This is a rush transcript from "The Five," December 16, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Eric Bolling along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Juan Williams, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. We're having a little conversation right before the show started.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: We were.
BOLLING: It's 5 o'clock in New York City and this is "The Five." We have new developments on Russia's alleged hacking into the election. Fox News confirming that James Comey and the director of National Intelligence James Clapper do agree with the CIA's assessment that Russia intervened in the election to help Trump win.
This as new reports say president Obama was aware of the alleged meddling months ago but intentionally kept the information quiet because he thought Hillary Clinton was going to win. This afternoon, the president weighed in.
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BARACK OBAMA, UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: I felt that the most effective way to ensure that that didn't happen was to talk to him directly and tell him to cut it out. There were going to be some serious consequences if he didn't. And in fact, we did not see further tampering of the election process. I'm finding it a little curious that everybody said my acting surprised that this looked like it was disadvantaging Hillary Clinton because you guys wrote about it every day. This was an obsession that dominated the news coverage.
My principal goal leading up to the election was making sure that the election itself went off without a hitch and we accomplished that.
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BOLLING: When it comes to dealing with Russia, President Obama says the United States needs to be cautious with how we react.
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OBAMA: We went out there and made big announcements and thumped our chests about a bunch of stuff that somehow that would potentially spook the Russians. The relationship between us and Russia has deteriorated. So, how we approach an appropriate response that increases costs for them for behavior like this in the future but does not create problems for us. There were times where the message will go -- will be directly received by the Russians and not publicized.
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BOLLING: Al right, KG, I got to man up here and say yesterday I said the FBI didn't agree with the CIA and Clapper. Juan was accurate. He said they did. Here is my question though. Everyone knows Russia is hacking. Everyone knows China is hacking. Is there any indication that it actually did influence the election?
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Well, President Obama said in fact there was no evidence or indicia of actual voter fraud in terms of tampering with any of the systems in the United States in terms of how people cast their vote. So then it remains to be seen for those that are wildly speculative as to whether or not any of the information released that was truthful -- no one is saying it's not truthful -- did in fact influence the way that the voters decided to choose for president. But I ask you this.
President Obama, this is his house, this is the house he has been in for eight years, had ample opportunity to make sure that State Department systems, U.S. government e-mail systems all were safe and intact and adequately protected from cyber attacks. And if there was evidence and warnings that this in fact was occurring, he should have actually done something to stop it instead of going like this. Russia, are you scared now? Like thumping the chest. At what point?
BOLLING: You were right. I stand corrected from yesterday. This is new information. But let me ask you this. Why don't we get the evidence? They all say, yes, we are in agreement, but how about the American people see some of the evidence?
JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: Well, I think the evidence is forthcoming, but the question -- and it may not satisfy you when the report is released -- but the question is, is it concrete? Is it something that you can say, you know, here is the smoking gun. We see where Russia actually did it? As the president said at his news conference today, sometimes these folks have shadow actors or blind people, and then you have to try to trace it back and all that.
But I thought it was compelling when he said, you know, there's no question -- you don't see the Russians doing something without Vladimir Putin being in charge of it. That he is in control of that entire government. So what interested me and where I was wrong yesterday was I was pretty angry yesterday at President Obama because it looked to me like he had just sat on his hands while this was going on and he had the opportunity to say to the American people the Russians are trying to influence and distort and American election and he chose not to do it.
Now today he comes forward and said, well, I tried to play it straight here and I'm paraphrasing, but he said play it straight. That if he had said in an emphatic way the Russians are doing this, it would have seemed to most, you know, Republicans or (inaudible) he said he was just being partisan and in his words it would have become part of the political scrum. So he says he thinks they handled it just right. I still am not convinced of that.
BOLLING: Yes, but Dana, if they did know way back when before the election, why did they do nothing? Why now President Obama today says, hey, I told Putin, cut it out or else.
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Well, I'm not sure about any of this and the timing of it. And I don't understand exactly what they're trying to accomplish by talking about it now. If it's -- it's for the sake of transparency? Okay. Or to prevent it from happening in the future, I get that. Clarity, that would be good. Or is it to de-legitimatize and play down the win of Donald Trump in the election?
The other thing is if the CIA memo that brought this all to light leaked but it was not -- when those memos go out to staff, they know it's going to leak. It see seems there might be some political appointees who are leaving the agencies who are going to be transitioning out who wanted to get this information out there in some way. I understand also President Obama saying he didn't want to escalate a cyber war.
But it seems like if this was happening, then -- I don't know what the further escalation is. I mean, I watched "Madame Secretary," you can shut down their electricity grid in Moscow. Bu it just seems to me that if it had happened to the Republicans, the Republicans would be mad. Interestingly on the front page of the "Wall Street Journal" today is the story that says the RNC was able to thwart the hacking attempt by the Russians.
PERINO: So maybe they were trying to hack the Republicans as well.
BOLLING: One of the most concerning things that very long press conference. I think it was more than an hour and a half. At one point President Obama said, hey, we're not that sophisticated. It's kind of easy to hack us.
