This is a rush transcript from "The Five," February 3, 2017. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone, I am Bob Beckel along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Steve Hilton, Melissa Francis and Kennedy. It is 5 o'clock in New York City and this is "The Five."
Anti-Trump agitators are at it again.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: (BLEEP), (BLEEP), (BLEEP).
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BECKEL: Violence erupted at another college campus last night, this time at New York University were angry protesters lashed out against the appearance of a conservative speaker. At least 11 people were arrested. President Trump is not amused by the latest violence tweeting, "Professional anarchists, thugs, and paid protesters are proving the point of the millions of people who voted to make America great again."
Our lawmakers may be adding fuel to the fire. Nancy Pelosi is taking aim at Steve Bannon, the president's chief strategist.
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REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), HOUSE MINORITY LEADER: What's making America less safe is to have a white supremacist named to the National Security Council as a permanent member. It's a stunning thing that a white supremacist, Bannon, would be a permanent member of the National Security Council.
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BECKEL: All right, Kimberly, I suppose using the word white supremacist without having proof beyond the fact, in the web page in which some white supremacists wrote some things that but I don't like Bannon. I don't like any of them, but that's not the point.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Well he's not a white supremacist and she shouldn't slander him by saying this. I mean it's really conduct unbecoming. She has no proof to back that up and it just shows the depths that they will go to try to disparage someone and the desperation, really, of the liberals and I'm so sorry, Bob, but your party right now.
BECKEL: Yes. No, let me make this clear --
GUILFOYLE: I mean, be surprised on Nancy Pelosi, wow.
BECKEL: -- those are not liberals. Those are anarchists, many of them paid to do that kind of stuff, but we all get lumped together. All of this (INAUDIBLE). I wasn't out to break anything, unless your window was around, I would have broken in. Steve, do you think that this is representative of the anti-Trump protest movement?
STEVE HILTON, GUEST CO-HOST: Definitely representative of the sentiment and the feeling. And what's amazing about what's going on is that so many people now on the left are so crazed by the sense of self-righteousness and moral indignation about what Trump is doing that they don't see the irony. So, they are doing exactly what they accused Trump of doing.
So, they call him a bully -- what they're doing by shutting down speeches is bullying.
HILTON: They call him intolerant -- what is more intolerant than stopping someone speaking? They call him authoritarian. The tactics that they're using are exactly that. They are literally doing the very thing that they criticize Trump for.
Now, if you're being political about it, in a way I think this helps Republicans. Every time people see stuff like that, they think, I'm not with them. I'm with the normal people that don't do that. But actually I mean it's really sad and I think the really sad thing that I'm certainly experiencing on a daily basis, it's not so much the violent protests.
It's the way that anyone who expresses any kind of understanding of or support for what Trump is doing, the conversation is closed down by everyone on the left. I find that particularly -- you remember this in the Bay area, Kimberly, where I live now out in California. You can't say anything. You can't even have a conversation.
GUILFOYLE: Terrifying if you do.
BECKEL: -- the hell out of you guys in 1776. Melissa, go ahead.
MELISSA FRANCIS, GUEST CO-HOST: No, I mean, you talk about being out in San Francisco. So in the last hour, I was talking to a student at Berkeley who was the head of the Republican Party on the Berkeley campus, and I said to him, my goodness, you are walking around and U.C. Berkeley self- identifying as a Republican?
He said, yes he is. It's terrifying but it's a small group, but that they are -- they don't even allow to have their names up because they are afraid for their safety. But he says it feels like it's important that he stands up and has his voice heard. And what's amazing about that, it's rebellious I mean, to be a conservative.
I mean it's brave to go out there and be a conservative on the Berkeley campus, like you were saying. The way the roles are reversed, I mean they talk about fascism. That on the screen is fascism, when people are violently opposed to allowing other points of view.
GUILFOYLE: Free speech.
FRANCIS: If you don't join group thinking, if you don't speak out like everyone else, the exact same way, that you face physical violence, and that is what is going on.
BECKEL: You know that -- I bet that Republican Party at Berkeley has five people on their role.
FRANCIS: They say they have 1,000, but I find that hard to believe. But the people are afraid to have their names on there, and you know, very few come out when they do something.
GUILFOYLE: And that event was sold out.
BECKEL: When these things are run, and we've run this one now. Good work producers. We've run this about four days in a row. Do you think this is fair to make this representative of the liberal anti-Trump protest movement?
KENNEDY, GUEST CO-HOST: I think that's exactly what these violent progressive leftists are doing. They're trying to make as much noise as possible so they can eclipse the news cycle. And that's the message they want to get across. When you have people like Gavin McInnes and Milo Yiannopoulos who go on to these college campuses and all they're doing is essentially taking the pacifier away from the baby, seeing if the baby will cry.
