Gingrich: CNN started on the left and went to the left; David Bossie: Trump is showing a willingness to listen

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," December 7, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." Former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich -- he's be here in just a minute.

But first, the people of Washington, D.C., and political elites, well, they're not President-elect Donald Trump's friends and they never will be.  And that's tonight's opening monologue.

Now, Donald Trump, he's been meeting with the likes of Mitt Romney, Chicago Mayor Rahm "Rambo dead fish" Emanuel, people like Al Gore. Now, my advice to the president-elect tonight is be very careful. Now, while President-elect Trump -- he considers Romney for secretary of state, he should remember all of the vicious and nasty and horrible things that he said about him on the campaign trail.


MITT ROMNEY, R-FORMER MASS. GOVERNOR: If we Republicans choose Donald Trump as our nominee, the prospects for a safe and prosperous future are greatly diminished.

Now, Donald Trump tells us that he is very, very smart.


I'm afraid that when it comes to foreign policy, he is very, very not smart.

Dishonesty is Donald Trump's hallmark.

Think of Donald Trump's personal qualities, the bullying, the greed, the showing off, the misogyny, the absurd 3rd grade theatrics.

Here's what I know. Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud. His promises are as worthless as a degree from Trump University.


HANNITY: Pretty vicious. Do you really want him in your Cabinet?

Then there's "Rambo dead fish" Emanuel, the mayor of Chicago. He has deep political ties to President Obama, and of course, the Clintons. Now, he was at Trump Tower earlier today playing nice, but just recently, Emanuel has said he will oppose Donald Trump on sanctuary cities. Take a look.


MAYOR RAHM EMANUEL, D-CHICAGO: To be clear about what Chicago is, it always will be a sanctuary city.

Now, administrations may change, but our values and principles as it relates it inclusion does not.


HANNITY: Then, of course, you have global warming alarmist, former Vice President Al Gore. He was at Trump Tower earlier this week. However, we have to remember the campaign attacks that came from the former vice president and all the crazy stuff he said. Like watch this.


AL GORE, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, OCT. 11: Hillary Clinton will make solving the climate crisis a top national priority.

Her opponent, based on the ideas that he has presented, would take us toward a climate catastrophe.

GORE, SEPT. 27, 2007: We face a genuine planetary emergency. We cannot just talk about it. We have to act on it.

GORE, MARCH 21, 2007: The planet has a fever. If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor.  If the doctor says you need to intervene here, you don't say, "Well, I read a science fiction novel that tells me it's not a problem."

GORE, JULY 16, 1998: They are in favor of affirmative action if you can dunk the basketball or sink a 3-point shot! But they're not in favor of it if you merely have the potential to be a leader in your community and bring people together!  Don't tell me we've got a color-blind society!


HANNITY: Of course, Republicans are racists, his global warming fear mongering.

Now, there's also President Obama. Now, early this morning on the "Today" show, Donald Trump talked about his relationship with the current commander-in-chief. Listen to this.


PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP: I've now gotten to know President Obama. I really like him. We have, I think I can say at least for myself -- I can't speak for him, but we have a really good chemistry together. We talk. He loves the country.  He wants to do right by the country and for the country. And I will tell you, we obviously very much disagree on certain policies and certain things, but you know, I really like him as a person.


HANNITY: President Obama's been one of the worst presidents in American history. That's just a fact. Now, the president-elect -- I understand.  He's taking the high road here, and guess, probably, he should to bring the country together. But to me, it's pretty obvious that President Obama is putting on a front in front of the country.

Now, our own Ed Henry, he's reporting that the president is planning a farewell tour in mid-January, with major speeches in up to three cities.  The likely goal, to undermine Donald Trump before the inauguration, and of course, to try and alter the political narrative.

Now, as we've said before, there's no way that President Obama will follow in President George W. Bush's footsteps and out of respect for the office, not criticize the next commander-in-chief. President Obama is a divisive radical left-wing ideologue, always was, always will be. And once he's out of office, he'll be going after Donald Trump the same way he did on the campaign trail!

You might remember this.


PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA, NOV. 2: This is somebody who's spent 70 years on this earth showing no respect for working people.

This is somebodies who vilifies minorities, vilifies immigrants, vilifies people of Muslim faith.

If you disrespect women before you are elected president, you will disrespect women when you're in office.

