 6. That wasn't me.

All right. The anti-Trump resistance goes global ahead of the president's visit to the U.K. later this week. That's next.



KENNEDY: And tonight, Chris Martin cries. More on that later.

It looks like our friends across the pond won't be giving President Trump the royal treatment during his first official trip to the U.K. later this week. For example, the American embassy in London is warning U.S. citizens there to keep a low profile during an expected three days of major protests.

Anti-Trumpers in London have been given the OK to fly a giant Trump baby balloon. Look, he's got a cell phone in his hand. And there's a social media push to make Green Day's 2004 hit "American Idiot" the top song on the British charts by the time the president arrives. It would've been "Three Lions." That's their very football song, but unfortunately, England lost. Again, more on that later.

So "American Idiot" is -- is what anti-Trumpers are pushing in the U.K. What should the president's song be as he steps foot?

GUTFELD: Well, first, I want to point out that this is not different -- any different than the way they treated George Bush. I lived in London from 2005 to 2007.

PERINO: Well, those were the years.

GUTFELD: And they -- they would come into pubs. They would just lecture me on how shameful Bush is. So they're -- they're always like this. If you're not left of the Gang of Four, than they hate your guts. That's just the way people are. Again --

WATTERS: You spent time in pubs?

GUTFELD: I know. Basically, America is Mike Brady, and England is Oliver. And they just are always mad at Daddy.

KENNEDY: Not real Daddy.

GUTFELD: I would choose -- I would choose "God Save the Queen" by The Sex Pistols.

KENNEDY: Very good.



PERINO: Well, I kind of -- I took the assignment a different way. I may not have read it quickly. I felt like "Let It Be" by the Beatles would be the best one. Just everyone, just chill out.

GUTFELD: That's a good one.

PERINO: Just ignore him. Like if you don't want him there.

GUTFELD: Changed my mind. "There There, My Dear" by Dexy's Midnight Runners.

KENNEDY: See, I didn't know they -- I thought they were a one-hit wonder. Didn't know they had a B-side.

Jesse Watters.

GUTFELD: He has a B-side.

WATTERS: And a C-side. I would -- you know what I just think is funny? When all these other foreign leaders come to America, no one cares.


WATTERS: No one knows they're here. No one protests. No one even bothers to protest, because they don't care and know who they are. But our presidents go over there. Everyone's like, "Oh!" They get all worked up. They did it with Bush and Reagan. It just shows how --

KENNEDY: They think Brian May is the prime minister.

PERINO: But they ruled out the red carpet for President Obama.

WATTERS: Of course they did. The citizen of the world, of course.

Yes. I don't know what song. I also did not get the assignment.

PERINO: You didn't get the assignment?

WATTERS: I'm going to go with something by the Rolling Stones. Something from the Rolling Stones.

GUTFELD: Something from the Rolling Stones? How about --

KENNEDY: "Start Me Up?"

GUTFELD: Yes, there you go.

WATTERS: Does that work?

GUTFELD: No, "Street Fighting Man." Because that's what Trump is. He's a street-fighting man.


GUTFELD: There you go.

WATTERS: Nailed it. I get credit for that, right?



KENNEDY: By proxy.

GUTFELD: Hey, to Fritz, we all look alike.

WATTERS: With the assist.


WILLIAMS: I was thinking about this. So you could -- I understand that Trump sent a copy of Elton John's "Rocket Man" over to Kim Jong-un? Right?

PERINO: No, that was fake news.

WILLIAMS: Oh, I thought it was real. It's not true?

PERINO: I think it was fake news. A South Korean reporter said that, and then Mike Pompeo says not true.

WILLIAMS: Oh, not true. OK. Well, thank you, Dana.

So I'll have to go with something else. So I guess I'd go, like -- how about Jimi Hendrix, "All Along the Watchtower"? Right? Because people are watching, and they're trying to figure out this guy. And they think, "Why are people tolerating this bully coming over here and trying to, like, embarrass Theresa May? Boris Johnson, Mr. Brexit, gone. Embarrassed, right? So he's out --

GUTFELD: But he was done in by an ally.

WILLIAMS: He was done in by his stupidity. How about that?

GUTFELD: No, it was an ally who did it.

WILLIAMS: But I'm just telling you, they're watching. The world is watching, and the world just thinks, "Huh."

