This is a rush transcript from "The Kelly File," November 9, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
MEGYN KELLY, HOST: Breaking tonight, just 18 hours after Donald Trump wins the White House and less than 12 hours after our leaders call for unity, groups of protesters take to streets in a half dozen cities to vent their anger and frustration at the election of Donald Trump.
Welcome to "The Kelly File," everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. At this hour we are seeing anti-Trump protest breaking out in a handful of major cities, including New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, and in Oakland, California. These protests come near hours after the President, the President-elect, and the woman who wanted to be president, all call for the exact opposite of what we're seeing. Imploring the country to come together, following a historical political victory. We will have more on that part of the story in just a moment.
But first we go to Rob Schmitt who is on the streets in New York City with the protesters. Rob, what are you seeing?
ROB SCHMITT, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Megyn, we are only about eight blocks away from you. But this is a massive protest. This all started at 6:00 tonight in Union Square. Thousands and thousands of people marched up through the rain. There you go. This is a perfect example of it. We gotcha, buddy. About thousands. Several thousand in the rain came up here. Very motivated to get up here. Now, we're outside Trump Tower. We are at 54th and 5th Avenue, not too far away from our headquarters.
And this is just been an explosion of anger at the election of Donald Trump. Something that you have probably been seeing on social media all day long. Something you've been seeing with people all around you. Especially in major cities. New York is no stranger to the protest. We have always known that. We can show you a couple shots from a helicopter from above. We show you the scope of these protests. This is thousands of people here on 5th Avenue. A very impressive showing of support for the other side. The side that didn't win in this election, frankly.
A lot of anger here. And when you really look at the people here, you can see exactly what they are talking about. And a lot of curse words as you heard right there. But when you look at what this is comprised of, the people that are here, that angry right now, if you remember that in the comments that were leaked from Hillary Clinton when she talked about the Bernie supporters saying that the disillusioned people, that she said were living in their parents' basement, they're upset.
This is a lot of that fabric. This is a lot of Bernie Sanders supporters. This is a lot of Black Lives Matter. This is a lot of, I mean, there is a hodgepodge of so many different groups here that are angry that want some answers about what has happened, about how this election occurred, about how Donald Trump is now the president of the United States and they seem absolutely confused by it. Even the Nurses Union had a showing here. So, you're seeing a number of groups all coming together. They're all shouting different things. There is, you know, a lot of screaming fascism and other things like that.
So, it is a major show of support like I said for the side that didn't win in this election and Donald Trump is enemy number one. I'm not sure if he is home at Trump Tower. But if he is, he has thousands of people right outside his doorstep that really don't like him. Megyn, we'll send it back to you.
KELLY: Rob, can you get in there and ask questions of some of these folks? I would like to know, whether A, they voted, and B, what they think of President Obama's call for unity, Hillary Clinton's call for unity, not to mention Donald Trump.
SCHMITT: Yes. We certainly can I can bring some at the end. We are at risk after curse word or two. But --
KELLY: Well we're heard that before.
SCHMITT: Anybody? Anybody? Everybody shy?
KELLY: Get in there, Rob, come on!
SCHMITT: I really am. Anybody? Can I just ask you if you voted?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
SCHMITT: Who did you vote for?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not your guy.
KELLY: Not your guy.
SCHMITT: Not our guy. Megyn, apparently we have a guy. I didn't know we had guy.
SCHMITT: But he didn't vote for our guy.
KELLY: Welcome to New York City.
SCHMITT: Everyone here is very camera shy. So, we'll send it back to you.
KELLY: It's amazing. Rob, thank you.
You what is amazing is, these people come out to, you know, Times Square and Fifth Avenue and they want to make their voices heard. Except on Fox News. Which has the biggest viewership in all of cable. And then they claim up. They don't want to be heard at all. That's helpful to your position. Ironically this whole scene is playing out after we saw a remarkable call for unity today. From President Obama, from President-elect Trump and from Hillary Clinton. Watch this.
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HILLARY CLINTON, D-FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Last night I congratulated Donald Trump and offered to work with him on behalf of our country. I hope that he will be a successful president for all Americans.
DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESIDENT-ELECT: Hillary worked a very long and very hard over a long period of time. And we owe her a major debt of gratitude for her service to our country. I mean that very sincerely.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: I want to make sure that hand off is well-executed because ultimately, we are all on same team.
CLINTON: Donald Trump is going to be our president. We owe him an open mind and the chance to lead.
TRUMP: It is time for America to bind the open wounds of division. I pledge to every citizen of our land that I will be president for all- Americans. And this is so important to me.
