This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," May 26, 2017. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, FOX NEWS HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." President Trump continues his foreign trip by meeting with leaders at the G7 summit in Italy.
I'm Kimberly Guilfoyle, in for Sean tonight, who is off for the Memorial Day weekend. And he will be back on Tuesday.
President Trump, who has made fighting extremism a staple of his overseas trip appears to have scored a big win, with G7 nations agreeing to do more to combat terrorism. Now, while the president is getting strong reviews for his diplomatic efforts, many in the mainstream media are still attacking him. Take a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The entire world is watching. And of course, most importantly, Vladimir Putin's watching. It seemed like yesterday was his love note to Vladimir Putin. It really did. There's only one explanation for the all this. And it's all of the other stuff that his ally, that his brethren, that his butter, his cake is being buttered, somehow with the Russians.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The fact that our president does not respect those allies, actually shows more warmth to Putin and his cronies, more warmth to the Saudis, where of course, the 9/11 terrorists came from, that's really disturbing.
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GUILFOYLE: And joining us now with reaction, the host of "Michelle Malkin Investigates" on CRTV.com, Michelle Malkin. So Michelle, welcome to the program, lots to discuss. So far, I want to get your general impressions in terms of President Trump's first foreign trip. How do you think it's going?
MICHELLE MALKIN, CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR: I think it's been highly successful, and I think that's why you see all of these Lilliputians in the elite liberal media whining and moaning.
What is it that they want out of the leader of the free world, our commander-in-chief, the president of United States? Well, we obviously know what they prefer. They prefer the world apology tour that Obama conducted for over eight years.
And I don't know if you remember this, Kimberly, but there was a joke T-shirt during the Obama years, you know, kind of like the concert T-shirts you get from your favorite band with all of the greatest hits on the back?
And that's what it was like with Obama, time and time again, going overseas, groveling, trashing America. Do you remember in Strasbourg, France, where he called America arrogant, where he apologized to the Muslim world for us taking a stand against terrorism, which he would never do explicitly, of course, all of the whitewashing, the euphemisms, going overseas to Europe and apologizing that America would assert itself and assert and defend its own sovereignty. He called that dictating to the rest of the world.
And finally -- finally, we have a president who physically and ideologically will elbow, right, do what he can to make sure that America literally is first in those photographs. And we have these gossip girls in the media--
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God!
MALKIN: -- who are fretting and moaning about the length of his handshakes with European leaders!
GUILFOYLE: Oh, it's unbelievable, little crybabies and (INAUDIBLE) a little band of mean girls running around just upset about everything, gossiping, texting each other to say, Oh, can you believe what the president is doing? I mean, it seems as if they really cannot wrap their heads around the idea that he's doing a great job, that he's been successful, and by the way, that he was far better well received on this foreign trip than he's been treated here in this country.
MALKIN: Exactly. And look what happens when you assert yourself. You command respect.
MALKIN: Here, domestically, you have all of these leftist propagandists, the propaganda media bemoaning the fact that Trump had the gall and the courage to go up at these meetings and say, Look, NATO, you want to pay your fair share. We -- we're -- we -- we take the bulk of that burden, and it's time that you put your money where your sanctimonious mouths are!
And he's not going to be two-faced about it the way that Obama was. And he's not going to push (ph) people around, and he's not going to use the kind of language and dulcet tones to deal with either our allies or our enemies!
GUILFOYLE: Yes, it's unbelievable. And by the way, why is it a bad thing that the president's, like, Everybody pay their fair share? I don't think that we need to remind anybody that, listen, we stand -- when one is attacked, we stand with you. I get the article 5 thing, but I mean, this is sort of obvious.
But people are trying to get away with not paying the money, but they want all the benefits, you know, the United States backing them up while they run around with gator (ph) arms (ph) and they can't put their hands in their pocket to pay the dues!
MALKIN: Exactly, Kimberly. And whether we're talking about NATO, G7, or the United Nations, it's the American taxpayer that has been the hero of the world. Finally, we have a spokesman to point that out.
I think it's an interesting juxtaposition when you look at these speeches that Donald Trump has given on this tour, the assertiveness tour as opposed to the apology tour--
MALKIN: -- and take Mark Zuckerberg's commencement speech. That is what the liberal media would prefer Trump go overseas and do, that our responsibility is to be citizens of the world--
MALKIN: -- rather than American citizens putting America first.