If you accept the support of Klan sympathizers -- the Klan -- and hesitate when asked about that support, then you'll tolerate that support when you're in office.


HANNITY: And finally, there's the Republican leadership in Washington, D.C. Now, I'm glad to see -- they're late in the game, they're finally coming around and supporting Donald Trump. But I'm an old Reagan guy, and I think it's worth remembering his admonition, his famous line, "Trust but verify."

So my recommendation to the president-elect is to set the agenda and push for that legislation that he wants first. And then Republicans in Congress can do what they want later on. Now, Washington, it might seem like a nice place, but as Trump has said, it's a swamp. And as soon as things get even a little bit tough, these people, these new-found friends, the political class, they will turn on him on a dime.

So if the president-elect, if he want any real friends in Washington, well, I heard he just got a dog called Patton. If he wants two friends, get two dogs.

Joining us now with reaction, author of the best-selling book "Treason," former speaker of the House, Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich.

Anything you disagree with there?


HANNITY: You're laughing. I love when you laugh at me. Go ahead, take your shot.

GINGRICH: No, no, no, no.

HANNITY: Take it.

GINGRICH: No, no. It's not a shot. I mean, I think, first of all, you did a very good job of putting together a montage that shows that these guys were all deeply, deeply anti-Trump, which is I think a useful reminder.

I mean, I wish he had said, for example, to Rahm Emanuel, So what's your plan for saving lives in Chicago? I mean, over 4,000 people have been shot in Chicago. Over 700 have been killed. Emanuel recently pledged $1 million help illegals fight against deportation. Been nice if he'd taken that million dollars and sent it in South Side Chicago saving American lives. And I think there are a lot of things that the president-elect could talk to these guys about that might be sort of useful.

But I think part of this, you're right, this is a bring the country together, I'm president of the whole country. I think that's fine. And I think it's just -- as you were pointing out, it's really important to distinguish between courtesy and cooperation.

Every major thing President-elect Trump wants to achieve, these people are going to oppose, and he needs to understand that. And if he wants to get these things done, he's going to have to be prepared to fight many of the people that he's currently making nice with.

HANNITY: Well, I read from -- Congressman Flores was talking about Paul Ryan's agenda. Now, Paul Ryan has his agenda. Trump has his. And it kind of bothered me because what he suggested is, Well, let's do things we all agree on first, and then those controversial things like the wall and immigration and maybe vetting refugees and maybe some of the harder parts of Trump's agenda -- I got the impression, We'll work that out later, means -- that's Washington speak for, You get the tax increase, but you never get the spending cut. You get the amnesty, you never get the wall.

And I almost think they're trying to set Trump up to only go along with their agenda, not his.

GINGRICH: Well, of course they are. Of course they are. Remember when George W. Bush first came to town and discovered he had a great friend in Teddy Kennedy and they were going to write an education bill together, and they created a bigger, more monstrous Washington bureaucracy because that's what Teddy Kennedy wanted.

I think that Trump's got to understand these are smart people. They believe in big government. They believe in radical left values. They believe in controlling your life through bureaucrats. And if that's what he's willing to do, they'll love him.

But if he, in fact, remains the Donald Trump we see on the road, talking to people, these huge crowds that continue to turn out -- that Donald Trump is going to be taking these guys head on because he stands for a dramatically different America than they do.

And I think we just have to keep reminding ourselves, and he's got to remind people that that's the case, that this is a -- but what I've seen so far, I mean, things I read, the things I talk to the transition team about, they're moving in the direction of a very Trumpian world. They're not moving in the direction of a Chuck Schumer, Rahm Emanuel, Al Gore kind of world.

HANNITY: Mitt Romney?

GINGRICH: Well, Romney is somebody you and I both oppose. I've watched the president-elect. He has expanded the number of people he's looking at.  He has a very serious approach to finding the right secretary of state.

If he ends up picking Romney, which I hope he doesn't, but if he does, I'll support him because I think the president-elect is allowed to have the candidate that he thinks will help him best.

But I'll tell you, given the people he's interviewing, given the range of people he's brought in, I don't get a sense he's rushing to pick Mitt Romney. I get a sense he's looking for as alternative, and he has found three or four really first-rate people who I think would be dramatically better a secretary of state, and we'll see what he does.

