Hundreds arrested in illegal immigration raids across 11 states

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," February 13, 2017. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: I'm Greg Gutfeld with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Bob Beckel, Eric Bolling, and she does pilates on a Post-it, Dana Perino, "The Five."

The majority of people arrested in last week's immigration raids were criminals. In six counties of southland California, of 160 arrested, 150 had committed crimes including violent assault and child sex offenses. Let's now go to our president on his tough immigration stance:


FORMER PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: We are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States but those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law.

We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked.


GUTFELD: Oops. Sorry about that. Let's try this again -- our president on the recent immigration raids:


FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: We will try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal aliens who are arrested for crimes to better identify illegal aliens in the workplace.

We are a nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of laws.


GUTFELD: Dang, my fault. All right, third time's a charm Mr. President:


PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: On the home front, we have to create borders. We have to let people that can love our country in and I want to do that, but we cannot let the wrong people in and I will not allow that to happen during this administration. And people, citizens of our country, want that, and that's our attitude too.


GUTFELD: Wow. Funny how all of these chaps sound exactly alike, yet the media pretends otherwise, depicting these recent raids as unique only to President Trump. But they aren't. And they also depict these raids as attacks on all innocent immigrants, which they aren't. Ninety-five percent were male, mostly criminal, from a dozen countries. These were not 6-year-old girls clutching teddy bears.

But it raises this question: What were these people doing before they were arrested? Are these the folks that liberal lawmakers try to protect in sanctuary cities? If not, why get so upset when they're caught? What B.S. When Clinton or Obama did it, oh, it's fine, but under Trump, it's evil.

But it's not. Security for all is a moral virtue that requires sensible measures. It's no injustice to target fugitive criminals. It is officials simply doing their jobs. If the left doesn't want ICE doing this, then what do they want? Are we allowed to remove anyone or should we just invite the world to empty their jails into the U.S.?

If the left had their way, the whole country would be a halfway house for the planet's felons and orange would be the new red, white, and blue.

So Dana, 15 out of 16 captured have records of some kind. It's not perfect but you know what when you're making an omelet, what do they say?

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: You've got to break eggs?

GUTFELD: Yes, you got to break some eggs.

PERINO: Got to break some eggs, OK. Yes, these raids aren't new as you pointed out.

GUTFELD: They're not new.

PERINO: Bu when -- it is -- I remember when President Bush had ICE do operations the press was tough, and especially I remember one sort of a meatpacking plant situation in the Midwest, and then you had stories about children who weren't picked up from daycare and they were left --


PERINO: This actually seemed to be very targeted at the criminals, but the Republicans seem to always get a tougher stance in the press than liberals.


PERINO: So when President Obama did it, it was like wow! He is the law & order president. Isn't he amazing? And if it's a Republican, then they're evil.

GUTFELD: Yes. I think the real scam here is portraying it as unique.
That's the thing that drives me crazy. We have selective amnesia. We don't realize it happened before.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: You know why? Because we don't see it on the news.


BOLLING: And if you look back and I think it was January 2016 political article talking about the rounding up of families, not just criminal aliens. Families were being rounded up under President Obama but you never saw that. You saw it in "Politico" but you didn't it on mainstream media and of course, you know, a couple did --

PERINO: And you didn't see elected officials on the left complaining about it like you do now.

BOLLING: Complaining, yes, there is no outrage. There's no outrage against President Obama's deportation policies. And you certainly don't hear that and you didn't hear it that's why you don't hear. You read it but you didn't hear it. But now, God forbid, Donald Trump has a family deported? It will be like wall-to-wall on every single network across including the 6:00 p.m. news on all the broadcast networks.

GUTFELD: Yes, it's true. Kimberly, if they could find out one -- I mean there are people out there that are weeping. They go to that but they don't show the crimes committed or the injustices portrayed or performed by the illegal immigrants.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: No, absolutely not. And look, it's just that -- they wanted it, like these emotional liberal blinders on and if President Obama said it, it's like raining from heaven, glorious words of wisdom. But if President Trump says it, oh, it must be mean- spirited, must be highly illegal, and must be something that we protest and put our hats on about.

But if you look at this, here in particular, 75 percent had prior felony convictions. Bye! Who's trying to give a free pass to the criminals? Do you want them to re-offend, God forbid, to someone you know? A family member or someone you don't even know. No. They need to go. And I've dealt with these people over and over again.

Instead of having a nice case file like this, it was like this and it was from people that refuse to give you their true name, they're being protected by sanctuary cities, they were criminal recidivists that couldn't wait to re-ascend again. These people are supposed to be deported permanently. Stay out. We do not have an obligation to make public safety in this country less safe for them.

BOLLING: I want to bring Bob in. So, here it is. I found the article. It's January 4th, 2016. Here's the headline. "Obama administration kicks off family deportation raids." Now, did you know about that?


BOLLING: Did we hear about that anywhere?


PERINO: Where was this Bolling?

BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Well if you listen around this table when I was here before --

GUIFOYLE: -- was on it.

