This is a rush transcript from "The Five," February 2, 2017. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Kimberly Guilfoyle along with Bob Beckel, Eric Bolling, Lisa Boothe and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5:00 in New York City and this is "The Five."
The war of words between Iran and the Trump administration now escalating into action. Yesterday, the White House put Iran on notice after its recent ballistic missile test that violates U.N. resolutions. And just a short time ago, we learned that the United States is now expected to impose sanctions on the rogue nation and it could come as soon as tomorrow. Earlier today President Trump was asked if military action could be taken.
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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Nothing is off the table. I haven't eased anything.
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GUILFOYLE: All right. So this is the latest. It reminds me of a song that we used to (INAUDIBLE), remember.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: So, the supreme leader Ayatollah Khomeini said that his country would not yield to useless U.S. threats from an "inexperienced person" over its ballistic missile program. But then I went back and looked at the resolution. There's a U.N. resolution 2231 and it says this, "it calls upon Iran not to undertake any activity related to ballistic missiles designed to be capable of delivering nuclear weapons," which they were, that missile was. And this line, very important, "including launches using such ballistic missile technology."
They've clearly violated this U.N. resolution. There is grounds for those sanctions and I hope every member of the security council gets behind the United States sanctions to Iran because of that violation.
GUILFOYLE: And this is really a pivotal moment in terms of relations between the United States and Iran. He's got to send a strong message but he also has to back it up.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: That's true. He's definitely marking his territory. He is like a dog with an enlarged prostate. He's just all over the planet, and to what end. The question I ask is like, is Trump being a jerk on behalf of himself or on behalf of the country? Because that's important to -- I see being a jerk as being a good thing.
GUILFOYLE: We know.
GUTFELD: It's like hiring a lawyer. If someone says that your lawyer rhymes with the word vasmole (ph), that's a good thing. As long as Trump is being tough to protect America, then we should be -- we shouldn't be too panicky about this. This is what he does.
When he says, you know, he's not putting all his cards on the table, he's throwing the deck out the window. And it's about time that the world kind of sits there and wonders, what's this guy going to do next, because that's what we've been dealing with in the past, you know, three or four decades with the world.
BOB BECKEL, CO-HOST: But what he's not going to do is what he said that "I'm not taking anything off the table." We are not going to invade Iran. The idea of sanctions is a good one. I mean, Iran has had sanctions in the past. It continues to break those sanctions. Yes, it's bad thing that they did this. And what is he going to do about it? He's going to talk tough about it and that's going to be about the end of it.
GUTFELD: Maybe he'll make a deal out of it.
BECKEL: Deal for what?
GUTFELD: Well they're supposed to fight ISIS.
BOLLING: You're missing something here. The whole reason behind the Iran nuclear deal that they put together was because the Iranians were hurting by the U.S. sanction, the financial sanctions we put on Iran. Then we lifted them because we did a stupid deal with them and now Trump says, "No, no, no. You just violated the terms of a U.N. resolution. We're going to put new sanctions on you."
They are going to hurt. And by the way, your point, why is Trump doing this? But when Khomeini -- the supreme leader comes out and says Trump is useless. He used useless and baseless and he's an inexperienced person, well, I'm not sure you want to rattle that cage. I mean it's the dog you don't want to poke too much
GUILFOYLE: Don't poke the cage.
LISA BOOTHE, GUEST CO-HOST: But Iran is testing a new administration so President Trump has to be tough and has to come down on them. And look what's happened since we lifted sanctions on Iran to the tune over $100 billion. We've seen increased provocation in the Persian Gulf, that they've been harassing our U.S. naval ships.
This isn't the first time they've tested a nuclear ballistic missile that flies in the face of the U.N. resolutions. They've done this before and so they're testing -- what do they do immediately after the deal? They put our sailors on their knees and shot it for propaganda video.
So President Trump should act tough and he should be prepared to follow through, and considering the individuals that he has stacked the deck with in his administration including General Mattis, I feel comfortable that he's going to follow through with the appropriate measures and tough measures with that.
BECKEL: You know, sanctions only work if you get the world's community to join in those sanctions. It's happened the first time around. What happened with those first sanctions, it didn't have anything to do with the ballistic missile and it had everything to do with developing a nuclear warhead.
One thing is for sure, the Nuclear Regulatory Administration has said unequivocally as it boast (ph) around the world, that Iran stopped the program, they weren't going forward. Now, why do they have this missile? Because they want to eventually put a nuclear warhead on it.
GUILFOYLE: But that's why -- that's why there should be seriousness.
BECKEL: That's right. There should be seriousness (ph). That means that Trump has got to sit down with world leaders together and say all right, let's go to the U.N., let's get sanctions on these guys again and let's see what happens. I don't think Trump is the kind of guy who's got the diplomacy to do that.
GUTFELD: But Iran and America have one thing in common, that is the ISIS threat. And that is one avenue that I keep thinking is going to be opening soon. I think there is something else going on here because Iran has gone after ISIS in Iraq. They've deployed the Revolutionary Guard. There is a way to work this thing out because if -- why not go after ISIS has always been what Trump said.