By the way, Jesse --


WILLIAMS: -- if you live in Washington, just the other day. I forget who it Dana might help me. Some foreign leader came and he was beating up their Americans who were protesting his visit. And now the cops --

PERINO: Do you mean Erdogan?

WILLIAMS: Was it Erdogan?

PERINO: That would be our NATO ally.

WILLIAMS: Yes, yes. That sweet

KENNEDY: We need to kick Turkey out of NATO.

GUTFELD: Those bodyguards -- those bodyguards were pretty impressive.

KENNEDY: They were a bunch of thugs.

WILLIAMS: I hope we don't have that happen.

KENNEDY: The two songs I think you two -- U-2. You're the expert over there. One, Kendrick Lamar "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe." The president needs to have that as his anthem.

PERINO: She's quoting someone.


KENNEDY: Yes, that's the name of the song.


KENNEDY: And Western Europe needs Destiny's Child, "Bills, Bill, Bills."

(singing): Have you seen my bills?

WATTERS: A lot of unacceptable language at this table.

GUTFELD: How about "Beat on the Brat" by the Ramones?

KENNEDY: That's a great -- that's my favorite Ramones song.

GUTFELD: It's one of the greatest Ramones --

KENNEDY (singing): Beat on the brat. Beat on the brat.

GUTFELD: There you go. Look it up, America?

KENNEDY: All right. Very good. Don't -- just apologize, America. Don't go anywhere. "The Fastest Seven" is next.


WATTERS: Welcome back. Time for --


GRAPHIC: Fastest 7


WATTERS: -- "The Fastest Seven." First up, actor Sacha Baron Cohen under fire just days before the debut of his new show, "Who Is America?" Sarah Palin ripping the British comedian, calling him sick for conducting a gotcha interview with the former Alaska governor while disguised as a disabled veteran. Cohen apparently also tricked former vice president Dick Cheney during a different interview.


SACHA BARON COHEN, ACTOR: Is it possible to sign my waterboard kit?

DICK CHENEY, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Sure. That's a first. That's the first time I've ever signed a waterboard.


WATTERS: Oh, my God. Are you going to watch this, Greg?

GUTFELD: I don't know. Sacha Baron Cohen has done absolutely genius things. His "Ali G. Show" is amazing. My problem with him is that a lot of his targets are always polite people. He preys on the natural Midwestern reluctance to call him out, but he doesn't go after soccer hooligans and make fun -- He doesn't go to a pub and make fun of Milwal fans as an Arsenal fan. He doesn't go after radical imams.

What he does is he has --

KENNEDY: Oh, he does. He went -- he talked to the leader of the Al-Aqsa Brigade.

GUTFELD: I stand corrected. Then I'm wrong on that. But he hasn't talked with the soccer hooligans.

KENNEDY: He got run out of the terrorists' office.

GUTFELD: I never saw that one. Was that his Ali G.?

PERINO: They weren't Midwestern polite.

KENNEDY: No. I mean, I think he could have been killed.

GUTFELD: I just think most of the people, though, without exception, he focuses on, expects -- he knows that they're not going to, you know, come out after him.

WATTERS: This was at a different level. I think people were very upset that he pretended to be a disabled veteran.

PERINO: And there are -- disabled veterans deserve all of our help and support and encouragement, not this.

WATTERS: And Sarah Palin, it looks like, really got snookered. She went all the way there for a sit-down interview, and it didn't go too well.

WILLIAMS: Yes, she said he's evil, exploitative and sick, Jesse. Which is not far from the character that he plays. He wants to be seen that way. I think he's having fun.

I do think that, in the case of Sarah Palin, that was rude, because she had to travel.


WILLIAMS: She went to him. So, you know, I think that's not nice to Sarah Palin.

GUTFELD: Somebody should have vetted it.

WATTERS: Yes, obviously they did not vet it. So that's on her, her people, I guess.

KENNEDY: She said that she got a through a speaker's bureau. So what he does is he gives you, like, a mountain to sign.


KENNEDY: The release is massive, and hidden within there --

GUTFELD: Oh, my.

KENNEDY: -- is the real context of the show, so you have to read everything very, very carefully.

GUTFELD: I -- I'm going to be very careful.

PERINO: Wow, I didn't know that.

KENNEDY: But I'm going to watch it before I judge.

GUTFELD: Me, too.

KENNEDY: Thank you, Greg.

WATTERS: I guess it's Sunday night.