BECKEL: -- you used to hear that there was no deportation under Barrack Obama. He was the weakest deport -- you were the one -- the leaders of that, but in fact, the largest number of criminals arrested in one week today, 2,000 under the Obama administration. This was an Obama administration initiative. This Trump had nothing to do with this. Obama had gotten rid of more criminals in a shorter period of time than anybody else has and yet you said, oh, he's --

BOLLING: Can I just clarify what I did say and I'll stand by this. Now, President Obama's deportation numbers were different from every other president's deportation numbers. If someone was caught at the border under President Obama only and told to go back, we caught you, you're on American land. Go back and go home. That was counted as a deportation only under Obama, under no one else.

BECKEL: No, that's not right.

BOLLING: Well, it is right but OK.

BECKEL: But all I'm saying is that you'll probably own up to the fact this guy was a deportation president.

BOLLING: Well, he stopped people at the border.

GUIFOYLE: You have a problem with it? I want to know your opinion on it.
Were you happy with what president Obama was doing and equally to measure that you're happy with President Trump.

BECKEL: Yes, sure. I think this is fine. I think its fine. I think they ought to get everybody who is a criminal and even if you had to go into sanctuary cities and get them and get them out. The problem is there are so many of them. Obama got 2,000 in one week and these were targeted -- but the way, not a sanctuary city. These were inside the --

PERINO: But it also shows you the magnitude of the problem.


PERINO: If there is 2,000 in one week, we've got more work to do.

BECKEL: Nobody has ever argued or argue we don't have a problem.

GUTFELD: But I guess what --

BOLLING: It's 100,000 a year. That's nothing. Obama deported 400,000 a year -- year -- 2,000 is no big deal. I mean, here's the problem. When you come across and you are on U.S. territory, what you're supposed to do is be caught and processed. Obama didn't do that. He just sent them back on their way and then they would came back again and he'd send them on their way, come back again and every time you send them back, you call --

BECKEL: What would you do? You put them through a process then you convict them in a court of law, where do you put them then?

BOLLING: Then you send them back and they can't come back.


BOLLING: Under immigration reform law, bill turned to law, what you could do is say you come back again a certain amount of times, you go to jail.

BECKEL: Well, they're going to come back. If they come back, we have to throw them out and they come back --

GUILFOYLE: They were allowed back in. That was different.

BOLLING: There's no reason for them not to.

GUILFOYLE: I was a defense under President Obama.

GUTFELD: This is my point, it's like everybody is agreeing that Obama did this yet the media is acting like it's never happened before. To me, that's the crime, is that the media is acting -- the previous week, that somehow, they're like President Trump just came in and just rounded up people, never been done before. It's never been -- but you even agreed, Obama did this all the time.

GUILFOYLE: Except they were allowed back in. So it was sort of like --

BECKEL: No, they weren't allowed back in. They snuck back in.

GUILFOYLE: All right.

BECKEL: But, you know what, remember -- who was president when that kid, that picture of that -- terrible picture of that poor kid in the closet.

PERINO: Bill Clinton. Elian Gonzales.

BOLLING: Elian Gonzalez.

BECKEL: Yes, Elian Gonzalez. Now that's a lot of --

BOLLING: Where are you going with that?

BECKEL: I was just saying --

GUTFELD: Are you saying would you chase children with guns Bob? Well, you're getting really hard-core immigration. Speaking of which, we have sound on tape, Stephen Moore --

PERINO: Miller.

GUTFELD: Miller? Is that his name? Stephen Miller, that's correct. I love Jet Airliner. One of my favorite songs. There he is --

BOLLING: -- Moore.

GUTFELD: That's Steve miller.

BOLLING: That's Steve Miller Band.

GUTFELD: Yes, "Fly Like An Eagle."

GUILFOYLE: All right, great.

GUTFELD: I'm a joker, smoker, big time.


STEPHEN MILLER, SENIOR POLICY ADVISOR TO PRESIDENT TRUMP: Because of President Trump's actions, innocent people are now being kept out of harm's way and we as a country spend too little time thinking about the effects of open borders on vulnerable communities including our migrant communities, lawful migrants, trying to get their start in this country who have to deal with the scourge of cartel violence, the scourge of gangs, the scourge of violent criminals that we're now removing from this country.


GUTFELD: Bob, the smartest man in D.C. right there. Sorry, not Chris Wallace. He is the second smartest.

BECKEL: Back there I made more mistakes yesterday on the morning news. If they would put him back on the Sunday shows again, they're crazy. First of all --

GUILFOYLE: Well the president tweeted, "Congratulations Stephen Miller.
You did a fantastic job representing me on all the Sunday."

BECKEL: Of course you've got to do that all the time. Now, if he was screwing up so bad, I'll have a mimeographed copy of it.

GUTFELD: Mimeographed.

PERINO: Bob, high tech.

