Lewandowski, Goolsbee react to Tom Perez's attacks on GOP

Reaction on 'Hannity' after the DNC chair rants about Republicans during a 'unity tour'


This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," April 19, 2017. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." Michelle Malkin, Jay Sekulow, Corey Lewandowski, Austan Goolsbee, Sara Carter, Herman Cain -- they're all going to join us tonight.

But first, the alt radical left, the destroy Trump propaganda media, Hollywood snowflakes -- they're now joining forces and doing everything they can do to undermine and hurt President Trump and help his opponents. And that's tonight's "Opening Monologue."

All right, all sides of this anti-Trump movement are now coalescing to try and damage the new administration. Now, let's start with the alt-radical left propaganda destroy Trump media. Now, after months and months of endlessly pushing fake, bizarre news conspiracy theories about Trump colluding with Russia, despite no evidence whatsoever that the president did this, well, now the partisan press is launching a new wave of attacks.

Now, take a look at the latest example from "Mr. Thrill Up His Leg," "Mr. Obama Lover" Chris Matthews.


CHRIS MATTHEWS, MSNBC: Bitch, bitch, bitch. I mean, he's supposed to be a positive "make America great" guy, and it's all this whining about the job he took. Hey look, he knew Obama was president, the last president. He knew he was coming in after Obama, who was actually quite successful. Now he blames it all on the conditions of the job.


HANNITY: All right, Matthews, all these other partisan hacks masquerading as journalists, ignoring real facts that President Trump did inherent a massive, huge, colossal mess from Barack Obama both here at home, and of course, abroad. They refuse to report the truth about how he's trying to fix all of this. And of course, then they have the tax day protests, you saw them this past weekend. You have the alt-radical left liberals, they were spewing all kinds of nonsense.

Now, watch Democratic Congresswoman Maxine Waters, unhinged, leading a chant to impeach -- that's right, impeach -- President Trump.


REP. MAXINE WATERS, D-CALIF.: His motives and his actions are contemptible, and I will fight every day until he is impeached! Impeach 45! Impeach 45!

CROWD: Impeach 45!

WATERS: Impeach 45!

CROWD: Impeach 45!

WATERS: Don't forget who he is.


HANNITY: Not even 100 days in.

Then the insanity of the left showed up in Berkeley, California, over the weekend, where a near riot broke out during a tax day protest after violent clashes between left-wing agitators and Trump supporters. Twenty people ended up being arrested there.

And then finally, last night, we saw a massive effort from the left in Georgia's sixth congressional district in their special election. Now, they came together to pump up Jon Ossoff, who doesn't even live in the district. And they still came up short. Now that race is heading for a runoff on June the 20th.

But what's happening is, the alt radical left, in this case they raised $8 million for their chosen candidate. And according to even the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, 95 percent of the money came from outside the state to help a guy who doesn't live in the district.

And on top of that, the Trump-hating Hollywood snowflakes, people like Samuel L. Jackson and Chelsea Handler, they of course, threw their support behind the left-winger Ossoff. And of course, the alt-radical left destroy Trump media, they were heaping mounds of praise on the Democratic candidate. Oh, they're not biased at all. Watch this.


LESTER HOLT, "NBC NIGHTLY NEWS"/NBC, APRIL 18: Tonight, the eyes of the political world are on a congressional district in Georgia where an upstart Democrat is trying to win a special election in what has been a Republican-held district for years.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He's drawn volunteers from all over the country and big-name celebrities. And he's been attacked by name by President Trump.

DAVID MUIR, "WORLD NEWS"/ABC, APRIL 18: Millions of dollars have flooded into the race from around the country to help a little-known Democrat.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As voters here decide tonight, people on the blue team far away from Georgia are praying that this special election north of Atlanta turns into a revenge vote against the president.

DON LEMON, CNN, APRIL 18: So that was Jon Ossoff in a very tight race down in Atlanta. He's projecting that it's going to be a runoff. Am I the only one who said he sounded like Barack Obama? No? Does that sound like Barack Obama to you?


LEMON: So again, I thought were we listening to Jon Ossoff or Barack Obama?


I'm not the only one who thought that, as well.


HANNITY: No, the destroy Trump media, they're not biased at all.

Now, this is only the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the alt-left, the propaganda media and this extreme bias they have.