All right. Everyone has got an opinion on passwords. They're too long, too hard to remember. And some are downright stupid.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So the combination is one, two, three, four, five.

RICK MORANIS, COMEDIAN: That's the stupidest combination I ever heard in my life. That's the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage.


WATTERS: Wasn't that Podesta's password?


WATTERS: Turns out we're all sick and tired of passwords, too. According to a new study, 64 percent of Americans are annoyed by long passwords filled with letters, numbers and symbol. And 78 percent say they can't even keep track of all their passwords, which isn't surprising. The average person polled had 34 different online accounts. That is a lot of accounts.

GUTFELD: I wouldn't mind it so much. It's when you're going -- you're calling your bank about something and they ask the questions, and you can't remember the questions, because you don't remember the password.


GUTFELD: I get the feeling that they derive pleasure from it, like when -- the angrier you get, the more they just kind of go, "We're going to ask you another question." They should be more supportive during the frustration.

PERINO: Give you a little hint.

GUTFELD: By the way, my password is TastyUnicorn5000. But you don't know what kind of accounts I have.

WATTERS: But you have -- do you have lots of different passwords, or do you have one password that fits everything? Like --

PERINO: My niece works in cybersecurity. So she hooked me up.

GUTFELD: Jasper? Jasper?

WATTERS: Combinations of Jasper.

PERINO: But it's -- my passwords are computer-generated. So, like, you don't know what they are.

But I do think that where we're headed is it's going to be face recognition, and that will help for this problem. But it has so many problems, and I would love to do a segment on it one day.

KENNEDY: I have face recognition on my phone, and it does not recognize my face half the time.

But you're right, that's what it's going to go to. That's why -- there are thumb prints and various ways of -- you know, retina scans and all that stuff, because people are getting so sick of this that technology will come up with a problem. Or with a solution, rather.

WILLIAMS: So you've got -- you've got to stay with us for my "One More Thing," because it will remind you of this story.

But my password should be something like, HelloVlad. Because I think the Russians are in there anyway.

WATTERS: Oh, Juan.

WILLIAMS: But I've got to say, I am so frustrated with this, so my wife came up with a solution. She introduced me to LastPass, which is you put it in there, and then you go to LastPass, and it lets you in everything. Except than I think, "Well, what was the password for LastPass?" And that's how stupid I can be.

WATTERS: All right.

KENNEDY: The best is people who forget their password for Bitcoin, and there is no way of retrieving it.

GUTFELD: That's true.

WATTERS: Too bad. All right. Finally, get your party hats on, because it's our birthday. "The Five" turns seven today, and we could have not done it -- we could not have done without you, our loyal viewers.

To help us celebrate the special occasion, we asked you to send us photos of you watching the show. Here's Janelle enjoying the show.

PERINO: She's cute.

WATTERS: Hey, Janelle.

GUTFELD: Why does she have to be cute? Dana?

WATTERS: Here is Keith Connolly, taking a picture of us outside the set.


WATTERS: During taping one time. I think I -- was he the one that said something to you, Juan?

And loyal viewer Jocelyn is raising her 10-year-old son Evan right. There you go, Evan.

And do dogs count? Because here's --


PERINO: Definitely.

WATTERS: -- Jan.

GUTFELD: Aww, Jan. Little hairy --

PERINO: Very cute. Greg, you were just on vacation, and you said that our fans are the best.

GUTFELD: They are the best. They're everywhere, and it's like a secret club. You're walking -- and anywhere, people just go like this, "Hey." They don't say -- they don't run. But also they --

WATTERS: They're quiet.

GUTFELD: But also because you're in their living room, and you've share history and conflict with them. They feel that they know you, and you do know us, because we're real.

WILLIAMS: Do they call you Sean? Because he was in here Monday.

GUTFELD: I know.

WILLIAMS: Yes, he was playing Greg.

GUTFELD: We do look alike. We use the facial recognition.

PERINO: Seven years is a long time.

WILLIAMS: But I've got to tell you something, it's no secret society to me. I mean, so I'm the left of center on this set, right? But everywhere -- I mean, you tell me in New York, I'm going to tell you something, people recognize and say good things about "The Five" everywhere.


KENNEDY: You wear your FOX News hat everywhere you go.

WILLIAMS: No, I don't. I must say, sometimes when I'm coming from the gym, I have on a FOX jacket if it's raining.