OBAMA: We all want what's best for this country. That's what I heard in Mr. Trump's remarks last night. That's what I heard when I spoke to him. Directly. And I was heartened by that.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KELLY: In moments, we will be joined by former Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee but we begin tonight with Bill Bennett who served as secretary of education under President Reagan and is the chairman of conservative leaders for education.
Bill, good to see you. So, now as we watched these protest in the streets of seven major cities tonight, and it doesn't seem like the Democrats, I'm assuming they're Democrats, are really listening to their sitting president's call for unity, to Hillary Clinton's call for unity, and you tell me how they get past that and accept the result that the American people have reached fair and square.
BILL BENNETT, FORMER EDUCATION SECRETARY: Well, there's no really no time-outs, you know, no stopping the action at a busy country. If people thought we would have a 24-hour or 48-hour break, we don't. You know, they are exercising their free speech rights. But what exactly are they protesting? Constitutional republic's way of engaging in democracy?
KELLY: I mean, the chant seem to amount to "F Donald Trump." So, when asked to explain further the one gentleman we spoke with declined based on the fact that it was Fox News Channel. Go ahead, Bill.
BENNETT: Yes, Fox News guy. Yes. So, it's a tantrum. It's our guy lost or our gal lost so we will going to protest. But you know, the way democracy works, one side loses, one side wins. Now, you know, it is a bit of a charade to talk about, let's have peace and unity. It's appreciated. I appreciate what Hillary Clinton said, what the President said and what the president-elect said. But we know as soon as you get into issues, as soon as you get into serious discussion if Donald Trump follows his agenda and let's say starts with getting rid of ObamaCare, there will be serious disagreement. And that's part of democracy too.
KELLY: And should he do that? You know, some are already saying, oh, he is going to moderate. You know, who knows if he's going live up to these campaign promises. What do you think?
BENNETT: Yes. Well, sure he should. I mean, that's a promise. That's what people took him for his word and took him seriously and supported him. Yes. That's what he ran on. Look, part of this is, will he reach out? Will he reach out to the other side? Which means will he compromise his views which in the end means, will he give up his views? But Donald Trump is not one too easily to hedge on these things. So of course he will. And of course there will be opposition to it. Can it be civil? Sure. Should it be civil? Yes. Will it be? Who knows. But he was elected to do certain things and he should by all means proceed do that. And what an extraordinary opportunity, Megyn with the House and the Senate. Can I just say one other thing?
BENNETT: I've been watching Fox all day, as loyal as I am to you guys. And everybody is apologizing for being wrong. All of the pollsters and everybody. I'm not apologizing. I wasn't wrong. And I'm not going to toot my horn but there were some of us who weren't all wrong. I heard that a lot today. Some of us actually thought Trump would win and we thought he had good reason to win.
KELLY: Uh-hm. And on top of that, Bill, I mean, you're of the mind that it's good to reach out. It's good to shoot for unity but that the other -- it is -- the Trump detractors who need to go to him to try to reach that unity. Explain that. Because you know, many people have said that he as the man in power needs to sort of roll out the carpet and say, you are welcome and you will be well received.
BENNETT: There's a difference between engaging with goodwill on issues with which you disagree and engaging to such a degree that you neuter yourself and you neuter your own views. He should do the former but not the latter. He can step forward and say, I was open about the issues. I think we should get rid of all of these executive orders and I plan to do that with an executive order the first day and he can do that in a civil way. That doesn't mean it will be greeted with hallelujahs.
But you know, there's a difference again between operating with goodwill and in disagreement and acting in a disagreeable way. I think he will not be disagreeable if he can help it. But it is going to be hard for him not to help it because he is going to get attacked big time. I watched CNN for five minutes today. Only five minutes, Megyn, I promise. Then they said, well, Donald Trump promised unity today and to reach out. But he wasn't always so unified during the campaign. Well, you know, and then they played all these quotes.
KELLY: Yes. It is like Trump says, this is a nasty business, politics. Which he is new to but played very well. Bill, I got go. Great to see you.
BENNETT: Big boisterous country. We will going to survive it. Thank you. Nice job by the way. Get any sleep yet?
KELLY: Thank you. Not yet. But it's looking good for tonight.
BENNETT: All right. Try MyPillow.com.
KELLY: I've got like eight of them. Thanks to the MyPillow people.
All right. Also with us tonight, Mo Elleithee, he served as traveling press secretary in Hillary Clinton's 2008 campaign, he is the founding executive director of Georgetown University's Institute of Politics and Public Service. Mo, good to see you.
MO ELLEITHEE, GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY'S INSTITUTE OF POLITICS AND PUBLIC SERVICE: Hi, Megyn.
KELLY: So, when you see folks taking to the street tonight, I mean, especially in light of what we heard today which is in essence that she lost because the Democrats didn't show up. Trump got his vote out. And she didn't. Her ground game. You know, you have talked about a lot. They did not show up for her. And yet, now they are out there.