GUILFOYLE: I'm sure they want to do that but you also have to be very firm with this because the missiles that he's talking about, they didn't just test ballistic missiles, they tested cruise missiles, where it's much more difficult to detect. They can fly lower. They can evade enemy radar. Travel distance between 2,000 to 3,000 kilometers. This is a serious, serious violation.
BOLLING: Think about this for a second, Bob. You make a very good point. Yes, the rest of the community, the international community has to get on board. That's why it doesn't matter if they violated or not the U.S. deal that we made with Iran bilaterally.
It matters that they violated this U.N. resolution that they weren't going to do this. Now you have cause for China, Russia, France, the United State to say you know what, consolidated sanctions against Iran.
BOOTHE: But the rest of the world also looks to the United States to be a leader. So it does matter what President Trump says. He's also a new administration and rhetoric matters as well. What we've seen from President Obama is weak -- Bob, if you punched me in the arm and I said I'd kindly like you to stop punching me in the arm or if you punch me in the arm and I said if you punched me in the arm you're going to pay for it, right. Words matter and that's going to be a deterrence to you. And then if you punch me in the arm and then I punch you in the face --
GUILFOYLE: These are bad examples.
BOOTHE: -- with that action
BOOTHE: -- you're going to engage with me differently than you were before.
BECKEL: If you count on that.
GUILFOYLE: An advice to counsel don't answer that, Bob.
BECKEL: The point is this is about -- it's not a deal between the United States and Iran. It was a deal between six countries.
GUILFOYLE: Right, that's a lot of things.
BECKEL: But you're right about this. He ought to be going to the Security Council, that's what it's there for. And they clearly violated the sanctions. The Russians and the Chinese have a very difficult time vetoing that in the Security Council.
BECKEL: That's the only way you're going to get the world watching.
GUILFOYLE: All right, I've got to move on here.
BECKEL: Yes, but he had to say a word about a security deal (ph).
GUILFOYLE: Well Bob, Iran is just one of the national security issues the president has been dealing with and he's made it clear that protecting the homeland is his top priority. Earlier today, he defended a tough approach and answered critics who have questioned his recent handling of these issues including his dealings with other foreign leaders.
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TRUMP: The world is in trouble, but we're going to straighten it out, OK? That's what I do. I fix things.
When you hear about the tough phone calls I'm having, don't worry about it. Just don't worry about it. They're tough. We have to be tough. It's time we're going to be a little tough folks. We're taken advantage of by every nation in the world virtually. It's not going to happen anymore. It's not going to happen anymore.
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GUILFOYLE: And at the National Prayer Breakfast this morning he made a powerful case for why we need to closely examine who we are leading into our country.
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TRUMP: Our nation has the most generous immigration system in the world, but these are those and there are those that would exploit that generosity to undermine the values that we hold so dear. There are those who would seek to enter our country for the purpose of spreading violence or oppressing other people based upon their faith or their lifestyle. We want people to come into our nation but we want people to love us and to love our values, not to hate us and to hate our values.
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GUILFOYLE: OK, what did you think about, Greg?
GUTFELD: Well, I mean, who cares about tough phone calls? No one's feelings are getting hurt here. Australians are tough people. If safety is your primary concern, a nice guy is not your primary requirement. What's the point of having a doctor with a good bedside manner if he can't save a single patient?
I think that like, it's not important whether you want extreme measures when you need them. No kid wants to wear a helmet when they're riding a bike. It takes your parents to say put on a damn helmet. So nobody likes these measures but you don't have to like them. You need them. And I think that's point that he's making.
GUILFOYLE: All right, Bolling, what about this? Strong statement.
BOLLING: Yes, a lot of strong statements and the point I think is very, very important, Donald Trump ran and won on being a somewhat non-- interventionist. So, with the sanctions, Bob, I think this is important that he does this now. He gets aggressive using the sanctions against people who he feels are violating deals we've made and violating the U.N. resolutions but he does it in a way that it hurts them economically.
I don't think there's anywhere in any of the statements were he said "or were going to come after you or we're going to bomb you or we're going to take out your fleet or any we're going to do anyone of these things." Financial sanctions work. Iran would much rather have a war than have a financial mess -- financial sanctions slapped on them by the global community.
BECKEL: He did say "take nothing off the table" when asked that question. But let me just say this. I haven't been to several of these national -- (INAUDIBLE) this one. This is exactly is the most inappropriate time to use it as a forum to talk about what your policies are, which I still don't understand or most of the world understand but --
GUTFELD: It's also one of the more fun prayer breakfasts I've ever seen.
GUTFELD: A good preacher combines humor with policy, humor and belief. What's wrong with a little --
BECKEL: Did you end up --
GUILFOYLE: Why is he --
BOOTHE: But to that point though, he did talk about how the freedom of religion is under attack, how religion is under attack and then it's absolutely true. There is a study out from 2016 alone that Christians continue to be the most persecuted religious group -- 90,000 Christians were murdered last year alone, and the bulk of that came from radical Islamic extremists. He touched upon that. We did talk about these important issues to religious people in the country as well.
GUILFOYLE: It does tie in because extreme vetting --
BECKEL: Certainly Muslim clerics over there.
GUILFOYLE: Well, Bob, I mean you're saying it's inappropriate. It's interesting.