BECKEL: Not at least of which is national security. I know we're going to get to that rather line, anyway, where were we --

BOLLING: Stephen Miller. He's got a Sunday --

BECKEL: Miller said under President Trump's initiative, look at all these people who are safe. Trump had nothing to do with it. He refused to answer questions about Flynn. He refused to do anything that were accurate.

GUILFOYLE: He said actually that he thought Flynn was doing a good job.

BECKEL: These guys have made an art form out of lying. They're liars.

GUILFOYLE: Oh my god, Bob!

GUTFELD: Are they liars Dana?

GUILFOYLE: Did you see all the shows that he was on because he actually said that he thought that Flynn was doing a very good job and it wasn't his place to give the opinion of either the president of the United States or the chief of staff. I have all the transcripts, and so do you somewhere in your e-mail.

BECKEL: Which is why, which is why you could tell when somebody says that, I can't get in the mind of the president, that's the beginning of the end.
This guy is gone.

GUILFOYLE: What do you mean? He just did the shows --

GUTFELD: Hey, are we doing this to the e-block (ph)?

BOLLING: No, he means Flynn.


GUTFELD: This is a very deep tease.


GUTFELD: It sounds good for Valentine's Day. All right, coming up, President Trump vows to --



PERINO: Nothing.

GUTFELD: You have a dirty mind.

GUILFOYLE: You got to go back --


GUTFELD: All right. Trump vowed to vigorously pursue his plan for temporary travel ban during his first joint press conference with Canada's prime minister. Details on that and more, next.


PERINO: Today, President Trump met face-to-face for the first time with our leader of our neighbor to the north, Canada. He and Prime Minister Justine Trudeau spent the day talking about trade, job growth, border security and more. And then they held a news conference together at the White House. Here was the president earlier addressing the greatest threats to our national security.


TRUMP: Many, many problems. A lot of people have no idea how bad they are how serious they are. Not only internationally, but when you come right here. Obviously North Korea is a big, big problem. And we will deal with that very strongly. We have problems all over the Middle East. We have problems just about every corner of the globe, no matter where you look.


PERINO: Mr. Trump also defended his travel ban once again.


TRUMP: We want to have a big, beautiful open door and we want people to come in and come in our country but we cannot let the wrong people in, and I will not allow that to happen during this administration. We are getting such praise for our stance, and it's a stance of common sense. We are going to pursue it vigorously and we don't want to have our country have the kinds of problems that you're witnessing taking place not only here but all over the world. We won't stand for it.


PERINO: Trudeau made it clear that he holds a different position on the issue but said it wasn't his place to come to the U.S. and "lecture our country" on how we choose to govern. It's nice when your friends get along, right.

GUTFELD: OK, let's state the obvious here. He's very polite, very nice guy. Trudeau is also --

PERINO: Canadians are polite.

GUTFELD: Yes, but he's also let's face it, he's very good-looking and his policies --

GUILFOYLE: Glad you called that one.

GUTFELD: His policies require it. You need a pretty face to sell progressivism. No ugly guy could pull off that crap. And also, it feels good to him to talk about the Syrian refugee program. It feels good to say you're going to let in 50,000 people but don't blame us when we start talking about strengthening the border between Canada and United States because we feel it might be unprotected to our standards.

We don't want to have another Germany on our hands because you're right there. So I think it's noble when he talks about the 50,000 but you have to understand that we're going to have different standards than you are, and we have to make sure that the tiniest percentage from the 50,000, the tiniest percentage, five people, could pull off five attacks.

PERINO: You know what surprised me is that, well, this not have happened in a private meeting, but in their public comments, they really didn't talk about climate change and that's one of Trudeau's big things, Eric, as the -

BOLLING: Listen, there were a couple noteworthy things for me during that press conference. I think there was a moment where, I think it was a Canadian reporter asked the question about the northern border, and I was waiting to see what his response was going to be, President Trump. And he stood firm. He said no border is truly secure.

Everything is on the table, and that was important because as you know, as Greg points out, that Canada is a far more lenient immigration policy with refugees and with immigration. It is a concern that may end up being a concern down the road.

On foreign policy, you also set up a little bit of that with sound from Saturday night when North Korea tested their ballistic missile. I think the Trump administration needs to get their Asian policy down pat right now because remember the phone call he had with the Taiwanese president which in turn conflicted with his "one China" policy. And then you have Japan who's concerned about North Korea whereas China may like the fact that North Korea is saber rattling a little bit.

They really, really need to focus in on that. I would hope that that would be there next -- not just meeting with the royal leaders but actually come up with a -- this is where we are in our Asian policies.

BECKEL: Wouldn't you know that? I thought it was very interesting too because what he also said we're going to do this very, very soon. Three administrations have all tried to figure out how to deal with North Korea very, very soon.

Now our supreme leader, Trump, thinks he can do it. I think the answer is the only way you can stop this, unless you get China to stop supporting them which they will not do, is you're going to have to take military action against them. Does everyone want that to happen? I mean if
(INAUDIBLE) let loose our artillery they've got pointed at South Korea, they're going to wipe out hundreds of thousands --

BOLLING: They have 20 warheads. They have 20.

