Hannity breaks down the ObamaCare 'disaster'; Assange shares advice for Democratic Party

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," January 4, 2017. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." So we're getting incredible reaction to our exclusive interview with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange. Now, we're going to play more of our sit-down interview. That's coming up later tonight.

But first, a very desperate President Obama goes to Capitol Hill all in a last-ditch effort to try and save his disastrous health care law. And that is tonight's "Opening Monologue."

All right, so ObamaCare has been a monumental failure, but that is not stopping the president and Democrats from trying to save it.

Now, after huddling on Capitol Hill earlier today, well, left-wing congressional leaders, they dusted off the same old, tired, divisive rhetoric. They want to scare you, the American people, about those wascally (sic) Republicans repealing and replacing ObamaCare. The same old talking points. Take a look.


SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER, D-N.Y., MINORITY LEADER: The Republican plan to cut health care wouldn't make America great again, it would make America sick again.

REP. NANCY PELOSI, D-CALIF., MINORITY LEADER: They have no replacement plan.  They have no replacement plan because they just -- they can't -- they can't agree. They don't have the votes. So to repeal and then delay is an act of cowardice. That means, “We don't really know what we're doing.”

SCHUMER: And they want to repeal it and then try to hang it on us. Not going to happen. It's their responsibility, plain and simple. Now they're going to own it and all the problems in the health care system -- and there have been many throughout the years, no one has solved all of them -- are going to be on their back.


HANNITY: Oh, really, Democrats? They now want to claim that Republicans, they're to blame for breaking ObamaCare? Well, that's just a big, flat-out lie! And you know what? They know that because ObamaCare is already broken and it's failing you, the American people, miserably.

Now, we're going to show you the numbers that prove all of this in just a minute. But at the same time, President Obama, he ran to Capitol Hill.  Now, Vice President-elect Mike Pence, he was meeting with Republicans at that time to formulate the plan to repeal and replace this disastrous law.  

Now, here's what he said right after. Take a look.


VICE PRESIDENT-ELECT MIKE PENCE: The first order of business is to repeal and replace ObamaCare. ObamaCare has failed. And the American people have sent a decisive message to Washington, D.C., that they want ObamaCare to be repealed and replaced with health care reform that will lower the cost of health insurance without growing the size of government.


HANNITY: All right, now, Republicans, they need to make sure, one, they keep their promises and also move very quickly to repeal and replace ObamaCare, which, by the way, they appear to be on track to do. But they also need to be careful because Democrats have already shown, well, they're are not going to be blaming themselves when ObamaCare finally dies and crumbles.

Now, President-elect Trump, he issued this warning to the GOP and his colleagues earlier today. He tweeted out in part, quote, "Republicans must be careful in that the Dems own the failed ObamaCare disaster with its poor coverage and massive premium increases, like the 116 percent hike in Arizona Also, deductibles are so high that it is practically useless. Don't let the Schumer clowns out of this web."

Now, the president-elect is 100 percent right. Republicans need to make President Obama and the Democrats own every lie they told, every failed promise they didn't keep. And remember all the times the president -- remember this? -- remember all the times he said this:


PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA, JUNE 15, 2009: No matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise to the American people. If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan, period.

OBAMA, AUG. 11, 2009: If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.

OBAMA, JUNE 23, 2009: There's no doubt that we must preserve what's best about our health care system, and that means allowing Americans who like their doctors and their health care plans to keep them.

OBAMA, JULY 16, 2009: If you've got health insurance, you like your doctor, you like your plan, you can keep your doctor. You can keep your plan. Nobody is talking about taking that away from you.


HANNITY: Oh, really? Now, he also said the average family would save, on average, $2,500 per family per year. Well, since 2009, the average American family is paying $4,100 more.

Now, we also know that what the president said about keeping your doctor and plan, that they were lies because millions of Americans lost their doctors, millions lost their plans. And that is just the start of this ObamaCare disaster.

Now, here's what the president and Democrats own themselves. Now, remember, this is their plan, this is their fault, because not a single Republican voted for this law.

Now, ObamaCare premiums this year along are increasing by 25 percent on average. And in Arizona, like we mentioned, well, they'll rise by this year alone, 116 percent! Now, premiums on average for a family of four making $60,000 a year, well, that's going to spike by 43.6 percent. Deductibles for the same group are exploding by 22.9 percent.