BOLLING: Well, yes, except for everyone wants to hack us. What's the answer? I mean, we just need to spend a ton of money on cyber security?
GUTFELD: They did hack our military back, was it August 2015? They tried to seize the e-mails of, I guess it was our Joint Chief of Staff.
GUILFOYLE: And White House in 2014 with ample notice.
GUTFELD: It's a forever game for the Russians. Right now they're high fiving, but we can't just think that it's going to end here. They're going to do the Democrats, they're going to do the Republicans, they're going to do everybody. But there's a theme that he hit on that kind of bugged me. He kept talking about the polarization and the division, which is there, there's no question it's there.
But it culminated during his reign. The division deepened while he was president and so it's like him complaining about polarization is like a refinery complaining about pollution. He actually created a lot of it. The thing is, that doesn't bother me about the whole idea about people favoring Putin over Hillary and whatnot. It's Assange. It breaks my hearts to see conservatives trusting Assange over our intelligence agency.
Assange is probably one of the most anti-American activist on the planet. He leaked names and addresses of Afghan civilians who were cooperating with NATO against the Taliban. He claimed WikiLeaks uncovered, you know, thousands of American atrocities. He compared Gitmo to Auschwitz. He praises Hezbollah. This is a guy who leaked a stolen memo of some kind of an Army device that jammed IED's, and we're calling him a hero? I mean when president Obama said, Reagan is rolling in his --
BOLLING: Let's do this. Stay right there because you very accurately pointed out divisions that are being pushed, pedaled. You're talking about Assange being praised by conservatives. President Obama widening the divide -- let's skip this one to the flow to script -- there we go. President Obama widening the divide. Listen to this.
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OBAMA: There was a survey that some of you saw where -- now, this is just one poll but a pretty credible source -- 37 percent of Republican voters approve of Putin. Over a third of Republican voters approve of Vladimir Putin, the former head of the KGB. Ronald Reagan would roll over in his grave.
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BOLLING: So Greg, now, liberals are saying, wait a minute, Assange was ours and Republicans are saying, but Reagan is ours. It's all flipped.
GUTFELD: It is flipped, and he is right. I think President Reagan if we're allowed (inaudible), I can't believe this is happening. I mean, you know, tore down the wall. What happened to that? The end of communism. Now, we're embracing the head -- the former head of the KGB. I mean, you have to be the mirror equation. Replace Russia with Mexico. Replace Trump with Hillary. Mexico tampered with the election to get Hillary in. We would be flipping out. So, he's got a point.
BOLLING: Build a wall on Canada.
BOLLING: Dana, your thoughts on President Obama invoking Ronald Reagan suggesting that I guess the Conservative Party or the Republicans are not the party of Reagan?
PERINO: Well the one thing I thought of was -- everybody tries to use Reagan, right. And he has done this before. All the presidential candidates on the Republican side invoked Reagan at some point. Everybody tries to use his legacy. But it started out in Obama's administration that he wanted warmer relations with Russia. And actually go back to 2001, George W. Bush wanted warmer relations with Russia. It's fool's errand. It doesn't work and so, I don't know what's going to happen in the next round.
BOLLING: Juan, what do you think? Is there an opportunity as Dana points out to have warmer -- is it OK to have warmer relations with Putin?
WILLIAMS: If there's some payoff. I mean the idea is they're a nuclear power. There was the potential for them to join with a new kind of alignment in Europe at one point and to spread Western Europe towards the east. But Putin is not a player. I mean he's a player, but he's not a fair player. And he's not interested in any kind of an alliance. He is not interested in domination.
I think that's what we're going to talk about later in terms of his action in Syria. He's not interested in peace. He is just interested in making it clear that the former Soviet Union is still a power in this world and they shouldn't be looked down upon.
BOLLING: Final thought there KG.
GUILFOYLE: OK. That's for sure. That's his objective. That's his mission objective and his goal and focus. And then we have ours. And that's why it's so crucially important to make sure you have the right people in place that know how to handle them, that are going to be strong and actually follow through so there's that level of fear and respect at the same time that he knows that if we say enough is enough that there will be consequences.
So that's going to be the job, we'll see, of the future Secretary of State that's been nominated, Rex Tillerson, amongst others to be able to negotiate and talk to him. At least he has some past history and dealings and he knows exactly who's going to be across the table from him so he will be nobody's fool. Again, the importance of that pick.
BOLLING: All right, very good. We'll leave it right there. Next, we turn our focus to the humanitarian crisis in Syria. Many say this will be the biggest stain on the president and President Obama's legacy. His response to that, next. And later, Facebook Friday. Post your questions for us on our Facebook page, facebook.com/thefivefnc. We will be right back.
PERINO: New developments on the crisis in Syria. The evacuation of thousands of refugees desperate to get out of Aleppo has been suspended. This comes after Syrian government forces allegedly opened fire on a humanitarian convoy. There are still thousands of people trapped inside the war torn city including women and young children. The Obama administration is back on the defense over its Syria policy in the wake of the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo. At his final press conference, president Obama addressed the United States' role in the region.
