This is a rush transcript from "The Five," December 30, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: New responses today from Russia, after the Obama administration punished the country for cyber activities tied to our elections. The White House imposed sanctions on officials and intelligence services, closed two Russian facilities and ordered the nearly three dozen diplomats to leave by the weekend, here's why.
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ERIC SCHULTZ, WHITE HOUSE PRINCIPAL DEPUTY PRESS SECRETARY: Our bottom line is that what Russia has been engaged in over the last few months and years is unacceptable. It's outside the norms of diplomatic behavior and the President is sending a message today to tell them to cut it out. And that's why he ordered aggressive actions in order to curb their - in order to deter them from doing this again.
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BOLLING: Russia's embassy responded to the sanctions with this lame duck tweet. President Vladimir Putin also responded condemning the actions but said Russia won't retaliate. So, Putin says, you know, nyet.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Nyet. Yeah, this was not a winning diplomatic moment really for the United States, because instead of like, coming back with an iron first, he said, kind of a head fake. He said that wasn't really any kind of sanctions that they should be worried about. Then you have the President-elect Donald Trump coming back saying that Putin in fact -- he always knew that he was very, you know, smart guy. So, this isn't great optics for President Obama right now, there's always been this kind of thinly veiled contempt that Vladimir Putin has shown for our President Barack Obama and, you know, this is just another example of that.
BOLLING: Eboni, what did they, in fact, do? They've sent 35 diplomats home who, allegedly may have been spying and they closed down two compounds.
EBONI WILLIAMS, GUEST CO-HOST: Yeah, I agree. I this was not even close to far enough. You know, I actually quote Ambassador - former U.N. Ambassador Bolton, "we need to get past the politics of this because even - if even a piece of what is alleged about the Russian activity is true, it is utterly unacceptable as it is attack on our constitutional system." And I think that's so important here, I can even think for a while now whether you agree that it was done with the intention of throwing this election towards Donald Trump or not. If it's even true, it's a real big problem and we have to be swift, and strong, and completely aggressive. And I agree with K.G., this wasn't even close to aggressive enough.
GUILFOYLE: Probably too late. I mean, if he knew about this ahead of time, he should have done something before, versus this time-out. He tried to give the Kremlin a time-out, it didn't work.
BOLLING: You know what, he actually may have accomplished, President Obama by this? He got Lindsey Graham and John McCain to go on the record and say, "the sanctions were tough enough we need to do tougher sanctions, before they even have the evidence."
LISA BOOTHE, GUEST CO-HOST: Well, I think it's another example from President Obama whose sort have been all bark and no bite. We've seen this throughout his presidency and really, you know, Putin has been the beneficiary of that weakness from President Obama, because what we have seen from President Obama is that our enemies have really become emboldened under him and specifically with Russia. You know, what we are talking right now is there's a, you know, the temporary ceasefire in Syria. And that is an example of where President Obama has allowed Putin to assert its power and authority in the Middle East.
The first time in decades to be, you know, essentially a power player right now in both Syria and Iraq as well, where we failed to leave a Status of Forces Agreement, and allowed a breeding for ISIS. And you look at, you know, Russia has set up a new air base in Lattakia, I believe, in Syria, has announced in October that a naval facility he's going to make permanent as well. And there's, you know, Russian and Iranian troops in Syria that are set up shop. So, you know, you look at sort of this weakness of President Obama and Putin has been a huge beneficiary of that weakness.
BOLLING: What do you think? What was this really about? Was this at Putin or is this at Trump?
TYRUS, GUEST CO-HOST: No, this is - this is about Obama. This is - his foreign policy is done. His Presidency is done. And Russia has made a joke of his - of him over the last few months. Syria, we're on the wrong end of that, they look great on that. The hacking, when it was going down, we didn't do anything because the arrogance of the Democratic Party was, Hillary's going to win in a landslide anyways. So, even if there was hacking or whatever, it was - nothing was going to take away from the landslide victory. Didn't happen, so now they're looking in a scramble, had to blame somebody. So, we've got to blame the Russians.
There - if you want to look at it for what it was, you can say, in my opinion, it was an act of war to mess with our election. But we didn't do that. Because we weren't worried about it and now it's happened, it's over, all the stuff is going to come out. And you're saying, your diplomats have to go home. And Putin is saying, that's it? That's all you got? And then while you are doing that, he is getting a D.M. saying, don't worry about it, bruh. After the 20th, we're good.
BOLLING: We got this. Is it bad thing for our - and I agree with everyone here that if they did in fact, hack and affect the election, they need - there needs to be sanctions and they need to be reprimanded and severely. However, we don't have proof of that in light of until we do and if we don't have that proof, is it a bad thing for President Donald Trump to be in good favor with Vladimir Putin?
GUILFOYLE: I don't think it's in bad favor - I mean, I don't think it's a bad move for him to be in a good favor. He wants to be able to sit down, he wants to be able to talk to the other side, get to the bottom of things, and in fact, have that healthy amount of fear and respect so that you can actually sit across from somebody and say, "Hey, listen, I know what you're up to - I know what you're up to." But actually, have some kind of amount of respect so that he knows that if President-elect Donald Trump says something that he's going to do it, then he's going to follow through. The problem I have with this scenario is yes, of course, if Russia is meddling and trying to interfere, has that intentionality to influence U.S. elections, bad luck for them. Because then we need to respond in kind, but the situation here is we didn't have a through and through investigation. The timeline is all off.
Because why is he engaging in this, and like he's satirist? He's acting now. He's upset. He is stomping his foot at the Russians but it's a day late and a dollar short, because he thought first, potentially, that Hillary was going to win the presidency. She didn't. So, it looks like they're only bringing it up now despite having evidence about it. He should have done a full and thorough investigation at the time that he first sniffed it out.