But the misery for you, the American people -- it doesn't end there. Now, the president promised free market competition and choices for Americans on the exchanges. Sadly, the opposite has happened.

Major insurers like Humana, Aetna, United, Blue Cross, Blue Shield, they're all pulling out of states because they are losing money on the exchanges. Humana alone, they said they lost over $1 billion just for participating in ObamaCare. In states like Alabama, Alaska, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Wyoming, people buying on the exchanges, they only have one single insurer to choose from now.

On top of that, the numbers of health care insurance providers to choose from on healthcare.gov, well, that's going to drop just 28 percent this year alone!

And then there's all the taxes. The congressional Joint Committee on Taxation has previously found that the middle class will face $377 billion in tax increases, courtesy of ObamaCare. And according to a recent study, the surging ObamaCare premiums will cost you, the American taxpayer, an extra $9.8 billion this year alone.

So the negative impact of ObamaCare is obvious. You, the American people, have felt it directly, which is, in part, one of the reasons why so many voted for President-elect Trump. Now, yes, there are certain aspects of the law that Republicans will keep, like the issue of pre-existing conditions. But ObamaCare itself is a single, fundamental, massive big government failure that needs to be completely scrapped and redone so we can offer better care, more free market competition, and of course, lower costs for you, the American consumer.

And tonight, there are just 16 days until the Obama nightmare ends. Now, we're going to show you on the side of our screen tonight statistics -- how bad things have been under this president in the past eight years. The facts the mainstream media will never give you.

Joining is now with reaction, the author of the best-selling book "Treason." He's the former speaker of the House, Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich.

You know, here's a pretty funny thing. So the president-elect (sic) goes to the Capitol Hill today, meets with Democrats in the House and Senate, and then he says, Don't help the Republicans repeal or replace "Obama care," and then he suggests that they start referring to the GOP plan as "Trump care."

So what part of these statistics does the president not want to face?  Because it doesn't look good any which way you measure the actual impact of this law.

NEWT GINGRICH, R-FMR. HOUSE SPEAKER, FOX CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I mean, look, you've watched Barack Obama now for nine years. He doesn't want to face anything. He's going to go to Chicago to give his farewell address without noticing the almost 4,000 people shot in his home town in the last year alone. He doesn't understand anything about foreign policy, and he's in total denial about his health plan.

And remember, one of the majors reasons this economy is moving so slowly is the enormous burden that "Obama care" has put on the economy, on small business, on start-ups, on entrepreneurs. The result is -- you know, I'm happy to take his suggestion, by the way. Let's compare "Trump care" with "Obama care." Let's see a year from now whether or not President Trump and the Republicans can't do a whole series of things that improve access, lower costs, are more honest with the American people, give them greater choices, get the Washington bureaucracy out of the way.

And I think that people like Dr. Tom Price are very committed to having a "TrumpCare" that's a heck of a lot better than ObamaCare. So let's take him up on his challenged, and we'll see a year from now how many Democrats want to run for reelection...

HANNITY: Oh, free market competition...

GINGRICH: ... in 2018 defending the old order.

HANNITY: Free market competition, portability...

GINGRICH: Absolutely.

HANNITY: ... taking your health care from job to job, buying across state lines. That competition is only going to lower costs, increase the services that people will get. That is economics 101.


HANNITY: Here -- here's what I want to ask you. So if Donald Trump, because the president did not respect separation of powers, coequal branches of government -- if the first three or four hours of the Trump administration is to sign away and rescind all these executive orders, and the next thing is Donald Trump signs into law to repeal law of "Obama care," the only thing that I see left that the Obama's legacy is about would be refugees he's let into the country, some of whom may commit crimes in the future, the judges he appointed and the $10 trillion in debt.

It will almost be -- and tell me if I'm wrong...


HANNITY: It will almost be as if he didn't exist for the last eight years!

GINGRICH: No, and he'll get a nice portrait in the White House. All presidents get nice portraits.



HANNITY: But isn't it profound?

GINGRICH: ... he'll have a nice portrait -- oh, look, I've told people this is like one of those dolls that you watch the air come out of it and it shrinks and shrinks. By the time you get to Easter, the "Obama care," the Obama legacy is going to be so small, you're going to need a microscope to find it.

I think that no president in my lifetime, maybe no president in modern history, will have had as small an impact as Barack Obama because he lied to the American people over and over again. He failed to work with the Congress. He tried to do everything by executive order, and executive orders last exactly as long as the president.