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OBAMA: Responsibility for this brutality lies in one place alone. It would be Assad regime and its allies, Russia and Iran. And this blood and these atrocities are on their hands. The United States continues to be the world's largest donor of humanitarian to the Syrian people. And beyond that, there needs to be a broader cease-fire that can serve as the basis for a political rather than a military solution. That's what the United States is going to continue to push for, both with our partners and through multilateral institutions like the U.N.
Although you may achieve tactical victories over the long-term, the Assad regime cannot slaughter its way to legitimacy.
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PERINO: While President Obama stands firm on his strategy in Syria, Charles Krauthammer argues this will be one of the greatest downfalls of his presidency.
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CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Obama imagines that the Obama deal is his legacy. It is not. Aleppo is his legacy. History will remember this as kind of a symbolism of the whole policy of retreat and the inevitable outcome. The only thing that could have stopped this ultimately would have been some kind of deterrent from the United States, warning from the United States to keep the Russians out. We didn't, and now we have what we have.
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PERINO: Greg, in regards to that evacuation, so apparently the Russians -- maybe there was confusion on the ground, fog of war. But they put out notices today that the evacuation was complete. So, then people were returning to their homes because they had no way to get out.
GUTFELD: Yes, this rhymes with pit show. What can you do? I mean there's nothing -- there's nothing you can do or say. Aleppo -- this whole thing was allowed to unravel because of president Obama's desire for a legacy through an Iran treaty. He was busy watering the plant while the house next door was on fire. He could have just hosed it down.
And we also talked about diplomacy. What's the common link in all of -- I guess this administration's recent gaffes and embarrassments? A guy named Kerry. I return to that James Taylor moment where he brought a folk singer to a terror attack. There is this dangerous naivet, of the pliant (ph) left that seems to show up wherever there is a disaster.
There's misunderstanding of how to deal with kind of the sober realities of the world, that if you just talk it out with them, everything's going to be fine. And sometimes they just don't understand talk than action.
PERINO: Today, President Obama, Eric, said that he takes responsibility for what's happening in Syria.
BOLLING: And he should not because -- and I completely agree with his policy. That's the weird thing, is I completely think that we need to have political solutions rather than military solutions in the Middle East specifically in Syria. Add humanitarian aid, but I just am against a military action there.
But it's his fault because he was the one who drew the chemical red line, allowed it to be breached and did nothing. Again, I'm all for you president. If you want to go, go. If you don't want to go, I'm behind you as well. But whatever you decide to do, make sure you tell the world and let Syria know that you mean what you say. I agree with Greg on John Kerry.
I think he's the most incompetent Secretary Of State probably in our lifetime if not longer. I disagree with you hosing down the next door neighbor's house when it's on fire because the difference here is when you hose, you're putting yourself -- you're putting Americans at risk. I'm against doing that. And by the way, when you put that house out, the house next door is going to be on fire and then the next door. Eventually --
GUILFOYLE: But the whole idea of combating fires is not being an arson investigator and the prosecutor at the D.A. offices. You put out that fire so it doesn't spread. The problem is, President Obama has this feckless foreign policy. He drew a line that he had no intention of in fact enforcing.
And then what we see now, the result is, the fall of Aleppo and Syria and Assad has no ability with its sole military sources to hold and control that city in Aleppo, which is key to all of Syria. So this is a big problem here because he didn't act. Now we have a situation where you cannot rule out military action because it is that far gone. So he created this situation.
Charles Krauthammer is right. And now it's a mess and unless we do something to help there, if you don't control and deal with it there, then they want to come here. And that's not going to solve any problems either in terms of the refugees and everybody being displaced. So unfortunately, president-elect Trump is inheriting the mess of this disastrous legacy of President Obama, and the world is suffering.
PERINO: Juan, when you think about the next 40 days, I mean this evacuation is happening as we speak and the administration is wrapping things up and a new one is coming in, but can we really wait to do more?
WILLIAMS: Well, it seems to me that it's already a done deal. Assad has won, and that's probably to me the most tragic aspect of this all because if you will recall the Russians came in when we saw the rebels having some success and then Assad and the Russians respond and the United States does not act at that moment.
Now, the way I think about this is, so what could the U.S. have reasonably done? If you remember, Hillary Clinton had the idea of no-fly zones to try to keep the Russians out, also to stop that kind of not only attack on civilians but attacks that were against the rebels who were opposing Assad. President Obama decided no because then if you impose that, then you're potentially in conflict with the Russians, and the question is how are you going to resolve that down the line?
And I suppose that's the way he was thinking. Today at the press conference, what he says is, you know, we cared and he has -- he was very effusive in saying that a lot of situations where he goes to bed at night knowing that children are suffering and dying who don't deserve it. But how much do you put the United States at risk in order to resolve those issues? This is Eric's point, I agree. I understand.
But I do think that at some point in this one, I just can't stomach Assad winning after all the destruction, the murders. I just think -- I mean the ongoing situation with the evacuation, what is that but a slaughter?