BOLLING: Not only that, Eboni, before the election, the e-mails that they - that WikiLeaks leaked weren't that big of a deal to the democrats.
WILLIAMS: To them -
BOLLING: Of course they'll pick the others. You know, Podesta's Macaroni Casserole.
BOLLING: And they said, no, there's nothing here. There's no there, there. And then she loses, and that's the reason why she wants it.
WILLIAMS: That's why I always say if it's good for the goose, it's got to be good for the gander. So, you can never kind of have this attitude if it only matters - if it affects you inversely at the moment, and that's super dangerous. I do want to go to the point there that if you're talking about this, I think a lot of questions among Americans right now; the relationship between Vladimir Putin and President-elect Trump, and what that really looks like.
And I agree with you K.G., having a relationship as two leaders of incredibly power - powerful countries, that's important. And that could very well serve to be our favor, but for those of us who don't know as much about President-elect Trump and what that's going to look like moving forward, I think there are legitimate concerns around how far that kind of flattery thing goes, what that's going to look like down the road and I will not be - want presume what it's going to look like. But I do have concerns around it.
BOOTHE: No, I mean look, I think some of the things that Donald Trump tweets out, I don't understand, because he is throwing fire on gasoline. You know, I think with especially that tweet today to Vladimir Putin. But, I mean, there are some actions that he has taken that, you know, make me feel a little bit better in the sense of some of the people he has surrounded himself with in his Cabinet like General Mattis, or Michael Flynn. The fact that he is bringing on Tom Bossert, I believe, is it how you pronounce his name? Department of Homeland Security, who did cyber security under George W. Bush. Who take that very seriously, who sort of tasked with that role as well in the Trump administration and we've been getting hacked left and right from the Iranians, Russia hacked into the joint chiefs of staff. Shut down that system - unclassified system for two weeks. You know, China with OPM, obtaining Social Security numbers I think for 22 million people.
BOLLING: We're going to send everyone - we're going to send everyone out? I mean, you know, you pick - you pick Russia because allegedly that's the reason why Hillary lost. But if these other countries are hacking us, too.
TYRUS: Russia, also, been punching us in the mouth a little bit over foreign policy. They have made some big moves. And the whole thing with Donald Trump and Putin - here's my thing, sometimes my enemy's enemy is my friend, that old saying. And the biggest issue with American - they want ISIS, they want the Middle East situation settled. And to be honest with you, I'd rather be riding with Russia dealing with that, than France. No offense. Just keeping it real. And let's put back, we're not going to that Cold War, all that stuff. Right now, Russia is handling stuff, and if we're working together --
WILLIAMS: I just think we have to be careful, though, right? Because I personally believe that Putin and Russia, they really want the gravitas that United States has in the world, right? And I think we all know that. So, I agree with you, I think that let them do what they do and if they're helpful with ISIS and all of this, that's all good. But let's just be mindful of what that relationship ultimately needs to look like.
BOOTHE: And real quick though, too, so, if you remember Putin not too long ago was tweeting out about the fact that, you know, they're going to strengthen their nuclear arsenal and then shortly thereafter Trump tweeted out, well, you know, America is going to - you know, so, I don't necessarily think he's going to allow himself to be bullied by Putin the same degree where, you know, President Obama has been by, you know, the aggression we've seen with China and the South China Sea, the Iranians, Russia, I mean, you name it. And he just let America be bullied by, you know, all these different countries who have acted more aggressively under his watch. So, I don't think we'll see that from Donald Trump.
BOLLING: It feels like he's settling a lot of scores on his way out of office.
GUILFOYLE: OK, and is that more about his ego? It should be more about what's in the best interest of the American people. And by the way, America shouldn't be embarrassed to be a superpower because Russia's not. So, I think you're going to see a very, very different approach to international foreign policy and to U.S. national security, come January 20th. And it's long overdue because the respect has gone out the door.
BOLLING: There you go. Ahead, politics. What were the politics behind the Obama Administration sanctions against Russia? Team Trumps response when THE FIVE returns.
GUILFOYLE: Back now with more on the Obama administration's hacking punishment for Russia. President-elect Trump soon to be White House Counselor, wonders if the sanctions were intended to restrict Mr. Trump's Russian policy?
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KELLYANNE CONWAY, COUNSELOR TO PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP: I was really disappointed to read in David Sanger's New York Times piece this evening the allegation of this supposition that perhaps one reason that the sanctions are taking place is to, quote, "box in President-elect Trump forcing him to take a position or otherwise once he takes office." I hope that this isn't motivated by politics even a little bit.
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GUILFOYLE: And Vladimir Putin says Russia has the right to retaliate but won't resort to, quote, "irresponsible kitchen diplomacy." Well, that won him praise from the President-elect in a tweet this afternoon saying he always knew President Putin was very smart. Have we talked about this, touched on it in the last block a little bit, Bolling? But, so, you see a little bit of this counter punch. But you see the President-elect lining up more with the response. I think for a reason. Meaning, he doesn't want to create a whole international situation prior to him taking office. He has his administration, his people coming in and they will then decide how we continue and go forward with Russia.
BOLLING: And remember when he was running, everyone said, oh my gosh! Donald Trump with his finger on the button. He will make spontaneous decisions, he will react - overreact. He will be too reactive and here he is where President Obama now, has slapped sanctions and Trump says, hold on a second, let's wait. January 20th comes in. We're going to deal with Israel, we're going to deal with Russia, we're going to deal with the oil and gas bann that Obama threw on America, and I think it's measured and I think it's smart. I mean, he can still, and not only embrace sanctions, but he can increase them if he finds it something's going on and something that's dangerous to America. This is great.