BECKEL: I think it's really important to talk about your sanctions plan in front of the National Prayer Breakfast, but you know, it's Trump. I mean, I'm not surprised. He says a lot and --
GUILFOYLE: Well, if that's the worst thing you could say about it then you have no objection to actually the concept. You just object to the forum.
BECKEL: I want to see one of these things actually happening, what he talks about.
BOLLING: Sanctions work, brother. You know this.
BECKEL: I know sanctions work. When they were put on and Obama lead the way to get them put on, and when we took them off, you're right, they took advantage of it. They'll do it again. But you got to get them on, and that means you've got to have a diplomatic touch with people around the world who agree including the Chinese and the Russians to not cast a veto --
BOLLING: Not a good reason. There it is right on a silver platter.
BECKEL: Let's hope so. I think you're right.
BOOTHE: He was also worried about his immigration statement. I mean we are the most generous nation in the world when it comes to a legal immigration -- one million people come here legally per year which is more than double on any other nation. So, we are incredibly generous when it comes to legal immigration.
GUILFOYLE: That's true. People don't want to focus on that. All right, hold it because we've got a commercial break.
Ahead, a violent attack on free speech at so called birthplace of the free speech movement, U.C. Berkeley. President Trump is now threatening to withhold funds from the school. More on that, next.
GUTFELD: In Berkeley last night, masked cowards with metal poles beat one guy unconscious, smashed store front windows, set fires, attacked cars and drivers claiming it was over at speaking appearance of Milo Yiannopoulos, a gay, Jewish Trump supporter. I bet ten bucks MSNBC calls the riots mostly peaceful.
As the disguised thugs attacked women, threw bricks and fireworks at the cops, actress Debra Messing tweeted support and director Judd Apatow tweeted anti-Trump crap, all far away from the violence. I wonder if the feel differently if the rioters have made to their Tony homes.
Now the media keep saying protesters, but they're really hired ghouls who seize any opportunity for organized violence. This scum and their supporters cause violence to spread fear. They believe only their speech should be protected, not yours. And if you disagree, you will get hurt.
As you watch these emasculated males roam in packs, cheered by smarmy celebrities, you realize one thing about these cowards: They never seek a fair fight. It's why they attack property and unarmed women.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think the people watching should look at the people protesting and look at what color they have wearing. It certainly is not red.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you surprised? Ma'am?
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GUTFELD: Do you support that, Ms. Messing?
But it's not about Milo, it's about Donald Trump. As Apatow tweeted, "This is just the beginning. When will all the fools who are still supporting Trump realize what is at stake?" Translation: You fools deserve the violence. And to that I say hooray for the Second Amendment. These beta male fascists might swing a pole, but we go to the range.
GUILFOYLE: All right. Tough guy.
BOLLING: Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.
GUTFELD: Exactly. Trump supporters, I don't think they'll react calmly to you and your statements.
BOLLING: Don't bring a little pole to a gunfight.
GUTFELD: I'm sorry man, you're going to have a revolution? You better be for the second amendment. That's the bottomline.
BOLLING: Can I just get and say this out, so, these free speech advocates, the tolerant lot (ph) at Berkeley now are against the hate speech that Milo may bring, but they're for rioting, they're for violence, they're for bodily injury, they're for breaking windows, and they're for bigotry towards Milo itself.
BOLLING: Aren't they tolerant.
GUTFELD: No, it's true. The fact is, KG, if you don't like Milo's speech, then you should be marching for him because that is free speech. You're supposed to be -- free speech isn't about speech you like. It's about speech you hate.
GUILFOYLE: Right. So they are just there missing just like a common sense chip or an intelligence chip or all of the above, and then you see how they cover their faces. They're cowards. And then they pepper sprayed a woman in the face and beat another man down almost unconscious on the ground. You see the pepper spraying incident there. I mean, this is -- it's so outrageous. I'm so disappointed. I'm about to edit my resume and just delete U.C. system (ph) off it --
GUTFELD: I know. I'm a Berkeley grad.
GUILFOYLE: I know you did, wow, but I --
GUTFELD: I don't know how I made it through.
KIMBERLY: Which is also not doing well these days.
BECKEL: You used to break windows and stuff out there, didn't you?
GUTFELD: No, of course not.
BECKEL: Oh, you didn't, OK. First of all can we straighten one thing out.
GUILFOYLE: He couldn't reach it --
BECKEL: Eric says it's not unusual to say and the left and the liberals and look at them, these do not represent the liberals.
BOLLING: Don't know about that step as conservative view there, right there.
BECKEL: No, that's not the point. They are anarchists.
BECKEL: Wait a second. You cannot condemn all liberals because of this. Donald Trump says he's going to cut off funding for Berkeley. Number one, he can't do that. Number two, when he says that, Berkeley was the one who invited this guy. If it were up to me I would have said let the guy speak because whatever he's going to say, it was going to be so outrageous and so pro-Trump that everybody would be turned off anyway.
GUTFELD: So you are on our side? You should disown your side.
BECKEL: That's not my side right there.
BOOTHE: But OK, one, can you imagine --
GUILFOYLE: Yes, it's your side Bob.
BOLLING: Your side of the fence. You may not believe it thought but it's your side.