GUTFELD: The only other -- like when you say you can't stomach Assad's victory, imagine if it were ISIS. That's the only other -- if there's a silver ling somewhere in this horrible, horrible mess that ISIS --
WILLIAMS: Remember, there was a rebel group that the United States tried to fight --
WILLIAMS: -- and if we had maybe done a better job -- I don't --
GUILFYLE: I agree. They weren't properly supported.
BOLLING: Some of those ended up going to ISIS.
WILLIAMS: I know, that's why --
PERINO: It's like they didn't have any support. They didn't have the choice.
GUILFOYLE: And then who's stepping in? Hezbollah, Iran Elite Guard, Russia with military advisers, armored support -- all of that and because of the leadership vacuum --
PERINO: We're going to keep talking about this because coming up on "The Five," how does president-elect Trump plan to handle the terrible situation he is inheriting in Syria? We have details, next.
GUILFOYLE: As Aleppo lies in ruins thanks to the Obama administration's failed strategy, president-elect Trump offers his plan to help end the nightmare in Syria.
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT-ELECT: I will build safe zones in Syria. When I look at what's going on in Syria, it's so sad. It's so sad. And we got to help people. And we have the Gulf States. They have nothing but money. We don't have money. We owe $20 trillion. I will get the Gulf States to give us lots of money, and we we'll build and help build safe zones in Syria so people can have a chance.
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GUILFOYLE: OK. So obviously, the president-elect is sympathetic to the humanitarian crisis that is occurring in Aleppo, in Syria. He wants do something about it. Obviously he wants other people to partner and he's mentioning the Gulf States that could be helpful in creating safe zones there.
BOLLING: One of the things I really like about Donald Trump is his non- interventionist strategies. He was out there saying, you know, I was against the Iraq war, I was against getting involved in these Middle Eastern conflicts, and I hope he stays by that. I hope he sticks with that. I agree with him. He needs to provide aid. These people need aid. We are the richest country in the world. We can afford these guys. We can afford the help. We also need to do -- we have to have politics get involved. We need a good secretary of state as you pointed out.
And if it really gets bad and there's continued humanitarian atrocities going on, slap some sanctions. Slap sanctions on anyone who's trading with Syria. And guess who trades with Syria. Iran and Russia. And just play that game. We already have sanctions with Iran and with Russia. Kick them up a notch. We can do that.
GUILFOYLE: All right Dana, what is the framework for a solution here in Aleppo?
PERINO: I think it's really complicated actually. Michael Hanlon writes in the "Wall Street Journal" today about an idea to partition the country into four -- because there's not a shred of trust left by the people who were fighting against Assad. And if he's going to remain in power, then there probably has to be a separation. But then how do you enforce that? And will he let them go?
I think what this shows is that there are consequences for actions, but there are also consequences for inaction. And I think the best thing to do is to listen to the military and the State Department and say, what's possible and what you think would matter and then try to push forward on that. The other thing is the key piece is this Iran deal.
And it does seem pretty clear that all these decisions we've been making have been to not ruffle the feathers of Iran. And if that is our highest concern that they are going to create a nuclear weapon and we want to help them and prevent that or whatever, then let's just be really honest about what it means in terms of the consequences for other people in the region.
GUILFOYLE: Let's also be really honest about the fact that they already have the capacity to do so. We just helped fund it by giving them money that we shouldn't have done a deal with them. So Greg, what do you think we should do here?
GUTFELD: The problem is nobody can keep the players straight. And I think that's what -- there's no clear-cut side. If you kill "X," you help "Y." If you kill "Y," then you help "X." And you don't want to help either of them, so who do you kill? It's not about who to help. It's about who to kill. Let's be honest.
The reason why America is the most powerful country in the world is that we kill better than anybody else. We have to face the ugly fact that like that house on fire, failed countries often create migration chaos and general chaos. It ends up hitting us. And at some point it's not just diplomacy. It's not just the carrot; it's the stick.
The good news is maybe -- and again, this is -- I'm speculating, is that you're sending an oil man to deal with an oil man. And I don't think there's going to be any folk singing between Rex and Vlad. Because we're talking about Syria, which is a proxy for Russia. So maybe by not having the typical liberal naive type going there, but you have a guy that's like, "Look, we know this is about. This is about oil. So let's just talk about the oil. And I swear to God, I won't send James Taylor."
GUILFOYLE: Well, that's why it's a smart move. You don't send somebody who's an international neophyte into an area to go face the former head of the KGB. You send a pro and someone who knows exactly who their opponent is. And you handle it that way -- Juan.
WILLIAMS: You mean we shouldn't send Trump? We've got to send Trump. He doesn't know anything about foreign policy.
GUILFOYLE: I'm referring to Rex Tillerson.
WILLIAMS: But I would never call him a neophyte.
GUILFOYLE: I'm referring to Rex Tillerson.