Now, we have evidence, a new study from the Media Research Center, a whopping 89 percent of coverage during ABC, NBC, CBS's evening newscast has all been negative towards the president, towards President Trump.

Now, what we're seeing playing out now is the alt-radical left taking all of this unhinged hatred to a whole new level, and they're teaming up to attack the president on all fronts.

So tonight, I'm telling you it's only going to get worse, it's only going to get more intense. So Republicans need to do their job and also be ready to fight back. Because you got the alt-left, they cannot stand this president, especially as he checks off his list, continues to fulfill his promises and enact the agenda that he won on.

Now, their opposition will get worse every day. It'll get more intense because they really want him gone. That's how bad it is.

Here with reaction, the host of "Michelle Malkin Investigates" on CRTV, Michelle Malkin. You know, it's very interesting if you put a little historical perspective. Let's just look at recent history. They never vetted Obama's radical extremism and his radical friends. They never told the American people after eight years he doubled the debt, more people out of work in the 1970s (sic), out of the labor force. They never told the American people 13 million more were in -- on food stamps and 8 million more were in poverty.

So they never told the story that Obama failed. They'll say nothing good about the president, and they just team up together. And it's like a circular firing squad, and Trump's in the middle. How does he deal with this?

MICHELLE MALKIN, CONSERVATIVE COMMENTATOR: Yes. It is a Barnum & Bailey circus every single day, Sean. We've got the Hollywood media complex, beclowning (ph) itself time and time again.

And we had eight years of Obama's ideological cancer metastasizing in this country. It's going to take a lot more than 100 days to undo it all. But during that dark period, we had these lapdogs in the press who lay dormant. They were in hibernation until Trump took office. Then all of a sudden, they awoke. The sleeping beasts arose. And they've refashioned themselves these zealous guardians of democracy now. And they think that the longer and louder they bark at Trump and his team, the more credibility they will have.

HANNITY: You see...

MALKIN: In reality...

HANNITY: I want to know if you...

MALKIN: ... of course, they've exposed themselves for the clear partisan shills that they are and always were.

HANNITY: If there was ever any doubt about media bias, that should be a thing of the past for anybody that has any sense of intellectual honesty. To me, with all the noise we have going on and now even the fights breaking out and the media completely co-opted by the left and even colluding with Hillary Clinton's campaign, it all comes down to this for me.

If Trump follows up, makes the country safer, more secure, builds the wall, gets executive orders for vetting, if he lowers the tax rates, creates millions of jobs, increases revenues to the government, make us energy independent, makes better schools by sending education back to the states, he gets reelected. And none of this is going to be mean a thing.

If he breaks away from his agenda, that's where I think he risks losing, or if he's co-opted by the swamp in some way. No evidence of it. I haven't it. He's doing his job. Congress is pathetically slow. They're inefficient, and frankly, they may -- some of them may be even sabotaging the president.

MALKIN: No question about it. I think that you can say without equivocation that you have people within the Republican Party establishment. Who are just as bent on bringing on Trump down as the Hollywood media complex. You're talking about substantive issues, Sean, which is something that the liberal media establishment has a huge allergy to.

And that's why, as we have these assessments now in the weeks that mark his first 100 days, that you'll see a ramp-up of noise. And you're right. You're absolutely right that President Trump has to ignore the noise and to stay on message.

It's interesting, you cited the Media Research Center's new very enlightening study on media bias over the last 100 days. And the most negative bulk of attacks have been focused on the temporary travel ban because it fits into this pat narrative that Trump is a bigot, a xenophobe. He hates immigrants.

And that's why again, when we talk about liberal bias, it's not just liberal bias, it's confirmation bias. These people have a warped sense of reality. They pick and choose what they deliver as, quote, unquote, "news" to the public. And they don't want to talk about all the ways in which the refugee resettlement racket has endangered people, all the ways in which open borders have endangered people. And of course, they will never put as headline news...


MALKIN: ... all the incredibly significant ways in which this administration is making America safer.

HANNITY: You know...

MALKIN: What do they want to do? They want to make America Obama again! They want to make America Clinton again! And that's all they can talk about.

HANNITY: We had an election. And with all their collusion, they still couldn't help Hillary get over the finish line.