GUILFOYLE: Right. And guess what, that's his call. Right?
BOLLING: You want him or (INAUDIBLE) thought and have a longer thought process.
GUILFOYLE: Yeah, absolutely. I think it definitely is a plus.
WILLIAMS: I'm not mad at President-elect Trump by saying, you know, whatever, you know, that January 20th it will be different. We've been hearing this a lot recently. One President in this country at a time. And that works both ways, right? So, that could said, you know, until January 20th, President Obama shall lead as he sees fit and come January 20th, Donald Trump gets that same opportunity. So, I think any effort to box him in as Kellyanne was speaking about would be moot. I don't think that would be played well at all. But I do think -
GUILFOYLE: Or appropriate.
WILLIAMS: It wouldn't be. Obviously, very inappropriate. And I think it would be failed any ways, that was some kind of intention. But I think this is important, we have to get beyond the Partisan-ness of this particular issue. I think it's very, very important, because we can't be so anti-Obama that we become pro-Russia. And I think I'm seeing shades of that in some instances here where, you know, the connection to Vladimir Putin and all of that is kind of seeming in the face of Obama. And I think we need to be very clear about that.
GUILFOYLE: All right.
TYRUS: I agree. Looking at this, I feel like what we've been doing is talking about Russia, Russia, Russia. And I think, you know, what Donald Trump is doing - and I'm looking at it with Israel, with Russia. I feel like he's putting a super team together and, you know, I think ISIS and the Middle East should be a little nervous, because those are three of the best militaries in the universe, in the galaxy, and strong leadership, and strong presence. And I just - looking at it from a strategic point, I like to play chess, you know, I played football and stuff like that, looks to me like he is putting a squad together, it's going to be - maybe they don't agree on everything, but one or two things are getting straightened out. And I think the Middle East is in for a big punch in the mouth. So, I think the reason I just keep --
GUILFOYLE: That sounds like it hurts.
TYRUS: I think he is saying --
BOOTHE: Especially from him. Your arm is bigger than my --
GUILFOYLE: Just hit him with your necklace.
BOOTHE: My god.
TYRUS: If you look on our computer, Putin might be a little bit, don't do it again. But you're with me and we go over there and Israel's like, let's go. And I think big changes are going to happen and old things that happened in past are going to be left in the past for the future. And he keeps saying America first. Make America great again and having partners or dialogue with Russia and be on the same page with Israel and the Middle East is going to do really well for our country. I think that's the real story.
GUILFOYLE: That's the direction.
BOOTHE: But I think, to Eboni's point, I think the frustration or at least reason why there's some political connotations to this, is because it feels very political that President Obama is doing this on his way out when we've seen him really engage with Russia in sort of a weak manner and what we saw with basically --
WILLIAMS: I don't think this is still weak.
BOOTHE: Well, exactly. But I'm saying, it feels very political. The timing of it, the fact he sat on this and it seems very much an effort by the President of the United States to really box the incoming President on foreign policy to set him up for, you know, this fight, to set him up to, for the left to attack him depending what he decides to do with Russia. So, it feels very political in the sense that, you know, one, we've seen Russia do all these different things whether it's, you know, the imaginary four hacking, the joint chiefs of staff, shutting down the unclassified system for two weeks. But somehow, you know, this is what elicited a response, especially knowing the fact that we know that he sat on the information for quite some time.
WILLIAMS: Let me just respond quickly. To both his points, though, even if that's true, even if that's the intention, I think we do ourselves as a country a disservice by focusing only on that aspect. I think again, it's so important, it would be so inappropriate if indeed a bit of what this alleged activity by Russia, is true. We've got to focus on that. That's my response.
BOOTHE: Well, I don't disagree but it's also dangerous for the President to potentially be setting up the incoming President -
WILLIAMS: That's speculation, right?
BOOTHE: -- from a foreign policy standpoint, Gwen. But I'm saying that it feels like from a lot of you, but I don't - I don't disagree with you in the sense of cyber security is real. As I mentioned before, we've seen threats from Iranians, China, Russia. This is something we should take very seriously, which is why, I think the positive sign that, you know, Trump has identified that as an issue during the general election, is bringing people in that has an expertise in the area as well.
WILLIAMS: 100 percent.
BOLLING: There's a problem though. Lindsey Graham and John McCain, they bit - they bit hook line and sinker on Obama, for whatever reason, too. And it may have been, you know, there's a deep seeded long, long anti-Trump vein that runs through the two of them. They're pro-war - they're none -- as Trump is a non-interventionist, they're interventionist. They've never seen a war that they didn't want to get involved.
GUILFOYLE: But they have a deep-seeded hate before, bad acting by Russia, too.
BOLLING: I absolutely.
WILLIAMS: I don't think they have deep-seeded love for Obama either.
BOLLING: The left is trying to say, if you - if you even give Donald Trump a chance to make his own decisions, you must be pro-Russia. And that's not the case. My problem is that Lindsey Graham and McCain saying, we need to do more and I'm going to leave the fight before they even know what's going on. They boxed Donald Trump in a corner more than Obama did.
GUILFOYLE: But they do have - they are privy to all the intelligence briefings and, you know, of National Security issues. So, they've been very solid and consistent on this issue but it looks like Vladimir Putin is not going to allow President Obama to force him to take the bait on this.
BOLLING: Donald Trump is getting the same briefings and more that the senators are.
BOOTHE: When he's having the briefing next week, he announced that he's going to meet with intelligence officials next week, to talk to them about what we're talking about right now in Russia.