WILLIAMS: I was teasing you. So anyway I just think, look, I think Trump's idea is this: one, safe zones. Right? That's his big idea. Safe zones. And two, bring in the Russians that work with the Russians, collaborate with the Russians and we can get this solved.
But with safe zones, you've got to enforce it. It's just like the no-fly zone. Somebody's got to get around and say, "This is a safe zone, and we're going to protect it." Well, if that's the case, then basically, you're back to Eric's point: Are you willing to put troops on the ground?
And when it comes to working with the Russians, I don't know why we've got to work with the Russians? Why would we trust the Russians that they would do anything but further secure Assad...
GUILFOYLE: You just contradicted yourself. You just said we should work with the Russians to come up with a solution with respect to Syria.
WILLIAMS: No. I never said...
BOLLING: He said Trump's idea. But...
WILLIAMS: I think, no, collaboration...
BOLLING: You know how you work with the Russians and you know how you work with the Iranians? Cut off their money supply. And that is our -- that is our strongest weapon.
WILLIAMS: Wait. The president made the point today, we already have lots of sanctions on the Russians.
BOLLING: Oh, oh, oh, oh. We can step up sanctions. Right now we have sanctions on a handful of some of Putin's closest advisors. You can expand that out and make it bigger. Widen the sanctions.
And by the way, what's the one thing that both Russia and Iran need? They need a high oil price. If we start drilling -- this is brilliant strategy by -- by President-elect Trump. If we don't need Russia or Iran for their oil, they're not depending on us anymore, and we're not depending on them anymore. This is how. You lean on them monetarily.
GUILFOYLE: Energy independence is part of the equation.
WILLIAMS: I don't think you can trust the Russians. And I think that's the key to what Trump is proposing, in addition to the safe zone. So I'm not saying work with the Russians. On the contrary, I'm saying, I don't see why Trump wants to put so much trust in the Russians.
GUILFOYLE: Well, I think he's saying that. I think he's putting someone who knows how to deal with them, that's dealt with them before, so has the expertise. And he's saying energy independence is part of the equation to having this strength through diplomacy. You have to have leverage. You cannot be a weak nation.
WILLIAMS: But I think making -- making profits is different than achieving peace and a solution that is appealing, protects people and protects the international order in the Middle East.
GUILFOYLE: All right. OK, and up next, the left-stream media's meltdown over President-elect Trump continues. You won't believe to whom they are comparing our next commander in chief.
WILLIAMS: Five weeks after winning the election, some in the mainstream media still upset over President-elect Donald Trump's victory. But are they crossing the line now?
New reports in The New York Times and The Daily Beast tying Mr. Trump's win to Amazon's Nazi series "The Man in the High Castle." And Jamelle Bouie, chief political correspondent for Slate, compares the president-elect to Dylann Roof, who was just convicted in the murder of nine black church members in Charleston.
Here I'm quoting: "Yes, Roof will face justice. But the ideas that radicalized him will thrive, not just as an amorphous force in American life, but as an active presence in American politics. They will thrive in the West Wing. They will thrive from the Oval Office. They will thrive in rebuke to Barack Obama himself."
I would imagine that you're agitated over this. (UNINTELLIGIBLE) your stomach.
GUTFELD: I'm agitated because you forced me to read something in Slate. I mean, I try -- you know, life is too short to read stuff like that.
And by the way, if Hitler didn't exist, the far left would have to invent him to find something to compare Republicans to. Because they have -- they have been always up front.
And I will say, you know, both sides, right and left, we all have our creeps. But the difference is the left has been demonizing the opposition much longer, since the 1960s, I think, since the radical left really came out. And it took some time for people on the right to catch up. But they're still -- they're, like -- they're in the Olympic level of demonizing people. But they should branch out. Not just Hitler. Why not Stalin? Mao? They killed more people than Hitler. You know?
WILLIAMS: Good point. Good point. But let's take this seriously for a second.
GUTFELD: I was.
WILLIAMS: Dana, let's just say -- because I know that, for example, I think what Jamelle Bouie and I think what a lot of these people who are -- I agree with Greg, by the way. I think it's far too extreme to talk about "The Man in the High Castle" -- like the country has become some Nazi regime.
But let's take it seriously for a second. Is it fair to say that Trump stirred up white nationalists' anxieties in this society, and therefore, when people draw this analogy, they're just trying to say, hey, this is worrisome; we shouldn't be going in this direction?
PERINO: Well, I think if you stopped at the -- at your reasonable lead-in to that question, yes. Like, possibly that could be said. But this is obviously taking it way too far. And I think what the left is doing, they're making themselves so irrelevant. And they're pushing people who wouldn't necessarily have been for Trump, like, to think, "You know what? You're pushing me into his corner. You're pushing me into supporting Trump and defending him, because you're being so ridiculous.
BOLLING: So my first thought was since when is it OK to compare the president-elect to Hitler? And have that kind of heightened rhetoric. And then I realized, it's been going on for the last year and a half on both sides.