PERINO: And they love it. Everyone loves it. And we love our fans, and we love the chance to be here.

WATTERS: When everybody comes up to me, they say, "How do you deal with Juan?"

And I say, "I get paid to."

"One More Thing" up next.


PERINO: It's time now for "One More Thing" -- Jesse.

WATTERS: A quick happy birthday to my man Luigi, who's out in Vegas playing cards. I know you're watching, so happy birthday. You share the same birthday as "The Five."

GUTFELD: We don't care.

WATTERS: Also, off the coast of England, seagulls are getting drunk. Check this out. They've been, I guess, eating from a -- you're supposed to be drunk. They said this video was good. I thought you guys were going to be flying around and crashing and falling over. Well, the seagull's supposed to be drunk.

KENNEDY (singing): I'll fly away.

PERINO: How do you know it's drunk?

WATTERS: Well, this is supposed to be a video of drunk seagulls flying around and falling around, because they were eating waste products from a local brewery. But you know what? It didn't go that well.

PERINO: It's a drunk seagull that's very steady on his feathers.

WATTERS: Yes. That would pass the test.


WILLIAMS: OK. So you know how young people are always making fun of us old folks, because we don't know anything about managing technology? Well, this doesn't help.

John Hart, a New Mexico granddad, was on Sandia Peak in Albuquerque when he met a couple that was about to become engaged. The young man asked Hart to record a video of the beautiful moment when he was going to propose to his wife. Take a look and see what happened.

PERINO: Oh, dear.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Christopher, I didn't know it was going to happen, but I sure said something.


WILLIAMS: Yes, that's right. That's right, folks. He didn't flip the camera on the phone, so he recorded himself watching the marriage proposal. Everybody had a big laugh. All's well that ends well and best of luck to the happy couple.

GUTFELD: They beat him unconscious.

PERINO: No, no, no.

All right. It's Wednesday, also known as hump day, and there's a good --


KENNEDY: Butter sticks!

WILLIAMS: I like butter sticks.

PERINO: Anyway, watch --

GUTFELD: Not on hump day.

WILLIAMS: That's why -- that's why I sit over here.

PERINO: Can you show this dog getting reunited with its owner after being away for two weeks, because it got spooked during the fireworks and a local animal shelter found the owner and now they're reunited, which is a very lovely thing.

You can also have a fun Wednesday, also known as -- because you have a new "I'll Tell You What" podcast. So that's very fun.


GUTFELD: Speaking of podcasts, mine is up. You can find it at, something like that. And I just tweeted it. It's with Jonathan Rauch, who wrote a great book called "The Happiness Curve," which is about how to be happy.

And this, quickly.


GRAPHIC: Greg's Prestigious Awards


GUTFELD: "Greg's Prestigious Awards." A couple weeks ago, Juan Williams won a prestigious journalism award. I remember that. Right?


GUTFELD: Anyway, I've won an award. I was named an official Seamless reviewer. Yes. Seamless is a food delivery service, and apparently, I use it so often.

WATTERS: He complained so often.

GUTFELD: I do -- but I do actually rate my food, my Chinese food.

PERINO: So you're official.

GUTFELD: I'm an official -- So when you go on Seamless and you see Greg G. is rating this Chinese food, that's me!

PERINO: That's so awesome. That's so prestigious.

GUTFELD: It's better than yours, Juan.

PERINO: Kennedy.

WILLIAMS: Thank you.

KENNEDY: The only person more excited is everyone in Croatia, because they have made the World Cup final. This is an incredible feat, and they beat England, who was favored to win.


KENNEDY: It was a stunning upset. England got farther than anyone in the U.K. thought they would. And it shows why this game is so unpredictable and so exciting. Only three goals scored during that entire -- that entire semifinal.

GUTFELD: Trump should rub it in.

WATTERS: Are they paying their NATO dues?

PERINO: Don't worry. He probably is.

KENNEDY: France versus Croatia on FOX Sunday at 11 a.m.

PERINO: All right. Set your DVRs, never miss an episode of "The Spa" [SIC]. What is it called?

GUTFELD: "The Spa"?

PERINO: "The Five." And it's our seventh season. "Special Report" is up next.

WATTERS: I'm going to go to the spa.

PERINO: Mike, we've had quite a show. Over to you.

MIKE EMANUEL, FOX NEWS: Thank you very much, Dana. I had England. Sorry about that.

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