BOLLING: (INAUDIBLE) can they just keep their -- you know what, 22 days left for Obama, McCain and Graham could have done the same thing, wait 22 days. Let Trump --
WILLIAMS: But I think, Eric, does it -- could that possibly be them saying that, you know, they're not doing that for Obama. I mean, certainly not, right? So, maybe it's just them saying they're for them, like you said, this is a pre-existing thing that they have.
BOLLING: My concern it was - it was to, to, you know, make - look, they certainly made Donald Trump's decision January 20th a lot more difficult, if the two of them are out in front saying, we're going to push sanctions harder. That'd be hard for him not to go hard on --
WILLIAMS: On President Trump, OK.
TYRUS: But they've been against - fighting against Trump internally publicly. You know, I think - I think McCain -- and I have nothing but utmost respect for John McCain and I think he would have been a good President but he never really got the respect or votes. And he always seems to be like the last guy to OK, fine, who's not going to run. OK, McCain, you're in. You know, he was passed over. You know, it's not your turn. All that kind of stuff, so he kind of has that bitter old man attitude towards him and where Donald Trump just kind of walked in and he's getting all - he's got the whole thing, he's got the keys to the country. Basically, the keys to the world. And I think McCain is just - and is just dead set --
GUILFOYLE: But we would have been lucky to have him.
TYRUS: -- something is wrong. And I don't like it. He's just - he's been punched in the mouth a lot. He's been (INAUDIBLE) a lot.
GUILFOYLE: But guess what, he keeps getting up and he keeps fighting. I mean, the bottom line is the intelligence community is very concerned and with very good reason about Russia. If you think that Russia wants to kiss you on the mouth, they don't. They want to thank you in the -
GUILFOYLE: You've got to watch out for that.
WILLIAMS: That's what they want. Absolutely.
BOLLING: Listen, I agree on all fronts with the exception of the timing on it. Let's find out what actually happened and go hard on them if they were wrong.
GUILFOYLE: And Eboni, I must speak to your favorite person, Ambassador Bolton.
GUILFOYLE: Tonight, on the Hannity, OK. He's going to right there up in the (INAUDIBLE), so check it out.
All right. Ahead, we all know Mr. Trump likes to use Twitter to get his message across. When he's President, will he forego talking to the press and stick with social media instead. His incoming press secretary's answer, next.
WILLIAMS: Welcome back. President-elect Trump has made it very clear how he feels about the press.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I'll tell you honestly, I'm not running against crooked Hillary Clinton. I'm running against the crooked media. That's what I'm running against.
These very dishonest people back there, the media, they're getting a little worried. They're getting a little bit worried this wasn't supposed to happen.
Hey, press, turn the cameras. Show them, please. Show them. World's most dishonest people. These are dishonest people. Are any cameras - no, they're not turning. Look, they never turn. They never turn.
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WILLIAMS: But, when you're President of the United States, it is the job of the press to hold you accountable. But it's unclear whether the Trump White House will grant the media the same kind access they've been accustom to. Incoming Press Secretary, Sean Spicer, hints that the new administration may turn to social media instead of reporters.
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SEAN SPICER, INCOMING PRESS SECRETARY: I think the things that you've seen with Donald Trump is that he doesn't - he doesn't look to the past and say I've got to conform to these precedents. He figures out what's the best way. So, maybe we do, you know, a series of press conferences but maybe we'll do some town hall, you know, Facebook town halls. Maybe we go out and solicit inputs from Twitter while we have the sort of do these press conferences, because they're part of the fabric of our country, if you will.
There are also some new opportunities that we can be utilizing to bring more people into the process and have a conversation with the American people and not just limit it to the filter of the mainstream media.
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WILLIAMS: OK. K.G., this doesn't surprise me one bit. We saw Roosevelt come in with radio. In a way, we hadn't seen before, we saw Kennedy come in television, and now we see President Donald Trump be the master of social media.
GUILFOYLE: Absolutely, and I think it speaks to the transparency that he wants to have no filter between himself and the American people, the hard- working men and women that he said were left behind in this country that put him into the oval. And this just in from the President-elect who tweeted just now, because social media and Twitter essentially is his forum, "Russians are playing at CNN and at NBC News for such fools, funny to watch. They don't have a clue! @FoxNews totally gets it." So, sounds like someone's watching THE FIVE.
BOLLING: Maybe he is checking it out. And look, he -- I love the idea that he's taking his time, he's saying wait a minute, and Eboni, you make a very good point that just because he's not saying, we're going to slap massive sanctions on Russians, doesn't mean he wouldn't after he becomes President. But he's wisely waiting until January 20th to get all the evidence, put it all together and again, my biggest problem here is we have a couple of republicans --
BOOTHE: With me?
BOLLING: Senators. No. McCain and Graham and a couple others, some Congressmen who said, we need to do more. Let's wait. Let the man take the office before we make -- before we make any massive decisions on such a global scale.
TYRUS: But number one, he didn't start the job yet. And if I'm working at McDonald's, I'm not flipping burgers until I get there and clock in. So --
GUILFOYLE: Yeah, exactly.
BOLLING: Good point.
BOLLING: He's not on the clock yet.
TYRUS: So I'm going to this and I'm going to do that. You know, so, everyone can second guess him. And the Twitter thing, I think it's great, because what you have --
GUILFOYLE: So true.
WILLIAMS: And it's instant. It's so instant.
TYRUS: Now, Johnny Smith in North Dakota who's having an issue can send the President of the United States a tweet, and he might get it and might get hit back.
WILLIAMS: Yeah, and that's something we haven't seen before.