BOLLING: And somehow I also realize that this will end up probably playing in President-elect and President Donald Trump's favor. Because the more egregious and outrageous you get with him, he wins. He comes back and points out -- and by the way, if he doesn't, you know who will? This guy will end up on Tucker's show, and Tucker will eat him alive and spit him out.
WILLIAMS: Well, you know, but the thing is, I -- you know I live in D.C. And there was a story about how a white nationalist group had a party at Maggiano's, an Italian restaurant, afterwards. And I think Tila Tequila, that lady was there, and they were giving the Nazi salute.
GUILFOYLE: I mean, this is just so...
WILLIAMS: So my point is...
BOLLING: Therefore -- therefore...
WILLIAMS: My point to you is...
BOLLING: Trump and the whole right is part of the alt-right movement.
WILLIAMS: No. No, I would totally disavow that. But I'm saying to you, and to you, Kimberly, there's some reality to this. Right?
GUILFOYLE: No. There isn't, actually. I think it's ridiculous. And I think if anybody is dividing the country and demonizing, it's the left. And it's Hillary Clinton by calling hard-working men and women that felt that they were left behind deplorable, the basket of deplorables. They're irredeemable.
She's the one that started this. And finishing it off from President Obama and his administration and the Justice Department and inciting these racial divides throughout this country. We saw it in riots and whatnot. And basically, a war against the police department and the military. And, you know, it's enough already. And it's so sad, because all you can do is cite some crazed lunatic, washed-up has-been Tila Tequila as prove that this is what's happening in this country, against the president?
WILLIAMS: Well, no, it's bigger than that.
WILLIAMS: Even the Holocaust Museum said very clearly they condemn this National Policy Institute, Richard Spencer. People like that, who have been stirred up. And I don't think there's any question they have been stirred up. The real issue here is, can you then...
GUILFOYLE: Who's the one stirring the pot?
WILLIAMS: ... in large-- Who are the white nationalists? I don't know. But I just...
GUILFOYLE: No. That's not what I'm talking about.
GUTFELD: Tila Tequila, she's not even white, is she?
WILLIAMS: No, I mean, wow.
PERINO: I never heard of her.
GUILFOYLE: Again the absurdity of bringing this up.
GUTFELD: Oh, come on. You have a poster of her in your house.
WILLIAMS: Oh, my goodness.
GUTFELD: Don't you remember Tila Tequila?
BOLLING: I do.
WILLIAMS: All right.
WILLIAMS: Look, we're not -- we're never going to remember her at this point. So don't go away, because "Facebook Friday" coming at you for the Christmas season.
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GUILFOYLE: What is that?
"Facebook Friday," we're answering your questions. This is a great one, because everybody is uncomfortable about that. So I'm going to start with you -- should I start with you, Kimberly?
GUILFOYLE: Why not torture me some more?
GUTFELD: All right. Dennis S. asks, "If you could see someone's e-mails, who would you like to peak at and why?"
GUILFOYLE: Obviously, you, little weirdo. Because you're so worried about it, and you talk about it all the time.
GUTFELD: That is true. That is true.
GUILFOYLE: But then, I probably would recognize half of them from all of your 2 a.m. e-mails to all of us and to me. So it wouldn't be that interesting or revealing.
GUTFELD: Yes. There would be no secrets, because I don't keep any. I talk about everything that's going on in my body, Juan.
GUILFOYLE: And you do it on this reply chain to everybody and all the producers.
GUTFELD: Yes, yes. I let everybody know about my intestinal conflicts.
GUTFELD: Yes. I have a conflict of interest right now.
GUILFOYLE: Remember from our Christmas party, and you blamed the snacks?
GUTFELD: I blamed the snacks. I blamed the snacks.
GUILFOYLE: On his situation.
GUTFELD: Yes. Juan.
WILLIAMS: You know, I don't know how to answer this question, because there's so many people. You know, the reporter in me loves to snoop, you know.
WILLIAMS: So I would love it. But I mean, like, this week I was reading about Sumner Redstone and suits from a bunch of women. I'm thinking, you know, here's a zillionaire. What kind of e-mails are these women sending him? What's he respond to them? I mean, that would be just like...
GUTFELD: It's probably in all caps. He's 90.
BOLLING: Well, it was going to be my son. Then I realized I really don't want to know what he's up to. That would be a tough one.
GUILFOYLE: You already see on Instagram.
BOLLING: So I think it would probably be Morning Joe and Mika.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God. You're so obsessed with them.
GUTFELD: That is hilarious. That's hilarious. "What did you mean by that?" "What do you mean what did I mean by that?" "You know what I mean." "I -- no, I wasn't talking about you." "Why did you say that before the break?"
BOLLING: And that's just Mika.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh.
PERINO: I don't think I could do it.
GUILFOYLE: Making friends everywhere.
PERINO: I don't snoop at all.
GUTFELD: It does -- it would feel weird. It's a weird feeling.
PERINO: Did you ever -- did anybody here have a party line phone when they were little?
BOLLING: No. I know what it is.
PERINO: In Wyoming there was a party line phone. And so it connected -- like, I think there were probably 10 houses. And everybody had a different ring. And it was like a real big no-no...