BOOTHE: But can you guys imagine if this was happening at Tea Party rallies or the March for Life and the way that that would be covered? And that's a big problem here, is the way that these riots, not protest, are being covered because the second that they are called protest, the behavior is being excused because protest is covered under the freedom of speech.
But riots and criminal activity is not. And so it needs to be labeled riots because this is criminal activity. These individuals should be called thugs. They should be called criminals.
GUILFOYLE: They should be prosecuted. Outrageous.
BOOTHE: They should be prosecuted again, to which KG would know very well. But they should be prosecuted.
GUILFOYLE: But who is the head of the U.C. system? Janet Napolitan. How interesting.
GUTFELD: The mayor.
GUILFOYLE: Yes. And she just --
GUTFELD: The mayor of Berkeley didn't do anything but like tweet.
GUILFOYLE: She was head of Homeland Security. Wow.
BOLLING: Do you wonder? Because Milo is associated with Breitbart, right. You wonder if some of this has to do with getting back at Breitbart.
GUTFELD: Oh, of course, and Bannon and Arthur (ph). I do think it's organized. And I mean, you know, is it Soros? Who knows? But how are they so well-organized ahead of time, you know, to get on buses, to go places. Gee, I wonder where the money comes from.
BECKEL: The same people who show up at every one of these rallies. A lot of these are the Wall Street people. These guys --
BECKEL: And they fund it. I think you make a very good point.
BOOTHE: Oh my god, Bob is saying I'm making a good point.
BECKEL: No, no, no. You're making a good point. You're making a good point because these are not protesters. Protesters are on my side who protest this ridiculous right wing --
BOOTHE: Or on the right side protesting for a life with the march of pro life.
BECKEL: No, but these people ought to be arrested. They ought to be prosecuted and let's get them off the streets so that Eric has no --
BOLLING: But they've' gotten into --
BOLLING: -- logically with your side than the other side.
BECKEL: You think I am bitter or what?
BOLLING: The Breitbart side is a great --
GUILFOYLE: No, they'd break opposition.
BOLLING: They're selling a t-shirt about free speech. It's fantastic, and they're the selling. The pitch line is "get punished by the tolerance crowd in style."
BOOTHE: I think it's pretty sweet (ph).
GUILFOYLE: How ironic.
GUTFELD: Judd Apatow deleted that tweet and said it was vague. You think he would have, you know, excused that if it came from us. He's an idiot.
BOOTHE: But is the reason was its vague.
GUTFELD: Yes, it was vague. It was too vague. And then Sarah Silverman on twitter is calling for a military coup. She thinks that the government will be overthrown once the military agrees with Hollywood. She's actually advocating a violent act against a democratically elected president. It's insane.
BOLLING: Because she lost. Because her side lost.
BOLLING: She was a Hillary supporter.
GUILFOYLE: That's your team again, Bob.
BECKEL: Yes, she's calling for anarchy but you guys were calling for anarchy when Obama was president.
GUILFOYLE: No, we did not.
BOOTHE: We were talking what Madonna and her irresponsible -- blowing up the White House.
BECKEL: It just so happens that those people all happens to be on the left, but listen --
GUTFELD: But wait, bringing back "Will & Grace." So this is one reason why you should never watch it because Debra Messing is --
BOOTHE: Oh wow, you are calling for a boycott?
GUTFELD: This guy's writings have been racist. They've been -- were also right wing. Let him talk and people will show you exactly who's around Donald Trump.
GUILFOYLE: By the way, it was paid -- sold out, just so you know.
BECKEL: I know. I know that a lot of people who want to hear that crap.
GUTFELD: So the first writer who gets shot will get a statue. How about that?
GUIILFOYLE: All right, well, that was a little --
GUTFELD: A little strong? I don't care. I don't care. They don't do this in the countryside or with their farms because they know it won't, well, they won't get any press but they know what will happen.
BOLLING: It cost too much to ship those people there, for Soros.
GUILFOYLE: No subway.
GUTFELD: We got a timeline on when the Trump administration expects the wall on the Mexican border to be complete. You might be surprised. Will you? Really?
GUILFOYLE: Two years.
BOLLING: The Trump administration is going to build that wall and it's going to be finished sooner than most of us might have expected. Here's Homeland Security secretary John Kelly in an exclusive interview with Fox News.
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JOHN KELLY, SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY: They will build it where it's need first as identified by the men and women who work the border, and then we're filling in as time goes on.
Any discussion about, you know, the protection of our southwest border involves discussion clearly of physical barriers but also of technological, you know, sensors, things like that, and it's just got to be -- it's a layered approach. I really hope to have it done within the next two years.
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BOLLONG: Mexico of course is going to pay for that wall, that I assure you. But in the meantime, Congress will take care of the tab. Here's Speaker Paul Ryan.
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PAUL RYAN, SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: We have already authorized this, meaning the law was passed almost 10 years ago. I mean, we will give the financing to Secretary Kelly to go build the wall and the border security plan. So, it's really up to them as to how fast they can execute this policy. I think that's great. He's the kind of guy who can get this sort of thing done. He will have the funding to do it and he already has the authorization to do it.
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BOLLING: All right, KG --
GUILFOYLE: Get it done.
BOLLING: Get it done. Two years.
