This is a rush transcript from "The Five," November 4, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Eric Bolling along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Juan Williams, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. Its 5:00 in New York City and this is "The Five."
Just four days and brand-new proof of the mainstream media's collusion with the Clinton campaign to help Hillary. The evidence keeps piling up with each WikiLeaks drop. There are dozens of examples, but here is just a handful of the names in the liberal media who have been caught this week alone with their pro-Clinton bias.
Glenn Thrush of "Politico," George Stephanopoulos of ABC, John Harwood of CNBC, Donna Brazile formerly with CNN and Maggie Haberman and Mark Leibovich with the "New York Times." Dana we'll start with you on this one. I mean, some of these things are petty outstanding. Glen Thrush if I'm not mistaken sent an e-mail to Podesta saying, "Here's the piece I'm going to write. If you don't like something, let me know. I will take it out."
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Well, I've been a press secretary work since 1995. I imagine if you go back and find e-mails especially when I was just starting out talking to reporters, it's not unheard of for someone to send you an article and say, talk to -- this is based on the interview that we had -- did I have anything wrong here, because reporters don't like to get things wrong. That's unusual, it doesn't always happen.
And also I found when I was actually in the White House, it was almost impossible to get a reporter to correct or change anything. So, I agree some of this stuff looks bad but I also know what it's like to be at least on the press secretary side of things trying to arrange interviews with reporters. And I have to say, if WikiLeaks -- the show on the other foot, what kind of things would they find from conservative leaning media to people like the Trump campaign?
BOLLING: Greg, you can't be all right with this. Are you all right with this?
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Well I mean, again, yeah, imagine if the Trump e-mails were hacked. I mean, it would be a who's who of flag waving fan boys and we'd all be going like, oh man, oh jeez, I hope they don't find mine, you know. I said it yesterday, he that is without sin among us, you know, cast the first stone. There is media bias in there. I went through the entire list. We just named names and we didn't get one single bit of evidence on that, just the names.
But we know that, you know, out of this thick pile, I found like three pretty ugly things. I mean, you have Glenn Hutchins, you have Thrush, you have Brazile, but the other things are basically people kissing butt to get access, like they're trying to get an interview. So they say, oh, you know what, Hillary looks really good. She looks really good. And maybe that will help. There's a lot of that in this page.
PERINO: That's how I got suckered into granting an interview in January 2009 to a reporter who I will not name. But he has been in a deep freeze with me ever since because he called me and said he really wanted to do this exit interview with George W. Bush because he felt he had a raw deal. And he was going to set the record straight.
And I said, wow, this is amazing. That would be great. It was a wire service. So I grant access. I go the full nine yards. He gets to go to the oval office. That piece came out and it was the worst piece of you know what I have ever seen.
BOLLING: Watch your mouth.
PERINO: I felt so bad about falling for that. But that was how he got it -- he convinced me that he was going to write this good piece. And so sometimes that happens.
BOLLING: Okay, can I add some Hollywood (ph) to that?
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: We're going to get him, Dana.
PERINO: I know. He knows who he is.
BOLLING: At least as bad as any -- the rest of them sending e-mails to Podesta saying, hey, this is where I want to go with this, what do you think of this? I mean, it's ridiculous what Harwood did. So, Donna Brazile gets fired from CNN for what she did and rightly so, she should have. CNN got rid of the best.
GUILFOYLE: They're doing an investigation. We don't know what happened.
BOLLING: But with some of these other ones. Glenn, I mean, Thrush saying I'm a hack, here is my piece, tell me where I'm wrong. I mean, are you okay with it?
GUILFOYLE: Yeah, I mean, look, this is what we've been talking about at this network for so long about the mainstream media bias and media bias that is prevalent. It's been focused on and highlighted in a really extraordinary way during this political process of the primaries and the general election.
So, you know, all of this is coming out, but again, I'm quite sure that there is some of this, you know, on the other side, people working or talking and that -- you know, to be fair. But nevertheless, this is what's being exposed so maybe everyone's going to learn from it and perhaps by airing their dirty laundry out, they're going to aspire to do better and more professional journalism.