PERINO: ... to pick up the phone and listen to somebody else's conversation. I was, like, taught that at an early age.
PERINO: So I don't know. It makes me uncomfortable to look at other people's stuff.
GUTFELD: The only time I ever read other people's e-mails is when they're -- they accidentally sent an e-mail to me that was meant for somebody else about me.
PERINO: That happens with -- that happens with Danas a lot.
GUTFELD: Yes, but no. Like, when somebody is -- has got Greg on his mind and is talking to Juan, but sends it to me.
GUTFELD: So "Look at him wearing his sunglasses indoors. Who does he think he is?"
PERINO: Wy (ph).
GUTFELD: Yes. Exactly.
GUILFOYLE: Wy (ph). Yes. You want to read Wy's (ph) e-mail.
GUTFELD: I would like to read mailer daemon's e-mails. His responses are so weird to me.
All right, from John H...
GUILFOYLE: Look at Juan's face.
WILLIAMS: Who? Tell me. Who's...
BOLLING: If you send an e-mail to an address that's not active, it comes back as mailer daemon. You've seen that.
WILLIAMS: Oh, OK.
PERINO: It's not "demon." It's "damon."
GUTFELD: "Damon"? I call it "demon." You say "tomato," I say "Satan." All right.
WILLIAMS: Didn't he say "demon"?
GUILFOYLE: Chicken Little over here is so innocent.
WILLIAMS: I didn't know.
GUTFELD: Anyway, from John H., I'll go start with you, Eric. "If President-elect Trump asked you to be an ambassador, which country would you want it to be in order to accept?" That's a good one, too.
BOLLING: I think it would honestly be Spain, because I love the culture.
PERINO: That's a good one.
BOLLING: I love the Latin culture. I speak not fluent but Spanish. And it's a beautiful country.
GUTFELD: Yes. There's some fun places there.
WILLIAMS: Spain? Spain is not Latin.
BOLLING: It's Spanish.
BOLLING: Sorry. Hispanic.
GUTFELD: "Ibisa"? Or "Ibiza"? Depending on where you're from.
WILLIAMS: There you could have -- There you could have a party.
GUTFELD: Very, very nice, man.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, you're wife, Adrienne said that to you, her favorite place, Bolling.
GUTFELD: What about you, Juan?
WILLIAMS: I don't know. I knew a guy who once was the ambassador to the European Union. He loved it.
BOLLING: Not anymore. That job is breaking up.
GUTFELD: That's cheating. That's cheating.
WILLIAMS: That's cheating?
WILLIAMS: Then what about can you go to the Caribbean?
GUTFELD: I think so.
WILLIAMS: That would be good.
GUTFELD: But you could go to the Caribbean anyway.
WILLIAMS: No, but then you'd be the ambassador. You can walk around like the dude. You know?
GUTFELD: Yes. What about you, K.G.? I know what you're going to say?
GUILFOYLE: What am I going to say?
GUTFELD: I'm not -- I'm going to wait for you.
BOLLING: The royals.
GUILFOYLE: What? Oh, U.K., no. Woody's got that. Johnson.
GUTFELD: Got you.
GUILFOYLE: No, really. So I would say Ireland.
GUTFELD: Very good.
BOLLING: You don't have to call him Johnson, you know.
GUILFOYLE: OK. Well, yes, I would say Ireland, since I lived there ever summer since I was 5.
BOLLING: That was great.
GUILFOYLE: And I went to Trinity College in Dublin, Ireland, and studied law there. So yes, I think it would be good. I'm half of a wee Irish.
GUTFELD: Yes. Yes, interesting.
GUILFOYLE: And I vacation in Puerto Rico. My other side. So that's -- you know.
GUTFELD: Yes. Got that covered.
What about you?
PERINO: I'd like Tanzania.
GUTFELD: Interesting choice.
WILLIAMS: A beautiful place.
PERINO: Beautiful place. It has promise.
PERINO: Democratic promise. And fascinating. You could, like, do some good work. So that one.
GUTFELD: That's good. I'd pick...
PERINO: Go on safari.
GUTFELD: Yes, that would be fun. I'd pick Australia. I have a thing for wallabies.
PERINO: It's illegal.
GUTFELD: Hey, they're soft.
GUILFOYLE: You're the same size.
GUTFELD: What? I was just saying they're a good cuddle.
GUILFOYLE: Same size.
GUTFELD: Can't talk. "One More Thing" up next.
BOLLING: OK. Time for "One More Thing." Dana kicks it off.
PERINO: Annual tradition, it came today, so I thought I would bring it. Your annual Jasper wine.
GUTFELD: Ooh, hell, yes.
PERINO: This is from one of the pictures FiveFanPhotoshop did of the "Let Me Tell You About Jasper" book. So it's a nice cabernet for you to have over the weekend. Or sell it on eBay.
WILLIAMS: I like your picture.
PERINO: That's the American gothic picture for America's dog.
GUTFELD: It goes great with dog.