TYRUS: He's taking out the spin. He's taking out the career media guys who -- I'm not going to call it news anymore. It's not the news. What they do is they push their own agenda, he'll say the sky is blue and they'll say it was five shades of green by the time it gets to the media.
BOOTHE: Also, I think if this should be completely unsurprising, because we've seen President-elect Trump, is quite - and Hi! President-elect Trump. No, he is quite literally, you know, the most unconventional politician I think we have maybe ever have seen in American history. So, the fact that he is going to run an unconventional White House, the fact he is going to do things differently, and the fact, too, that he's essentially continuing -- as Kimberly, was saying earlier, continuing the things that he did on the campaign trail, you know, taking it directly to the people, whether it's Facebook live, on Twitter, doing these town halls, you know, speaking directly with the American people. Really should not be surprising to anyone.
GUILFOYLE: He really has no choice, though, because the mainstream media has been so dishonest. They have tried to, you know, shapeshift any kind of messaging statements that he's made. They didn't show the rallies. Any of the thousands of people showing up. They didn't want to show the truth.
And then everybody woke up on, you know, election day and said, "Oh, wait a second. Something was happening across this country" that they didn't predict, that they all got wrong.
So now he says, "I'm going to speak to you directly and to you and all of you across the country so there's no misunderstanding." And there's an immediacy of it versus a delayed reaction.
TYRUS: I could wake up tomorrow and be followed by, you know, president- elect: @PlanetTyrus. But you know what I'm saying? It could happen. To the average American, they'll be like, "Wow, this guy gets it. I have a voice."
BOLLING: Can I just throw one thing at you?
GUILFOYLE: There's still 21 days left. Twenty-one days left. In the last week and a half President Obama has thrown three things, three wrenches. Now, the Trump administration is out saying, "Look, we're working together with them, and it's great. And the transition is smooth."
However, it would be so much smoother if they would just focus for 21 days, the Obama administration, focus on making their life easier. Valerie Jarrett, Josh Earnest work with Spicer. And they say they are. But you know, instead of these initiatives -- these are major policy initiatives. Domestic with the oil and gas drilling; foreign policy, Israel, Russia. Enough already. I mean, he's done -- he's squeezed more foreign policy in three weeks or two weeks than he has in eight years. It's insane. Relax. Just a smooth transition.
WILLIAMS: Isn't it true that anything Trump really dislikes he can roll back? Right?
BOLLING: Of course. It makes it harder, though.
WILLIAMS: I just want to get this out. Because Spicer did say it will be true that they will hold some press conferences, Trump, President Trump. What do you think that's going to be like? Because I think that's going to be completely different than anything we've seen thus far.
TYRUS: It's going to be really well-behaved. Mr. President Trump, sir, may I ask a question?
BOLLING: Who knows? You know, the beauty and the reason why Donald Trump won the election is because he's different. As Lisa points out, he was the outside. He's done everything differently. I can't imagine what a press conference is going to be like. It will be -- it will be interesting. I'll guarantee that.
WILLIAMS: All right. Ahead, as 2016 winds down, we're going to take a look back at some of the biggest news stories that made headlines over the past year. And there were certainly plenty of them. Stay tuned. More "Five" up next.
BOOTHE: Kimberly was dancing.
2016 comes to an end tomorrow. It was a big year in the news, from our election to Brexit. Here's a look back at some of the year's biggest headlines.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The Associated Press is reporting now that Prince's publicist has confirmed the singer has died.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Are you with someone that's hit?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, I'm with somebody that's hit.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We stand with the people of Orlando who have endured a terrible attack on their city.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The British people have voted to leave the European Union.
JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: I'm here to give you an update on the FBI's investigation of Secretary Clinton's use of a personal e-mail system. We are expressing to justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.
MEGYN KELLY, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: What we are watching here is a situation in Dallas, Texas, that appears very grave.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All I know is that this -- this must stop. This divisiveness between our police and our citizens.
SHEPARD SMITH, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: There is breaking news now on FOX News Channel. I'm Shepard Smith on the FOX News deck, and it appears there has been an attack in France.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Star-spangled backlash. Forty-niners quarterback Colin Kaepernick refusing to rise for the national anthem on Friday night, because he says our country is racist.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Angelina Jolie filed for divorce from Brad Pitt.
BRET BAIER, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: This means that Donald Trump will be the 45th president of the United States.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE UNITED STATES: The forgotten men and women of our country will be forgotten no longer.
BOOTHE: So as everyone can see there, this has been a crazy year. A lot of chaos has happened, a lot of exciting things, a lot of heart-wrenching things, obviously, with the terrorist attacks, the Dallas shooting, crazy things, even the celebrities, Brangelina. So Eric, tell us. What's the -- what's been the story that's been the -- what's the most impact this year for you?
BOLLING: Hands down, Donald Trump's victory. And I'll dig deep into it in one second. But the deplorables won. He's going to drain the swamp, make America great again.
What he realized was that people were listening. He was a brand. He was an outsider; he was different. And they were ready for it. The timing was perfect.
But it also exposed the pundit class and the pollster class. The pundits were completely wrong. They were befuddled by this. They didn't see it coming. And then the polls were showing Hillary Clinton winning towards the end, throughout, and right up til the last minute. And I kept saying, you know, the polls aren't right, and I got bloodied for saying that. But the polls were saying one thing, and the people were saying something different. I said, "Keep your eye on the people." Donald Trump is a man of the people. He made it happen. The biggest story of the year.
GUILFOYLE: You stayed Braveheart strong, Bolling. Right?
BOLLING: It wasn't easy.
GUILFOYLE: No easy day.
BOOTHE: Kimberly, what's been the most impactful story for you?