So he's going to be very sobered by summer watching virtually everything he thought he accomplished go away.

HANNITY: So (INAUDIBLE) I'm putting up the economic statistics on the side of the screen so our audience can see it for themselves tonight. But then you look on foreign policy, there's no Russian reset. Things are worse than ever. Our relations with Israel are worse than ever. I don't think anybody would argue the Iranian deal is any good or Iraq is better off or Afghanistan is better off or our relationship with North Korea or China is better off.

What foreign policy success does he (INAUDIBLE)

GINGRICH: No, look, I think...

HANNITY: Benghazi?

GINGRICH: Well, Cuba.

HANNITY: OK. Is that a success really?

GINGRICH: He's much -- he's much closer -- he's much closer to the Castro dictatorship than any American president has ever been. So I guess he could cite Cuba is his great success, not that it did anything for the Cuba people, but it made Obama feel good.

HANNITY: You know, Mike...

GINGRICH: Well, but -- but here's...

HANNITY: Go ahead.

GINGRICH: You know, the challenge you and I have and the challenge our audience has is that the elite media is so totally in the tank for left- wing ideas and left-wing values that they can't report accurately any of this.

And so they keep taking the word of various people -- you know, the economy's very weak. The jobs that have created, frankly, are undervalued jobs that in many cases are part-time. The fact is that people who want to get into the middle class have a harder time now. Obama has pushed -- according to the Gallup studies, he's pushed 25 million people out of the middle class in his eight years. Now, that's an extraordinary negative achievement.

HANNITY: Let me ask you this last question. Everything that Donald Trump has run on -- Mike Pence said today to the Republican conference that it's time to be the party that now keeps their promises. I don't care if it's vetting refugees, building a wall, education back to the states, lowering the corporate tax to 15 percent, repealing and replacing "Obama care" -- all of these are really big ideas, and you've got resistance now and fear mongering that is only just beginning.

So you've been through this once before. What do you advise Donald Trump to do to navigate through the propaganda, the name calling, the fear mongering that predictably is going to emerge?

GINGRICH: Well, actually, I've been through it twice, once with Reagan...

HANNITY: That's true.

GINGRICH: ... and once as Speaker of the House in the '90s. I would say that the number one challenge to the team led by President-elect Trump going to be remembering what matters, focusing on the important, not the urgent, and making every morning, you get up and you say, Look, this is what we were elected to do. We're going to keep focusing on it and understanding if Chuck Schumer wants to be Senator No, that's his prerogative. That will shrink the Democratic Party. It'll set up a referendum...

HANNITY: Well, he says there's no...

GINGRICH: ... in 2018...

HANNITY: He says Donald Trump won't get any Supreme Court justice passed while he's the Senate minority leader.

HANNITY: Well, of course, he can't stop that because I think, you know, they're going to find out pretty rapidly that the Republicans are not going to tolerate the Democrats exploiting in a disciplined way the right to filibuster. I think he (INAUDIBLE) he could complete the disaster that Harry Reid started, if he really does play that kind of a hard-nosed game.

Mitch McConnell is a very smart tactician, and McConnell has a real obligation to get the cabinet approved and to get the Supreme Court nominee approved. My prediction is he will win. And let's -- look, if you're one of the 10 senators from states that Donald Trump carried...

HANNITY: Missouri, Manchin...

GINGRICH: ... do you really want to go home having blocked everything?

HANNITY: I don't think it would be good for Claire McCaskill or Joe Manchin in they did that. They're both up in two years.

All right, stay right there. More with Newt Gingrich right after the break.

And also coming up tonight right here...


ASSANGE: This is something a 14-year-old kid -- a 14-year-old kid could have hacked...


ASSANGE: ... that way.


HANNITY: Former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich weighs in on my exclusive interview with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.

And also later tonight...


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Use your congressional powers...









UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anything that violates our core values as diverse Americans.


HANNITY: Hollywood snowflakes and Hollywood liberals -- they're all losing their minds over President-elect Trump. Anthony Scaramucci, Corey Lewandowski -- they are people here to respond.

Also, Ainsley Earhardt has a report on skyrocketing violence in Chicago.  We'll get reaction from her and Sheriff David Clarke straight ahead.




ASSANGE: We published that the -- several Podesta e-mails which shows Podesta responding to a phishing e-mail. Now, how did they respond?  Podesta gave out that his password was the word password. His own staff said, This e-mail that you've received -- this is totally legitimate. So - - so this is something a 14-year-old kid -- a 14-year-old kid could have hacked.