BECKEL: No, I'm not talking about nuclear. I'm talking about artillery that they've got aimed, 50,000.

PERINO: Let's go back up to the bigger picture, I think one of the things that people could take comfort in the last three weeks is that President Trump now, after several meetings, is able to pick up the phone. He can call Theresa May, the prime minister of the U.K. Shinzo Abe, they had a great meeting, the prime minister of Japan and now Justin Trudeau.

I think that they all recognize they're not always going to agree on policy but at least now they're on a face-to-face basis. They can call each other up and have some sort of relationship.

GUILFOYLE: Makes a big difference. I think it's important to really develop those relationships one-on-one, interpersonal level. Makes it very difficult to then have a conversation when you're not listening or paying attention o-r making, you know, pre-judgment about somebody. Dana, do you have the pieces of sound on the travel ban because I would like to comment?

PERINO: I do not believe I do.

GUTFELD: All right, well then --

PERINO: -- me to say.



GUTFELD: Let us act it out.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, OK. So, I didn't have an initial piece. You have a lot, Greg, are you willing?


GUILFOYLE: Use a lot.

PERINO: Read your lines.


GUTFELD: You're going to be the Syrian refugee.


GUILFOYLE: So here's what happened. On Saturday, a 39-year-old Syrian refugee was arrested in Canada on six counts of sexual assault, molesting young girls under the age of 16 at a water park. So he's getting a lot of pushback on that because of the open borders kind of policy.

I know Canada will step in and take more, and when you look at this, the juxtaposition to president Trump's, travel ban right now where he's catching a lot of grief about it, it's for these exact situations and circumstances where you have a high influx of people that we are improperly able to vet.

So you have to make certain who you're coming in. And you want to be compassionate but balance it with the interests of public safety and national security. And I think it's kind of like perfect positioning right now with the two leaders meeting.

BECKEL: That was well said. If we hadn't ran about all of the supreme leader Trump's press conference, we could've talked more about this in the second segment but --

PERINO: You know what, this is why we have a daily show.

BECKEL: Of course.

PERINO: And we have more ahead. Obamacare supporters using two party tactics at town halls over the weekend to dress down Republican lawmakers over their efforts to repeal and replace the health care law. We're going to see that next.


GUILFOYLE: Well the left is fired up and mobilizing in an effort to put pressure on republicans who want to replace Obamacare.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: This is what democracy looks like.


GUILFOYLE: Angry liberal constituents in Georgia and elsewhere across the country lashed out against the Obamacare overhaul effort, addressing their lawmakers in town halls and also attacking President Trump's agenda. Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer applauds the nationwide show of outrage by Democrat voters.


SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D), SENATE MINORITY LEADER: The fact that there were protests is a great thing. I've never seen such energy in the streets since the Vietnam War.

The Democrats and so many Americans are united in opposing Trump in where he's going that I think overall it's an extremely positive thing.


GUILFOYLE: All right, so Dana, what do you make of his messaging here?

PERINO: Well, of Schumer, I think that he's hoping that this is true because as we were saying or have been saying, the Democrats are really in the wilderness like which direction do they go? They had decided, well, they could have triangulated and picked up a couple of Republicans to help support some of the things they want to do or gone around the Republicans and went straight to the president and said, hey, we've got a deal for you and will make the Republicans look back.

Instead of doing that, both the White House and the Democrats on Capitol Hill decided there's not going to be a lot of conversation at least at the moment until Chuck Schumer I think buoyed by the idea that the left could actually do what the right tried to do, the Tea Party movement did on Obamacare.

However, Obamacare still passed and all the results that people are dealing with in terms of Obamacare and I don't think that the Democrats should be blind to that, I mean, they've lost six elections or three elections in a row, the two midterms and the main one in 2016 basically because of Obamacare. So there are changes that need to be made. It doesn't seem to me like Chuck Schumer is willing to come to the table at all.

GUILFOYLE: It doesn't seem like it and what I'm hearing from you is that they're lacking like a comprehensive core strategy to be able to advance the ball.

GUTFELD: But you know what, they've got the chance and the signs. And though the chance and the signs it's exceed before revealing organization contrive (ph) and sponsored by the same people from the same places. I'm not going to say who it is but it's a protective (ph) village of the walking dead.

Look, CNN today harkens back to the Tea Party. Oh, this could be like the Tea Party. But I remember them marginalizing and mocking the Tea Party.

GUILFOYLE: They hated them.

GUTFELD: They hated -- so now the Tea Party is this awesome and inspirational movement because they're finding the left-wing equivalent.
But the only way this is going to work as if the party gets away from the grievance, identity activism, and hate and starts moving more towards, you know, like a Jim Webb not a Jim Jones.

GUILFOYLE: Well that's coming up in the show --

GUTFELD: -- socialist.

GUILFOYLE: -- well as well. Dana and I got that. All right, so Eric, the Democrats lost in the wilderness, no compass and basically are not even effectively putting across their messaging to make it sound or appear like they even have a plan. They think like losing is either (ph) winning.