All right, keep to the agenda. That's the message that I would send to anybody in Washington, and that includes lazy Republicans on vacation right now.

Thank you, Michelle. Appreciate it.

When we come back on this busy news night tonight here on "Hannity"...


TOM PEREZ, DNC CHAIRMAN: It's stupid! They call their budget a "skinny" budget! I call their budget a (EXPLETIVE DELETED budget because it doesn't treat people well!



HANNITY: All right, that's the new DNC chairman, Tom Perez, once again spewing nasty, vicious, vile rhetoric about Republicans. We'll check in with Austan Goolsbee and Corey Lewandowsky. They'll respond.

And also later tonight...


MIKE PENCE, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: The United States of America will always seek peace, but under President Trump, the shield stands guard and the sword stands ready.


HANNITY: All right, very strong words from the vice president, Mike Pence, aboard the USS Ronald Reagan. Later tonight, we'll get reaction, Sara Carter, Ric Grenell, how do we deal with the Korean peninsula and the unfolding madness in the Middle East, as well, and Iran straight ahead.


HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." The DNC chairman, Tom Perez -- he continues to spew his hateful, his nasty rhetoric about Republicans. Now, watch what he said last night about the GOP budget while on the DNC's so- called unity tour. Watch this.


PEREZ: It's stupid! They call their budget a "skinny" budget! I call their budget a (EXPLETIVE DELETED budget because it doesn't treat people well!



HANNITY: And on Monday night's leg of the tour, Perez echoed his familiar profanity-laced rant against the president and Republicans. What a nice guy. Take a look.


PEREZ: He wants to brand everything. You know, you can go to the store and find Trump steaks, you know, Trump steak knives, Trump ties, Trump suits, you know, the Trump hotel.

But he didn't want the Affordable Care Act branded after him. I don't know what to call it, Trump care? Ryan care? I'll tell you what I call it, I don't care, because they -- those Republican leaders and President Trump don't give a (EXPLETIVE DELETED) about the people they were trying to hurt.


PEREZ: That's what I say.


HANNITY: All right, Here with reaction, we have former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowsky, former Obama economic adviser Austan Goolsbee. All right, Austan, You're a fair guy. This is just the facts here, the facts are simple. Number one, the average cost -- the average American family didn't save $2,500 per year as promised, but they pay $5,400 more per year since "Obama care" took place. Millions lost their plans. Millions lost their doctors.

So all right, Trump doesn't support a failed system and in states like Arizona this year alone it's going up another hundred 17 percent! So you know, what is he defending her?

AUSTAN GOOLSBEE, FORMER OBAMA ECONOMIC ADVISER: Well, wait a minute. You just changed the whole subject. I mean, he's not wrong about the Republican budget. We can go through that, if you want. It is a kind of massacre budget that contradicts a whole bunch of the things that Trump promised in the campaign. On health care...

HANNITY: Is he going to -- is he going to double -- is he going to double the debt like your buddy Obama did? and Obama said $9 trillion in debt...

GOOLSBEE: Oh, he's going to more than double the debt.

HANNITY: ... was irresponsible and unpatriotic and -- and then he doubled it, took more debt than every president before him combined.

GOOLSBEE: As you know -- as you know, those big deficits were when we were in the worst recession of our lifetimes, which he inherited. And after the recession ended, he cuts...

HANNITY: So it's Bush's fault...


GOOLSBEE: ... do that, Sean, to answer your question. That's exactly what his budget...


HANNITY: All right, Corey, here's the thing. These promises were made about "Obama care." The promises were never delivered. Obama took on more debt than 43 presidents before him combined. He said that $9 trillion in debt was irresponsible and unpatriotic. I don't know how you can do much worse than that.

COREY LEWANDOWSKY, FMR. TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Well, Sean, you can't. And what we know is that, you know, time and time and time again, the previous administration lied to the American people. You can't keep your doctor. You can't keep your plan. We're now a country that has $20 trillion of debt. We bring in $4 trillion a year. And to put that in perspective, if we never spent another dime, just brought on the money, it would take us five years of income just to get whole again. It's unsustainable. It's all because the previous administration's priorities were wrong.

And what we've seen in this administration's priorities are increasing money to the military so that our men and women who put on the uniform have the best resources necessary to protect us against all enemies, both foreign and domestic. That's the priority of this administration, making sure that the people who are protecting us have the tools necessary. That is a complete dichotomy from what the previous administration was.