The baby is going to cry every single time. That's the reaction you're going to get. And it plays completely into their hands. I mean that's what they want because it proves their point. That these college campuses, where you have this sort of foment from the left have become so fascist and as Steve points out lightly, it's laughable that they say they're from anti- fascist organizations which is how they advertise themselves on Facebook to try to shutdown the NYU event.
BECKEL: You know for some reason, Kennedy, I had hoped for a different answer.
HILTON: The other thing that's going on here, the reason that it's getting all the attention is because there's a complete vacuum from the Democratic Party. They still haven't understood that they lost the election. They don't understand what the reason all those people turned away from them in solidly blue states. They haven't done that thinking.
Look at what Nancy Pelosi said, completely extreme. That kind of response is just not going to help them.
BECKEL: You know, this is a situation where the party -- my party, first of all, lacks a chairman -- not that it matters some way or another, but the fact is that the base is moving and that politicians in Washington are saying these outrageous things like Pelosi did, and I don't agree with that.
But I'll tell you, it is not fair in my view, to say that these are all fascists. They represent the liberal wing. They represent liberal progressive anti-Trump people. Now, I happen to be an anti-Trump person to the absolute core but I don't consider myself a fascist and I don't consider myself an anarchist, and I'm not going to send George Soros back his check.
BECKEL: Kimberly, let me ask you a question. What -- these people, I mean, why don't they get arrested? That's what I want to know.
FRANCIS: Yes, in Berkeley.
GUILFOYLE: Well, it's because they are so afraid to do anything to enforce the law. I worked as a prosecutor in the Bay Area of san Francisco and in Los Angeles, and as you know, grew up in San Francisco, former first lady of San Francisco, I saw this.
I mean we had protesters out in front of my house all the time when we did the Care Not Cash Program trying to give people services and housing instead of just handing them cash so they would become even more drug addicted and just continue to substance abuse. They lit sofas on fire in front of my house.
They rang the doorbell all day and all night long, so I have threatened to go out there with the hose. But, you know, at the end of the day, they were disabused of the notion that that was a good idea. But if you allow and coddle this type of foment, you're only going to make it worse.
So when people have something to say at one of these universities, I admire them from being able to go forward and face those crowds. I had to go to Cornell after Jesse Watters was kicked out of the campus --
FRANCIS: I thought that was fun.
GUILFOYLE: It was fun, but you know, I was treated well though.
FRANCIS: The whole idea of college is that you have somebody come on campus and speak that has an opposing point of view and that challenges your own thought. Make sure that you really believe what you believe. Hear the other side. When you live in an echo chamber, you have no idea what the other side is saying.
BECKEL: You'd be surprised that many of us wish that these people do speak and be allowed to speak because when they do speak, people understand what it's about. When they understand what it is about, they understand that authoritarianism exists on the other side with Mr. Trump. Now listen, did they get your shoes? They didn't get your shoes.
GUILFOYLE: Well they didn't manage to break through the perimeter.
FRANCIS: Kennedy liked that comment.
KENNEDY: I do not like the idea of someone stealing Kimberly's shoes in the night. That is not OK.
KENNEDY: But what I wanted to say about with Nancy Pelosi, because what I find so offensive is there are only a couple of things you can tar people with nowadays that really malign and destroy their reputation. You can call them a racist or you can call them a pedophile.
And what if Nancy Pelosi stood up in front of those cameras claimed that because of an association that one of Donald Trump's advisor had with, I don't know, an alleged pedophile that made that person a pedophile. That's essentially what she's saying with the white supremacist comment and I think Steve Bannon has a claim.
GUILFOYLE: I think he does too.
BECKEL: That's what you're saying about not when you say fascist. You're saying that that means that rest of us --
HILTON: Yes, but that's all -- honestly, but that's all coming on the left. That kind of way of having a political argument is coming from the left. That's what is going on right now. And I think --
BECKEL: That is not coming from the left.
HILTON: -- it is and I think --
HITLON: -- and it has because actually, you know, people protesting, people boycotting, that's all great. That's people getting involved in politics and democracy. We want to see more of that, nut not when it is violent and not when it's so extreme that it is just distorting and smearing.
BECKEL: You see, now, there were three million women who --
BECKEL: -- three million women in this country in one city or another and protested Trump. Now, they did it peacefully --
FRANCIS: Right, but that was about people speaking. But see that was people were allowed to talk. I mean that's the main difference. So with the Women's March, I mean a lot of us saw it out on the street. That was a lot of people that got organized, they came out, they had a message, they had signs. In some cases they had costumes.
I mean this was Americans going out and having their voice heard whether you agree with it or not. What we're seeing here is completely the opposite. It's shutting down speeches --
BECKEL: That's right --
FRANCIS: It's shutting down marches --
BECKEL: -- it was absolute --
FRANCIS: and there's violence. Yes, the opposite.
BECKEL: Excuse me, I'm being told -- so I'm not used to being at the top of the show, and I'm being told now that we have to tease. Now, does tease mean it's time to get out? Oh yes, the White House puts Iran on notice this week and today they got their notice in the form of new sanctions. Iran doesn't appear to be backing down. Details on the president's foreign policy agenda, next.