GUILFOYLE: No, it's unbelievable. It's, like, the socialism apology, you know, tour, the (INAUDIBLE) snap (ph) (INAUDIBLE) like President Obama did. But so he's got to -- the president has got to have, you know, a team to put together to try to combat all these, you know, stories that (ph) talk about, you know, what's going on here at home now, these, like, Russian collusion investigations and sensational stories that the mainstream media is frothing at the mouth about.
So there has been reports that he's going to set up sort of a war room, you know, like, street fighters to be able to get out to do the president's messaging. What do you make of these reports?
MALKIN: Well, I'm glad to hear it. And I'm glad to hear that Steve Bannon is going to be the one leading it.
MALKIN: And it is this assertive stance, a stance of not just sitting back and allowing all of these progressives to hijack the Trump agenda, to hijack the narrative. This is why Donald Trump was put into the White House in the first place.
And it is a daily slog. I do not envy the folks in the Trump administration that have to deal with this every single day. It's enough that they have to combat our international and foreign enemies--
MALKIN: -- but the domestic enemies within this country, and specifically, Kimberly, within the fourth estate -- I think it was important for him to call to the carpet all of these leakers--
MALKIN: -- who are the real threat to national security in America.
GUILFOYLE: It's unbelievable the amount of leaks making America less safe, compromising our national security! It's got to come to a stop. It's completely, you know, affecting his ability to govern and put his policies and his platform forward.
But I'm concerned, Michelle, because I feel that he needs the right people around him to get this under control because this is a man about business. He wants to get these things done. He has every intention of fulfilling his campaign promises.
But my goodness, who are these people, you know, that are inside the White House, et cetera, that are obstructionist and essentially almost playing for the other side, you know, crippling the president's ability to get work done? It is frustrating beyond belief!
MALKIN: It is. I couldn't have said it any better than you just did, Kimberly. We've got a West Wing, an East Wing, and a patriot wing within the White House. And it's that patriot wing, I think, that has to have as much support as possible to make sure that Trump is able to do his job and fulfill his promises.
The one last thing I'd say about this trip that I think was especially important was, although it was tragic, it was also timely that the Manchester attack took place to underscore and to provide very sharp punctuation to the Trump agenda and the reason why he is the commander-in-chief of this country because it's the safety, security and prosperity of our people that enhances not only our country but the rest of the world!
GUILFOYLE: You're absolutely right. And I'm going to touch a little bit, you know, on the fight against extremism and terrorism, the president very strong on his messaging. I loved it, where he's saying, "Drive them out," and that he was calling them, you know, "evil losers." And people are, like, Oh, (INAUDIBLE) losers. That's not very presidential. That's not a good, you know, term he used.
I get what he's doing. You know, he's trying to demean them and counteract against the propaganda that's out there that recruits these losers that want to have some relevance in life, that they come forward like this and bomb and blow themselves up and murder innocent little girls!
MALKIN: Exactly. I'll tell you what's not presidential, the way that President Obama talked about and handled terrorism in this country.
MALKIN: There were multiple times in the aftermath of jihad attacks when he looked put upon, like -- you know, like, it was just, oh, this again.
MALKIN: And he couldn't call these enemies what they were. And remember, this is a man ideologically who thinks that the problem with radical Islam and Islamic imperialism is that they don't have enough empathy--
MALKIN: -- right, that we don't have enough understanding, that they need more programs and funding--
MALKIN: -- when they've got plenty of all of those things!
GUILFOYLE: Yes, it's unbelievable to me. It's, like, everything's going to be cured if only we can fix climate change so it doesn't upset and disturb ISIS, and get them a job fair, the ISIS job fair, and also throw in a taco truck for them so that everyone can be happy and fed and feel safe space (ph). I can't take it. You know what I'm saying.
GUILFOYLE: All right, Michelle Malkin, ladies and gentlemen, she's the best. Thanks so much for being here tonight.
MALKIN: Thanks, Kimberly.
GUILFOYLE: All right, coming up next right here on "Hannity"--
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BEN CARSON, HUD SECRETARY: I think poverty to a large extent is also a state of mind.