HANNITY: All right-

GINGRICH: And I like -- by the way, I like the fact that he's being disciplined and calm and doing it in a very serious way.

HANNITY: All right. Now, do you have an official role with President- elect Trump?

Well, I'm a vice chairman of the transition, if that counts.

HANNITY: No, I meant for when he becomes president on January 20th. And you knew exactly what I meant when you answered that!

GINGRICH: No, I didn't.

HANNITY: Yes, you did! I've known you since 1990!

GINGRICH: Look, my goal is to be the chief strategist putting together what Trump means -- the principles of Trumpism and helping people from state legislature to governor to the House and Senate to the executive branch all move in the same general direction with the goal of literally creating a new stable Republican governing majority for the first time since 1932.

And I've talked to the president-elect and the vice president-elect. I've talked to the senior team on the transition. They all seem comfortable with that role for me. And I will intend to continue doing that. It's something I did in the Reagan years...

HANNITY: I think that's a perfect role for you because you...

GINGRICH: Yes, you know...

HANNITY: You could you transform every agency...

GINGRICH: ... I think I know how to do that.

HANNITY: ... in government, every branch of government in a profound way, which by the way, every single one of them needs.

But we'll have more with the former speaker, Newt Gingrich, right after this.

And later tonight, according to President-elect Trump, Mitt Romney is, in fact, still in the running for secretary of state but the list of potential candidates continues to grow. Deputy executive director of the Trump transition team, David Bossie, will check in and he'll weigh in on the process.

And also later tonight...


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There is a profound argument about whether his influence was for the better or for the worse. And that really is the challenge that faces him.


HANNITY: President-elect Trump -- he's been named Time magazine's Person of the Year, but not without the magazine taking a cheap shot at the future president. Ainsley Earhardt, Taya Kyle -- they'll join me with reaction in studio as "Hannity" continues tonight.




MICHAEL MOORE, FILMMAKER: The man is, first of all, a malignant narcissist, and he's only about himself, folks. And you're about to see that happen...


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I could say the same thing about Hillary Clinton.

VAN JONES, CNN: I hate to be the one to say this, it makes me feel very odd, but he's not an idiot. He's got to get re-elected by these guys.  Can't you give him a chance at least on the stuff you agree with him on?

MOORE: I can't even imagine he's thinking about reelection. I think -- I can't even imagine he's thinking about, I got to do this for four years?  Not fair!

The majority of Americans, say it again, wanted Hillary Clinton. The majority of Americans did not want Donald Trump. It is the responsibility of this minority of Democrats in Congress...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hey, wait, hold on.

MOORE: ... to block, obstruct (INAUDIBLE) and do whatever they can to prevent the onslaught that is going to happen with Donald Trump.

He's going to be inaugurated on January 20th, and January 21st, which is a Saturday, don't be surprised if the Republicans call a Saturday session of Congress. And they are going to pass law after law after law and have him sign it the next day. And it's going to be one piece of suffering against people after another. And it is the job of the Democrats now to stop the suffering that he's about to create for the American people.


HANNITY: No, actually, the suffering happened under Obama, with 13 million more Americans on food stamps, 8 million more in poverty, doubling the debt, the lowest labor participation since the '70s, lowest home ownership rate in 51 years.

Michael, wake up! Liberal Michael Moore trashing President-elect Donald Trump.

You know, I watch CNN, and there's the most -- Mr. Whitelash himself, Van Jones, interviewing Michael Moore. Is that any indication why CNN has very few viewers on any given night now?

GINGRICH: Well, I think it's fair to say that they started on the left and then went to the left...


GINGRICH: ... and that, you know, they're now so far out to the left that actually, they may make an intersection with Mars or Venus at some point in the next year or two. I mean, it's -- you know, you have to relax and accept -- you've heard me talk about, Nisim Telev's (ph) great essay on intellectual yet idiot. And I think that, you know, you're seeing a lot of people who are pseudo-intellectuals, who, you know, went to a good school and learned nothing, and then get on TV and prove that they've learned nothing.

And you would think that the left -- I saw Nancy Pelosi say, Oh, we really don't have to change. Well, let me see. You know, you lost thousands of state legislators. You've lost governors. You've lost the Senate. You've lost the House. You just lost the presidency. Do you think there might be a signal that your customers aren't happy?