GUILFOYLE: I love it. And I love General Kelly, who you know I'm a big fan of -- he was describing the wall and talking about part of it is going to be the transparent and there's going to be all these different aspects to it including fiber aspects and really incredible in terms of the technology. So he has a clear vision about it. He really wants to get it done. He said he wants to get it done within two years. And this is a man that when he put his mind to something, it's going to happen.
BOLLING: Greg, you can basically do anything in any amount of time with --
BOLLING: With money, right.
GUTFELD: Right, that's true.
BOLLING: Mexico is going to pay.
GUTFELD: OK, I don't know about that. Wait, but the days of immigration and national security being separate issues is over. Terrorists married to technology blending with refugees required a silver (ph) rethink about, you know, our borders. Having said that, no wall stopped 9/11. So the point is, terrorists think of new ways to kill us.
There'll be bio terror, cyber terror, there'll be dirty nukes. So build the wall but also go after the stuff that transcends walls, you know, this should just be one of many endeavors that you participate in which I'm pretty sure do well.
GUILFOYLE: That's what they're going to do, yes.
BOLLING: Hey Bob.
BOLLING: We're going to get a wall after all.
BECKEL: Yes. I'll tell you, I'm a big fan of Kelly's, too, but the chance of that being done in two years is about the chance of him becoming a transvestite. That ain't going to happen. I mean, it is just one of those things you hear in the Trump administration. Do you know how big that area is?
BOLLING: It's 1,977 miles, plus or minus.
BECKEL: In two years, are you kidding? You'd have to go to China and do a deal and get their wall and bring it over.
BOLLING: You know, if you spend enough money you can do anything in two years.
GUILFOYLE: Bob, you're so wrong.
BOOTHE: Greg is right. Immigration and national security are one and the same. I mean, customs has apprehended several members of terrorist organizations along the southern border.
And ironically, President Trump can use the 2006 law. That, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Dianne Feinstein, Ron Wyden and Bill Nelson all voted for then, and now they're singing a completely different tune.
But the question is going to be the funding aspect of this, because it's got to get done in Congress and in Senate, where Republicans only have 52 seats. So I think the funding is the question but as far as the existing wall, the Democrats actually...
GUILFOYLE: They have it -- they have it set aside.
BOLLING: No, wait, wait, wait. The Ryan -- now, the Ryan said it's going to be paid for initially by us. It's there. The money is there.
BECKEL: That's not what I heard on the campaign trail.
BOLLING: It's there. You know...
GUILFOYLE: Yes, but guess what? Who cares? Get it done. Build it.
BOLLING: Even before the election, he did. He said they'll -- we'll pay for it first, and they'll pay us back. There are so many ways to make them pay us back. A ton of ways.
BECKEL: Like what?
BOLLING: You don't think they're going to pay?
BECKEL: Hell, no, they're not going to pay. No politician in that -- in that country can stand up and say, "Let's pay for this wall." Are you kidding me?
BOLLING: I have a couple ideas.
BECKEL: By the way, this is the first year that more undocumented people left the United States then came into the United States.
GUTFELD: Why is that?
BOLLING: Use the workers to build a wall very quickly. That's one way they can help pay for the wall. Another way is with that oil thing that we talked about many times.
Final thoughts, anyone? Are we good?
GUTFELD: I'm all right, I guess.
BECKEL: Have the Mexican workers? Are they going to be documented or undocumented?
GUTFELD: Sell California.
BOLLING: On that side of the wall, they could be undocumented. On this side, they've got to be documented.
GUTFELD: Sell California to Mexico. Use that money for the wall.
BOOTHE: I support that.
GUILFOYLE: How much would we get? How much would we get for California?
GUTFELD: You could probably get -- you could probably get a trillion dollars for California, right? You get Judd Apatow. You get -- you got...
BOOTHE: Sarah Silverman.
GUTFELD: ... Sarah Silverman.
GUILFOYLE: One of my ex-husbands.
GUTFELD: One of your ex-husbands.
GUILFOYLE: We're good.
BOLLING: Throw in parts of New York City, not the state but the city. Maybe Seattle. Would that be...
BOOTHE: Yes, I think that's fair.
BOLLING: All right, it's been less than 48 hours since Trump -- President Trump announced his Supreme Court pick, and the left seems to be calling for an all-out war over judge Neil Gorsuch. Democrats are determined to block his confirmation, but can they really pull it off? I can pretty much guarantee they'll lose that battle. But my friend here Bob says, "Bolling, not so fast." Next.
GUILFOYLE: Bob, did you really say that?
BECKEL: President Trump's Supreme Court nominee was back on the Hill today for a second round of meetings with lawmakers. I haven't had a chance yet to share my thoughts on the selection of Neil Gorsuch for the highest court in the land. I'll begin by saying I share the concerns of my fellow Democrats.
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SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN (D), CALIFORNIA: This Congress needs to stand on its own. We are a separate branch of government, and I don't want to see the Senate of the United States bow down to an executive demand like this.
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY), MINORITY LEADER: Given that record, I have very serious doubts that Judge Neil Gorsuch is up to the job.
SEN. ELIZABETH WARREN (D), MASSACHUSETTS: For more than a decade, he has twisted himself into a pretzel to make sure that the rules favor giant companies over workers and individual Americans.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is not a normal consideration. This is a seat that was stolen from the former President Obama.