MARK ZUCKERBERG, CEO, FACEBOOK: We should explore ideas like universal basic income to make sure that everyone has a cushion to try new ideas.
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GUILFOYLE: Ben Carson is getting slammed for his comments while Harvard liberals cheered on Mark Zuckerberg for his remarks. Herman Cain is here next with reaction.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are they saying to explain that their -- the first -- the crown prince of the White House, the son-in-law, who sits next to the president every day -- the fact that he's under scrutiny now? How are they explaining that or denying that or what?
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GUILFOYLE: The liberal media is using new government leaks to go after President Trump's son-in-law and key adviser Jared Kushner. Dennis Kucinich, Joe Concha and Doug Schoen join us with reaction.
That and much more as this very busy "Hannity" continues.
GUILFOYLE: Welcome back to "Hannity." Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Dr. Ben Carson is facing intense backlash for this statement he made about poverty. Watch.
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CARSON: I think poverty to a large extent is also a state of mind. You pick somebody who has the right mindset, you can take everything from them and put him on the street. And I guarantee you, in a little while, they'll be right back up there. And you take somebody with the wrong mindset, you can give him everything in the world, they'll work their way down to the bottom.
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GUILFOYLE: Meanwhile, liberals like Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg are saying we should consider basic universal income for Americans. Take a look.
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ZUCKERBERG: Every generation expands its definition of equality. Now it's time for our generation to define a new social contract. We should have a society that measures progress not just by economic metrics like GDP, but by how many of us have a role we find meaningful. We should explore ideas like universal basic income to make sure that everyone has a cushion to try new ideas.
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GUILFOYLE: And joining us now with reaction, FOX News contributor and former presidential candidate Herman Cain. Thanks for being on the program.
HERMAN CAIN, FOX CONTRIBUTOR: Thank you, Kimberly. Happy to be here.
GUILFOYLE: All right! So now, what do you think of Ben Carson's comment on poverty being a state of mind? Is he right?
CAIN: Dr. Carson is exactly right. You see, Kimberly, I have been in poverty and now I'm a CEO. And I like being a CEO a lot better! And the reason I was able to get out of poverty was for two reasons.
Number one, we didn't have the liberal media and the Democrats and the liberals telling us we were poor. Secondly, I was blessed with parents and people around me that gave me that winning state of mind that Dr. Carson talked about. And that's what has allowed me to achieve beyond my own American dreams. So he's exactly right. Now, if I can come in on Mark Zuckerberg--
GUILFOYLE: Yes, please do.
CAIN: Why doesn't he just send all the poor people a check and stop spending my money, OK?
CAIN: Let's -- go ahead, Mark! We're not going to stop you.
Secondly, if you had a guaranteed minimum income for people, what would be that incentive to exceed things based upon their own abilities? That's not the way this society was built, and that's not the way this society should grow going forward. He is dead wrong.
It's easy for a billionaire to say, give everybody a check. But no. I believe in the model that we've use for hundreds of years, and that is you achieve your American dream based upon your own motivation, your own inspiration and your own aspiration, like I and millions of other people did in this country.
GUILFOYLE: It's so true. You know, we have so many people that come here as immigrants and build their families up and are able to try to earn a dollar and to be able to put away money for the future and for education for their children. And I don't understand. His model is just completely off-kilter.
I mean, what is wrong with this guy? He's talking about a completely different country. We pride ourselves here on our entrepreneurial spirit about people wanting to build something themselves versus just getting a handout. I mean, where is he getting this, that this is going to work in this country? That's a failed model that fails in socialist countries!
CAIN: Yes. It has failed in socialist countries. I don't know where he gets this idea. But some people believe it's called rich guilt. All of the people that call my radio show who are from other countries, they applaud and they are thankful for the opportunities they have gotten since they've been in this country. None of the people from other countries call up and say, where's more free stuff?
CAIN: They call up and they are thankful for the opportunity to create the lifestyle that they have. I don't know where Mark is getting it from, but he is dead wrong in terms of his assertions that this generation needs to give away more free stuff. No! You earn your way in America like most of us have.
GUILFOYLE: Absolutely! And earning it feels good, doesn't it?