HANNITY: All right, so here's a very simple question, Austan. And I know you can do this math. You don't need an abacus. You don't even need the calculator on your iPhone. You can do this in your head.

So when Obama was a candidate, he said $9 trillion in debt, that's irresponsible. That's unpatriotic. And he leaves and it's $20 trillion. And he accumulates more debt than any other president before him combined.

Now, let me concede that maybe the first two years, some of that debt was because of the conditions that he incurred.

GOOLSBEE: OK. That's a fair...

HANNITY: At what point do you say -- at what point do you say he's responsible for the other $8 trillion in debt? Good question.

GOOLSBEE: At what point? I mean, you're asking...


HANNITY: He had eight years to fix the economy. We have millions more in poverty, millions more on food stamps, the lowest labor participation rate ever.

GOOLSBEE: OK. I got you. So the only reason I'm puzzled is, are you giving him no credit for cutting the deficit more than in half by the end of his first term?

HANNITY: Well, now we're playing word games because cutting --


GOOLSBEE: I'm just looking at the numbers. The debt...

HANNITY: All right, let me give you the numbers.

GOOLSBEE: ... is the added up deficits.

HANNITY: In the eight years of Obama, he accumulated more debt than every president before him combined.

GOOLSBEE: OK, and the...

HANNITY: You want to say, Oh, but he cut the deficit in half.

GOOLSBEE: We've had this conversation before, Sean. You're mixing up inflation and you know, the fact that...

HANNITY: Oh, inflation.

GOOLSBEE: ... when my grandpa went to the movies, it cost a nickel. You can't compare debt from 1776. So what you...

HANNITY: I'm just comparing it from 2007.

GOOLSBEE: The deficits have been cut in half. Donald Trump promised to eliminate the debt.


HANNITY: But he still doubled the debt!

GOOLSBEE: It's a complete fantasy.

HANNITY: He still doubled the debt! Wait a minute! And Corey...


GOOLSBEE: He doubled the debt because we had the biggest recession of our lifetimes.

HANNITY: Lend him your iPhone, Corey.

GOOLSBEE: That makes (INAUDIBLE) yearly deficit bigger (ph).


HANNITY: If we go from $9 trillion to $20, isn't that doubling the debt? That's not cutting the debt -- deficit in half.

LEWANDOWSKY: Any way you slice it -- look, this is the great part about the liberals. They always like to blame Bush for everything that went wrong in the Obama administration. The fact is we have $20 trillion in debt. That was not the number when George W. Bush left office, it was $9 trillion. Again, I went to a public school. I'm not great at math. $20 trillion is greater than $9 trillion. There's no reduction there. There's an $11 trillion increased...


GOOLSBEE: Those aren't the same thing!

LEWANDOWSKY: Look, it's $20 trillion in debt!


GOOLSBEE: Debt and deficits are not the same thing!

HANNITY: I think I'm going to go get a drink as soon as the show's done. Thank you for being here.

LEWANDOWSKY: $20 trillion.

HANNITY: All right, $20 trillion. All right.

Up next tonight on this busy news night here on "Hannity"...


PENCE: The United States of America will always seek peace, but under President Trump, the shield stands guard and the sword stands ready.


HANNITY: Vice President Mike Pence aboard the USS Ronald Reagan saying that America always wants peace, but the Trump administration will also be ready to act. Sara Carter, Ric Grenell join us next with reaction.

And also later tonight...


JOHN KELLY, DHS SECRETARY: If lawmakers do not like the laws that we enforce, that we are charged to enforce, that we are sworn to enforce, then they should have the courage and the skill to change those laws.


HANNITY: Homeland Security Secretary Kelly issuing that very strong rebuke to critics of the department that he leads. Lisa Boothe, Jay Sekulow respond. And later, Herman Cain is here with much more as we continue.




PENCE: The United States of America will always seek peace, but under President Trump, the shield stands guard and the sword stands ready. Rest assured, under President Trump's leadership, the United States will continue to protect our people and our allies and to strengthen the bonds between us today, tomorrow and every day that follows.