ELLEITHEE: Yes, look, I am, you know, I'm the first to admit, listening to what Bill just said, I'm the first to admit, I always thought Donald Trump could win. I did not think he would win. I am one of those people who is sort of eating crow today. And I totally agree with Hillary Clinton and President Obama. That it is time for us to come together and we do need to get the president-elect the benefit of the doubt. And that we should root for him. We should want our president to be successful. And as part of the loyal opposition that doesn't mean we don't hold him accountable. And try to nudge him our way. But we want success. Having said that, that's our end of the bargain.
He's got to do his part as well. Remember, he lost the popular vote. A majority of the people who cast votes did not vote for him. That doesn't mean he is illegitimate. He is absolutely legitimate be the president-elect. He won fair and square. But it shows just how divided this nation is. And one of the reasons why it is so divided, one of the reasons, is his rhetoric. During the campaign. And the things he said that really upset, caused pain and caused fear in millions and millions of Americans. That's on him now. To reach out to those people.
KELLY: How? How does he get past that? I mean, how, there are many groups who are scared today. They're scared today.
KELLY: But how does a President-elect Trump get them past that?
ELLEITHEE: Yes. I think in part with words and in part with actions. And he needs to move swiftly and somewhat delicately but needs to go out there and speak to these groups. And demonstrate through both words and actions that what he said last night and what I thought was a really good and strong speech. Much more gracious than a lot of us gave him credit for being. Or for being able to be. He needs to prove the point he made in that speech that he does want to be a president for all-Americans.
Through his words and through his actions. So I think both sides of the equation here have some work to do, we are completely polarized and divided. There are some issues I am hopeful for that the President and both parties in Congress can work on, infrastructural form, which used to be a bipartisan issue.
KELLY: He mentioned that last night.
ELLEITHEE: He mentioned that last night. That would be a great first issue to start on them. All sides can come together on. But that fear that we're seeing in the streets tonight, you know, I wish we weren't seeing that tonight but he has to recognize his part in that equation and move out.
KELLY: But before I let you go, Mo.
KELLY: As somebody tied in the Democratic circles, what feedback are you getting? I mean, what's the level of emotion and what are the emotions?
ELLEITHEE: Yes. I don't think I have ever seen the kind of emotion that I'm seeing after this election. There is a lot of sadness and there is a lot of fear. There are a lot of people in the democratic family who are truly worried about the future right now. Because of some of the divisiveness that came out of this campaign. And you know, the number of tears that I witnessed today, it is just not unlike anything I've ever seen. We usually get through these elections. I've been through some tough elections. I've seen some pretty divided electorates but this feels a little bit more pronounced than I'm used to seeing. And so, like I said, we all have our work cut out for us to come together.
KELLY: One thing you can say about Donald Trump is he engenders very strong feelings in just about everyone. Right?
ELLEITHEE: That is true.
KELLY: And he watched his supporters. And now to see his detractors take to the streets of several major cities across America by the thousands. Protesting, the will of the people, essentially. And you point out she won the popular vote but of course that's not the way it works in our republic.
ELLEITHEE: That's right. That's right.
KELLY: That does not win you the presidency which these people understand.
ELLEITHEE: That's right.
KELLY: And it is quintessentially American to protest as long as they keep it nonviolent and respectful.
ELLEITHEE: That's right.
KELLY: And so far they have.
ELLEITHEE: And civil.
KELLY: Mo, good to see you.
ELLEITHEE: Thanks. You too.
KELLY: We will try to get in touch with some of these people. You can see there's our correspondent Rob Schmitt in the crowd now. And hear what it is -- what is the goal? I mean, they just want to express their anger or their feelings or they want a different result. What is the goal? We will try to figure that out as we watch these marches on the streets of New York, Chicago, Philly and elsewhere tonight.
We also saw college student burning flags on a couple of campuses earlier today. Professor Jonathan Turley joins with us tonight with some words of wisdom for these kids. Many of whom could not attend class today because they were so upset.
Also tonight, Governor Mike Huckabee and Dana Perino with the scoop on the first hundred days for America's new president. What must Trump do? That is next?
KELLY: Breaking tonight, we are continuing to watch protest marches in a half dozen U.S. cities tonight. Folks angry about the election results. We are getting somebody mic up. And she is going to speak to us, a couple of people in a minute.
Back in Washington, President-elect Donald Trump and the Republicans moving forward with their plans for the country. House Speaker Paul Ryan saying his party is emboldened by Mr. Trump's historic victory. Watch.