GUILFOYLE: I mean, that's what you want to do. You want to wake up in the morning and say, how can I make my life better and the lives of those that I care about, my family members? And by the way, be an inspiration to other people, you know, like you have done in your life.
So besides, Mark Zuckerberg, he's in some, well, losing company with Hillary Clinton.
GUILFOYLE: Take a listen to this and I'll get your reaction.
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HILLARY CLINTON, D-FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: By the way, we were furious about the past presidential election of a man whose presidency would eventually end in disgrace with his impeachment for obstruction of justice.
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CLINTON: Some are even denying things we see with our own eyes, like the size of crowds.
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CLINTON: When people in power invent their own facts and attack those who question them, it can mark the beginning of the end of a free society.
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GUILFOYLE: So Hillary Clinton going for the cheap laughs on the laugh track, press the button, cue the left to try to take some cheap shots.
GUILFOYLE: I know! You just can't make it up. So what do you make of this comment? I mean, she's addressing the future, hopefully, you know, leaders of tomorrow.
CAIN: She wasn't talking to leaders of tomorrow. She was talking -- she was talking to socialists and communists of tomorrow!
CAIN: That's why they laughed and applauded when she said what she said.
CAIN: Look, you're talking about making up your own facts, Hillary Clinton has done that her entire public career, period, and has been able to get away with it because of that Clinton machine that many of us know has been there, and it is still there.
Secondly, Hillary Clinton is still looking for relevance, and she is relevant only to those people who blindly follow her in the first place. She's not gaining any new followers based upon that kind of rhetoric.
And then one last thing. President Donald Trump is doing a great job, and they are in denial. Hillary Clinton, all of the people that follow her, they are in denial of what I describe and I have described a couple of times this week on Fox, and that is TDS, Trump derangement syndrome!
So she's going to continue to get people to laugh and applaud--
CAIN: -- at some of her misguided statements. So she's the one that's guilty of making up her own facts and trying to deceive the American people.
GUILFOYLE: You're absolutely right! Somebody call the CDC because that TDS is spreading like wildfire!
GUILFOYLE: And by the way, the mainstream media caught it, too.
GUILFOYLE: All right--
CAIN: That's great.
GUILFOYLE: Always a pleasure to have you with us on the program. Thank you so much.
CAIN: I'm delighted, Kimberly. Thank you.
GUILFOYLE: OK. And coming up next right here on "Hannity"--
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are they saying to that their -- the first -- the crown prince of the White House, the son-in-law who sits next to the president every day, the fact that he's under scrutiny now? How are they explaining that or denying that or what?
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GUILFOYLE: A new leak helps the media take aim at President Trump's son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner. Dennis Kucinich, Joe Concha and Doug Schoen joins us next with reaction.
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JOHN KELLY, SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY: It can happen almost here any time. I was telling Steve on the way in here, if he knew what I know about terrorism, he'd never leave the house.
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GUILFOYLE: DHS chief John Kelly offers that blunt assessment about the threat posed by terrorism. Kris Tanto Paronto (ph) and Steve Hilton (ph) with weigh in.
Stay with us as "Hannity" continues.
GUILFOYLE: Welcome back to "Hannity." I'm Kimberly Guilfoyle, in for Sean, who is off for the Memorial Day holiday.
Damaging government leaks continue to cause headaches for the White House. The president's son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, is the latest target. The mainstream media is nuts (ph) with wall-to-wall coverage over reports that Kushner is under FBI scrutiny in the Russia investigation. Watch this.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am on meds that make me out of it. I apologize for neither looking nor sounding nor being my best. But you know, once in a lifetime, this story. When I got the call about this news, I really I wanted to come in because I think this is important.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It seems to me that the key to understanding Jared Kushner is that, like his father-in-law, he is an incredibly self-interested, greedy, self-serving and kind of amoral figure. He is -- you know, these are really bottom- feeding, sinister figures. And one of the great tricks I think that Jared and Ivanka play on the world is that because they're so elegant looking, because they're so poised, people tend to conflate that with some kind of innate decency. This is a gangster family.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't have enough confidence in Donald Trump to keep his stupid mouth shut and not obstruct justice or tamper with a witness!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- when the witness is his son-in-law.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What are they saying to explain that their -- the first -- the crown prince of the White House, the son-in-law who sits next to the president every day, the fact that he's under scrutiny now? How are they explaining that or denying that or what?