HANNITY: That was Vice President Mike Pence aboard the USS Ronald Reagan reassuring America's allies. Now, tonight, the Korean peninsula is not the only region in the world that's experiencing heightened tensions. Now, the Trump administration is also addressing many difficult situations in the Middle East. And now the president has ordered a review of the Iranian nuclear deal. Now, starting tomorrow, I will be reporting from the region. I'll be in Israel, where we will cover the very latest.

Joining is now, former spokesman for the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. Ric Grenell, and from Circa News, their senior foreign national intelligence correspondent Sara Carter.

Sara, let me start with you. The one thing is we look at the Korean peninsula, and obviously, the proximity when you have -- to Japan and to China and to South Korea and when the vice president is stating that this containment strategy is no longer going to exist. We know they have nukes. We know they want ICBMs.

How do you potentially stop somebody from getting the ICBMs, knowing they have the nukes and they may use them?

SARA CARTER, CIRCANEWS.COM: Well, this is why it's such a complex issue for President Trump. And Vice President Pence delivered a very direct and decisive message to North Korea.

And I think what we need to look at, Sean, is that they've had these capabilities for a long time. And the U.S. is out of patience with them. And they are continuously threatening the U.S. and our allies. I mean, they tried to proliferate their nuclear capabilities to Syria in 2007. We know that China and (ph) give them at least three fourths, according to U.S. Intelligence, of their economy is supported by China. And I think this is why...


CARTER: ... President Trump is reaching out to China and saying, Look, you want us to work with you, and if you want to work with us, you need to put pressure on North Korea. You need to do something, or we're going to do something about that. And I really think...

HANNITY: Sara, it seems like...

CARTER: ... that there's nothing else they could do.

HANNITY: And Sara, it seems like the president's bearing some fruit here. Now, I know he did say during the campaign that he would label them a currency manipulator. But the currency issues have shifted since he became president. That's issue one.

Number two, they put 150,000 troops on the border. That shows a sign of strength. Number three, they sent coal shipments from North Korea back to North Korea that were headed to China, and now they're importing American coal.

The third thing is they've said publicly that they may themselves through their own newspaper, state-run newspaper, they may take out North Korea's sites, and they're willing to open new trade negotiations with America.

That seems to be bearing a lot of fruit right now and a potential brand-new alliance that nobody anticipated.

CARTER: Yes, absolutely, Sean. And I think that this is something that President Trump can work on. I mean, the Chinese are smart. They are not stupid. And they understand that Kim Jong-un is a threat to them as well. So they are going to play this very safe right now. They're going to look at their options here. They're chess players. This is how the Chinese operate. And they're going to see what is going to be best for China. How do we make this relationship work, how do we continue to put pressure on North Korea and get what we need from the United States? Because, remember, China needs us too.

So this is a very, very complicated issue, but it's one that I think President Trump is playing very well right now. And that's why we're going to wait and see what the response from North Korea will be. Kim Jong-un is out of options. He really is. He can continue to make these threats, But we know for a fact right now his missile tests have been failures, and so he knows he's cornered. What he decides to do next will be up to him, but I think China is going to play a huge role in that.

HANNITY: Ric, let's look at these emerging new alliances. Number one, it looks like we had a real breakthrough with China when the president of China met at Mar-a-Lago with the president. But similarly, this president has already met with the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, the prime minister of Israel, who I will be seeing tomorrow. He's met with President General el-Sisi of Egypt and King Abdullah of Jordan. And it seems those five countries together, including us, the Saudi's, the Israelis, the Jordanians, the Egyptians, and the United States, that there is an opportunity that may exist now that never existed before. Want do you make of the changing alliances?

RIC GRENELL, FORMER SPOKESMAN FOR U.S. AMBASSADOR TO U.N.: One thing as a diplomat I can tell you, the increased dramatic diplomatic activity between President Trump and Vice President Pence has been enormous, backed up by the fact that there is a credible threat of military action behind that diplomacy. Diplomats succeed when they have behind them a credible threat of military action. That did not exist in the Obama administration. It's no wonder our diplomacy failed.

One thing that we can see this increased activity has already benefited us. You suggested and showed us how the Chinese went back and immediately put 150,000, possibly 175,000 troops on the border. The North Koreans see that. Now we see Vice President Pence immediately go to the region. He's meeting with the Japanese, the South Koreans, the Australians, and others. I can tell you that diplomats love this. They see a plan, they see a credible threat of military action, and what they are saying right now is the United States is a leader.