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REP. PAUL RYAN, R-WIS., SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: I think what Donald Trump just pulled off is an enormous political feat. It's an enormous feat and that he heard those voices that were out there that other people weren't hearing and he just earned a mandate. And we now just have the unified Republican government.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KELLY: In moments, Governor Mike Huckabee, Dana Perino both here on what to expect from a Trump administration.
But we begin with chief national correspondent Ed Henry. Ed?
ED HENRY, FOX NEWS CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Megyn, amazing how winning can bring people together. Paul Ryan calling it a mandate there, after offering no formal endorsement of the Trump campaign. Now the President-Elect is moving quickly to try and convert others perhaps in the case of Nancy Pelosi, it might just be trying to minimize criticism. Trump calling the Democratic leader today and focusing on something they largely agree on that infrastructure Bill to create jobs that you just mentioned. He also went back to working on Mexican President Pena Nieto to begin trying to follow through on another key campaign promise of building that wall.
The Mexican government though still insisting it will not pay for it. Though the two leaders say they had a cordial talk and agreed to their second meeting soon. And despite a lot of initial Republican skepticism of Trump, the GOP now has a trifecta. The White House and both Chambers of Congress making following through on another key Trump promise about healthcare likely. Watch this.
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SEN. MITCH MCCONNELL, R-KY.: It's a pretty high item on our agenda as you know. And I would be shocked if we didn't move forward to keep our commitment to the American people.
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HENRY: Senator McConnell talking about repealing ObamaCare. A lot harder for Trump though to come up with an alternative to actually fix the problems caused by ObamaCare and problems that are happening before ObamaCare. And if he follows through on undoing the Iran nuclear deal, that could be even more complex with big national security implications which is why Democrats like Tom Daschle, the former Senate leader, told me Trump needs to pull back on some of these more unilateral tendencies that we saw during the campaign if he's going to effectively govern. Watch.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TOM DASCHLE, D-FORMER SOUTH DAKOTA SENATOR: Two words that come immediately to mind are outreach and inclusion. There's got to be a lot of outreach and it has got to come both ways.
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HENRY: Even though he is a Democrat, Tom Daschle told me he thinks that after such a nasty campaign, expectations are now so low that he actually thinks Trump has an opportunity here to get some things done and that just with a little bit of effort he can get a lot of credit -- Megyn.
KELLY: Ed, good to see you. Joining me now, Governor Mike Huckabee, former Republican presidential candidate and Dana Perino who is a former Bush White House press secretary and co-host of "THE FIVE." Great to see you both.
DANA PERINO, FOX NEWS CO-HOST, "THE FIVE": Thank you.
KELLY: So, Dana, let me start with you, as somebody actually helped do this. First 100 days, what does Trump needs to worry about? President- Elect Trump.
PERINO: Well, even before those 100 days, what he needs to worry about right now and what I assume they have been thinking about since July, since they started the transition team that Chris Christie is running, is that you have to fill a lot of positions in the government.
KELLY: Before inauguration?
PERINO: Yes. There are certain national security positions in particular that should never be vacant. And it takes about eight weeks, believe it or not, to do a background check, a thorough background check on somebody in order to give them top secret clearance. So, if you work backwards, you know, 70 days goes by very quickly.
PERINO: And you need to -- there is going to be some great people out there that want it serve. But they're going to have to be vetted, that is a really important thing. Another thing to keep in mind is that there's the cabinet positions. One of the things Harry Reid did is that he paved the way for a cabinet secretaries. Now just need majority. So now the Republicans because they did so well in the Senate races yesterday, have 51 --
PERINO: -- they will be able to --
KELLY: As opposed to 60.
PERINO: Right. Right.
PERINO: So, they can be able to put forward those. And then I think that one of the first things that Donald Trump should do, or will do, is he will announce Supreme Court nominee quickly. I think that's something they probably have been prepared to do and that's now just the final decision.
KELLY: He submitted his list already of those in --
PERINO: And he has to meet those --
KELLY: Governor Huckabee, first of all, congratulations to you as a Donald Trump supporter and somebody who like Bill Bennett did predict the Trump victory on this show despite with the polls we're showing. You must feel very gratified. And what would you like to see Donald Trump do as our president-elect in these next 70 days as he gears up to take office?
MIKE HUCKABEE, FORMER REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, he needs to put together the best possible team he can. Because he's got to hit the ground running. He basically has two years to do a lot of big and bold things. That's because he will have the House, the Senate, and the White House. Maybe he has it after those two years. But we don't know. But for two years he owns the town. And he's got to make good use of that. I think he has to remind the Democrats, the words of Barack Obama when Barack Obama said, look, elections have consequences. We won.