GUILFOYLE: OK, there's so many to choose from. Obviously, the election. And because of the election, the great movement across this country, President-elect Donald Trump will pick at least two, possibly three United States Supreme Court justices.
Because with the passing of one of the greatest justices of all time, Antonin Scalia, there will be an opportunity now to put in the court someone who is very similar, a conservative jurist that will be basically in -- walk in the footsteps of Antonin Scalia. I think that's going to be very exciting.
What this means is, like, the liberal progressive agenda is DOA. Because Justice Stevens is not going to be able to hold any kind of majority, you know, going forward. And so I'm looking forward to that pick. And I think it will come soon in the administration.
BOOTHE: Not to mention, too, that I think there's, I think, three justices that are over the age of 70. So there could potentially be possibility for Donald-elect [SIC] Trump to, you know, pick another justice.
BOOTHE: Eboni, what -- what's your story?
WILLIAMS: Well, you know...
GUILFOYLE: What's your story?
BOOTHE: What's your life? So when you were born; I want to know everything. Viewers want to know everything.
WILLIAMS: No. So here's -- you know, this year, Eric hit the nail on the head. Obviously, Trump's election was huge.
But the kind of other big story for me for 2016 was this very troubled and heartbreaking relationship I see with my community and communities of color and law enforcement. And I think nothing hit home harder than what we saw happen in Dallas, the gunning down of those five Dallas officers, coming on the heels of two black men being killed, Orlando -- excuse me, one in Baton Rouge and one, Philando Castile, I think, in Missouri.
WILLIAMS: Minnesota. Thank you.
And then you see these law enforcement officers being gunned down in the streets. And that was no kind of answer. And we saw that from pretty much all across the board. And you saw -- I'm glad we showed, in the montage, the chief of police in Dallas really heartbroken. But both vulnerable, K.G., but also so strong.
GUILFOYLE: Yes. So strong.
WILLIAMS: In his positioning. And I think that was just a wake-up call for myself and everybody across this country to really tap into a better space, because we've got to do better by our people. We've got to do better by our law enforcement, because we need each other.
GUILFOYLE: And unifying this country. A strong message of unification and working with law enforcement and the men and women who put it on the line...
GUILFOYLE: ... every day in these communities to make them safe.
BOOTHE: And there really couldn't have been a better leader to kind of take Dallas and take the country through that time, as well. He just had such wise words, such calming words and such a presence that I think people so desperately needed. So that's a great one.
Tyrus, I'm not going to ask you what your story is, because that got weird. But out of some of the highlights that we saw and what would you pick?
TYRUS: Man, for me, probably the man of the year is the Grim Reaper, death. He cleaned up the celebrities this year. Like, it was crazy.
WILLIAMS: Oh, my goodness.
TYRUS: Prince, David Bowie, Alan Thicke, Gene Wilder -- "Stir Crazy," love that movie -- Muhammad Ali, Arnold Palmer, Zsa-Zsa Gabor, Carrie Fisher.
GUILFOYLE: Debbie Reynolds.
BOOTHE: George Michael.
TYRUS: He's working his last days. He's working, you know, a couple days left before, you know, so hopefully, he's done. But Death really did some work this year.
BOLLING: No doubt.
BOOTHE: So mine is kind of weird. But this has just been, like, such a chaotic year. Right? I mean, there's been such chaos. These huge election upsets. You know, all this political correctness and just so much stuff going on.
And I saw this meme on the Internet, and I thought it was really funny. And it said, Americans -- saying, "Americans" -- it's what they're saying - - "at least 2016 couldn't get any weirder." And then God says, "Bring -- send in the clowns."
And just -- so the reason I said that is just because, you know, we've had this crazy, chaotic year. And there was an insane story. And I saw this on a "Rolling Stone" list of some of the, you know, craziest things that have happened this year with all those clown sightings.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, the clowns.
BOOTHE: Probably should have said that first.
GUILFOYLE: We all hate clowns.
BOOTHE: There's a point where people were saying, "This year can't get any weirder." And then, clowns.
GUILFOYLE: Yes. Believe me, I had to cover this on "Is It Legal?" on "O'Reilly." The clown situation got so big. Anyway.
BOOTHE: I will have to watch it.
All right, guys. Well, don't move, because coming up next, Kimberly and Eric are going to tell us what's on tap for the big night tomorrow.
BOOTHE: Yes. They're hosting "All-American New Year" right here on the FOX News Channel, and they're fired up. And you're not going to want to miss it. So stay tuned.
GUILFOYLE: High-energy, Bolling. High-energy.
TYRUS: Welcome back to "The Five." The countdown is on. New Year's Eve is tomorrow. I'll be joining Kimberly and Eric as they ring in 2017 with you.
Of course, it's always a lot more fun when you have a date to kiss at midnight. And there's a hash tag trending now on Twitter called the New Year's Eve date requirements.
Here are some of my favorites. "Your mom can't pick us up or drop us off." "My date must be willing to get wine drunk with me and my cat."
GUILFOYLE: My gosh.
TYRUS: "Must have a pulse and, of course, smell good." "One, bring me a pizza, two, leave."
GUILFOYLE: Wow. That's really...
BOOTHE: Really setting the bar high there.
GUILFOYLE: I would never bring the pizza and leave. I mean, you want to eat the pizza.
BOOTHE: Or you could just eat it by yourself.
TYRUS: Well, the idea is to eat the pizza, watch some "Murder, She Wrote" and...
GUILFOYLE: "Murder, She Wrote"? Or cat videos.
TYRUS: And then after midnight, of course, you go home, because I have Bible study in the morning. So, you know...
GUILFOYLE: Some people do.