GINGRICH: And she didn't think so. It didn't penetrate.

HANNITY: That shows how really in touch she is, and she deserves that position once again to continue losing.

So Harvard did a study and this professor -- his name is Thomas E. Patterson -- and he pointed out that during Trump's best weeks, the media coverage was 2 to 1 negative over positive. But then he also pointed out, on his worst weeks, the ratio was 10 to one negative coverage over positive.

And then he pointed out that overall in the general election, 77 percent of Donald Trump's coverage was negative. I said in 2008, journalism is dead.  Is that enough evidence to prove I was right?

GINGRICH: Look, and if you add to that the degree to which they overwhelmingly -- I think 96 percent of those donating in the news business donated to Hillary Clinton, you just go down the list. I've thought some about trying to start using the term "propaganda media" to replace "news media" because I think they have so totally devalued their brand that we're a lot better off to not be surprised. They're not news anymore. They're propagandists.

They -- I just got a thing which I still find hard to believe, that one of the newspapers actually published an old picture of demonstrations in Baltimore claiming it was occurring in Charleston, South Carolina. And the picture was Baltimore, wasn't even Charleston. But they had -- they'd already decided they wanted to run this story, so they just picked the picture that fit the story, even though it was totally falsehood.

HANNITY: So when they talk about fake news, they're really talking about themselves.

GINGRICH: I know. That's what -- I have to tell you because you've been on this and you've been right. The idea of The New York Times being worried about fake news is really weird.


GINGRICH: I mean, this is -- you know, The New York Times is fake news.  And it doesn't change because all those copy editors are there who hat have been there for 20 years. They are as far to the left as they can get without teaching at Harvard. And it's unbelievable how far to the left The New York Times has gone.

HANNITY: Unbelievable. Mr. Speaker, you've been great. The first hundred days are going to be amazing. And I know you're going to be on with us regularly. We look forward to having you as often as possible.

GINGRICH: It's going to be very exciting.

HANNITY: And coming up next tonight right here on "Hannity"...


TRUMP: I've spoken to him a lot. We've come a long way together. We had some tremendous difficulty together. And now I think we've come a long way. But the answer is, yes, he does.


HANNITY: President-elect Trump says Mitt Romney is still being considered for secretary of state as he works to fill key administration roles. David Bossie from the Trump transition team is here with more. That's coming up next.

And later, Time magazine names Donald Trump Person of the Year, but they also take a cheap shot at the president-elect. Ainsley Earhardt and Taya Kyle -- they'll be here with reaction and more tonight on this busy news night here on "Hannity."


HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." So the Trump transition team continues to work to fill key administration posts. And this morning on the "Today" show, the president-elect, Donald Trump, said that Mitt Romney is still in the running to be the next secretary of state. Take a look.


MATT LAUER, CO-HOST: Let me go back to Mitt Romney. Is he still under consideration?

TRUMP: Yes, he is.

LAUER: Does he have a chance to become secretary of state?

TRUMP: Yes, he does. I mean, I've spoken to him a lot. We've come a long way together. We had some tremendous difficulty together. And now I think we've come a long way. But the answer is, yes, he does.

LAUER: So this isn't about some case of stringing him along as a -- a revenge being a dish best served cold for the comments he made during the campaign?

TRUMP: No, it's not about revenge. It's about what's good for the country.


HANNITY: All right, joining is now with reaction, the deputy executive director of Trump transition team, Dave Bossie. Dave, good to see you again. How are you doing?


HANNITY: You don't have a position yet. When are you getting your position?


BOSSIE: I don't know. You'll have to talk to the president-elect about that.

HANNITY: Well, obviously, you played a big part in the campaign, so I would suspect you probably are going to Washington with him. And you and Bannon work well together. We've all been friends for years.

BOSSIE: Thank you.

HANNITY: All right, maybe -- let me give the president-elect more credit and for being more gracious than I would be, more magnanimous than I would be.

I'm beginning to worry, though, because to me, a guy like Governor Romney, who called him a liar, a racist, a misogynist, unfit for office, a fraud and a huckster is not the type of guy that I think's going to be loyal when things hit the fan. And you and I have been around far too long to know that those moments are coming that people that were loyal to him during the campaign will be the people that will be best and loyal during tough times.  And tough times are coming.