BOLLING: See it?
GUILFOYLE: I love it. I like your outfit.
PERINO: it goes great with dog.
BOLLING: There you have it.
GUTFELD: There are countries that eat dogs.
PERINO: Merry Christmas.
BOLLING: All right, Juanito.
GUILFOYLE: Thank you. I keep this next to my Behind the Shed Red.
WILLIAMS: All right. Well, anyway...
PERINO: Do you love it?
WILLIAMS: ... happy Ugly Christmas Sweater Day. That's right. This started five years ago. Celebrated the third Friday of December. And a viewer sent these gifts for all of us. There's one for you, Kimberly.
PERINO: It's a gift day.
GUILFOYLE: Is mine, like, an extra small? Because...
WILLIAMS: There you go, there you go. This one's for you, Dana.
WILLIAMS: And this one, Gregory.
GUTFELD: Yes, thank you.
WILLIAMS: You've got to do it.
WILLIAMS: And a big, big one for...
PERINO: Oh, my gosh. I love mine.
WILLIAMS: Eric. And look, I'm going to show you what this looks like. It's pretty ridiculous, you know, if it works.
GUTFELD: This better be a unicorn. And it is.
WILLIAMS: Look at the lights. I think the lights flash.
WILLIAMS: You like that?
GUTFELD: Did I get a unicorn? Can I get a unicorn?
WILLIAMS: Yes, you got a unicorn.
PERINO: Oh, my God. Look...
GUTFELD: Move that wine bottle.
GUILFOYLE: Why does it say...
GUTFELD: Move that wine bottle.
GUILFOYLE: Why does this say it plays music?
GUTFELD: Show them my unicorn.
PERINO: That's a good one.
Greg's says, "I light up, too."
GUILFOYLE: Greg, you're blocking my shot again. You're the worst person in the world.
PERINO: It has little lights.
WILLIAMS: Oh, thank you.
GUILFOYLE: OK. Mine says -- what is this?
WILLIAMS: It's like a lamb. Bah humbug.
GUILFOYLE: OK, it's also a size large. You're not going to fit this.
PERINO: That's actually really good.
WILLIAMS: Look at this. A bull moose.
GUTFELD: I would -- said (ph) that it's homoerotic.
GUILFOYLE: By the way, notice how masculine and alpha Bolling's is and yours is...
GUTFELD: It looks like something out of a "Playgirl" from "Wild Kingdom."
GUILFOYLE: Yours is really cute. Yours looks like a pug.
PERINO: Mine is a little pug dog.
WILLIAMS: Anyway, I'm happy to have these.
GUILFOYLE: Is yours a large, too?
GUTFELD: All right, Juan.
WILLIAMS: And I hope all our viewers have theirs on, too.
BOLLING: Very quickly, tonight 8 p.m., make sure you check out "O'Reilly Factor." I'm hosting. I have a big show. We're going to go after -- the thank-you tour, I believe, is in Florida. And we're going to pick up the rest of the show from there.
And last night I told you, hit me up. On Twitter, I said did Hillary -- who lost the election for Hillary? Was it her or was it the Russians? And you came back with -- Ron Aragon said, "Hillary had it won until she opened her mouth." Joe McGuinness said, "The criminal Hillary." That's a little mean, Joe. And Tony, the Second Amendment lawyer, said, "For me, it was never about WikiLeaks. I lived through the Clinton years. I know what kind of snake she is." Wow.
BOLLING: A little rough there. A little rough there.
All right. K.G., you're up.
GUILFOYLE: OK, I have a lot of things going on here. First of all, I want do a big shout-out to all my boys, the team guys out there in Georgia that are watching right now. There you go.
GUILFOYLE: Merry Christmas. We can say that these days. And we met at the convention.
And also, it's time now for Kimberly's...
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GUILFOYLE: I'm getting so good at this. Right?
I wish we could get a sponsor. All right. Maybe it should be McDonald's, Dana.
GUILFOYLE: Because guess what, Juan? They're going to deliver -- this is so exciting. In select cities you're going to be able to get McDonald's. Right here, I've got some kind of large Coke situation, large fries and a Big Mac. So customers can order off the menu, have their food delivered to their door. Be a Uber eat. So Uber, as always, printing money these days. On the app or on the website. So it's pretty exciting. Orlando, Tampa, Miami starting in late January. Two hundred places. Nice.
GUTFELD: All right. For -- thank you. Tomorrow night, 10 p.m., we've got Bernie McGuirk and To Shillue on "The Greg Gutfeld Show." Watch it.
GUILFOYLE: Do you have to yell?
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GUTFELD: I hate these people!
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GUTFELD: When you're on an escalator, I don't care if you're in love. You don't hold hands. People are in a hurry. You're standing there, and I'm trying to get to the subway, and you're holding hands. Get out of my way! Get behind the person! You don't hold hands when you're on an escalator!
GUILFOYLE: God, you are so angry.
BOLLING: He definitely hates some people.
That's it for us. We're going to see you back here on Monday. "Special Report" coming up right now.
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