GUILFOYLE: Code one, right? President Donald Trump continues to put the world on notice taking a tough stand on protecting the United States. We have a lot to get to in this lot (ph) including developments with both Israel and Russia. But first, the Trump administration has slapped Iran with more than two dozen new sanctions as punishment for a recent ballistic missile test. The White House explains why the move was necessary.
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SEAN SPICER, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: We've taken these actions today after careful consideration and will continue to respond with appropriate action. These designations marked yet another stop in our continued effort to aggressively target Iran's ballistic missile program and terrorism- related activities.
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GUILFOYLE: Iran condemns the new sanctions claiming they violate the U.N. Security Council resolution. They are threatening to take reciprocal action against Americans. So obviously this is a very serious situation, and coming right in the beginning of a new administration just a couple weeks in office.
FRANCIS: I mean it must feel like whiplash to Iran. They had it so much nicer under the past administration. Just drilling down on the details, I mean this sort of this back and forth on they say they didn't violate this treaty. The point lies in whether or not those missiles can carry nuclear warheads, that sort of what we're parsing here at this point.
The U.S. side is saying that absolutely it can, Iran saying, no, I don't think they can and this doesn't really violate it. We all know where this is heading. They did violate the sanctions even though people argue that they didn't. They did. They were caring too much heavy water which is what you use when you're, you know, making radioactive components.
And I think Donald Trump and the administration is not going to put up with it. Where we go from here is obviously treacherous waters and pretty scary because you say, how are they going to react? Do they kind of take a pause and take a step back or does it escalate? We'll see.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, I mean the impact to see if, you know, on the international community, everyone is on notice now and watching to see what will happen next.
HILTON: Yes, I'm not at all surprised by this because -- and a lot of people today were saying that the strength of the language against Russia, for example, was a pivot and a change and I don't think that's true at all. I think one of the things that's clearly true about Trump, if you think about all of the years he has been in the campaign and since he was elected, it's very clear that the single thing that matters most to him, apart from massive ratings, is strength.
He is clearly someone who prioritizes this idea of strength and wants to demonstrate strength at every stage. And I always thought that is the kind of way he would respond, and that's what you saw I think for example, even during the transition period with that tweet he sent out about Taiwan, which I thought was great. And if you see now that position of Russia, I always thought there was a misunderstanding of this whole Trump love affair with Putin.
I think that he's got a very practical point of view about it, always has had, which is let's try and get along with them to do the things we need to get done, but if he crosses us, if he does the things we don't agree with, I'm going to show strength, unlike Obama. So I think this is all a consistent picture of the U.S. exerting strength on the international scene.
GUILFOYLE: And so interesting because in the tweet when he wrote about, you know, hey, they didn't appreciate how kind Obama was to them -- Iran, Bob.
BECKEL: First of all, if you think that we get the sanctions that Obama and many other countries put on Iran, they were much stronger than these, one. Two, if Trump had any foreign policy experience, he would know that the real strength would be getting six countries or nine together to set these sanctions on.
Now it's us. The rest of the world is on slapping sanctions yet, but he could. He could have gotten together if he had just slowed down, put his pen down, got Steve Bannon out of the room and decided what he was going to do was make some calls to Britain, to France, to Germany, to get some of those people lined up. But oh, no, I'm going to be a tough guy I'm going to send a tweet out. That tweet is going to hurt the hell out of them.
HILTON: Yes, but wait, wait. There was this phrase that uses sort of classic diplomats. I don't even know what it meant -- the snapback sanctions, right. You break them -- you go to them and you snap back the sanctions. Now I know this is not actually to do with the agreement but that's the principle, which is a very quick response. If you go through those diplomatic channels of this, you know it will take forever to get anything done.
GUILFOYLE: Right. Kennedy, what do you make of this? I mean he's trying to show, you know, strength, firmness, resolute in terms of how he wants to approach this, not just --
KENNEDY: You know, it's really an interesting contrast to Russia, which you touched on, Steve, and I think right now the administration is frankly trying to confuse Russia because the president comes out and you know, he says we're going to try and do this the nice way for us. We're going to see where and how we can cooperate. Rex Tillerson says, I don't necessarily agree with sanctions, I don't think they get a lot done.
But then the U.S. ambassador to the U.N., Nikki Haley, is saying no, we stand with the Ukraine here and we do not appreciate what Russia has been doing for the last two years, and that's a very confusing message. I think that is on purpose, but here with Iran, it's very unified, and they're saying, no.
You know, Mike Flynn saying the same thing. We are going to shut this down, you are on notice. You have to lock this up because even if Iran says, well, you know, these missiles are not capable of a nuclear payload.