HUCKABEE: And he proceeded to do what he wanted to do. And that's how we ended up with ObamaCare. I would like to see Donald Trump include Democrats and make as many things bipartisan. But you know what? Our country is in too big a mess to sit around and play patty cake. We have got to get some things fixed.
KELLY: And when Barack Obama was trying to push through ObamaCare and the Republicans wanted certain ideas considered, you know, Barack Obama was very much like, I won and you know turn about --
HUCKABEE: He basically told them -- well, I mean, he pretty much told him, you put it where the sun don't shine. And that's not a great way to -- influence people but by golly it got the job done. I would love to see Donald Trump at least attempt to bring them in. But if they are unwilling, go ahead and pass the business tax cut to 15 percent. Revoke the Iranian deal. Get rid of ObamaCare. Start putting something in place.
There are plenty of things to be done that would actually work. The Republicans were offering those ideas eight years ago. So, I think he has got to move quickly. I do think the infrastructure is something that has bipartisan support but he's got to be clear that he's not going to let that just sit there and sort of drip into win while they nitpick it.
KELLY: Dana, last thoughts on what you think a President Trump cabinet will look like and whether you think it's going to be a cast of familiar characters that we have seen on the campaign trail as surrogates.
PERINO: Yes. Certainly, I think that some of those people that have been supporting him, he will want to have, take with him to the White House.
KELLY: Maybe Governor Huckabee.
PERINO: Perhaps so. That would be a good choice.
KELLY: Oh, you have the support of James. Congratulations.
PERINO: I also think that there are, this will be a tricky thing. There's lots of legislators that could be good that have governing experience or you might look to the governors to pull them in but then how do you make sure that they stay Republican for you to support you and the things that you want to do.
KELLY: So, you're saying pull Democrats in?
KELLY: What do you mean stay Republican?
PERINO: Meaning that, could they win like -- so if you poll a governor --
KELLY: Oh, I see.
PERINO: Can that governor be replace by a Republican governor when there is a run off.
KELLY: Uh-hm. There is a lot for him to consider.
PERINO: So much.
KELLY: He's going to need somebody who understands Washington and walk him through. There are rumors that perhaps he might choose Reince Priebus as his chief of staff to run, you know, this process and we shall see.
PERINO: A trusted guy.
KELLY: They have been saying nice things about each other lately.
KELLY: Dana, great to see you.
PERINO: You too.
KELLY: Governor, you too.
So, remember all of the polls that said Hillary Clinton would win? The Fox News Decision Desk, not the desk itself, but Arnon Mishkin is here to explain what happened.
Plus, with the growing number of writers suggesting President Obama may have been a big issue in this presidential race. Constitutional Attorney Jonathan Turley is here with a warning for the road ahead.
KELLY: Breaking tonight. I want to get back on the streets New York where we see thousands of protesters gathered around Trump tower, after some noisy marches thru Midtown Manhattan and among many other cities this evening in response to the election of Donald Trump. Fox News reporter Rob Schmidt is out there with the crowd. Rob?
SCHMITT: Megyn, we see the slow dispersal of this crowd, still thousands strong within the inside of it, which is right here behind me. And about maybe a couple thousand have left at this point and still thousands inside of there. The resiliency, you have to admire of these protesters. It is cold out here in New York City tonight. We saw a lot of rain. They walked two miles through midtown Manhattan, putting midtown at a complete gridlock at 7:00 at night.
Which you know is a very busy time, walking up Broadway, up to 6th Avenue, over here on the 5th and up to Trump Tower. We have seen so many people and a few more coming back. Now we've seen a lot more leave. In order to keep this more civil and to keep it safe for the kids we want to talk to someone here, named Anthony, who we pulled out of the crowd. Anthony you are out here protesting tonight. What is it that brought you out here specifically? What has angered you to bring you out here?
ANTHONY, PROTESTER: I don't believe that Donald Trump is representing me and my peers honestly and -- Donald Trump is a (BEEP). Thank you.
SCHMITT: I tried to have a civil conversation. You know I think part of the reason why a lot of people have a hard time taking this protests seriously is, because so many people behave that way. What are going to do? But there is obviously a lot of anger out here and we tried to get somebody for you and get somebody that has an intelligent conversation. Didn't work too well, Megyn are you still there?
KELLY: Rob, thank you. You know, that is the problem, people want us to listen to them and then they behave like that. Then we go away and move on to our guest, who knows how to behave. Earlier today, we saw college student burning flags on some campuses. While other schools, there are concerns that student were too traumatized to go to class. And the universities allowed them to skip.
Jonathan Turley is a constitutional law attorney and Professor at George Washington Law, great to see you, professor. That is just sick. We have a series on this show called cupcake nation. This is exactly what I'm talking about. You tell me whether allowing students to skip classes in college, because they are so upset about an election completely misunderstands the purpose of college.