HANNITY: I was going to say, it seems like this is leading from front, this is not leading from behind. This is a big difference. I've got to imagine if America can create the alliance with the Jordanians, the Egyptians, the Saudi's, and the Israelis, that would be a dramatic shift and create more potential to prevent Iranian hegemony in that region. If we get the Chinese working with us on the North Korean problem, that helps Seoul, that helps South Korea, that helps the Japanese and American relations with the Chinese, right?

GRENELL: There's no question. Our allies are dying to see an action plan. They are hungry for U.S. leadership, and that's what they're getting. Trump is not getting enough credit for the diplomatic side. Everyone is focusing on the military action that has taken place. But his increased diplomacy is amazing and that's what should be applauded.

HANNITY: Yes. And by the way, that's the art of the deal, Sara. We will give you the last word.

CARTER: Yes. And I think that Iran is getting this message loud and clear, Sean. This is something that we know they have violated the sanctions. Trump is sending a message to them as well with the review of these sanctions. And I think the rest of the world is patiently watching to see what their next move is going to be.

HANNITY: All right, guys, we will be watching closely, thank you both. We'll be in Israel tomorrow. And up next right tonight on HANNITY.


KELLY: If lawmakers do not like the laws that we enforce, that we are charged to enforce, that we are sworn to enforce, then they should have the courage and the skill to change those laws.


HANNITY: Secretary Kelly with some strong words for the critics of the DHS. Jay Sekulow and Lisa Boothe will join us with reaction. And also later tonight.


PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: We're also working with Congress on tax reform and simplification. And we are on time if we get that health care approval. So press every one of your congressman, press everybody, because we want to get that approval.


HANNITY: The president is not slowing down. He's working hard to keep his promises to youth, the American people. Now it's time, as I said last night, Republican lawmakers get back to work and get your job done. We'll get reaction from Herman Cain and much more on this busy news night.


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." So yesterday Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly had some very strong words for critics of his department. Take a look.


KELLY: If lawmakers do not like the laws that we enforce, that we are charged to enforce, that we are sworn to enforce, then they should have the courage and the skill to change those laws. Otherwise they should shut up and support the men and women on the front lines.


HANNITY: Good for him. Joining us now with reaction, Fox News contributor Lisa Boothe, from the American Center for Law and Justice Jay Sekulow. Jay, for all these years, we didn't enforce the law of the land. Why do I believe that if either Lisa or you, if you were aiding and abetting law breaking, you might get in trouble? All these years the president was aiding and abetting law breaking, meaning President Obama. How come there's no consequences in that case?

JAY SEKULOW, AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE: You're absolutely correct that the laws were on the books. It's President Obama using what he called his discretion in telling the Justice Department to use prosecutorial discretion, decided not to prosecute and not to go after illegal immigration that was resulting in activity. He talked about how high his deportation rates were, but the fact is, and this is very clear, that the number of violent actions done by those who were illegally in the United States was on an increase, and we had horrible examples of it. I don't have to reverse those terrible stories about parents losing kids in this kind of violence.

So now you've got the head of homeland security saying, you know what, here's the law. And guess what? There is literally a new sheriff in town and we're going to enforce that law. And if some of the left are complaining about the law, you can change it, but you've got to do that through the process. You don't get to change it on your own. So he's going to enforce the law and I think that's a good move for the country.

HANNITY: Lisa, you look for the numbers, they speak for themselves, 6y percent reduction of illegal immigration just be enforcing the law, not even building the wall at this particular point, which would probably bring it down to zero, right?

LISA BOOTHE, COLUMNIST, WASHINGTON EXAMINER: And a 17 year drop, too. And Sean, remember that leading up to the election in October we saw numbers that mirrored that one summer in 2014 where we saw that huge surge of illegality on the border. And I wonder why? Because there is a new sheriff in town, and it's not just the enforcement. It's also the rhetoric the president chooses to use because illegal immigrants are second guessing the idea of trying to cross the border when they know that our laws are actually going to be enforced.