BOSSIE: Well, look, we're going to have some tough times in the White House. President-elect Trump then -- when he becomes president, Trump will obviously be challenged when it comes to our economy, and you know, across the world as he engages all of the problems that we have today.

Look, I believe that what President-elect Trump has done is an incredibly deliberative process. He has really cast a wide net. He has talked to a lot of different people about the secretary of state's job, and you know, if he feels that Mitt Romney is the right man at the right time for this job, then I don't know that I...

HANNITY: What experience does he have to be secretary of state?

BOSSIE: Well, you know what?

HANNITY: Like Rudy Giuliani has traveled the world. Newt Gingrich has traveled the world.

BOSSIE: Mitt Romney is not somebody who's lived under a rock. He is somebody who's well experienced with negotiations, well versed, and has traveled himself around the world. I'm not that worried about that. I think that the president-elect will make the right decision for him.

HANNITY: He ran. He got elected. I didn't run. I didn't get elected.  It's his call. It's not my call. I understand.

But I guess the single biggest percentage of calls to my radio show -- 550 stations, we have a lot of people listening -- is about, Well, why is he meeting with Al Gore? Why does he say he's friends with Obama? Why is he meeting with Mitt Romney? Why is he meeting with some of the other people that he's been meeting with?

BOSSIE: Well, look...

HANNITY: Rahm Emanuel, dead fish? He does -- let me ask this question.  He does know they're not his friends? He understands that?

BOSSIE: Oh, I -- look, you know, the president-elect is not...

HANNITY: He's smart.

BOSSIE: He is incredibly smart. He understands that -- what these folks are about. But he also is somebody who's trying to show America that he wants to be president of all of the people, something that he ran on.

HANNITY: OK, I can accept that. That's smart.

BOSSIE: And I think that having these meetings is incredibly smart for the optics of showing the American people he will take guidance and advice -- whether or not he takes the advice and adheres to the advice, he will at least listen from a lot of wide-ranging voices, and I think that those are some of them.

HANNITY: To me, it's all about the agenda. There's no point in winning an election if you're not going to advance the agenda. And the agenda to me is simple. Originalists for the Supreme Court, extreme vetting, corporate tax 15 percent, repatriation 10 percent, eliminating "Obama care," health savings accounts.  Energy independence is a big part of job creation and I think the creation of wealth in this country, and education back to the states, building the wall.

If he does those things, he'll have a successful presidency. I heard him reiterate those points last night so I have confidence the agenda is the same. And I love the generals that he appointed. Will that agenda change or do you think some of these people he's talking to will have a negative influence on him?

BOSSIE: Look, you know, the president-elect has in his mind what his agenda is. He ran on it. He understands it. He believes in it.

HANNITY: And he has been repeating it.

BOSSIE: Without question, every day since the election and for a year before. So no one needs to tell him really what his agenda is. And I think that is what we have to count on, that the people that he is bringing together, his cabinet, the generals, and Steve Mnuchin at Treasury and Wilbur Ross at Commerce...


BOSSIE: ... and these other incredibly talented people the he's bringing together -- Ben Carson at HUD, which is interesting -- is going to really allow him to get that agenda forwarded for the American people.

HANNITY: I just -- to me, I think loyalty is the best trait you need in an environment like D.C., where if you want a friend, get Patton the dog.

BOSSIE: That's right!

HANNITY: And if you want two friend, get two dogs.

BOSSIE: It's a tough town.


BOSSIE: And it's -- and look, President Trump, when he is inaugurated...

HANNITY: They're not going to like him.


BOSSIE: ... is going to come for him every day.

HANNITY: Dave, good to see you.

BOSSIE: Thanks.

HANNITY: All right, up next, now before we break, by the way, today is the 75th anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor. We want to honor and remember the brave Americans who fought and died that day for our freedom, and also thank those men and women that continue to serve in the military and our country. And my father signed up with many of his friends, spent four years serving his country in the Pacific and I was always very proud of my dad.

Coming up, "Time" magazine named Donald Trump the person of the year, but they also claimed he will be the president of the divided states of America. Ainsley Earhardt, Taya Kyle, they will be here with reaction.  Also tonight, Sheriff David Clarke, Judge Jeanine Pirro, and Lieutenant Colonel Allen West will join us to discuss sanctuary cities and more tonight on "Hannity."


HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." So earlier today "Time" magazine announced that it had its selection for the person of the year. By the way, it's the 90th time they've done this. President-elect Donald Trump is the selection. But in doing so the magazine did take a cheap shot, emphasizing that Trump played a critical role in dividing the country, calling it the "divided states of America." Watch this.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's a profound argument about whether his influence is for the better or for the worse. And that really is the challenge that faces him. The country came through this election season more divided, conspicuously, publicly than at any time throughout election cycle that most of us can remember.


HANNITY: So earlier today president-elect Donald Trump responded to those claims, and take a look at this.


PRESIDENT-ELECT DONALD TRUMP: When you say divided states of America, I didn't divide them. They are divided now. There is a lot of division.  And we are going to put it back together and we're going to have a country that's very well healed. I think putting "divided" is snarky. But again, it is divided. I'm not president yet. So I didn't do anything to divide.


HANNITY: Here now with reaction, the author of the number one New York Times bestselling book, it's a children's book. It's "Take Heart My Child, A Mother's Dream," "Fox & Friends" cohost Ainsley Earhardt, and Fox News contributor, by the way, first time since you've been a contributor, Taya Kyle is with us. Honor to have you both. Number one "New York Times" bestseller.


HANNITY: You both are heroes. Congratulations to both of you.

EARHARDT: Thank you.

HANNITY: Why can't they just be honorable and say, OK, he is the guy of the year.


HANNITY: They always say for good or bad. He's not Adolf Hitler. It is not the divided states of America. It is the United States. We have a few differences, but it's always been that way.

TAYA KYLE, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: We've always had differences. That's part of being free and having different opinions. Usually we're one group with differing opinions. And we are still the same one group. Nobody has seceded.

HANNITY: California is on the verge.

KYLE: They are talking about it, right. Texas has talked about it, too.  But if they do it, we will see. That's a whole other thing. It is one thing to throw a tantrum and say something extreme, which brings me to my other point, which is people have a voice now. With the Internet and social media, everybody can be extreme. We have 315 million plus people, and everybody gets that voice.

I think when I'm at Wal-Mart, when I'm in airports, when I'm in public all across this country with everyday people, we are not divided. We're very nice to each either. We're good, neighborly people. We look out for each other in line. We help each other out with our bags on the airplane.

HANNITY: I'm doing that all the time. I'm helping everybody out in line.

KYLE: You're not in public.


KYLE: So I'm just saying like everyday people, like me, we're fine. We're not divided.

EARHARDT: This is mainstream media. They are upset they didn't win. They like to have control. They don't like Donald Trump tweeting because they want to control the message. So of course they put him on the cover and put the "divided states of America." It is obvious he is going to be the most interesting man or person, like it or not. So he had to be on the cover. Everyone would have been blasting them if they hadn't put him on the cover. But they had to take a shot at him.

He said it was rude or he said it was snarky on the "Today" show. I was asking some people who voted for him what they thought and they said they are not surprised by it but this is a slap in the face. They said that President Obama is the one that has divided the country. That ISIS wasn't even part of our country, that hits home for you, before President Obama took office. That jobs, companies were moving to Mexico. He is not even president yet and he is already creating jobs or keeping Carrier in the country.

HANNITY: You grew up in South Carolina. You worked there in television.  You worked in Texas on television. When you were on my radio show and we were talking about your book, you talked about this other country.

EARHARDT: People in the middle -- in what we call the flyover states, people in middle America, in the south, we're just -- you're from Texas -- we're just trying to put food on our table. We are trying to make our lives a little better for our children than what we had. And we're doing it the right way. We're working really hard.

There are a lot of people I know -- by the grace of God we all have great jobs. We are having a lot of fun doing it. But there are a lot of my friends hate their job. They hate going to work every day. They're doing it to pay their bills. And that's the -- Donald Trump is giving them a voice. Is it is not an elite group in Washington. It is not big city New York or big state California.

HANNITY: D.C., L.A., New York, San Francisco. But look at the rest of the map. It's mostly red.


HANNITY: We've gone through this now with two election cycles. In 08 it was Barack Obama saying these bitter Americans clinging to God, guns, bibles, religion.

EARHARDT: What's wrong with that?

