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Rep. DeSantis: Susan Rice could face a 'world of trouble'

The Florida Republican says it's 'not really plausible' that Rice would need to unmask the names of Trump associates

 

This is a rush transcript from "Your World," April 4, 2017. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

NEIL CAVUTO, HOST: To Florida Republican Congressman Ron DeSantis, who says that Susan Rice should face a criminal investigation over this.

Congressman, very good to have you.

Her story does seem to be changing a little bit, and most people do not seemed focused on that, as much as the fact that she was just doing her job and part of that job was to investigate the sources of all of this Russian contact stuff. I'm paraphrasing here, but to get to the point, is she making a point or burying herself in a deep ditch?

REP. RON DESANTIS, R-FLORIDA: Yes, I think I she dug a hole for herself and I think she kind of kept digging today.

As she point out, two weeks ago, she said, I have never heard of such a thing.

CAVUTO: Yes.

DESANTIS: Now she's acknowledging that unmasking was done.

She is acknowledging leaking was done. She is just claiming she never did that for political purposes. Of course, what is done for political purpose is somewhat in the eye of the beholder.

But here's the thing. Susan Rice doesn't conduct the investigation into Russia. She's not a part of any agency. She's an adviser to the president and the White House. So, if somebody like Jim Comey needed to unmask people because it helped with any counterintelligence investigation, or someone at the NSA or somebody at CIA, that may be on its face plausible.

It's not really plausible that Susan Rice needed this because she was investigating something going on. And so when you see things that have gone wrong in the Obama administration, it seems like Susan Rice is always right there.

And so when the news broke yesterday, I wasn't surprised to see her at the center of this. And I think this is just the beginning of this. I think she needs to come in front of the Congress and the Intelligence Committees.

And then I think the FBI, clearly, they need to be investigating the leaks, because those are criminal offenses. So then take a step back from the leaks. Where did that information come from? And I think if they can establish a connection between the unmasking that Rice may have been involved with and then the information that was leaked, I think she's going to be in a world of trouble.

CAVUTO: You know, we already know that she has -- in the interview with Andrea Mitchell today, she was very quick to distinguish for political purposes, so that leaves a wide swathe of area to give her cover.

And some intelligence folks have said she can make the claim, and it would be hard to prove otherwise. You think that, given what she has said in the past about Benghazi, that it was a response to a YouTube video, that there's enough room to at least question her?

DESANTIS: Oh, without question.

I mean, look, if the information she was getting by unmasking was the same information that ended up being leaked to The New York Times, The Washington Post for these kinds of stories designed to kneecap the Trump administration, which would say, well, sources suggest there may have been contact, really didn't amount to much, but it gave the media a lot of grist for the mill, those leaks were designed with a political purpose in mind.

There was no other reason to do it, other than to attack the administration. And so I think if there's a connection with the administration she got and the information that was put out, she probably personally wouldn't leak it.

There's other people that are involved. But this is very, very fishy. And I think we are going to end up getting to the bottom of it. But, clearly, her interview today, that didn't even come close to answering the questions.

CAVUTO: Congressman, thank you very, very much. We will watch it closely. All right.

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