KENNEDY: We're not going to take a gamble like we did with Nancy Pelosi in the ACA. We're not going to find out what it says and wait until we pass it. We're not going to wait until they launch one of them to find out if they were capable of it.
BECKEL: It's not to say that the rest of the world doesn't think that these things are dangerous --
KENNEDY: The rest of the world agreed with the treaty that we negotiated with Iran and they want to go in there and make as much money as they can.
BECKEL: The rest of the world did.
KENNEDY: So, therefore, they thought financial interest, so why are they going to --
BECKEL: The sanctions, the U.N. sponsored sanctions, and they worked.
FRANCIS: No, they didn't work at all. They didn't work. They were violating the sanctions and everybody else is offering how to economically, which normally, I agree with.
BECKEL: Anybody who thinks that we're wrong is not going to violate a damn thing so that when you're walking at 4:00 -- never mind.
GUILFOYLE: I do now.
BECKEL: But the point is, you have one country, us, and one tough leader and one tough tweet, and by itself, is not nearly as important to Iran.
GUILFOYLE: Well the followed up on it very quickly.
HILTON: But a lot of -- I think there's one thing is really underestimated in all this foreign policy discussion is just -- is the personal human aspect of it. And the fact that he set that approach, you're not going to get to that zero response that's diplomatically behind the scenes that you the people got used to from Obama. That assertiveness I think will change the whole dynamic.
KENNEDY: Also it doesn't have Valerie Jarrett shielding him from truly dealing with Iran. Iran no longer has that so it's going to be choice (ph).
GUILFOYLE: We're to get a quick reaction to taking (ph) Iran about Israel just with the settlement and your reaction to that.
KENNEDY: Yes. The White House is saying that they don't have a formal policy on the settlement so basically saying, don't build any new settlements. Israel knows that they have a renewed ally in the United States, but that doesn't mean carte blanche rather to build new settlements in the West Bank.
FRANCIS: I think his concern, the White House's concern on this front is we obviously back you but pushing forward and being so aggressive right now in this moment, you're not really helping your case, you're helping us with the rest of the world. You might want to take your foot off the gas. I don't know how well that would be received.
GUILFOYLE: Throttle back, Steve, what do you think?
HILTON: I thought it was great. I think it's a little consistent. I think it shows a pragmatic, deal making approach to things which is what he'd give us, which is based on the idea that to get what you want, you have to have leverage and you have to show strength. That's what he's doing and I think it's actuall really refreshing change from this diplomacy that may be the way the protocol is handled in the past and everyone is freaking out about it, but actually, it hasn't worked and it hasn't delivered. This approach, I think is more likely to get results.
GUILFOYLE: More of a business model approach, right. I mean, he's consistent with his style.
BECKEL: Business model approach that is yet and will not prove to be anything more than just another one of Donald Trump's temper tantrums. But the question now I have is, of all the things that Donald Trump has written and his little executive orders, has one thing changed? Not one. Not one. Except that little kids are being held in detention camps because they can't get into the United States because they happen to be Syrian refugees. Big, tough man.
GUILFOYLE: All right, Bob. Unfortunately, we do not have the next two hours to respond to Bob's statement. But up next, terror in Paris again. New developments on the thwarted attack in France, and President Trump's urgent message for Americans on the fight against radical Islamic extremism when we return.
HILTON: President Trump doubles down on his top foreign policy stance following a thwarted terror attack in France. A 29-year-old Egyptian man with two machetes shouting Allahu Akbar attacked four French soldiers guarding the Louvre Museum in Paris. One soldier is confined, taking down the attacker. He remains in the hospital.
President Trump then tweeted, "A new radical Islamic terrorist has just attacked in Louvre Museum in Paris. Tourists were locked down. France on edge again. Get smart, U.S." The president's deputy assistant, Dr. Sebastian Gorka weighed in on the attack.
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SEBASTIAN GORKA, TRUMP DEPUTY ASSISTANT: Whether it's the Berlin attack, the Nice attack, and now this the third attack in Paris, we want to make sure that these events in these jihadists because this man did shout Allah is the greatest, do not have a possibility of doing these kind of things here.
There seems to be a general sense in the mainstream media and amongst the chattering (ph) classes that they don't understand why the president was elected president. This was very much a national security election. The common sense Americans that make the back burner of this nation don't want us to suffer more terrorism, and that's why President Donald Trump was made the commander-in-chief.
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HILTON: So Bob, this comes in the context of the ongoing debate we're having over the executive orders last week and a travel ban. Now, the last time there was a terror attack in Paris, Chuck Schumer said that it might be necessary -- I think we got that for the viewers -- "It might be necessary to pause the refugee program." So, that's what he said the last time there's a terror attack in France. His position is totally different today. What do you think the change has done to?
BECKEL: Well, I'm not sure I understand what the decision is if you're talking about Paris here and you're talking this is the third one that we know about. It's bound to happen in other places in Europe because you all blew it by allowing too many people and with no vetting. I don't think what seems --
FRANCIS: That sounds like you agree with Donald Trump and his policy.