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GUILFOYLE: And earlier today, Bloomberg's Eli Lake put out a new column with the headline, quote, "Trump's allies convicted of high crimes without a trial." Well, that pretty much sums up exactly what we've seen going on in the media.
And joining us now with reaction, former congressman and Fox News contributor Dennis Kucinich, from The Hill, Joe Concha, and Fox News contributor Doug Schoen.
Good evening, gentlemen.
GUILFOYLE: I mean, wow, shock and awe a couple of those clips, right? Doug, can you even explain this?
DOUG SCHOEN, FOX CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, I can.
GUILFOYLE: This (ph) arrangement? (ph)
SCHOEN: Yes. There is a criminal investigation going on. As far as we now know, it's on General Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort. Jared Kushner is apparently a person in interest. We have a long way to go in the investigation. We don't know if there will be any charges against anyone, certainly what General Flynn is alleged to have done could well be criminal. But we are at the start. Nobody has been convicted, nobody should be. And in the issue of fairness, the leaks are very disturbing and disquieting and should be investigated as well.
GUILFOYLE: OK, and Joe, when we look at this, we also need to know the time frame, because if they are saying it's interference with the U.S. presidential election, then conversations that happened prior to the election, that's one section. But any kind of conversation that happened after the election has nothing to do with collusion with Russia about the election.
JOE CONCHA, THE HILL: That makes total sense.
CONCHA: Right. Look, the journalism side is gone in journalism. It's all about business now. It's all about click bait. Let me explain that to the audience. That's like bait and switch in business where you have a headline, in this case, that draws the reader in, and then the content is something completely different.
So in this case, The Washington Post headline is "Jared Kushner now a focus in the Russian investigation." But if you read the story, you've got to go five paragraphs down, and The Post says The Post has not been told that Kushner is a target and the central focus of the investigation, and he has not been accused of any wrongdoing. So it drew me in only to say that he is not the focus when the headline said he's the focus. Click bait.
GUILFOYLE: So Dennis, what do you make of this situation? Really, it got pretty hysterical last night. And even today in terms of his name-calling to the family, they are sinister, they are bottom feeders, all kinds of craziness. How is this advancing in any way American democracy and political discourse?
DENNIS KUCINICH, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: It doesn't, and I don't think it plays very well with the American people. What you see here is the politicization of the FBI with these leaks. And what it's doing is it's tainting any investigation. There is no objectivity here. And it hurts the FBI.
But there is another thing which people in the media ought to pay attention to. Go back to 1966 Supreme Court case, Sheppard versus Maxwell, which showed that prejudicial publicity was used to overturn a conviction, and they saw violations of the First Amendment, of the Sixth Amendment right to a fair trial, and of the 14th Amendment, due process. So there is a legal process that is being usurped here by very, very invective politics.
GUILFOYLE: It's pretty unbelievable. One of his attorneys, Jamie Gorelick, has also released a statement saying that Jared Kushner will cooperate like he has in the past, that they have not been contacted by anyone saying that he is the subject or a target of the investigation, and no evidence thus far of wrongdoing.
SCHOEN: All true and all important to say. And what Dennis Kucinich said is exactly right. We've got to get rid of the politicization of the FBI. But I would underscore we do need to have an investigation of what did or did not happen. And the fact there is no evidence now doesn't mean there won't be evidence of wrongdoing. And I focus on General Flynn, who had unauthorized contact with the Russians, was working for the Turks at a time when he was also the national security designate of the president of United States. There are real issues to investigate, but let's not rush to judgment.
GUILFOYLE: Right. And again, it's so important, Joe, to have the due process and, like Dennis mentioned, to make sure we can have a full and fair and impartial hearing, get to the bottom of this. Of course it's what the American people deserve, but trying to do these red herrings, it makes no sense.
KUCINICH: Kimberly, we have to be aware of the impact of presidential publicity. And for the FBI to participate in these leaks actually would destroy any case they would try to build. So this -- this is really a wrong approach. It's damaging to our constitution. It hurts our country. And the FBI ought to get back to the basic work of doing investigations without trying to convict people through rumors, innuendo, and leaks.