And I absolutely love that statement, Sean, from Secretary Kelly, the shot across the bow to Congress who are complaining about the administration simply enforcing the laws. And, look, Democrats had their chance, they had ample opportunity when they controlled both bodies of Congress and Obama in the White House, and they failed to do it because they didn't care enough to pass immigration reform.

HANNITY: Jay, let me ask this, because in the 2006 bill was supposed to fund 700 miles of fencing. There were reports last week that as Republicans now move into the budget phase if they can ever get the health care bill repealed and replaced, which I think is going to happen. The Freedom Caucus says they think they got a deal. OK, so can they still continue to deny funds? Do you think the Republicans, as has been reported, would die the president of the on building the wall with it being one of his prime promises to the American people?

SEKULOW: I think that would be entering into a suicide pact, frankly. The idea that president ran on securing our borders, which, I think everybody would have to acknowledge that we need security on our borders. Just look at the world we live in.

And then for the Republicans in Congress to say we're not going to give you those funds, which have been allocated since 2006, and we're not going to do that, not only does that cut against the president has strongly said, but I will tell you this -- challenging this president is probably not a great idea for the Republicans right now. I think what the president has shown by the confirmation of Judge Gorsuch, but the fact that, as you just mentioned, health care is not off the table and in fact a deal may be struck in the next week or 10 days, don't underestimate the power of the presidency and the power of this president to put forward his agenda. So I believe that leadership has to move, leadership has to move.

HANNITY: Leadership has to move, and they have been very inefficient and I think ineffective in terms of advancing the simple bill of repealing and replacing Obamacare. And everything after that is predicated on the $1 trillion savings for the president's economic plan. Lisa?

SEKULOW: Exactly. It has to be done.

BOOTHE: And Sean, I think a lot of politicians continue to underestimate the American people's desire for law enforcement and desire to get this problem under control. President Trump presented himself as the law enforcement candidate and that's precisely what the American people wanted. They wanted to get a handle on this.

And Sean, you've mentioned the 2006 secure fence act. The irony of it is that many of the same Democrats that are decrying the president's action on immigration are the individuals who wrote it and made that law. Senator Feinstein had talked about the need to secure our border and the fact that Democrats are solidly behind border enforcement. So I really do think there's a danger for Democrats there.

HANNITY: It's all politics, Jay's right.

BOOTHE: Yes, all politics, absolutely.

HANNITY: All right, guys, good to see you both, thank you as always.

And up next tonight right here on "Hannity."


TRUMP: We're also working with Congress on tax reform and simplification. And we are on time if we get that health care approval. So press every one of your congressmen, press everybody, because we want to get that approval.


HANNITY: All right, time to get Congress to get moving. President Trump vowing to work on that bill to repeal and replace Obamacare. When are they going to get their act together? Anyway, we will check in with Herman Cain on that and much more on this busy news night, straight ahead.



TRUMP: We are also working with Congress on tax reform and simplification, and we're on time if we get that health care approval. So press every one of your congressmen. Press everybody, because we want to get that approval. And it just makes the text reform easier and it makes it better.

We'll be making big investments in rebuilding our military and repairing our badly depleted infrastructure. That will happen soon also. Infrastructure, big infrastructure bill, probably use it with something else that's a little bit harder to get approved in order to get that approved, but infrastructure is coming and it's coming fast.


HANNITY: That was President Trump ensuring you, the American people, that he intends to keep his promises on tax reform, health care, infrastructure. And now it's time for Republicans to get their act together. Here with reaction, Fox News contributor, former presidential candidate, Herman Cain. Herman, how many companies we you the CEO of in the course of your career?

HERMAN CAIN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Probably about four or five, something like that. I lost count.


HANNITY: OK, Godfather's Pizza, 999, Coca-Cola, some of the biggest corporations in America you ran. Here's my frustration, and maybe you can help me, maybe I'm missing something. From the days I was a paperboy, dishwasher, cook, busboy, waiter, bartender, house painter, paper hanger, tile layer, house framer, and roofer, I always had to work with a sense of urgency. The light goes on on radio, I've got to get to work. It goes on on TV, time to get to work.

Why am I so frustrated that after eight years repeal, replace, repeal, replace -- it's 100 days and they cannot get their act together? There's no leadership, there is no consensus, there's no urgency to get the job done so we can then get to the economy. I'm so beyond frustrated I can't even express it properly.