BECKEL: What? When I said --
FRANCIS: You're letting too many people in without vetting?
GUILFOYLE: That is what President Obama did and now the --
BECKEL: There also a strong -- here is another thing, can we just stop just for a second. You guys, please --
FRANCIS: Should we go to commercial? Or are we just chatting here?
BECKEL: Obama has now left office. Leave it alone. Now you got to defend - -
KENNEDY: -- President Obama, go after President Bush. Honestly, how many years did he take every public opportunity to malign --
BECKEL: I don't -- you tell me one thing he said.
HILTON: It's not about Obama.
GUILFOYLE: Oh my God.
KENNEDY: You actually have --
GUILFOYLE: A volume for every year, Bob, come on.
KENNEDY: Every time every subject, every opportunity he had to either take responsibility for something and look forward optimistically, he turned backward and talked about --
GUILFOYLE: Yes, and he's blaming him about the economy.
KENNEDY: I don't want people to do this now. I think people need to be forward looking, and I actually disagree with Sebastian Gorka. I don't think this was necessarily a referendum on national security. I think the election was more about economic security. And this is more than the third terrorist attack in France.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I do agree with you about that. But I just want to come back, because it's not about Obama. It's about the Democrats today who are going crazy about the idea of pausing the -- the refugee process. They're going crazy when Trump does it, but actually, a couple of years ago, they thought it was a good idea.
BECKEL: You know, politicians change their minds.
BECKEL: I don't know about yours, but ours, they certainly do. And by the way, was that guy, was he a Brit, that Gorka guy?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He, like me, interestingly, is Hungarian.
BECKEL: He's Hungarian.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am an immigrant twice over. My parents were immigrants to the U.K., and I'm an immigrant now here.
The other part of this that I feel very strongly about is that I really believe in immigration. I believe in helping refugees, but I don't think that that means that we should be giving up all control over who comes in.
GUILFOYLE: How about, yes, doing it responsibly? What is wrong with being certain, with actually vetting in a proper way. Yes, you want to be compassionate. Yes, this is a country built on immigrants. My parents came from other countries, as well.
The bottom line is, Bob, it makes all of us safe, including those that are trying to come in that are OK. You can't let bad people in that are going to do us harm. And especially when you see groups like al Qaeda, like ISIS, saying they're going to penetrate and infiltrate this process.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think he could win -- do you think he could win this argument? Or is he already winning it in most of America?
FRANCIS: See, I think this is evenly split like everything else in this country right now, and the response to what you're seeing with these terror attacks.
One side says, "We need to get tougher. We need to be firmer. We need to crack down. We need to make everybody safe."
The other side says, "We need to make them like us," that this is our fault, that we've alienated Muslims. And what Donald Trump is doing now is only making it worse in the sense that he's alienating regular peace-loving Muslims and turning them into jihadists. The other side doesn't think that's the case. That ship has sailed.
KENNEDY: Quickly -- can I just add something very, very quickly to that? I think people have kind of what Bob alluded to, a public position and a private position, particularly on the left. I think publicly they say, "Let's throw our borders wide open. Let's welcome as many immigrants as possible." But then privately they say, "But not the people who want to kill us."
GUILFOYLE: How about that?
BECKEL: One -- simply one--
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We can keep talking about it afterwards. We've got to go now.
BECKEL: We have to go? OK. I want to find that one person in the Paris attack who came in.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's something very important happening tonight--
FRANCIS: There's San Bernardino.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A programming note.
FRANCIS: San Bernardino shooter.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A programming note for tonight. Bob, it's not your turn. Martha MacCallum is up tonight, "The First 100 Days." She has a special, special audience show featuring experts who will break down the fact of what we've just been discussing, President Trump's extreme vetting executive order. That is tonight at 7 Eastern.
Up next, it's Super Bowl fever, except on my part, because I don't know anything about it.
FRANCIS: We'll help you. We're going to indoctrinate you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The big game kicks off this weekend, and our very own Greg Gutfeld joins us live from Houston, where all the gridiron excitement -- did I say that right?
KENNEDY: Oh, yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- is happening, next.
GUILFOYLE: Look, he's hiding his face.
BECKEL: God save the queen.
FRANCIS: Are you ready for some football? We are just two days away from the showdown at Super Bowl LI, where the Falcons will take on the Patriots, in case you didn't know that.
Tom Brady is going for a record-setting fifth ring with New England, while Atlanta is looking to win its first NFL title.
The big game kicks off on Sunday at 6:30 p.m. Eastern Time on the FOX broadcast network.
Greg Gutfeld has traveled all the way to Houston for the gridiron action, because he's a huge football fan.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, right.
FRANCIS: Greg, did you know that Americans inhale 1.3 billion chicken wings during the Super Bowl? How many have you had so far?
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: I haven't had any. But apparently, 50 percent of those chicken wings were inhaled by Michael Moore.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh.