REP. NANCY PELOSI (D-CA), MINORITY LEADER: The president has said as far as back as June, he saw a list of people who met the standard for the far right. He made that commitment, which he honored in the worst possible way.
BECKEL: You know, it is true that Obama's nominee was stolen by the Republicans, who played -- they didn't play by the rules. They just flat- out lied. Well, Mitch McConnell, what are you going to say?
But here's the thing that I don't understand about the Democrats. Is you pick out people who are obviously going to be against this guy. But in fact, there are a lot of Democrats who I think are thinking very seriously about voting for him, and I'll tell you why. Because out -- there's a lot -- there's 18 of them up for reelection in 2018. And they're worried about their votes back home, No. 1.
No. 2, this guy, despite his politics, which are terrible; his writing, his opinions, which are terrible; he has been a very good judge in the sense of being a conservative judge.
Here's the big problem for Democrats. The base out there in the country are screaming, I mean screaming for a "no" vote on this. It's making it very, very difficult. They're running way ahead of the party itself -- Eric.
BOLLING: They -- they can scream all they want, and that's cogent comments that they're making. But it's wrong. It won't matter what they say, because they can always go, thanks to Harry Reid, 2013. They can use the nuclear option. They don't even have to do it. I mentioned this yesterday.
GUTFELD: The Harry option.
BOLLING: The Harry option. I think what they really should do is -- forget waiting for a filibuster and then using the Harry option, do it preemptively. Do a rule change right now. "You Democrats have already said you're going to filibuster." Go ahead and do it, and if they don't like it this time, do it again to them the next time, whether it's Ruth Bader Ginsburg or Justice Kennedy, either one of those retiring. Then do it to them again.
GUILFOYLE: What about the fat that eight or nine out of the 10 Democrats that are up for reelection in red states have already signaled that they are going to support?
BOLLING: Well, eight gets it to them.
GUILFOYLE: Big problems for you, Bob.
BOLLING: Six, but eight, they don't even need it, yes.
GUILFOYLE: I'm telling you, Bob. It's a problem.
BECKEL: It could have been a lot worse. There's a lot of right-wing kooks out there, judges. He's not one of them. So I mean, if we have to take one, let's take him.
GUILFOYLE: Bob. There we go.
BOOTHE: Here's the thing. The base of the Democratic Party doesn't really matter here. What matters here are those 10 Democrats running in states where Trump won in red states, five of which Trump won by double digits.
You look at states like West Virginia, Trump won by 42 points.
Further, a lot of those same people that we just showed actually unanimously supported him to the 10th Circuit in 2006, including Chuck Schumer as well as Feinstein, who both were speaking in opposition to him.
Further, I have some reading material for you that I recommend.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, he'll get on that.
BOOTHE: An editorial from the Wall Street Journal that talks about the myth of the stolen seat and talks about that it's actually Vice President Joe Biden and Senator Chuck Schumer who set the precedent for not nominating [SIC] a Supreme Court justice in a president's final year.
Further, the only other time in recent history where there's been a filibuster attempt for the Supreme Court was by the Democratic Party, led by President Obama, 2006 against Justice...
GUTFELD: Wait, Lisa, if that reading material for Bob does not have a centerfold, he will not read it.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, let me tell you about the shot of him reading that.
BOOTHE: I can draw some pictures.
GUTFELD: He's not going to read it.
BECKEL: It will be fine.
GUILFOYLE: Include some selfies, maybe.
BECKEL: Those 18 people. Let's not -- let's not underestimate what the base means out there. Remember that about -- only about 60 percent of the people who turned out to vote voted in a presidential year. Always is the case. And the people who are the people who don't turn out are people who are like Trump voters. A lot of the -- well, you'll see a lot of them...
BECKEL: ... in various places, IGA (ph) stores and places.
GUTFELD: Of course, because Bob, they're...
BECKEL: No, they're not. They're thoughtful people.
GUTFELD: Yes, yes, you're going to step in it. I can see it coming.
GUILFOYLE: It's about to happen.
GUTFELD: What do you mean by this?
BOLLING: Get out of his way.
GUILFOYLE: Please, give him a clear path. Keep going, Bob.
GUTFELD: These are your people, Bob. You have more in common with Trump supporters then you do with the people out on the streets of Berkeley.
BECKEL: Well, that's for sure. Those people are thugs and they're criminals, and they should be in jail. They are not representative of the liberal...
GUTFELD: But this is -- politics. It's not about -- you even, at the beginning, you say "stolen election." It's not about policy. It's about payback. People want to get back at this guy, because you know, they feel they got it stolen.
GUILFOYLE: Well, that's why they'll be hypocrites. The guy they supported before...
GUTFELD: For once, a Republican stole something.
BOOTHE: But it's also important -- OK, but it's also important to look at what the people out there are saying among the Democratic Party. There are currently eight Democrats that say that Gorsuch needs a hearing and also a vote.
And also if you look at the different -- the only people out there that are talking about a filibuster are the Jeff Merkley's of the world in a state like Oregon because all he has to answer to is that progressive base. If you look at what Tester is saying, if you look at what Heitkamp is saying, if you look at what the Manchins of the world are saying, they're saying a dramatically different tune. You just need those eight Senate Democrats to break a filibuster.