CAIN: Let me help you, my son. Don't be so frustrated. Pack your patience.


CAIN: And here's why. Because we have been frustrated for eight years, we want it to happen now. But the reality of getting something through Congress, getting all of the factions together especially relevant to repeal and replace will take a little longer than we thought.

Now, here's the good news. President Trump is learning from this experience and he's listening. So he and his secretary of the treasury have already said August was too aggressive in terms of a timeframe for tax cuts and tax reform. They're going to let that play out probably until the end of the year or before. So the reason that you are so frustrated is the same reason a lot of people are frustrated, is for eight years nothing happened. You want to happen now. Pack your patience, Sean. It's coming.

HANNITY: Maybe it's not the way I roll. Let me explain. If, for example, for eight years you say repeal and replace, and then you get the presidency after you wanted the House and Senate, you got that. And then they don't work on the bill, they don't build consensus, nobody sees the bill ahead of time. And then they release the bill and everybody is fighting publicly about the bill because they didn't work on it together behind the scenes, that is inefficient, bordering on incompetent, and, to me, inexcusable considering this was one of their main promises.

Now, I think, Herman, maybe I'm really overstating my abilities in life that I think I could have worked a lot faster. And the only reason I think we've got consensus now is because the Freedom Caucus and the Tuesday Group and these moderate groups did it on their own. There seem to be no leadership in this effort, none.

CAIN: Sean, here again, you are very skilled, but here's what I know that isn't making the nightly news or some of the news programs. I have talked directly with a member of the Freedom Caucus who says that the factions are closer now than way before they tried to meet this arbitrary deadline.

HANNITY: I've been talking to them every day. Since the bill died I've talked to them.

CAIN: Sean, I am confident that they are going to have a bill. So what I'm saying is I understand your frustration.

HANNITY: You're telling me to calm down.


CAIN: Calm down and pack your patience, as I say. But I am convinced, I'm convinced that before the end of the year we are going to have health care legislation coming out of the House and we are going to have tax cuts and tax reform legislation coming out of the House. Here's the thing that a lot of people are missing. President Trump is learning on the job, and he's learning quickly.

HANNITY: It's not Trump's problem. Trump's doing his job.

CAIN: No, no, no, no. Sean, Sean, Sean, Sean, work with me here, work with me. He is listening and realizing that when you are trying to move legislation to the House it's like herding 435 cats. That's what this is problem.

HANNITY: I get it. But my frustration, Herman, they should have had a plan ready. They should have moved faster. Listen, if I'm working at Godfather's Pizza and I'll say, Herman, I'll get the pizza cooked in 89 days because I'm making the perfect pizza, you're going to give me a swift kick it that you-know-what and tell me to get moving or throw me out and fire me. Anyway, they can move faster than this. They're not working hard enough.

CAIN: I would simply fire you, but we can't fire them except for every two years.

HANNITY: They just took a two-week vacation. Who gets two weeks vacation for Easter?

CAIN: Pack your patience, my son, work with me here. OK, work with me.


HANNITY: I'm trying. I'm trying. In through the nose, out through the mouth. I'm going to give it my best shot. All right, Herman, love you, thank you, my friend.

And up the next we need your help, a very important "Question of the Day," and some of the hate HANNITY hotline. Some of it has been awful lately. That's next.


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." Time for our "Question of the Day." So do you think the DNC chairman, Tom Perez, should apologize to Republicans for his vicious, vile, nasty remarks? We want to hear from you. Go to, @SeanHannity on Twitter, let us know what you think.

By the way, time to play some of the messages, some not so nice you left for me on the Hannity hotline.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello, Mr. Hannity, big fan of yours. I watch you as much as I can. I listen to you on the radio as much as I can. I've been watching you for a long time. I think you need to get rid of the black suit. I'm getting kind of tired of it. I think you need to be wearing some tan with some light blue shirts, or at least a grey suit.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You've been a great job leading the way. Stay on them, keep them with their promises, and help get Congress to do something because they're doing nothing worthwhile at the moment.


HANNITY: I'm promising. It's not black, number one. It's blue. Anyway, I guess I can't do anything right in terms of looks, but I don't pay that much attention to it to be honest. I have jeans on.

Have something you want to say, nice, mean, doesn't matter, call the number on your screen right there, 877-225-8587.

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