HANNITY: That's me. That's who I am. Or irredeemable deplorables that Hillary Clinton used, it shows such a deep contempt. And these same media people, they are all part of that establishment and that crowd, and they are the ones that were surprised. I was not surprised by the outcome. I knew it was hard path but a doable path. They thought there was no chance that Donald Trump could win.

KYLE: Right. Here is a perfect example. I read an article that said something about what Obama wanted to do after presidency. He was saying the Democratic Party needed to get out and talk to the people and tell them about their programs and they them why it works and why they should vote the way they vote, right. So in my mind what I'm hearing him say is he needs to get out and indoctrinate the people into going with a theory that they've developed that's best for the country, versus asking people, what do you want? That's what freedom is. That's what this democracy is. It's getting out and saying, people, what do you want? Let me go to government and represent you. And to me that's a fundamental difference, and that's where it is getting lost. They want it create the narrative.

HANNITY: Go back to your friend and maybe people that you know in your life that don't like their jobs. I went through 20 years of blue collar work in my life. It's not that I didn't like it. I like this a lot better. But it is hard. And the average American has been struggling for eight years, and I can't cite a single economic statistic that shows Obama has been successful.

EARHARDT: I have friends that want to have big family and they can't because they can't afford having more than one or two children. I have friends that are putting $7 in the tank when they go to the gas tank, $7.53 because that is all they have in their wallet. They're still bouncing checks. They're living paycheck to paycheck. And these are people that are in their 40s. It's not like we're in our 20s anymore when we all did that kind of thing to survive.

HANNITY: That was long time ago for me. You girls, you can still remember those years, great.

EARHARDT: I know, but he gives them a voice and he gives them hope that he's not going to increase taxes. He's going to lower taxes. He's going to improve race relations, people are hoping, and he's going to keep jobs here and keep our country safer.

HANNITY: That's why I call this election the forgotten man, forgotten woman election. Those are the people that won that for Donald Trump. Good to see you both. Congrats on your contributorship. Congrats on number one on your book.

EARHARDT: Thank you.

HANNITY: And coming up, after saying he would oppose Donald Trump on sanctuary cities, Chicago mayor Rahm "Rahmbo" "dead fish" Emanuel, he met with the president-elect earlier today at Trump Tower. We'll check in with Sheriff David Clarke, Judge Jeanine Pirro Lieutenant Colonel Allen West, all straight ahead to talk about "Rahmbo."


HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." So Chicago Mayor Rahm "Rahmbo" "dead fish" Emanuel, well, he met with the president-elect, Donald Trump, earlier today at Trump Tower after Trump's election. Emanuel and other mayors all declared they would defy the incoming Trump administration and remain sanctuary cities for illegal immigrants.

Here now with reaction, Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, the host of "Justice," Judge Jeanine Pirro, and the executive director of the National Center for Policy Analysis, Fox News contributor Lieutenant Colonel Allen West. Judge, you're a former prosecutor. Is that breaking the law?

JUDGE JEANINE PIRRO, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Former prosecutor and judge, and what I can tell you is this.

HANNITY: You were a real judge.

PIRRO: I was an elected county judge. Here is the problem. When you've got a detainer and the locals are releasing someone although the feds have a detainer there, the issue is whether or not the feds can force the locals to do their job. The answer is very simple, they can't.

HANNITY: Aren't they aiding and abetting in the breaking of law?

PIRRO: That's an argument you can make, but you're not going to win that argument. What you can argue --

HANNITY: So they can release people that are criminal aliens that have broken American law, and just release them, and they're not held accountable?

PIRRO: You know why? Because there is a sovereignty that they have. But this is what we can do to stop that. They have to give us the information.  They can say we're not going to give you information. We're sovereign.  We're not going to give you anything that tells you that they're illegal, we're not going to ask them if they're illegal. But Congress can force them and we can stop the money going to them, and they have to tell us.  That is the end of it.  

HANNITY: Sheriff Clarke, I know you met with Donald Trump. I don't know if you talked about a position. Anything you want to share with us I'd love to hear. But maybe Sheriff Clarke, put him in charge of ICE and I can see a lot of good things happening. I don't think you'd let this go uncontested.

SHERIFF DAVID CLARKE, MILWAUKEE COUNTY: No, I wouldn't. First of all, Donald Trump, president-elect Donald Trump, owes me nothing. I supported him because I thought he was best for the country.