BECKEL: And my guess if they're going to get them. they want to have a hearing. The Republicans -- and McConnell who was a guy who's strained with the truth, to say the least.
BOOTHE: Harry Reid was so honest.
BECKEL: They were -- excuse me. At least Harry Reid allowed people to have hearings.
BOLLING: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Harry Reid is the one who changed the rules.
GUILFOYLE: It's the opposite.
BECKEL: Having hearings, at a minimum. The Republicans were too afraid to let Garland have a hearing. Why? Because they were scared punks.
BOLLING: So we should have the hearing, then?
BOLLING: Wait. You just made the case for having a hearing for Gorsuch.
GUILFOYLE: This is what happens when you let him go.
BECKEL: I said we should allow him to have hearings. Democrats are all for it. Republicans refused to have that happen before.
BOLLING: But now this group has been flipped, and now Democrats...
BECKEL: Well, you have people who actually follow democratic rules as opposed to liars who know how the system...
GUILFOYLE: He's going to get in, and then Ginsburg or Kennedy is going to step down. And then Hardiman is going to go in, who's a little more moderate. And you guys are going to have a hard time with that.
BECKEL: When is -- when is McConnell going to retire? Does anybody know?
GUTFELD: I don't know.
BECKEL: Well, I've got to tease? OK.
GUILFOYLE: Mitch is in it for the long haul.
BOOTHE: I was thinking about McConnell. I was about to fall asleep.
The confirmation battle is over for Rex Tillerson. Our new secretary of state addressed his employees, those that are left, for the first time today. Hear what he told them, next.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.
BOOTHE: Well, welcome back. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson was sworn in last night after several Senate Democrats crossed party lines to help him get confirmed.
Today he addressed his new employees at the State Department, and he offered this powerful pledge.
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REX TILLERSON, SECRETARY OF STATE: When I wake up each morning, the very first thing I asked myself is, are all of our people safe? The safety of every single member of our State Department family, regardless of where he or she has posted, is not just a priority for me. It's a core value. And it will become a core value of this department.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BOOTHE: And the former ExxonMobil CEO also told his team how much he will be relying on them.
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TILLERSON: Well, my first day's here. I'm on the job. Hi, I'm the new guy. As such, I will depend on the expertise of this institution. You have accumulated knowledge and experience that cannot be replicated anywhere else. Your wisdom, your work ethic and patriotism is as important as ever. As your secretary, I will be proud to draw upon all these qualities in my decision-making.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BOOTHE: Well, you know, he is the new guy, Eric. And obviously, a former CEO, multinational company. Hundreds of billions of dollars in revenue. What kind of -- how do you think that will benefit him and sort of his approach to international...?
BOLLING: Here's what I think. I saw that guy come out, and I'll tell you. You know the term "boss"? This guy is a boss. I mean, he just commanded respect. He's confident. And it's a testament to Trump's leadership to picking a cabinet that is as strong as Rex Tillerson, Jeff Sessions, and the rest of them when they finally get confirmed. And thankfully, he's -- our senior diplomat is confirmed now.
BOOTHE: If they finally get confirmed. And Bob, at this point President Obama had more than double cabinet officials confirmed. So why such obstructionism from your party?
BECKEL: Well, it's not really obstructionism. In some cases, they haven't turned in their papers; they haven't turned in their tax returns, things that are supposed to be turned in. So they said, just bring your stuff in and then we'll have a vote on you.
GUILFOYLE: Bob, come on.
BECKEL: Let me just say this about Tillerson. That was the exactly the right mood to set with the State Department. I mean, they have had -- people have not paid much attention to this, but they have had -- they've been bleeding diplomats who have quit and walked away from the State Department.
GUILFOYLE: Good. We don't want them there anyway. Benghazi? And Benghazi employees.
BECKEL: I worked in the State Department for a while, and I can tell you these were the management people. And they were very important.
But I think he hit the right tone. Whether he'll be a good secretary of state or not will depend on whether Trump sells out to Russia.
BOOTHE: And Kimberly, what do you think of the tone? And what are your thoughts from watching his first day there?
GUILFOYLE: I like him a lot. I like his wife. They're great people. I had a chance to get to know them a little bit. And, you know, he commands a lot of respect. This is a highly intelligent capable individual. We're lucky to have someone like him want to serve this country. I think he will do a very good job.
This is a unique, outside-the-box pick. And, you know, Eric was saying, "Wow, this guy, let's pay attention. Let's take a look at him." He is somebody that nobody is going to pull, like, the wool over his eyes. He's hard-working. He's focused. He's determined. And he's going to apply that same work ethic and ingenuity that he has applied to making Exxon one of the top, you know, companies in the world to the secretary of state position.
BOOTHE: And Greg, what do you think?
GUTFELD: He's got Rex appeal.
BOLLING: Not bad.
GUTFELD: You know, when Trump makes you a little nervous, Tillerson is like chamomile tea. He alleviates your concerns. Because he comes off as a tough intellect.