HANNITY: Based on...


ASSANGE: ... that way.


HANNITY: Sad we don't have cyber security. Now, that was Julian Assange talking about the lack of security that plagued the Clinton campaign. Now, following my one-on-one exclusive interview with the WikiLeaks founder, President-elect Trump -- he tweeted out, quote, "Julian Assange said a 14- year-old could have hacked Podesta. So why was the DNC so careless? He also said Russians did not give him the information."

We continue with former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, a Fox News contributor. You told me you watched the interview. I wish I had the time to air more. We have at least 40 minutes more. We'll air some of that tonight.

What were your general thoughts? Because when we asked the audience after the show what they thought, whether they believed Assange or Obama and Hillary, the majority, vast, overwhelming majority believed Assange. What are your thoughts?

GINGRICH: Well, let me say, first of all, I think what you did is so fascinating, and Assange is such a down-to-earth, straightforward interviewee. You begin to realize we don't have cybersecurity for much of what we're doing. We're way behind the curve in what we have to learn how to do if we're going to function as a society. And I think in that sense, this is very revealing interview.

Second, the idea that a 14-year-old could have done it, but it was the Russians, tells you how desperate Obama and the Democrats are to find some excuse to discredit Donald J. Trump because they can't stand the idea that he won because Hillary was so bad, because the Obama record was so bad, and because the American people were tired of radical policies that don't work.  So they've -- in some ways, they've trumped this whole thing up...

HANNITY: You know...

GINGRICH: ... to use a phrase, in order to try to discredit the president-elect.

HANNITY: And that's the amazing thing here. Now, whether you like Julian Assange or not, he's really committed his life to this work, answered unequivocally he's never spoken to Putin, he's never spoken to his surrogates, never spoken to Trump or his surrogates.

And when I asked him -- I said, Well, what if the information was about Donald Trump, would you have released it? And his answer was absolutely, positively yes.

Now, when you look at what they exposed about the DNC and you look at what we learned about the collusion with the news media and the Clinton campaign, I've got to believe that this is more trustworthy information than anything we're getting from The New York Times or Politico or NBC or CBS or ABC. Is that a stretch to say something...

GINGRICH: No, no. Look, I think this -- one of the great sad things about the last eight years is the degree to which the Obama administration has corrupted the intelligence community and has led the to people just not believing the director of national intelligence, not believing the head of the CIA.

And similarly, when the elite media decided they were in the tank for Hillary Clinton, that they were going to go all out on a one-sided effort, they actually broke the country's faith that they had anything to do with the news. They became propaganda instruments, not news instruments.

And the result is people are more likely to believe watching an interview for 40 minutes than they are to believe, you know, the so-called wise men of The New York Times. And that's a real drop in institutional confidence in this country.

And in the long run, it's dangerous for the country to have people who can't trust their government, can't trust their news media. It's one of those things that President Trump is going to have to correct is -- and this is part of why I think his tweeting is important. You're getting an authentic Trump. Whether he's right or wrong sometimes, whether there's occasionally things he shouldn't say, the act of being that direct, that open, of having people see who he authentically is I think helps rebuild faith in the system.

HANNITY: I think the collusion between the media and the Clinton campaign was so over-the-top egregious, I don't think that trust will ever be rebuilt. But by the way, Chuck Todd over at NBC thinks they did a great job. He was putting himself on the back.

Mr. Speaker, good to see you. Happy new year. And it's going to be a fascinating...

GINGRICH: Good to see you.

HANNITY: ... 200 days. Thank you, sir.

And coming up, we'll play more of my exclusive interview with Julian Assange. But first tonight...


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Use your congressional powers...









UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anything that violates our core values as diverse Americans.


HANNITY: Hollywood elites, liberal snowflakes -- they're all losing their minds about the incoming Trump administration. So we'll check in with Anthony Scaramucci and Corey Lewandowski. That's coming up next.

Also, violence in Chicago and around the country is escalating. As President-elect Trump suggests, maybe it's time for the federal government to step in and help. We'll get a report from "Fox & Friends" co-host Ainsley Earhardt, and we'll get reaction from Sheriff David Clarke. That's all straight ahead.


HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." Now, for years, the whiny liberal left complained that Republicans haven't worked with President Obama on key issues. But now, let's see. We got a group of liberals, including so- called Hollywood Learjet liberal elites, demanding that lawmakers, quote, obstruct and oppose President-elect Trump. What a bunch of hypocrites.