GUILFOYLE: Absolutely because they're not making any forward progress here, Joe, in terms they already had problems under Comey and with the Hillary Clinton investigation. And now this, this is unseemly for the FBI.
CONCHA: And this is being done through unnamed sources, every New York Times and Washington Post report. Now here's the thing about unnamed sources that people at home don't like. They don't know the motives of these sources. They don't know the credibility of these sources. They don't know the access that these sources have to the president's inner circle.
The New York Times is a style guide. It's a rule book that says anonymity should be the last resort. It has become the first resort in journalism in 2017 because it's all about clicks and re-tweets instead of being accurate and being professional and having integrity.
GUILFOYLE: And Doug, you know, this really emphasizes the point what we have seen from the polling and everything, which is the general American public distrusts the media and thinks that they are not being given the truth, that people are hiding behind this anonymity, and it really cheapens the information that's available.
SCHOEN: Two quick points, Kimberly. First, Donald Trump got the biggest amount of applause on the campaign trail when he attacked the media. One other point that I don't think has been made is that Mr. Gianforte, the Congressman-elect in Montana may well have picked up support because he body slammed a British Journalist.
CONCHA: He raised $100,000 as a result of that.
SCHOEN: That's right. And I just think that may well have helped him. And that's very sad that we are in that kind of adversarial situation, very sad indeed.
GUILFOYLE: I think it's an important point, because we saw this unfold last night on the air in terms of election results coming in, people thought maybe he was going to take a hit. It turns out to be quite the opposite at least --
CONCHA: But I love the narrative that Trump somehow made Gianforte do it. Reporters have been attacked for a long time, well before Donald Trump, including by a guy called Alec Baldwin who plays Trump on "Saturday Night Live." He used to beat the crap out of reporters here in New York on a regular basis, and no one talks about it.
GUILFOYLE: It's really too much of a --
KUCINICH: We don't want violence against people in the media, though.
GUILFOYLE: Absolutely we don't.
SCHOEN: Absolutely not. I don't want to be quoted as supporting -- it's just that it doesn't engender ill will the way it probably ought to, in a balanced and fair society.
GUILFOYLE: We can always count of Dennis Kucinich to be the voice of reason and civility. All right, thank you so much, gentlemen. I hope you have a great Memorial Day as well.
Coming up next right here on "Hannity."
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KELLY: It can happen almost here anytime. I was telling Steve on the way in here, if he knew what I know about terrorism, he would never leave the house.
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GUILFOYLE: DHS Secretary John Kelly says that the terror threat is worse than most Americans realize. Kris "Tanto" Paronto and Steve Hilton will weigh in next.
Plus, two new studies show how free speech is under assault on liberal college campuses. Charlie Kirk and Dinesh D'Souza join us later with reaction, that and more straight ahead on "Hannity."
GUILFOYLE: Welcome back to "Hannity." DHS Secretary John Kelly was on "Fox & Friends" earlier today where he gave a sobering assessment of the terror threat Americans face. Take a look.
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KELLY: We've had four major terrorist attacks in the week in four different places, obviously Manchester, Egypt, Philippines, Indonesia, by generally the same groups. It's nonstop. The good news for us in America, we have amazing people protecting us every day. But it can happen almost here anytime. I was telling Steve on the way in here, if he knew what I know about terrorism, he'd never leave the house.
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GUILFOYLE: My goodness. President Trump has made fighting terrorism a key theme during his first foreign trip. So what can we do right here at home and abroad to combat extremism? Joining me now is the host of "The Next Revolution" which launches on FNC on Sunday, June 4th, at 9:00 p.m. eastern, Steve Hilton, and author of the new book, "The Ranger Way, Living the Code On and Off the Battlefield," Kris "Tanto" Paronto. Pleasure to have these two gentlemen here. I feel confident we are going to get to the bottom of it with the two view here. Steve, congrats on the new show. We can't wait for that to get started. But in the meantime, what can we do here at home and abroad to combat extremism?