JONATHAN TURLEY, GEORGE WASHINGTON SCHOOL OF LAW: I think it does. You know, there is a same response after the Ferguson, Missouri, a protest and some faculty say you don't have to take tests or come to school. And this is the point. You know, in college you learned a lot about being a citizen. And the burning of the flag these protests is really ignorant and hateful act. You know that flag speaks to rights not to results. You can't say that you like the Democratic process, but only if it comes out your way. It is like saying, I like going to baseball games, but only for the score.
What is being missed here particularly with the student, and particularly concerned with law student, is that we are raising a generation of emotional Hemophilia, you know that if legal or political things don't go your way, if something upset you, you sort of have a modern version of the vapors. And that is not a good thing for us to support. I mean, if you feel that anger, if you feel hurt, then it should be used as a motivation to learn more, to get out there, and to do things.
KELLY: The vapors, I love that and especially when you think about law student. Law student who cannot function in the face of what they perceive as injustice. You get it? You get the irony? A law student who cannot -- ok, good luck in the actual practice of law. It is not going to work out too well for you.
TURLEY: I had to say, at George Washington, a lot of my students were upset with the results. They were in class. They were fired up, and that is good. There are some students that celebrated the results last night, others denounced it. But they were all in class. And that is the important thing. I did give students off yesterday, so they can participate in the election.
KELLY: Well, that a different story. That is a different story all together. But we are seeing this festering of this cupcake nation, which I would submit to you is, actually one of the reasons why Donald Trump got elected. People are sick of this kind of, you know you can't say a word that is potentially offensive. And that would include any discussion of social issues on college campuses. It has gone to an extreme. All right, let me ask you whether you think, because you have been very vocal and you actually had a role in challenging some of Barack Obama's executive actions as president. You tell me whether you think last night's results were a repudiation of some of those executive overreaches of his.
TURLEY: I think it was in part. I mean first of all we do have to remember that voters were quite clear with the Democratic Party that they did not want an established figure. And they went out and found the ultimate establishment figure. They also said they did not want a vote for Hillary Clinton. She had many negatives. And so the results in that sense shouldn't be particularly astonishing.
But I do think that there was this growing disconnect between citizens and their government. You know when Barack Obama was pushing forward his agenda as he had every right to do. He tried to change congress and failed. The Republicans actually fought off that challenge. And when he came back, he said, that he would go unilaterally. That he would go it alone. And I think that I for a lot of citizens made them think I really don't count. And in fact, they haven't counted much until last night.
Whatever you may think about this election, whatever you may think about Donald Trump, and this is a popular response of the American people. They want to count. And they did last night. Now, you know, so I think that what we have to do is first of all, honor the system, the Democratic choice that was made, and we can have disagreements. We can have passionate disagreements. But we also have to stay in the game and respect each other enough to say we have a good system and it swings like a pendulum. But we still stay committed to each other and to that system.
KELLY: And we are proud of our system. We are proud of it.
TURLEY: You should be.
KELLY: You may not like the results every time, but it works and it works usually quite beautifully. Jonathan Turley, great to see you, thanks for being here.
TURLEY: Thanks, Megyn.
KELLY: So the big question for so many today, what was the deal with all the polls? Virtually all of -- all but two, and had Hillary Clinton with a comfortable lead going into last night's election.
Chris Stirewalt and our chief number cruncher is in Michigan, my buddy from the decision desk, are here next.
KELLY: Donald Trump has been president-elect for almost 24 hours now. And folks are still talking about what happened with the polls running up to this race. The popular vote tally right now, Mrs. Clinton is up by one-fifth of one point, but the national polling average just hours before voting booths opened had Clinton up by three point. And going into last night the exit polls were suggesting that Mrs. Clinton was headed to comfortable win. Fox News Decision Desk Team Members are for accountability -- no, they weren't the pollsters. They weren't the pollsters, but first, we turn to Trace Gallagher, live in New York City for some of the details; Trace?
TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Megyn, some analyst are now trying to sugar coat the outcome by claiming the polls really weren't that far off in that polling errors of three percent or pretty common. Of course in a presidential race, three percent is a boat load of votes and some of the key battle ground state polling averages was off by more than three percent. In fact Wisconsin was off by 7.5. Ohio was off by 5 percent, Michigan by just under 4 and Pennsylvania was off by 3. But Larry Sabato wasn't about to sugar coat his crystal ball. He called the polls an industry wide failure that is going to be quote studied up the wazoo. Watch.
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LARRY SABATO, UVA'S CENTER FOR POLITICS DIRECTOR: We were wrong, OK? The entire punditry, industry, the entire polling industry, the entire analyst industry, and I want to use this opportunity to take my fair share of the blame. We were wrong.