Watch this.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's what we demand.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To the extent that Trump pursues racist...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sexist, anti-immigrant...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anti-worker, anti-Muslim, anti-Semitic.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anti-environmental policies.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We demand that you vigorously oppose him.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We expect you to have our backs.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To protect our civil liberties and to use your congressional powers.









UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Anything that violates our core values as diverse Americans.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Signed, the majority.





UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The majority of the American people.


HANNITY: All right, here now with reaction, the vice chair of Donald Trump's presidential inaugural committee and Trump transition team executive committee member Anthony Scaramucci, and former Trump campaign manager and Avenue Strategies partner Corey Lewandowski. You're going to be right down the block from the White House.


HANNITY: And -- but you -- I think this is important for people to know.  You always maintained a relationship with Donald Trump, whether you were in the campaign, out of the campaign.


HANNITY: And you have a friendship with him.

LEWANDOWSKI: Look, it'll be two years ago tomorrow when I started working for Donald Trump when we started planning out this presidential campaign.  And in the 18 months I spent working for Donald Trump, you developed a rapport with somebody because we were spending 18 hours a day together.

HANNITY: Oh, by the way, it was you, Hope, and him. And that's what I remember.

LEWANDOWSKI: And an airplane. And an airplane.

HANNITY: And an airplane.


LEWANDOWSKI: ... flying around, having a lot of fun. And it's gotten so big -- and look, here's what I said. I'm not going into the administration, even though I had some opportunities to do that. I want to help the president achieve his agenda by being on the outside. That means bringing people together, putting pressure on Congress, make sure his Supreme Court picks, hopefully, multiple of those, get done...

ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI, TRUMP INAUGURATION COMMITTEE: Making sure his cabinet secretaries go through without any problems, making sure we provide middle class tax relief, which is what his agenda is, repealing and replacing "Obama care"...

HANNITY: Mike Pence said it well today, keep the promises.


HANNITY: Keep the promises -- if they do that, they'll walk into reelection, and the country will be better off.

SCARAMUCCI: He's not giving himself enough credit, though. He was the kindling wood at a very early stage in...

HANNITY: I saw it. I was there. I -- I...

SCARAMUCCI: ... concrete and rebar...

HANNITY: Agreed.

SCARAMUCCI: ... when nobody believed anything. And coming out of Iowa, he was the New Hampshire the campaign organization.

HANNITY: Look, it's unfair the way media portrays any of us in this day and age because they hate anybody that's a conservative.


HANNITY: By the way, I want to point out, panned the camera on Mr. Scaramucci here. This guy is in charge of all the inauguration. He is the guy in charge. Everybody needs to suck up to you.


SCARAMUCCI: He's just super happy. Then he says OK, no problem. He didn't realize the bill I'm sending him.

HANNITY: Are you going to go in?

SCARAMUCCI: Listen, I have said this repeatedly. I love the president.  He has been awesome to me and my family, and if the right job materializes for me, Sean, I am an American patriot like you, and I certainly would certainly consider doing it.

HANNITY: No administration would ever consider having me because 30 years of radio and 21 years on FOX.

SCARAMUCCI: But trust me, we need you on the outside. But what I would say to you is if the opportunity presents itself, I will be there. Here's the good news, we've got great people on the inside. We've got great people on the outside, and we are super committed to executing the Donald J. Trump, the president Donald J. Trump --

HANNITY: I hope they who have shown a lack of backbone and a spine over the years -- I'm serious. You have a Republican establishment that did not support him. Let's be blunt here. Paul Ryan did not do what he should have done for the nominee of the party. Then you've got a Democratic establishment, then you've got a media establishment that wants to go to war with him.

Now we are talking about these little snowflakes and these Hollywood liberals, it's going to be, I believe, a day by day chipping away at Donald Trump's credibility to hurt him and destroy his agenda.

SCARAMUCCI: I agree with some of that, but he's just going to be constantly underestimated by these people, and he's going to cross those people. But I love the Hollywood liberals. Can I tell you why?

HANNITY: You like their Learjets?

SCARAMUCCI: I love the whole think with the global warming and they fly in on their plane and they say this stupid stuff about themselves and never go anywhere. But what I love about it is the liberal elites in the Democratic Party's love them. They love very little else. They don't love the blue collar workers anymore. They don't love the people that brought them the presidencies of year ago. They love the Hollywood liberal elites and they love the doctrine of political correctness.