STEVE HILTON, "THE NEWS REVOLUTION" HOST: I think that Kelly is exactly right. And it's really helpful, I think, to have someone as serious as that in charge of fighting the fight against terror, who takes it seriously, because I think what you have seen over the last few years, and it's not just here in America, but in the U.K. too, there's a lot of talk about fighting terrorism and the people agreeing with how serious it is. But if you look at what's actually been going on, it hasn't been good enough.
Let's just take Manchester. Obviously it's still very fresh and there's a lot of grief and anger and pain. But while we should reserve most of our anger for the militant Islamists who actually did this terrible thing, I think some anger also needs to be reserved for the authorities because actually if you back to this guy, just as with so many of these attacks, it turns out that he was known to the authorities. He's actually complained about to an anti-terror hotline, it turns out, about six years ago. There was a warning after warning. He was traveling around Libya, Syria, he slipped through the nets.
So there is something going wrong with the way we are approaching this. And I think what I'm really pleased to see is when President Trump and Secretary Kelly and the administration really are putting this at the top of the agenda, saying they need more resources to fight this threat, that should be reassuring.
And there was one final thing. Actually, what America did after 9/11 was really important, the way that actually everyone said, look, there's something serious went wrong here. We need to investigate it, review all of our procedures and process it the way we fight terrorism. That hasn't happened in the U.K. And I think that America, therefore, despite these growing threats seems to me to be in a stronger position today, exactly as Secretary Kelly said, than anywhere else in the world despite the rising threat that we face.
GUILFOYLE: All right, well, Kris, it sure seems like President Trump is very aware of this. He's aware of the threat here, he's aware of the threat abroad. He made this a key focal point of his campaign. And it was part of the thing people want to make America safe, national security focus and foreign policy. He emphasized that when he was away on this recent trip, strong messaging, saying "drive them out."
KRIS "TANTO" PARONTO, "THE RANGER WAY" AUTHOR: And that's what you need to do as a leader. You have to show strength. The past eight years, we haven't had that. We were leading from behind. President Trump is putting us forward. We're leading from the front again. And he's putting more focus, he is, on law enforcement. And immediately after the attack in Manchester, he threw the special operations community into work, and the Seals went out and did a raid. Sometimes, you have to do that, an eye for an eye. And I like that he's doing that.
Also, though, we need to, and this goes back on the leaks that we've talked about. The CIA and NSA need to get focus back on fighting terrorism and less on being in the political agendas and political arena. And that's where I see we need to actually concentrate more and actually have more of a focal point. And President Trump can do it. He's got somebody great as a CIA director right now in Mike Pompeo, and that needs to be a focus, where we are not succeeding that. And that is the CIA and NSA are really not doing their jobs, which is combating terrorism more than leaking and being in the political arena. And that's bothering me a little bit.
GUILFOYLE: It's bothering me, too. Steve, when you think about this, the U.K. got upset with us, that they aren't going to share the intelligence because, you know, loose lips sink ships, and we were having a problem over here. They then went ahead and said, OK, we are back on board together. It was a matter of hours, but nevertheless, wow, what bad reputation to have. We see these leaks now affecting our international diplomacy and cooperative efforts to combat extremism.
HILTON: Yes, I think that's right. And I think that it seems to have been resolved, and we have got to move on. I totally agree with what was just said about how we need to get back to the real business of fighting these terror networks.
But I think, the other thing I would say is a real refreshing change in this administration is that you've got a president that has put really good, qualified people in charge and seems to trust in their professionalism. It seems to me they are really working as a team, because he has empowered them to do the right thing. He's not being micromanaged for political ends. He's actually putting good people in charge and letting them get on to the job and seeing his role as president is to give them the support you need and especially to get them the resources that they need. And that's a big change from what we had before.
GUILFOYLE: Certainly. Kris, what else can we do here at home? Nobody likes the feeling of being like a sitting duck and waiting to get picked off.
PARONTO: That's part of terrorism is striking terror in the hearts and minds of yourselves. Take it down to a persona level. Just stay vigilant. Go about your daily activities. Don't worry about -- don't let the terror affect your daily lives. You can't. That's what we're trying to do. But also we have the greatest law enforcement in the world and we have to rely on them. And President Trump backs the law enforcement.
And I agree with Steve. He is saying everything that I would like to say.
GUILFOYLE: He's good.
PARONTO: He is. But law enforcement is out there, and they are the best. And they've got our backs.