GUTFELD: That's shocking to me. The -- you know, you brought up the -- Tom Brady going for his fifth ring. Here's an interesting fact. The NFL pays for 150 rings for the players. That is roughly the same number of K.G.'s engagement stockpile.
GUILFOYLE: I picked up a couple more.
BECKEL: We're not going to talk about that yet, Greg.
GUTFELD: Like you usually do.
GUILFOYLE: Yes. Exactly.
GUTFELD: I'm sorry.
GUILFOYLE: Only accepted two so far.
GUTFELD: But I've got to tell you, Houston is fantastic. The people here have been great. It's so refreshing to do something that has nothing to do with politics, as I was telling this dirtbag liberal while I was beating the crap out of him.
FRANCIS: Oh, boy.
BECKEL: You shouldn't pick on 9-year-old kids, Greg.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, terrible.
FRANCIS: That's pretty good.
GUTFELD: Here's an -- here's an interesting fact, Bob. There's no network coverage that exists of the first Super Bowl, because somebody actually taped over it with a soap opera. Do you think a guy did that, a sexist might ask? I wouldn't ask that.
BECKEL: It certainly was a sexist who did it.
Hey, Greg, have you--
BECKEL: -- do you get a sense down there among the people who follow this game closely, like you, of course, what -- how much the Patriots are going to win by? Is there a general sense of patriotism?
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.
GUTFELD: Yes, I put my ear to the ground. You know I played semipro football back in the `80s.
BECKEL: Yes. Yes, we know that. It was called Pop Warner's.
GUILFOYLE: The pee-wee league.
GUTFELD: The Milpitas Unicorns. That was an indoor league. It was an indoor league. There was just four of us in a basement. But it was still a game, a rough game.
I think people -- people are looking at perhaps an Atlanta upset.
KENNEDY: I am looking for an Atlanta upset.
Greg, it's Kennedy, and I wanted to ask you about one of the most pressing issues. It's actually a myth that takes over the country this time of year.
KENNEDY: And I want you to dispel it. There is a myth that the, quote- unquote, "Super Bowl flush" that happens--
FRANCIS: Oh, please.
KENNEDY: -- during the first commercial of the Super Bowl somehow disrupts municipal sewer systems throughout the land. Is that true or false, Greg?
BECKEL: That's a crappy question.
GUTFELD: This is an -- this is an urban legend.
GUILFOYLE: So funny.
GUTFELD: However, it is a statistical fact that during halftime is the -- you find the largest amounts of flushing across the country. And especially if you've, you know--
FRANCIS: How did we get to this?
GUTFELD: -- eaten something that -- like my ambrosia salad.
FRANCIS: Terrible. Let's go to Kimberly. Terrible, terrible. Please take it another direction.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, please. I know. He's even far away; and it still comes down to his intestines and whatnot, which are way troubled.
OK, Greg, so I understand that, besides those issues, also you've got a little bit of the flu there that's going around? Is there a virus that is now? And perhaps -- we want to make sure Tom Brady stays healthy.
KENNEDY: Go kiss him. Go lick his face, Greg! Lick Tom Brady!
GUILFOYLE: Lick him.
GUTFELD: There's a problem -- there's a problem with people in TV. They never take a sick day. They're afraid that, if they go home sick, someone will steal their job.
FRANCIS: That is true.
GUTFELD: Everybody keeps coming to work.
GUILFOYLE: You've been replaced by Kennedy, and she looks good.
GUTFELD: They infect -- they infect everybody.
By the way, an interesting fact. There are 76 footballs that are used during the Super Bowl.
FRANCIS: How many are deflated?
GUTFELD: You know where they get all the air?
GUILFOYLE: Yes. Have you got any footballs?
GUTFELD: Good point, but do you know where they get the air? Joe Scarborough.
GUILFOYLE: All right, we have to get to--
FRANCIS: He has a very big--
GUTFELD: They kill my punchlines. They kill them. I tell you.
KENNEDY: I'm sorry.
GUTFELD: I know -- I know--
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Wait, you've got to -- hang on a second, this is Steve the British guy, which I know sounds like some kind of animated character, but Steve the British guy wants to know why you call it football when it is clearly more like rugby?
GUTFELD: Well, here's the interesting thing. It is -- we invented this game, and it's an actual, real sport, because we use our hands.
However, I used to play soccer -- I believe it's called soccer where you come from, right?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That is true, but it's different.
GUTFELD: Yes. By the way, soccer is a wonderful sport. It's a wonderful sport, but it's not football.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We just don't get rings for winning it. I was interested in the rings.
GUTFELD: Yes, that is true.
GUILFOYLE: But I do love--
FRANCIS: You get the golden flute (ph), however.
KENNEDY: Yes, there you go.
GUTFELD: You find the best actors in soccer.
GUTFELD: Whenever something happens, they fall over and they grab their knee.