HANNITY: It's interesting you say that.

SCARAMUCCI: We stole away the country so we can continue to focus there so we can control the House, the Senate, the presidency, and all the state legislatures.

HANNITY: Corey, you don't remember this, but at one point I said to you very early on, I'm giving out these statistics on radio and TV every day, 95 million Americans out of the labor force, 50 million in poverty and food stamps, 13 million more on food stamps, and the reason was because this election to me was about the forgotten men and women that were out of work, in poverty, on food stamps, the lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.  The American dream is ripped out of their guts. That is what this election I think became about.

LEWANDOWSKI: Sean, don't forget that what you have done on talk radio and Rush Limbaugh and others has been so important to the rise of the Donald Trumps of the world, because those talk radio stations across the country - -

HANNITY: I'm on 560.

LEWANDOWSKI: -- are giving everyday people the opportunity to hear the other side of the aisle, right, the other side because the Democrats have control of the mainstream media. So if you're not in your car and you not working, you're not listening to that talk radio, that's what has given the rise to Donald Trump.

HANNITY: In fairness, I never -- the criticism would always come in.  Well, you are interviewing this candidate or that candidate. But what I would do is I would ask them what is your plan for health care? What kind of person do you want on the Supreme Court? How are you going to handle immigration? Of all of candidates, Trump was the most specific. He never got credit for it.

LEWANDOWSKI: He didn't get credit for it because, look, the mainstream media always wanted to -- again, to what Anthony said, never take them seriously. On the day he announced he was running for president, the media didn't know what the announcement was about. They showed up in anticipation of him not knowing what you're going to say. And that is a summary of this campaign. They never knew what to do with Donald Trump.

SCARAMUCCI: That's on them for the first 100 days and beyond because he'll continue to do that.

HANNITY: Good to see you both. Thank you. By the way, I am working at the inauguration so I won't be begging for tickets. It's a Friday night.  I'll be there. And I'm not wearing one of those goofy suits that every else wears.

SCARAMUCCI: Happy birthday, Sean.

HANNITY: Listen, you're both good friends. Good to see you.

Coming up, violence in Chicago and around the country spiraling out of control. Get this, in Chicago alone, 762 people killed in the last year in the windy city, over 4,000 shot. The president-elect Donald Trump said if Mayor Rahm "Rahm-bo," "Dead fish" Emanuel can't get things under control he could ask for federal help. Ainsley Earhardt has a full report, Sheriff David Clarke weighs in, and much more. And also later tonight.


HANNITY: What would your advice to the incoming president and president- elect Donald Trump be?

JULIAN ASSANGE, FOUNDER, WIKILEAKS: I think it is to learn from that, to learn about the mistakes that were committed by Hillary Clinton, learn from the mistakes of Barack Obama, especially in this area of transparency.


HANNITY: We will have more of my exclusive interview with Julian Assange straight ahead tonight on HANNITY.  


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." So in 2009 Barack Obama, he entered office under the mantle of hope and change. Now after nearly eight years some of America's major cities are now experiencing a devastating rise in violent crime. Joining me now with the details, "Fox & Friends" co-host, our friend Ainsley Earhardt. Happy New Year, good to see her.

AINSLEY EARHARDT, FOX NEWS HOST: Happy New Year to you too, Sean, thank you.

Listen to these numbers, the statistics are pretty staggering. In recent years, America have seen a tragic uptick in violent crime. The latest nationwide data shows in 2015 homicides across United States rose by more than 10 percent from the year before. And one of the cities which is experiencing significant violence is the president's hometown of Chicago.

And during this past holiday weekend alone, according to The Chicago Tribune, 55 people were shot during the holiday weekend. According to the Chicago police department, the city reported a devastating 762 homicides last year in 2016. That is two murders a day. It is an unbelievable statistic, 57 percent increase over 2015. In fact, over the past eight years, the windy city has reported 3,919 confirmed homicides.

On Monday, the president-elect Donald Trump reacted to the heartbreaking numbers out of Chicago by tweeting this, "Chicago murder rate is record setting, 4,331 shooting victim with 762 murders in 2016. If mayor can't do it, he must ask for federal help."

As the president-elect prepares to take office, violent crime especially in our inner cities will be a serious challenge that the incoming administration will have to face on day one, Sean.