BOLLING: And Schumer was out in front as was Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid on trashing the Tea Party demonstrations. Those were organic, grassroots town hall demonstrations. These seem to be -- "Fox & Friends" had a couple of examples of newspaper ads that they clipped showing here, we will teach you how to protest. We'll show you where to go. We'll teach you where you can get paid to do it.

But remember, the Tea Party was in response in 2010, they flipped the House in response to Obamacare passing with zero Republican votes and passing something that no one on the right light. So, it was a natural response to an overbearing government program that no one liked. Let's see, you know, if this is legit, if they don't like what Donald Trump brings or the Republicans brings as a replacement to the Obamacare, they may be right and they may have something and there maybe some risk to some (INAUDIBLE), but as of right now, to take something, to change something, isn't really as outrageous as passing something that no one on your side likes at all.

BECKEL: Well I don't know how they got that line in there about how they were opposed to Trump's agenda, since he doesn't have one yet. I don't think. I think he's a long way away from it.

Also, the idea that this election is on Obamacare, there's no evidence at all that Trump won because of Obamacare. He won because of a good message that appealed to people who had been left out of the mainstream.

BOLLING: Obamacare premiums skyrocketed the very week before the elections. Skyrocketed. Some places...

BECKEL: I'm telling you, if you look at every exit poll -- every exit poll and the latest Pew research poll, and nobody but nobody...


BOLLING: You know what? I think we're getting Beckel'd right now. I think we're getting the Beckel Almanac.


BOLLING: No one -- no one is ascribing...

GUILFOYLE: The abridged version or...

BOLLING: ... the gross increase in Obamacare premiums the week of the election, as at least one of the contributing factors to President Trump?
Of course it is.

BECKEL: What do you think?

GUILFOYLE: That's the biggest part of President Obama's legacy.

BECKEL: Do you have one suggestion about how you're going to change it?
One, just one.

PERINO: There are -- there are...

BOLLING: One, repeal the mandate. The mandate part.

BECKEL: That means it falls apart, without the mandate.

BOLLING: Correct.

PERINO: I think that, for Republicans who are going back to their districts to hold these type of town halls. And they're not the kind of people like us. We don't have to go and face our constituents. It is jarring to go to an event where you think you're going to see your constituents, You have people who are bussed in, maybe they're not even from your district.


BECKEL: That's just ridiculous. That's a Greg-ism.

GUILFOYLE: No, that's what happens.

PERINO: I don't think it's all paid protesters, but I do think that they are super-organized. They're figuring out, OK, if you're in this part of the state, travel three hours to get to Utah -- to Salt Lake City in order to go to Jason Chaffetz's town hall. That's happening.

BECKEL: You don't think the people already did that?

GUILFOYLE: That's -- this has happened.


PERINO: No, I don't think so.

GUTFELD: They have jobs.

GUILFOYLE: All right.

BECKEL: Great. Jobs.

GUILFOYLE: All right. Greg, you touched on Jim Webb. He thinks the party's way far to the left. We're going to skip that; we're going to move on.

Don't go anywhere. "The Fastest Seven," Grammys edition, is up next. The most memorable and controversial moments from music's biggest night directly ahead. Stay with us.


BOLLING: Welcome back. Time for...


GRAPHIC: Fastest 7


BOLLING: ... "The Fastest Seven Minutes on Television." Three award- worthy stories, seven awakening minutes, one auspicious host.

First up, it's awards season and the 2017 Grammys, music's prom night, went down last night. As a music lover, I never miss it, and this year I wholeheartedly expected a ton of political commentary.

Early on, James Corden and J. Lo went with some minor political mentions, nothing huge. And there's also this: an awesome "Make America Great" dress worn magnificently by Joy Vila. And that seemed to be it for a good part of the three-and-a-half-hour show and then A Tribe Called Quest took the stage. Busta Rhymes busted a rhyme on the president.


BUSTA RHYMES, RAPPER: I just want to thank President Agent Orange for perpetuating all of the evil that you been perpetuating throughout the United States. I want to thank President Agent Orange for the desperate attempt at the Muslim ban. The week of the devil, we, the people.


BOLLING: See that, Greg? They busted through that wall.

GUTFELD: Yes, that was amazing. OK, No. 1, a lot people are going to compare the woman wearing the Trump dress to the woman who wore the Obama dress, but it's actually different, because this was a risk. You wear the Obama dress to the Grammys, people love you. If you go like that, you're going to get death threats, which he did.

But what I found interesting was that when I was watching Busta Rhymes, the Grammys, it's no longer a counterculture event, because they're reflecting conventional elitist opinion. Busta Rhymes is no edgier then Debra Messing, no edgier than Lena Dunham. They're the same -- the same conventional wisdom. They're so boring, the audience didn't even care.
That's why the dress hit. The dress hit, because that was an act of rebellion. This was just garbage. Rebellion is now on the other side.
It's on the right, the young right. And these people are just trying to catch up.