FRANCIS: Very true. Well, you've cleared everything up.
GUTFELD: They're all Colin Kaepernicks.
FRANCIS: Totally prepared for the game. Thank you so much for that. We really appreciate it. Stand by.
GUTFELD: My pleasure.
FRANCIS: Will Super Bowl LI turn political?
BECKEL: John Madden you ain't.
FRANCIS: We've got details on that. What do you think? Coming up.
KENNEDY: That is Lady Gaga, and she is just a dream come true. We are so pumped for Super Bowl LI.
BECKEL: Oh, yes.
KENNEDY: But there are signals the big game might turn political. Much focus has been on Patriots quarterback Tom Brady's friendship with President Trump. This morning, Mr. Trump revealed how he feels about apparently stealing the spotlight away from his pal.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: One of the things that I heard this morning watching the news was that, amazingly -- it's never happened before -- that politics has become a much bigger subject than the Super Bowl, getting into Super Bowl territory. Now they're saying that the politics is more interesting to people. So that's good.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KENNEDY: Is that good? We will see.
There are also signs that Lady Gaga might get political during her halftime performance. Great. Here she is yesterday.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
LADY GAGA, MUSICIAN: The only statements that I'll be making during the halftime show are the ones that I have been consistently making throughout my career. I believe in a passion for inclusion. I believe in the spirit of equality. And the spirit of this country is one of love and compassion and kindness. So my performance will uphold those philosophies.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUILFOYLE: All righty.
KENNEDY: We've got back with us from the Super Bowl live in Houston, it's Greg Gutfeld. So Greg, I have to ask you, you are there in Houston. You have said that your ear is to the pavement. How bated is the breath of Houstonians, who are so eagerly awaiting the political pronouncements from Lady Gaga?
GUTFELD: You know, if you -- here's the important point. If you listen to her message, there is absolutely nothing you can disagree with. And so therefore, it's actually a straw argument. She's saying, "I'm for inclusion and equality," as though the people that she's kind of angling at aren't. So if you are, say, for increased vetting, therefore, you are against inclusion; you are -- I don't know -- you're xenophobic.
So it's kind of like she's not really making a political statement, but in a way, she's creating a straw man that is a political statement. But who knows? Maybe she won't say anything.
FRANCIS: Hey, Greg, I just hope that, if she wears a meat outfit, it's chicken wings. Is there any sign that she could wear, like, a chicken wing cape? Or maybe, like, a chicken wing top or something? What do you think?
KENNEDY: Dip herself in a bathtub of wing sauce?
GUTFELD: That would -- being outside, that would just attract more birds. And it could be very ugly. I would advise against it.
GUILFOYLE: then Bob and I will compete again in our chicken wing eating contest. With Lady Gaga.
KENNEDY: I want to ask you about something, Bob, because this is a little bit troubling. We know that Tom Brady for a while had a "Make America Great Again" hat in his locker, as have many people here at FOX. And now, it is being made into a political issue with The Huffington Post screaming this headline: "Tom Brady's Politics are More Un-American Than Colin Kaepernick's Have Ever Been."
The New York Times: "The Uncomfortable Love Affair Between Donald Trump and the New England Patriots."
Does everything have to be political?
BECKEL: Of course, yes. With Donald Trump as president, of course you're going to get this. But let me put it this way. Brady -- you know, he's somebody now they're looking at carefully. He's undergone a number of concussions. And, you know, whether that contributes to his political whatever it is, I don't know.
FRANCIS: That was low.
BECKEL: Let me tell you something. He is a great quarterback.
GUILFOYLE: Deflate that one, Bob.
BECKEL: Deflate what?
GUTFELD: Walk it back, Bob.
BECKEL: You get so serious.
Greg, let me ask you a political question. I mean a football question.
BECKEL: How much -- how much do you think the Atlanta Falcons are going to blitz against the New England Patriots?
GUILFOYLE: Oh, come on.
BECKEL: What's wrong with that?
GUTFELD: I think if -- if Lady Gaga makes a political statement, there should be equal time, and we should parachute in Ted Nugent.
KENNEDY: And I think that everyone should stay for "One More Thing," because we're going to have some odd bets.
Now, as someone who has moved to this country, you have emigrated to the United States, what do you think of our Super Bowl fever? How odd is that you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think it's very inclusive. It's very kind. I love all those things. I'm very much looking forward to the halftime show. I hope that it will feature a wall. I think that after what she said--
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- if there is not a wall, I think that will be very disappointing.
GUILFOYLE: You gave her an idea, right? Knock down the wall. I just hope she sings. Just sing.
KENNEDY: She's got a beautiful voice.
GUILFOYLE: Just saying. No talking.
BECKEL: She's also got a great plastic surgeon.
GUILFOYLE: Then how about Tom Brady. Look, Tom Brady is a pro.
By the way, they can try and blitz all they want. The guy is great in the pocket, and it's not going to matter. The guy's a total winner.