HANNITY: Those are chilling, chilling numbers. That's scary. Ainsley, thank you, stay with us.

Joining us now also with reaction, Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke.  Sheriff, former police chief of Chicago, one of the top officers there, actually said that 80 percent of the people being killed and shot are black Americans. We've heard a lot about Black Lives Matter, but the Democratic Party, the president, a Democratic mayor, Democratic president, his own hometown, how do you allow 4,000 murders and 10,000 people shot in eight years and not do anything about it?

SHERIFF DAVID CLARKE, MILWAUKEE COUNTY: You just look the other way.  There's no sense of urgency on the part of Rahm Emanuel. Gary McCarthy, the former superintendent, should never have signed consent decree that he did. We are not hearing anything from the governor, Rauner, of the state Illinois. Also the attorney general, the state attorney general needs to get involved.

And of course, the resources of the United States Department of Justice, Loretta Lynch has been absent. And Barack Obama has been missing in action. Only in the American ghetto, Sean, could this kind of carnage go on with no sort of emergency measures put in place. If 762 people died in an earthquake or 762 people died in spring flooding in the Midwest, or if 762 people died in a hurricane in the southeast, there's no way that everybody would stand by twiddling their thumbs. That's the problem here, no sense of urgency.

But here's the bottom line. Here is what is wrong in Chicago. It's not the Chicago police department. It's the fact that Mayor Emanuel has allowed Black Lives Matter and the ACLU, the American Civil Liberties Union, to run the Chicago police department. They are setting policy, procedure, and standard operating procedure.

HANNITY: Should they not follow the New York experience? When Mayor Giuliani started stop and frisk, it was over 2,000 murders a year. they got the number down to about 300 or 400, a dramatic decrease, and a majority of those lives saved were black lives. So why not implement a program like that? Would the federal government be able to come in and do that?

CLARKE: They can do it at the city level. But the thing is, I think the promising thing about this, if there is any, is that they don't have to reinvent the wheel here. They don't have to come up with something that's never been tried before. All they have to do is the broken windows, the order maintenance type policing, but you can't do that when Black Lives Matter and the ACLU has set standard operating procedures that don't let police officers on the street do it.

Now, I saw the investigative stop procedure from the Chicago police department. Sean, it's unbelievable what officers have to do after every stop, either a traffic stop or a field interview stop. There's some form that they have to fill out after each and every stop. It discourages police officers.

HANNITY: You're going to spend most of your time at a desk rather than on the street.

CLARKE: Exactly.

HANNITY: Ainsley, let me go back you. So in the time Obama has been president nearly 4,000 people in Chicago killed.

EARHARDT: It is unbelievable. More people died in Chicago in 2016 than in L.A. and New York combined. When I moved to New York it was so danger, my parents were so worried. Chicago is the city now that is so dangerous.  They have some of the strictest gun laws. They don't allow assault weapons, and a lot of people say we need strict gun laws. These activists say we need strict gun laws. But there is no correlation there. Strict gun laws does not mean that murders are down. Look at Chicago. Strict gun laws, but murders are up.

HANNITY: I love the fact that Trump said if you can't do the job, we will do it. And you know what, maybe that's a message, because all lives do matter. Anyway, great reporting. Thank you, and we'll see you tomorrow.  By the way, congratulations, your book is again number one, number one bestselling book in the country.

Sheriff, your book is coming out because I wrote the forward.

EARHARDT: Really, you have a book coming out?

HANNITY: Right, Sheriff? When is your book coming out?

CLARKE: March release date, "Cop under Fire, Beyond the Hashtags of Race, Crime, and Politics for a Better America." You can preorder it on Amazon or Barnes and Noble.

EARHARDT: That's awesome.

HANNITY: You're a hero. Thank you, Sheriff.

EARHARDT: It's going to be number one because our viewers are the best and they support you and love you.

HANNITY: All right, guys, good to see you both. Coming up next tonight right here on HANNITY.


HANNITY: What would your advice to the incoming president and president- elect Donald Trump be?

ASSANGE: I think it is to learn from that, to learn about the mistakes that were committed by Hillary Clinton, learn from the mistakes of Barack Obama, especially in this area of transparency.


HANNITY: When we come back, more of my exclusive interview with the WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange. That's right after this break and much more straight ahead.


HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity."

So during my exclusive sit-down interview with WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in London earlier this week, I asked him what advice would he give President Obama, Hillary Clinton, and president-elect Trump? Here's what he had to say.