BOLLING: And Dana -- and some of the movie awards...

GUILFOYLE: Dress them down.

BOLLING: ... and the other awards shows, there was a lot more political commentary. They laid back a little bit. Is it because they didn't have...

PERINO: Well, I'm going to go out there and venture a guess. That their managers and their record labels suggested that they do not.

So remember during the inaugural parade and all the events, and there was concern, I guess, or commentary that so many acts didn't want to perform or there were acts that had said they would perform the inauguration, and then they had to pull back. And I think that all came from the record labels, as well. So I think they were just taking a cue from the people who manage their business.

BOLLING: Bob, wasn't that your nickname? Agent Orange?

BECKEL: No, it wasn't. I didn't go to Vietnam to get it, but I don't think Trump, the supreme leader, did either. But here's the problem. I don't have any idea who any of these people are. So I mean, the...

GUILFOYLE: Busta Rhymes?

BECKEL: From the black dudes to the woman with the dress on. You know, what's -- I mean, I don't get it.

BOLLING: Take the politics out of the Grammys?

BECKEL: Yes. Sure. I think Dana is exactly right; their managers said don't get into it. The guy did get 63 million votes, 3 million less than Hillary.

BOLLING: K.G., on the Grammys?

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God. You see where this narrative is going, right?
It's going to be like "Groundhog Day" around here.

Listen, you know, let them do what they're going to do. I liked the dress, because I thought it was different and it was a risk-taking move where, you know, I'm surprised somebody didn't, like, you know, throw eggs at her or pie or do something like that.

GUTFELD: She had to wear a thing over it.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, to hide it until she could get in. Right? I mean, I like that.

BOLLING: Stay right there, K.G. You're up first on this one. Adele opened the show with a noteworthy presentation of her megahit "Hello." She would later take to the stage to pay tribute to George Michael, who died just a few weeks ago. Adele started the song in the wrong key, and rather than forging through, Adele abruptly stopped, cursed a couple of times, and restarted the tribute song.


ADELE (singing): After...

(speaking): I know it's live TV. I know -- I need to start again. I (EXPLETIVE DELETED) up. I can't do it again like last year. I'm sorry for swearing, and I'm sorry for starting again. Can we please start it again?
I'm sorry. I can't mess this up for him. I'm sorry. I can't.

(singing): Looking for some education...


BOLLING: Well, the audience was in shock at first, as was I, but after a very heartfelt tribute, Adele received a standing ovation.

K.G., a tough thing to do, start over, but it was the right thing. She was apparently friends -- she was friends with George Michael.

GUILFOYLE: Right, exactly. So, you know, I liked it. I think it was fearless. At first it was like, whoa, that was awkward. But guess what?
She wanted to get it done right. It was a memorable moment, was heartfelt, because it was someone she had tremendous affection and admiration for. So ultimately, she'll be remembered for doing a great performance instead of all the talk then being about how it was off-key. And I guess it got hit on the wrong note. So she started off; she fixed it; she got it done.


BECKEL: Well, actually, I do know who Adele is. And you know, she actually has a -- this is true; I'm not making a joke. She has a tattoo of him on her back just before the Grammys. I assume that means that she...

GUILFOYLE: Did you see it?

BECKEL: Did I see it? No, I wish I had.

BOLLING: All right. Dana.

PERINO: Well, I think -- why I admire her for going ahead and starting over, which is it shows that there's no shame in, when you are in a public position -- obviously, it's live television, millions of people watching.
Now it's going to be on YouTube and everything. There is no shame in saying, "Wait a second. Let me start over." So for young girls who are watching that, they should know that.


BOLLING: Call me crazy, Greg, I was just hoping for a little bit more recognizable George Michael songs.

GUTFELD: Yes, I was thinking the same way, like "Wake Me Up Before You Go- Go" or "Careless Whisper." They're all top hits in my book.

But you know what? This was totally contrived. It was planned. No, I'm kidding.

But you know what I love about this? Everybody forgets about Katy Perry.
Katy Perry, who was so whiny and small; and she now hectors like a schoolmarm over, like, big beats. She tries to give this message. Nobody remembers Katy Perry from last night, because you had Beyonce and you had Adele. And Chance the Rapper, who was great.

BOLLING: Chance was good. I liked...

GUTFELD: Bruno Mars.

BOLLING: All right. Let's do this one. Finally, Beyonce took the spotlight for an extended version for one of her songs, like eight minutes long. Before the Bey-Bey army attack me, I just didn't like the song.
Sorry. I loved Ed Sheeran's new song and was mesmerized, Greg, by Gary Clark Junior's smoldering blues guitar. Fantastic.

Beyonce's eight-minute thing, though, meh. Apparently Adele disagreed with me. After winning the Grammy for Song of the Year, Record of the Year, and Album of the Year, Adele split her award with Beyonce.


ADELE: I can't possibly accept this award, and I'm very humbled and I'm very grateful and gracious. But my artist of my life is Beyonce, and this album to me, the "Lemonade" album, was just so monumental.