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GALLAGHER: The American Association for Public Opinion Research agreed with the Dr. Sabato but not everyone got it wrong. The USCLA Times poll which was largely dismissed had been seeing a wave of Trump support for months and for most of the summer and fall the L.A. Times poll was giving Trump about six points more than the polling averages.
The same poll also said Trump's odds of winning will come down to how he mobilizes white voters especially white men. And interestingly it found that Trump voters, especially women, were less comfortable telling pollsters they supported Trump. The Investor's Business Daily TIP poll also predicted a Trump victory. The man who runs that poll says despite Democrats having more registered voters across the country, he thought GOP turnout would be equal, because they're simply was more enthusiasm, Megyn?
KELLY: Trace, thank you.
Two members of our team The Fox News Decision Desk are here with me, Chris Stirewalt, a Fox News Digital Politics Editor and Arnon Mishkin, Director of the Fox News Decision Desk, the director is here. Mr. Director, in a line or two, what was it? Why was this, essentially missed? I realize that there is margin of error. Skip that nonsense. What happened?
ARNON MISHKIN, FOX NEWS DECISION DESK DIRECTOR: I think what was missed, was the implications of the poll. The polls, all the polls, I think, actually accurately provided information about the electorate and what was missed, was missed by analyst reading those poll numbers and saying, what does that mean? What was going on all year long or all season long since the conventions, Hillary Clinton and most polls was floating at 45 percent. Donald Trump was floating at around 38 to 40 percent. When Donald Trump didn't do well in three debates, when he got into a fight with Miss Universe, he would sink three or four points, in that average. And Clinton didn't go up at all.
KELLY: And what should that have told everyone?
MISHKIN: That should have told everybody that if you're not with Hillary Clinton now, what piece of information could you provide someone to get them to go with Clinton? And if you ever tried to tell that to someone they tell you, you're doing Trump spin. And I would argue that, the people who sort of were focused on the difference rather than focused on that Clinton number were not doing Trump's -- they were doing Trump spin, because they were making people think that there's no doubt Clinton is going to win and that, I think, dampened her turnout.
KELLY: But was there in fact the shy Trump voter? There was, wasn't there?
CHRIS STIREWALT, FOX NEWS DECISION DESK: There are always shy voters.
KELLY: No, no, no, but this was something that was a question going into last night. Whether there was a shy Trump voter the pollsters weren't getting to and results last night proved the answer was yes.
STIREWALT: Then there were shy Obama voters in 2012. And there were shy Clinton voters this time around too.
KELLY: The untold story, this is Rove earlier tonight. Untold stories the defection avoids to third Party or the failure to vote. Do you agree with that?
STIREWALT: I think the biggest story in the election of all is that in counties, in the upper Midwest, in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota, that you had counties that had turnarounds of 20 points. You have people who are voting for Barack Obama in 2012, white voters, middle class white voters turning around and voting 20 point turnarounds in these counties. It is not that they were shy. It is they were telling us, they were there, they were available. We caught the vote.
KELLY: The undecideds weren't undecided. That is what the write-up said today. They were secretly for Trump and they didn't want to say it. Is that wrong? Did you read those write-ups?
MISHKIN: I actually agree with that.
KELLY: Aha! Go ahead.
MISHKIN: I think the undecided voter, they decided one thing, they weren't voting for Clinton.
STIREWALT: I agree with that.
And that they were trying.
KELLY: Those are the shy Trump voters.
STIREWALT: But what I am saying is, every year, every four years, the problem that I have is that right now, Larry Sabato, my dear friend, Trace, everybody says, the polls were a disaster. Guess what, if the polls were a disaster this year? They were even worse in 2012, because they missed it by a larger margin.
KELLY: Ok. We're fine with that too.
MISHKIN: I'm not sure they were so shy as much as they were very skeptical about Clinton. They weren't ready to vote for her.
MISHKIN: And I think if you were in the middle and you were convinced that some of the stuff Donald Trump was saying was correct. But you had some skepticism about, some of the temperament issue, if the conventional wisdom is there is no doubt Clinton is going to win, a person like that has no trouble voting for Trump to express their position.
KELLY: And they did.
KELLY: Thanks to you, both, great job, both of you. It's been a pleasure.
STIREWALT: Thank you.
MISHKIN: Thank you.
KELLY: Last word of the night goes to a woman who spent the last 15 months fighting night and day for Donald Trump. She is live, next.
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TRUMP: We will embark upon a project of national growth and renewal. I will harness the creative talents of our people, and we will call upon the best and brightest to leverage their tremendous talent for the benefit of all. It's going to happen.