But look, we're at a crossroads. Either we're going to be a sovereign nation and enforce our borders or we're not. The problem is getting worse.  We have to have zero tolerance for people illegally crossing the border, coming into the country, and setting up residence. The cities are not going to comply, and as the judge indicated, they really don't have to.  But under federal statute 8, United States code statute 1324, there are criminal sanctions for people who provide safe havens and harbor people that they know are in the country illegally. We don't enforce that law.  Congress will deal with immigration reform when they come back, but there are things on the statutes that we have to enforce.

HANNITY: Right now we have ability to go into the sanctuary city and remove them?

PIRRO: If we know about them.

HANNITY: If we know about them.

Allen West, Colonel, good to see you. You met with the president-elect.  How did that go?

LT. COL. ALLEN WEST, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: It went very well. I actually met with the vice president elect and his national security team of Lieutenant General Flynn and K.T. McFarland.

HANNITY: Anything going to come of that that you can share with me?

WEST: Well, Just proud to continue to serve this great nation as four generations of my family have done. So we'll see what comes of that.

HANNITY: What do you make the issue of sanctuary cities? How should it be handled?

WEST: Very simply. This is not being in defiance of the Trump administration. It's being in defiance of this constitutional republic and its rule of law. And as Sheriff Clarke stated, if we don't have sovereignty as a nation, regardless of what you see happening in the city, then we have a breakdown of the rule of law and this establishment of the republic. So I think Representative John Culberson of Texas has already created a means by which we can cease the funding to these cities because they cannot continue to act and defy us.

And when you talk about political optics this is not a winning argument for the Democrat Party whatsoever.

PIRRO: The amazing part of this, Sean, is that they say these laws are unjust federal immigration laws and that they're bigoted. Here is the bottom line. These are federal laws. They are meant to be followed. We have the ability to enforce those laws and it's about time we did.  President-elect Trump will do that. Obama did not. He protected them.  Rahm Emanuel has protected them. And Rahm Emanuel right now is running one of the most violent cities in the country.  

HANNITY: I would like to know if the president-elect said, hey, what are you going to do to stop innocent people from getting shot every day in your city?

PIRRO: And so what we've got to do, when we look at national security in this country, we have to try to understand who these immigrants are, who we're protecting, and are these refugees now part of the problem in this country?

HANNITY: Sheriff?

CLARKE: Sean, sanctuary cities are havens for criminal activities because people, criminals prey on people illegally in the country knowing that they cannot report them to the police for fear of being found to be in the country illegally themselves. So we have underreported and unreported crime, serious crime -- rapes, domestic violence, child abuse -- as a result of sanctuary cities.

HANNITY: Colonel West, I just can't understand. To me, and I think the average person hearing that cities can defy federal law this way and help those that don't respect our laws and sovereignty, even criminal aliens that are in their jails and get released and don't get sent back, it's mind numbing. They're willing to gamble with the lives and safety of the American people. I don't understand it.

WEST: Well, you're absolutely right. And it shows where there are priorities and their concerns are. Go and talk to Kate Steinle's family out of San Francisco and ask them how they feel about it. And I'm sure that that story is repeated all across the United States of America. And when you look at the Democrat party it is actually, as Representative Tim Ryan said, it has now become a party of coastal urban elites that they do not understand that the American people want to be safe and secure. And this is a serious policy issue, it's a serious rule of law issue. And if these mayors decide that they don't want to be part of this constitutional republic there are means by which they can be held accountable.

HANNITY: Good to see all of you. And all three of you I can see in the Trump administration. I'm just guessing. I have no insight. Nobody tells me anything. You're all three my friends and none of you tell me a thing.  I'm like, really? That is how deep our friendship is?

WEST: You probably know more than we do.

HANNITY: Coming up, we need your help, a very important "Question of the Day" straight ahead. Stay with us.  


HANNITY: Time for our "Question of the Day." Should president-elect Trump trust people like Obama, Al Gore, Rahm "Rahmbo" "dead fish" Emanuel, and Mitt Romney? Opening a monologue time. We want to hear from you. And all you have to do is go to our Hannity.com, my website, or just go to our Facebook account or @SeanHannity on Twitter, let us know what you think.

That's all the time we have left this evening. We hope you set your DVR so you never miss an episode. Thank you as always for being with us. We'll see you back here tomorrow night.

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