The way that you make me and my friends feel, the way you make my black friends feel, is empowering. And you make them stand up for themselves, and I love you. I always have, and I always will.


BOLLING: All right. Dana.

PERINO: Well, I think that Adele is the first person to be tired of winning. So tired of winning. Make it stop.

GUTFELD: There were a couple things that I just -- A, I thought Chance the Rapper, he thanked God, like, 100 times. That was -- it was like a religious revival, which was kind of refreshing.

But I also loved the Bee Gees tribute. Because nobody can sing the Bee Gees as well as the Bee Gees.

BOLLING: Wasn't that amazing?

GUTFELD: They sing so high. And everybody is trying to sing the Bee Gees.
They can't do it.

PERINO: Remember the Bee Gees tribute band, though, in Vegas?


PERINO: When we were there? They were pretty good. They were from Australia.

BOLLING: They were.

GUTFELD: The Australia Bee Gees.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, they were part of our show that day. That was so cute.

GUTFELD: Love the Bee Gees.

BECKEL: Me, too. That was my favorite.

GUILFOYLE: Bee Gee, like, cover band.

OK, I thought that Bey-Bey -- Bey-Bey looked like a total babe. She looked beautiful. I thought that was nice.

Adele went a little bit over the top, and I think she was almost embarrassed and seemed apologetic about winning and winning and winning.
Like you said, Dana, she got like, oh, winning is awkward. No, win. You won.

PERINO: You won.

GUILFOYLE: And against somebody who had a phenomenal album in "Lemonade."
And just, you know, own it.

BOLLING: All right, Bob. Adele actually broke her Grammy in half.

BECKEL: Which tells me how cheap those things are. I didn't think you could take them -- I thought they were all solid gold or solid something.
But she split it with two hands. I mean, that's pretty cool.

GUTFELD: They're made of chocolate.

BECKEL: That means I wouldn't want to mess with her.

BOLLING: All right.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.

GUTFELD: The Easter bunny.

BOLLING: An update on the controversy surrounding national security advisor General Mike Flynn and his talk with Russia's ambassador before the Trump administration was in power. Stay right there.



CHRISTOPHER WALLACE, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Did Michael Flynn ever discussed lifting sanctions in any of those conversations, do you know?

MIKE PENCE (R), VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I talked to general Flynn yesterday, and the conversations that took place at that time were not in any way related to new U.S. sanctions against Russia or the expulsion of diplomats.


BECKEL: That was Vice President Pence saying definitively that national security advisor Mike Flynn hadn't improperly discussed sanctions with Russia's ambassador before the Trump administration was in power.

Flynn now says sanctions may have come up in talks. It doesn't appear that the general's job is in jeopardy. The White House says he has apologized to the vice president for telling him sanctions weren't discussed, and Mr.
Pence has accepted has apology.

Later this afternoon, the press secretary -- the White House says that the president was now -- the supreme leader was now...

PERINO: President.;

BECKEL: ... is what, interrogating?

PERINO: Evaluating.

BECKEL: ... evaluating Flynn's future, which is a good sign that Flynn, his future has been decided.

GUILFOYLE: Not according to Charles Krauthammer. As if that has any bearing.

BECKEL: Well, what did he say?

GUILFOYLE: Well, he said that he committed no crime, that the problem is he should not have lied or been untruthful about it. If, in fact, he did.
But that he was about to become NSA -- the head of NSA advisor and so, therefore, he should be talking to the Russians. That's what he had said before on "Special Report."

BECKEL: Well, Eric, shouldn't you -- talking about sanctions, saying you can't remember if you did. This is one of the biggest issues between the United States and Russia.

BOLLING: I honestly don't think...

GUILFOYLE: Not a crime.

BOLLING: Listen, General Flynn, a hero, three-star general, hero. Love him. But here's what happens. If you put Mike Pence, Vice President Pence in a bad situation by going out on the shows saying that "I've spoken to General Flynn and he never had those conversations," you've kind of cornered Flynn -- Pence in a way you don't need to. He's the vice president. That needs to stay intact.

I don't know how this plays out. I do know you have to protect Mike Pence's reputation. The man clearly asked him, was told something, and now it seems like things are changing. So got to clear it up.

BECKEL: Well, I -- Dana, you and I both worked in White Houses and have seen the beginning and the end of people, how the slight nicks start to get bigger and bigger. What do you think about Flynn's future?

PERINO: Well, I think that we have to wait and see what the president decides. So there is frustration from the White House from a communications standpoint that a lot of the good stuff that they're doing, the meetings that they've had, the policies that they're putting forward are not getting the coverage and the attention that they think they should.

But one of the problems is that even this afternoon within the last two hours, you've had two different answers about the president's confidence in Mike Flynn. Two hours ago, he had the full confidence; and then 45 minutes after that, the press secretary said that the president is going to continue to evaluate. I don't know what is accurate.