And I've said this -- you know, Trump as a candidate drove me nuts at times; but as a president, he's -- what can you complain about? Like, if you're a conservative -- no seriously. As a conservative, what has he did? Aside from the tariffs, which he hasn't done but bus me, so far everything has been kind of like what you'd want from a conservative president. So, you know, he pulled in somebody from the outside, which he said he was going to do, and this person has never been in politics. And thank God...
GUILFOYLE: And he's done deal with 100 countries all over the world. Knows what he's doing.
BOOTHE: All right. We've got to -- all right. And we've got to get moving, because "One More Thing" is coming up next.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, yes. Time now for "One More Thing" -- Bobby.
BECKEL: OK, well, this morning is the prayer breakfast, a solemn occasion. This is what our president, President Trump, thought was very important about prayer and faith: reality TV ratings and specifically his old show. Listen to what the president said.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: They hired a big, big movie star, Arnold Schwarzenegger, to take my place. And we know how that turned out. And I want to just pray for Arnold if we can, for those ratings. OK?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUILFOYLE: That's kind of funny. Come on.
BECKEL: Really, really fun. OK, now Arnold had a very good response, and I endorse it completely.
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ARNOLD SCHWARZENEGGER, FORMER CALIFORNIA GOVERNOR/HOST OF NBC'S "CELEBRITY APPRENTICE": Hey, Donald. I have a great idea. Why don't we switch jobs? You take over TV, because you're such an expert in ratings, and I take over your job. And then people can finally sleep comfortably again.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BECKEL: Right on, Arnold. I haven't had a good night's sleep since.
BOLLING: You can't, though. You can't switch jobs.
BOOTHE: Surprised he didn't say that while doing push-ups.
BOLLING: He wasn't born in America. Does that still matter?
BECKEL: What? Yes, it still matters.
BOLLING: All right, just kidding.
GUTFELD: You can't do that again.
BECKEL: When it comes to Trump...
GUTFELD: You already did eight years of that.
BOLLING: ... right? That's a huge, huge, huge thing.
But Donald Trump's Twitter, social media. You've got to check it out. It's off the charts. He's gaining followers by 150,000 per day.
GUILFOYLE: Look at Bob.
BOLLING: On Twitter, he's got almost 23 million. He's got 15 million followers at his POTUS account in a couple of weeks. Thirteen million on the White House Twitter, Facebook 20 million, another 900,000 Facebook, and 8 million down here on Instagram, as well. Eighty-seven million.
And that's a testament to a good friend of mine, Dan Scavino, who's the director of social media and assistant to the president. But think about that. At any given moment, within two or 3 minutes, he can reach up to 80 -- now, I know there's overlap, but up to 87 million people. That's why I think he should continue with the social media.
GUILFOYLE: I loved that presentation.
BOLLING: Thank you.
BECKEL: That was just wonderful.
GUILFOYLE: OK, Greg.
GUTFELD: (SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE)
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GUTFELD: I hate these people!
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GUTFELD: That was the universal language of Esperanto.
I talked about these people before. They're people that are walking in front of you, and you're in a rush, or you're just walking and they're walking. Then they just stop as though the world has stopped because they got a text. Or maybe their phone rang, but they just stop and they look down. And they just stand in the middle of the sidewalk. They don't move because they're in their own head; they're in their own world. They forget that there are six or 7 billion people around there.
So I've decided I have a solution. Call it phone lanes or otherwise known as idiot lanes. You just separate the sidewalk. You're on the phone, you're on the left or the right so other normal people can pass your big fat butts.
GUILFOYLE: And you're calling yourself normal.
GUILFOYLE: That's the headline with that.
OK. Charming. Charming.
All right, Greg, you're going to like this one, because you used to have the half-naked McConaughey correspondent on "Red Eye." So actor -- the real actor -- Matthew McConaughey...
GUTFELD: Real actor.
GUILFOYLE: ... saying in an interview that it's time for Hollywood to embrace President Trump and get over it. He was replying to a question about whether it was time for America's cultural elite to give Trump a break. Take a listen to what he had to say.
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MATTHEW MCCONAUGHEY, ACTOR: They don't have a choice now. He's our president. And it's very dynamic and as divisive of an inauguration time that we've ever had. At the same time, it's time for us to embrace. Shake hands with this guy and be constructive with him over the next four years.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUILFOYLE: Now that...
BOLLING: Now he's blackballed. He'll never work again.
GUILFOYLE: Former actor. But look, that's, like, an example of the adults in the room. Right?
GUILFOYLE: And by the way, his rep said that was before the inauguration. So everybody's trying to walk stuff back.
BOOTHE: He's always so chill.
GUILFOYLE: Well, we can't get into that, why.
BOOTHE: OK. So Barry White Jr., we're going to show you video of Barry White Jr. He is a fifth grade English teacher at Ashley Park School in Charlotte, North Carolina. He has a personalized handshake with every single student that he has. He said he picked it up because he's an avid Cleveland Cavaliers fan, and this is something that LeBron James does with his teammates.
GUILFOYLE: I love it.
BOOTHE: It's cute.
BOLLING: A different one for each one? Wow.
GUILFOYLE: I want to get one. All right. We should have that here at "The Five."
Set your DVR so you never miss an episode of "The Five." That's it for us. "Special Report"," the real show, is next.
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