HANNITY: What's your message at the end of this election and this process and hearing Hillary blame WikiLeaks, James Comey for her election loss.  What is your message to Hillary Clinton?

ASSANGE: Well, I don't think Hillary Clinton is particularly important anymore. But the Democratic Party is important. It's important to have a strong opposition. And the Democratic Party now has a moment where it can go through a reformation. They can only go through that reformation if it looks like at the genuine reasons for the loss.

The genuine reasons to my mind for the loss is because the rigging of the primary process. They didn't pick the strongest candidate. So there's an internal market which is the primary process. You battle it out, you have different contenders. And the idea is that the strongest candidate is who you then send off into the main election. That didn't happen. Why didn't it happen? Because the DNC was rigged. The DNC would no longer represent the genuine interests of the Democratic Party. And that's the problem.

So my message to the U.S. Democratic Party is now is a moment for reformation and for a renewal of the Democratic Party. Take the information we have published which shows you who are the different players are and how they worked within the DNC. Learn from it, and reform, because every government has to have a strong opposition to keep it efficient, accountable, honest, et cetera.

HANNITY: Let me ask about your message to Barack Obama through this president. He has now joins the ranks of blaming WikiLeaks and Russia and hacking for having an influence in the election, meanwhile ignoring the documents from China, his own attempt to influence the Israeli election.  What would your message to him be?

ASSANGE: There is documented attempt to interfere with the election. We published it, which is the rigging of the primary process.

HANNITY: What an irony, right? There is the proof, but he's not focused on that.

ASSANGE: Right. Barack Obama is now, if you like, is an elder statesman.  He should be helping this reformation in the Democratic Party. That should be his position. And to do that properly, he has to be seen as someone who is independent and trustworthy by the Democrats.

HANNITY: An elder statesman.

ASSANGE: He has to pull away entirely from that Hillary Clinton network, pull away entirely, say this was a problem. We've got to learn from it.  He is not saying that, and I think that's just a terrible thing for the Democratic Party that he isn't. And, frankly, it's not good for him either. He needs to be seen now as someone who is above all that, that he's above the fray, that he is a fair arbitrator of the different factions.

HANNITY: What would your advice to the incoming president and president- elect Donald Trump be?

ASSANGE: I think it is to learn from that, to learn about the mistakes that were committed by Hillary Clinton, learn from the mistakes of Barack Obama, especially in this area of transparency. If you can get the information out as soon as possible, then you can correct as soon as possible. So I think that Donald Trump early on in his administration, he needs to set a standard. He needs to go to someone in that cabinet, OK, you're a friend, maybe an ally, but you did the wrong thing here by the American people, so you are fired. And that standard needs to be set early that no one is immune to betraying the role.

HANNITY: He can be honest, transparent, and forthright without using the media too, which has been proven to be hostile.

ASSANGE: I think that's a good thing. I think it's a good thing that he can go straight to the public and not have to massage the interests of media proprietors or the journalistic class, which has other interest as well.

HANNITY: Very few people in the media, there was even one major national news organization, that were willing to cover the depth of what WikiLeaks revealed, what these emails revealed, what were the contents of these emails.

Now, I have, for example, a lot of the major headlines. You've got the collusion between media organizations giving Hillary Clinton questions ahead of time, asking for questions that they can ask Republicans in a particular campaign. They are up to their eyeballs.         

ASSANGE: You have Donna Brazile.        

HANNITY: Donna Brazile is one. John Harwood is another. Katie Couric offered to showcase her personality, in other words, a fluff piece for her. And it goes further than that. Reuters, they have the New York Times and Politico, and they are literally giving them editing opportunities before an article is published. I've been interviewed by both those publications and I can assure you that's never happened to me in my life, nor do I think that same consideration was given to Donald Trump.         

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HANNITY: All right, when we come back we need your help with a very, very important "Question of the Day" straight ahead.        


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." Time for our "Question of the Day." This is an easy one. Republicans, should they repeal and replace ObamaCare? Yes, yes, please yes. Go to Facebook.com/SeanHannity, @SeanHannity on Twitter, let us know what you think.

Don't forget, tune in tomorrow night at 10:00 eastern. We have Laura Ingraham, Michelle Malkin, and Senator Ted Cruz will all be here. But that is all the time we have left this evening. Thanks for being with us.  We'll see you back here tomorrow night.

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