TYRUS: You know? So what would your -- you know what? What would your requirements be?
BOOTHE: For a date for New Year's? Or just for...
TYRUS: No, tax returns. Yes, a date.
BOOTHE: Like, you have to really actually be seriously dating someone to spend New Year's Eve with them.
WILLIAMS: I was going to ask, though. What about a -- what about a first date? Would you agree to that?
BOOTHE: No. It's too much. It's too much too soon. It's like taking someone to a wedding when you just started dating.
TYRUS: This is why...
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh.
TYRUS: Plant's down. Man down.
GUILFOYLE: Poinsettia down. On my leg!
TYRUS: This is why you don't ask...
BOOTHE: It tipped over.
TYRUS: This is why this is a trending topic. You can't ask women what they want. Please, Bolling, help us out.
BOLLING: I'm married for 18 years.
TYRUS: Back, in the day. Back in the day. What went down?
BOLLING: Back in the day, you definitely do not do a first date New Year's Eve. Because it's all weird. It gets a little too emotional, perhaps.
TYRUS: A lot of pressure. You don't want go in and she does this. You look like -- watch that. The thing and then...
GUILFOYLE: The eyeball.
TYRUS: You've got to, like, pop lock out and then, I was...
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.
BOOTHE: You can't get out of, like, a bad date. You have to be there at least til midnight.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, I think that's too awkward. Because then it's sort of like the mistletoe. You know what I mean?
GUILFOYLE: Christmas and, like, the mistletoe. New Year's Eve, the kiss. Remember what happened to me, Bolling?
BOLLING: Which -- can I make...
BOOTHE: What? I don't know.
BOLLING: Let me tell you, I advised you against that.
BOOTHE: Wait, can you tell us?
GUILFOYLE: The people wanted it. I had no choice. It was, like, 76 percent.
BOOTHE: You're a woman of the people.
BOLLING: I'll give you the story. So Kimberly texts me. She's like, "They want me to kiss my co-host." It wasn't me. It was someone else. "What do I do?"
I'm like, "I highly recommend you not kiss your co-host."
She's like, "But..."
GUILFOYLE: They don't know it was Bob.
BOLLING: It was Bob. Yes, and so the numbers came back 76 percent kiss Bob; 24, don't kiss Bob.
BOOTHE: Well, you've got to do it. That's a lot of people.
BOLLING: And so she kissed Bob.
GUILFOYLE: And what happened?
TYRUS: Was Bob around on his phone somewhere?
BOOTHE: The people spoke. Clear numbers. Clear majority.
GUILFOYLE: And then the problem is, like, the camera didn't catch it. They're like, "Oh, K.G., you've got to do it again." Oh, my gosh.
BOOTHE: Was that intentional?
GUILFOYLE: Well, you know, good thing I took a z pack before that, so I was already preemptive...
TYRUS: This is why dating is so tough. Because of this.
TYRUS: So -- you don't know what you want. Like, we're simple.
WILLIAMS: I know what I want.
TYRUS: Show up. Be open to suggestions.
TYRUS: And don't hang around.
GUILFOYLE: Men have low standards. Low -- low-quality...
TYRUS: We have standard standards. We are room temperature. Maintain.
BOOTHE: But the tips that were on there are, like, horrific. We're all way too old for, like, a mom or dad to come and drop us off.
WILLIAMS: I have one rule for New Year's Eve.
TYRUS: I want to hear a woman with one rule. This is amazing.
WILLIAMS: Just one rule.
TYRUS: Ground breaking, right here.
WILLIAMS: Take me somewhere that will warrant my beautiful New Year's Eve dress. Because I like to dress up, especially on New Year's Eve.
TYRUS: Gold digger. Sorry.
WILLIAMS: I don't know if you could be a gold digger when you got your own, though.
TYRUS: But you're expecting him to spend. Right? Because when the check comes, you're going to do this. You're going to do this, right?
BOOTHE: Eboni's pretty successful on her own. Right?
WILLIAMS: I could pay a couple bills.
GUILFOYLE: This year, Bolling, come on. New Year's Eve...
TYRUS: This is not supposed to be "Outnumbered." This is "The Five."
BOLLING: Hand me the shovel.
BOOTHE: As Trump would say, you're very smart.
GUILFOYLE: Now Bolling, so this New Year's Eve, because last year was so fantastic, and it was awesome to be with you, so we're going to blow it up again.
BOLLING: You doing it?
GUILFOYLE: Absolutely. So this is going to be fantastic. And not only that. We're going to be taking it down.
BOLLING: Here is what...
GUILFOYLE: We will be down with everybody.
BOLLING: At midnight, my beautiful wife, Adrienne, will be there. So she'll come up on stage and I'll kiss her at midnight, and then we'll have a group hug. We'll all kind of hug it out.
GUILFOYLE: You, me and Adrienne?
BOLLING: Yes, and if Geraldo (ph) is there, Ken, whoever is in the area. We'll give them a hug.
BOOTHE: Like Kimberly's (ph) night.
TYRUS: No hall passes given to Tyrus. I'll just be standing around.
GUILFOYLE: The producers usually find someone for me. Last year, I had two very sweet -- God bless them -- police officer brothers.
WILLIAMS: That's sweet. I like that.
GUILFOYLE: It was four. The producers are telling me it was four. There was just so many. There was just so many. But yes, it was very nice. It was like family, the whole deal. So that was -- they probably have a surprise in store for me, Bolling. Unless you know and you're not telling me.
BOLLING: No, I don't. I actually don't know a lot.
BOOTHE: See what the people want.
GUILFOYLE: I know. But it's going to be fun. Oh, and Gavin McGraw, he's going to be there.