I do -- I can imagine that the vice president is frustrated, but I also know that Mike Pence is the kind of guy who would forgive and try to move on from that. but it's not an easy thing at a White House when you have that situation, because it bogs everything down.

BECKEL: Greg, does Flynn make it or not?

GUTFELD: I don't know. But I've got to say, you know, everybody wants transparency, and that's the amazing truth about this White House. They are really bad at hiding their mistakes, because they aren't politicians.
This wouldn't have happened to Valerie Jarrett. He would have hid all of her discussions with Iran. No one would ever have known anything, because she's sneakier.

BECKEL: Well, there you go.

BOLLING: This likely could have gone away if Flynn said, "Yes, I had the conversation. I didn't realize, and maybe I didn't go to the extent that people are saying." And then he didn't put Pence in the position...

GUILFOYLE: Yes, the allegation is that he violated the Logan Act.

BECKEL: All I can say is "One More Thing" is up next!


GUTFELD: "One More Thing." Kimberly Guilfoyle.

GUILFOYLE: Wow, that was strange and exhilarating at the same time.

It's Fashion Week right here in New York City and one of my favorite times of the year, indeed. And after the show tonight, I'll be headed to one of the hottest runway shows in town, and guess what? You can join me. I'll be going backstage at the Zang Toi 2017 Brilliant Royal Blue Fashion Show right before the models hit the catwalk. Very cool. You can watch the behind-the-scenes action life on "The Five's" Facebook page. I'll also be streaming it on my page. Go to in about an hour or so, around 7 p.m. Eastern, and we shall see you there.


BECKEL: Is that guy Chinese?

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God, Bob.

BECKEL: I was just curious. I never heard of him.

PERINO: He's an American.

GUTFELD: All right. Dana.

PERINO: So Valentine's Day is tomorrow.

GUTFELD: Oh, my goodness.

PERINO: Yes, don't forget. There's a Santa Fe animal shelter, and it's released a video with the hopes of making a love connection. It's a two- minute parody of "The Bachelor" but with dogs and possible owners. Take a look.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can't imagine not getting a rose today.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm here to win. So basically, it's going to be me who gets the rose.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who will Stuart choose to continue his journey toward finding a home? And who will go home in tears?


PERINO: I love it. I think it's such a creative way to get the word out that there are, in Santa Fe, the Santa Fe Animal Shelter and Humane Society said it has anywhere from 75 to 100 animals ready to be adopted each day.
That's probably replicated all across the country. So you can make a love connection and make some cute videos like that.

GUILFOYLE: I like it. I like it.

BOLLING: That's awesome.

GUTFELD: Very nice. All right. Let's continue on. Shall we?


GUTFELD: Greg's Sports Corner


GUTFELD: Westminster's Dog Show has been going on, and there's this beagle named Maya. And like, she had to do the obstacle course, but she found that the obstacle course was an obstacle. She just didn't care. Show it.

I ain't going there. I'm not going there. No. I'm not your -- I'm not your pet. I'm not your pet. A little lick right there. We all get that urge.

Here's my favorite. Just stops, then goes up. Isn't that great? Yes, they've been practicing that.

PERINO: Over and over.

BECKEL: I owned three beagles.

BOLLING: You owned three beagles.

BECKEL: No, I did when I was married. My wife and my kids liked them.
They're the dumbest.

GUILFOYLE: That is so mean.

GUTFELD: They watch the show, these beagles.

BOLLING: They're awesome.

BECKEL: You do?

BOLLING: I love beagles.

GUILFOYLE: Hello? Snoopy. Come on.

GUTFELD: Not a real dog.

BOLLING: So you know I'm writing this book, "The Swamp." I talked about it last week. I absolutely adore this project. It's about scandals, cronyism, corruption in D.C. And there are so many stories that keep coming. I'm trying to cull the list.

Dana sent me an amazing story this morning on a lobbyist. Fantastic. But if you have one, go ahead and tweet me to Eric Bolling at Twitter or Facebook. Either one. Tell me your favorite scandal. And I'll see, you know, if it makes the list. I just -- this is amazing. I'm having so much fun.

GUTFELD: You should do a chapter on actual swamps, like swamps.

BOLLING: Did you know D.C. was built on a swap?

GUTFELD: There you go.

BOLLING: This is a true story.

PERINO: That's why it's so hot there.

GUILFOYLE: This is why you adore this...

BOLLING: Adore this project.

BECKEL: You know, there's another way to promote your book. I should learn from you guys how you do this. Mine is "I Should Be Dead." Now, listen, here's...

GUILFOYLE: Say it again.

BECKEL: ... an interesting story. It's a headline. They tell me it's a little old, like, three weeks. Dominican Republic so it's OK. This is the headline in the Dominican newspaper, El Nationale. And it has Bibi Netanyahu, and next to him is the president, supreme leader of the United States of America. But that is not Donald Trump. It's Mr. Baldwin. The newspaper later apologized to the supreme leader.

GUTFELD: Interesting. Honest mistake. What are you going to do?

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