GUILFOYLE: And we've got to back them up too. President Trump is prepared to do that. All right, we want to give our relationship with our allies very strong at the U.K. Gentlemen, such a pleasure. Thank you so much. Congrats on the show again, and don't forget to get Kris' book, "The Ranger Way."
Coming up, a shocking new study shows that more millennials in Turkey support free speech then in the U.S. Charlie Kirk and Dinesh D'Souza are here next to react. Stay with us.
GUILFOYLE: Welcome back to "Hannity." A recent study has some surprising findings about young people and free speech. The Varkey Foundation recently polled participants from around the world who were born between 1995 and 2001. And according to the study, quote, "Support for free speech even if offensive to a religion is highest in Turkey, 78 percent." And it goes on, "Support is surprisingly low even in those countries which are historical champions of free speech. France, 50 percent, the U.K. 58 percent, and even the U.S., 62 percent." Also, campus reform is reporting on a new poll that finds one third of millennials say safe spaces are absolutely necessary.
Joining me now with reaction is the founder of executive director of Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk, and filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza. Gentlemen, thanks for being here tonight. Quite a study, Dinesh. How concerning is the lack of support for free speech among American millennials? And do you find this surprising?
DINESH D'SOUZA, FILMMAKER: Well, I think it's very disturbing because the whole purpose of a university is to challenge your assumptions, to turn your world upside down, to take assumptions and turn them into questions. If you go to four years of college and you don't have your basic assumptions challenged, even overturned, you haven't really got a proper liberal arts education.
And so I think it's very pathetic that you've got these young people who feel they need to be sheltered. Sheltered from what? In fact, the only two groups that are really regularly battered on campus are political conservatives and evangelical Christians. Otherwise everybody else has a safe space. It's called the American campus.
GUILFOYLE: You're absolutely right. It's unbelievable to me how this happened and how the whole thing developed. Now, Charlie, safe spaces, what is that? What is wrong with American youth? They are so ill-prepared then for the real world when they go out there to try to get a job, they're not going to get hugs and snacks and whatever. They are going to have to work hard and earn their keep and actually open their minds and listen to other viewpoints.
CHARLIE KIRK, FOUNDER, TURNING POINT USA: Soft.
GUILFOYLE: Soft. Brie cheese soft.
KIRK: Just yesterday, I was speaking to a group of 60 or 70 year olds. I was trying to explain what a safe space was, and they thought I was making it up. A safe space, for people who don't know, it's a physical location on a college campus where college students can seek refuge if they hear ideas that they find threatening to them.
Now, think about that. That this agreement is a form of assault? That you need to actually go find a safe space? And in these safe spaces, they have crayons and Play-Doh and cookies and milk. We're not making this up. And it is soft. And what is the agenda behind this? The liberal academic elites, they want to shelter an entire generation from ever hearing an idea or perspective that might disagree with the leftist worldview. Dinesh hit it out of the park. If there are any point of use that actually did safe spaces, it Christians and conservatives. We're the ones that are under attack on the campus. Dinesh is 100 percent right.
GUILFOYLE: Go ahead, Dinesh.
D'SOUZA: The really powerful people on the college campus are the administration and the faculty. And those people are completely supportive of the leftist ideology. So the threat comes from the powerful people on campus who have the ability to shape your grades, the ability to penalize you, to send your home, to expel you. So it's the conservative and the Christians who are on the defensive. Right after Trump's election, my daughter, who is a senior at an Ivy League college, noticed there was a gala of intolerance that swept across her compass, in a sense almost a witch hunt against any students who might conceivably have voted conservative last year.
GUILFOYLE: Absolutely. You are so right. And the signs to watch for the weekend, all of Dinesh's films for the Memorial Day weekend. Gentlemen, thank you so much.
We are going to have more "Hannity" after the break. Stay with us.
GUILFOYLE: And welcome back to "Hannity." That's unfortunately all the time we have left tonight, but we want to send a special thank you for the brave men and women who fought and died for our freedom as we honor them this Memorial Day weekend. Sean is back on Tuesday and you can catch me on "The Five" at 9:00 p.m. eastern. We thank you so much for joining us. We wish a great night for you and enjoy your weekend.
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