WILLIAMS: He's performing? That's awesome.
GUILFOYLE: So that's going to be cool.
BOLLING: Do we have Ban Ki-Moon? Do we have that?
GUILFOYLE: Yes. So there's going to be a whole...
BOLLING: We do have Ban Ki-Moon.
GUILFOYLE: ... U.N. interrogation situation. About to go "La Femme Nikita."
TYRUS: This has been amazing. I feel so happy for people dating out there.
"One More Thing" is up next.
BOLLING: All right. Time for "One More Thing." I'm going to kick it off quickly tonight. "O'Reilly," I'll be hosting that, last day of a couple of weeks of "Hannity" and "O'Reilly." Had a great time.
But check this out. So my friends at IJR Review sent this to me today. Remember, yesterday, we found out that 138 cops had been killed in action through this year. A massive jump.
Today, IJR Review says, "Check this out." Do you know what's hanging in the halls of Congress, the U.S. Capitol? That painting right there. And it depicts two cops, both animals, one of them a pig, aiming a gun at an African-American guy, whatever.
I think this is absolutely disgusting that this would be hanging in the U.S. Capitol. It turns out a representative, Democrat from Missouri, Lacy Clay, is the congressman who had some sort of art contest. And the winner was this painter who pointed this picture.
Lacy Clay was contacted by our producers today. He said, "We're not taking it down, because it was a contest."
Here's what I say to you, take it down, Lacy. Take it down. And I'm saying this to 3 million people who are watching right now. Call your congressman or call Lacy Clay's office and say, "Get that picture down." Cops do not need to be depicted in this way.
GUILFOYLE: I agree.
BOLLING: Blue lives matter.
TYRUS: Well, if would you would have it switched it, if you would have had a cop shooting a gorilla, I would be furious and would want to take it down.
BOLLING: Let me bring K.G. in.
GUILFOYLE: And on a lighter, delicious note, time now for...
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GUILFOYLE: "Kimberly's Food Court."
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GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God. I love it. Celebrating National Bacon Day today. I've been excited about this all day, because it just started out with "FOX and Friends" and bacon.
We've got some very special bacon here from our very good friends at the unofficial FOX News diner, Evergreen.
Now, Evergreen Diner is sadly closing tomorrow after 25 amazing years. Their food, speed of service and staff are unmatched. Total winners. We'd like to give a shout-out to the owners, Tommy and Elias (ph), pictured here.
And another name, John, thank you so much for seating so many of us at FOX News for so many years. You really, truly will be missed. God bless you and your families.
And I'm going to tell you something: this bacon is delicious. I ate two pieces of it. Mmm.
Also, I'm going to be on "Hannity" tonight. And we have amazing, amazing guests. We have Ambassador John Bolton. We have Eric Bolling. You're going to love it. So please tune in. It's going to be fantastic. We're excited about it.
Yes, Bolling. And amazing.
BOLLING: They're moving me along here a little. It's going to be great. Stay tuned for "Hannity," as well.
Lisa, you're up.
BOOTHE: I don't know how you follow bacon. But I saw this story on the interwebs and thought it was absolutely hilarious.
Basically, what it is, is a high school student, presumably, is texting both of his parents to see if he can go to a high school football game. So I want you to look at the text message to his mother. And I saw this, and I thought it was hilarious, because this is basically my exchanges with my parents.
You look at the mother. He asked her, "Can I go to the football game later?"
"What time until?"
"Seven to 9, but we're going to go earlier, because they've giving out shirts."
"Home by 9, probably 5:30, 6 or later. After 6, home by 9."
So obviously, basically, a series of responses. I don't know about you guys. Mom, I love you so very much. But when I text you, there's just a lot of questions that are responded back to me. It's never quick.
So I wanted to show you the response from the dad. "Yes."
BOLLING: There you go. There you go.
BOOTHE: And that's basically my parents.
BOLLING: Eboni, you're up.
WILLIAMS: Yes, real quick. OK, so 2016, one of the big Internet things we saw, all of the mannequin challenges. Right? So this was an awesome one. You talk about taking the mannequin challenge to whole other level. These were four astronauts. They are just giving mannequin challenge realness here.
And one of them tweets out, "We got the whole crew together and took this mannequin challenge to new heights. Hashtag #proxima." I mean, that is so awesome. I mean, I just am so fascinated. Can you imagine how much work they do? And this was on their one day off.
We should do that here.
BOLLING: Let's get Tyrus in here, brother. What have you got?
GUILFOYLE: He's eating all my bacon.
TYRUS: This is For the record.
WILLIAMS: For the record.
TYRUS: And the police don't get a lot of feel-good stories. They get a lot of bad press. And this was an awesome thing. And this is something we need more of. A Texas police officer decided to give a teenager a second chance after catching -- he caught him smoking pot in a movie theater in a parking lot. And avoid a trip to the police station, which is the way he wants to go. And a marijuana citation on his permanent record.
He gave him a chance to do 200 push-ups or go to jail. And it took him a while, but he got there.
WILLIAMS: I like a nice deferred sentence.
GUILFOYLE: I love it.
WILLIAMS: Yes, that's good.
TYRUS: Want to settle out of court?
TYRUS: I'm down with that.
GUILFOYLE: These what police officers do in the community. And that leaves a lasting impression. I love it. Push it up, baby.
TYRUS: Give it up.
BOLLING: We've got to leave it right there. Good job, everybody. That's it for us. Happy new year, everyone. Please don't forget to join Kimberly and I tomorrow night as we countdown to 2017. Coverage begins at 8 p.m. Eastern. "Special Report" coming up in ten, nine, eight, seven, six, five, four, three...
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