We have a great economic plan. We will double our growth and have the strongest economy anywhere in the world. At the same time, we will get along with all other nations. Willing.
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KELLY: That was Donald Trump roughly 18 hours ago sharing some of his plans after learning he had finally won a long and hard fought race for the White House. Our next guest has been on the broadcast for almost every step of that race. So we wanted to finish tonight with Katrina Pierson, now former national spokesperson for the Trump campaign and Richard Fowler, a Fox News contributor and senior fellow for the New Leaders Counsel.
Kat, let's start with you and congratulations on what a win last night. I can only imagine what it was like for you watching it with team Trump. Your thoughts on what voters were telling America yesterday.
KATRINA PIERSON, FORMER NATIONAL SPOKESPERSON FOR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN: Well, I think the voters unlike those inside the Beltway saw the genius in Donald Trump. And the fact that he was such a gifted speaker that he spoke directly to them, bypassed the media and bypassed really all of the pollsters and really talked to them about what was important to them.
These voters have been out there, they've been frustrated, because their health care premiums are going up. We have a president and a Congress, and an elected officials really, who haven't been putting their interests first. Always had been more money to even terrorist nations, but nothing here for those who those who are hardworking. And they understood that, they know that Donald Trump wants to fight for them. I've been on this show many times and very confident that Donald Trump is going to be the next president of the United States and he was going to get some of the minority vote and he did better than Mitt Romney in that area as well.
KELLY: He did slightly better. Richard, your thoughts, did Katrina just nail it? I mean do you disagree with anything she just said?
RICHARD FOWLER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR AND SENIOR FELLOW FOR THE NEW LEADERS COUNSEL: I got to tell you, Megyn, it is very rare that I agree with Katrina, but I do. I think want Donald Trump showed is that he really had a conversation with the American people. And I think one thing the Democrats can learn from this after this 18 months of a crazy campaign, because a lot of Democrats tonight that are hurt. Half of the country that Donald Trump will now have to run doesn't like him. But we have to learn as progressives and Democrats is how to have conviction and argument. What I will give Donald Trump that I didn't think you saw from the Clinton campaign and Democrats is we waffled on some of the issues that really affect our base.
KELLY: You think we chose the right candidate? One who inspired demes?
FOWLER: No, I mean, I think that is part of it, Megyn. We picked a candidate we talked about over and over about raising a minimum wage. Hillary Clinton changed how much the minimum wage should be raised three times. Instead of saying, I am for $15 an hour, point blank period, that is where the movement, that is where I am.
KELLY: No he doesn't Richard. You know, Democrats were reluctant to nominate her. They were thinking too serious about Bernie and meantime she was getting debate questions fed to her and the establishment of the DNC side was helping her win.
Katrina, we got 30 second left. I will give you the last word.
PIERSON: Well, I just want to thank you. You know, you were the first one to congratulate me on air once I had this appointment. I have been honored to serve Mr. Trump and his family on this journey, because we are going to make America great again.
KELLY: You are very gracious. It has been a pleasure having you.
PIERSON: Thanks, Megyn.
KELLY: Thanks for working with us throughout the primary season and general election. Thanks to both of you. We'll be right back.
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KELLY RIPA, HOST: You know who has been great today? Megyn Kelly. Yeah.
KELLY: Thank you very much.
RIPA: Last 24 hours. And Megyn has a book coming out on November 15th. Did you all know this? Megyn has a book called "Settle for More" and speak about a good side. They captured it on the cover.
KELLY: Oh, thank you, the magic of retouching. Comes out this Tuesday, I'm going on your competitor, I guess, Dr. Phil.
KELLY: Because the book title is based on his saying the only difference between you and someone you envy is, you settled for less, so settle for more is my life philosophy. It helped me a lot.
RIPA: Yeah. The motto around here, just settle.
KELLY: You will never know.
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KELLY: Kelly Ripa could not have been nicer. She was so sweet and her entire team was very sweet. And it was the first time at my life I have ever sat at the anchor desk and thrown confetti, using a confetti wand at the audience. I think we need to incorporate this.
Sean Hannity, he's going to be doing it, when he comes off in 30 seconds, he is in that place, right now.
SEAN HANNITY, HOST, “HANNITY”: I came in in happy mood. I just said, anything happen in the last 24 hours?
KELLY: He got the confetti going. I have never seen him so happy. Look at that smile.
HANNITY: Oh my god, million dollar smile, because we will now have some more money in our pocket. Ow.
KELLY: You know what though, seriously, I congratulate Katrina Pierson. Congrats to you too, Sean, because you were way out there.
HANNITY: Oh, I was way out there.
KELLY: And it was a great victory for you and for Donald Trump. Great to see you, see you tomorrow night at 9:00.
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