And President Trump's relationship with the Patriots and with the Kraft family goes way back. And did you see on "FOX & Friends" this morning, Bob Kraft talked about his special relationship with the president, that he was one of five people there for him after his wife died and he was suffering from depression and really sad about it. And that he checked in on him every week for that first year. It's very nice.
KENNEDY: And now everyone will boycott the Patriots, as a result of that kindness.
GUILFOYLE: The Patriots -- and the Patriots are used to it, New England versus everyone else.
BECKEL: Are we going to have a prediction here?
FRANCIS: Go ahead, Bob. I would like to hear your prediction.
BECKEL: Atlanta, 31 and New England, 26.
KENNEDY: You know what? I think that's actually spot on. I'm not even going to take that bet.
GUILFOYLE: I'm going with the Patriots.
KENNEDY: We're going to discuss and put all of our thoughts on social media.
Greg, thank you so much.
And don't forget, don't miss "The Greg Gutfeld Show" from Super Bowl central. It's in Houston. Tomorrow night, live at 10 p.m. Eastern, 7 in the west.
And look what's coming up next. "One More Thing" is on the way. It is "The Five."
BECKEL: It's time now for "One More Thing" -- Kimberly.
GUILFOYLE: All right. Thank you, Bob.
As you noticed, today and throughout the day on the FOX News Channel, all the women wearing red. And my cohosts here today, Kennedy and Melissa Francis have joined me in wearing red today, and this is for the American Heart Association "Go Red for Women" movement and their fight against heart disease and stroke, which kills one woman every 80 seconds. In fact, it's the No. 1 killer for women in this country.
So the American Heart Association is working hard on their behalf to really eradicate this disease and create awareness. And we support them in that regard.
BECKEL: OK, it's my turn. And my turn finally, because when I was getting my back operations, everybody else had a book around this table, and they promoted it. And I couldn't promote from the hospital bed. So I want you all, because it's now in its second printing, it's called "I Should Be Dead," which is quite true, "My Life Surviving Politics, TV, and Addiction." It is not a book about politics and take a political view. It's a book about hopefully a little bit of redemption. Hopefully being able to live through getting shot once or twice and living through diseases.
FRANCIS: Good to know.
BECKEL: But it is something that I really wish you would look at. And don't look at it as something from a liberal Democrat, because it's not. It's really about finding faith and getting yourself back on the road away from addiction.
GUILFOYLE: All right. We're very proud of you, Bob. Congratulations on that.
FRANCIS: Welcome back, Bob.
GUILFOYLE: You put a lot of effort into writing this book.
BECKEL: Thank you.
GUILFOYLE: And we're proud of you and your recovery.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So can I mention my red socks? Which I did. I wasn't even coordinated, but I'm wearing red socks.
GUILFOYLE: You do have red socks. Bob has got a red tie.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So I was very excited to learn something this week, which was the song, the song that apparently started the whole hip-hop and rap movement, and here it is. "Good Times."
(MUSIC: "GOOD TIMES")
FRANCIS: And this was sampled for "Rapper's Delight."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Exactly. And Nile Rogers from Chic, who's on that song, told that story in an interview this week, about how in the late 1970s, that song led to the rappers creating -- started the whole thing.
FRANCIS: You learn something new every day.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There you go.
FRANCIS: Which leads right into mine.
BECKEL: Let's lose the music, please.
FRANCIS: Because I am celebrating a shout-out for Catholic Education Week, Catholic Schools Week. These are faces from Saint Stephen of Hungary right here in New York City. Catholic schools nurture so many hearts and minds and souls. Dedicated, selfless professionals that go out to support kids all around this country. It's a week that we take our hats off to them and say thank you so much for taking care of our children. Mine in particular. Look at these lovely faces. St. Stephen of Hungary School. We love you! Thank you!
GUILFOYLE: Very sweet. I love Catholic school.
KENNEDY: Which is all about degenerate gamblers, because if you know nothing about football, you can still lose a lot of money on the Super Bowl.
FRANCIS: Perfect segue from mine.
KENNEDY: Some of the weirdest bets: what color is Lady Gaga's hair going to be? Will Luke Brian be wearing blue jeans? What's the over-under on appearances of Gisele during the game? That's at 1 1/2. How many times will they say "gronk"? The over-under is three. So go ahead and pick your poison as you poison your soul.
BECKEL: There you go.
Listen, on behalf of Kimberly and myself, it's been a wonderful thing having you all here.
FRANCIS: Thank you.
BECKEL: We're glad to go international.
KENNEDY: Thank you, guys.
GUILFOYLE: Happy Friday.
BECKEL: And to have some fascists, some communists and a few other people. But you've been great, and we've enjoyed it very, very much. You come back. We'd like to see you.
All right. That's it for us.
GUILFOYLE: Good job, Bob.
BECKEL: Thanks for watching. We'll see you back here on Monday. "Special Report" is next.
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