GUTFELD: OK, one good thing about this whole e-mail thing is, this stuff has been around since the beginning of time. We know there's liberal bias. The e-mails act in a way like a flashlight in a dark alley. Now you are seeing all the rodents and everything happening. So it is helpful to know that we already -- we knew it exists.
PERINO: We weren't crazy.
GUTFELD: Yeah, we weren't crazy.
BOLLIUNG: Can I -- Juan, not a big distinction on some of these things. There's a big -- there should be a huge, huge line here between "the news journalists and opinion journalists," should there not be?
JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: Absolutely.
BOLLING: OK, and so talk to me about these examples we talked about here.
WILLIAMS: Well, I think what you see here is what Dana described and I was just hoping Dana wasn't going to call me out at some point. I'm sure I was trying with...
PERINO: Juan, I was trying to get interviews. I would try to get you to come to interviews with full respect.
WILLIAMS: Well, I'm just saying, I think reporters are always trying to ingratiate themselves left and right wing, that's just the truth. So Greg says, yes, there's a liberal bias. I don't think there's any question as to liberal bias in most of American media. But let's stop for a second and think about two things -- I would ask you to pay attention to Eric.
One is, I just can't believe it but I think the liberal and conservative media had just bought whole hog the idea of Russia leaking information to damage one candidate, one candidate. And I don't know how we get by that. I just think there's corruption in there. I know most people say, well, it's out there Juan, what are you going to do with it? You can't ignore it, but I just think, wow! This is amazing. We're letting a foreign government influence our election.
Second thing to say is, there's a whole industry, a whole industry that has really taken to Trump. I'm thinking about cable news, tweeting, partisan websites, Steve Bannon who is running Breitbart now runs his campaign, and there's, you know, a member -- Ted Cruz's dad working for the -- assassinate JFK. That was all over the front of the "National Enquirer." And you think about people like Peter Schweizer who's book, "Clinton Cash" is now behind the whole FBI thing. Peter Schweizer, Ed Klien, you know, "Guilty As Sin" (inaudible) Dinesh D'Souza...
BOLLING: What does that have to do with some this...
GUTFELD: Hey, watch it.
BOLLING: ...with this mainstream, these liberal mainstream media outlets and these e-mails exposing them with their conflict...
WILLIAMS: There's no question. I said I granted you to your point in terms of that's wrong. They shouldn't do it. I think they're trying to ingratiate themselves for the most part. I don't know they are lying or slanting news because that would then call into question their credibility. But in terms of like trying to, you know, buddy up and I'm your friend and I really think your candidate has had a raw deal as Dana was portraying, that happens with American press...
GUTFELD: Let me respond to Juan...
BOLLING: I mean, we are cutting them a whole lot of slack. These people call themselves news journalists. They're not the opinion types who may or may not have some opinions about -- maybe even contact campaigns, which they -- they come out and say they have. These people allegedly are the straight journalists that say, hey...
WILLIAMS: Wait, you said they shouldn't contact campaigns?
BOLLING: Well, not offering them, you know, editorial on their own pieces. I would think that would be a problem.
WILLIAMS: No, no, no. I think that's illegitimate.
BOLLING: That I think Donna Brazile's actions warranted exactly what she got.
GUTFELD: What about Corey Lewandowski? What about him? What is he doing, I mean, you have no problem with that? That he was getting paid by Trump?
BOLLING: He's a contributor and he's an opinion...
GUTFELD: Yes. He's getting paid by Trump while he was at CNN. I mean, like we're going off on Brazile but we don't talk about Corey, why, because he's with Trump?
BOLLING: I don't think anyone working -- I don't think anyone working or a campaign, working for the campaign, should be paid by a news organization. Unless you -- why do we point arrows saying, hey, working for the campaign, hello. And certainly the people we outlined in that full screen, none of them are that.
PERINO: Can I point out one thing from Glenn Thrush? Just again, to just provide a little context. So, at one point he sends an e-mail to Jennifer Palmieri -- she's a communication director from Clinton, and she writes back, "He did me the courtesy of sending me what he's going to say about me, seems fine." Meaning that he was saying, I did an interview so you, whether it's going to be good or bad, but giving her the courtesy because he's going to have to talk to her later on and have to have a relationship.
A lot of this stuff in these e-mails is about relationships. And again, the dark alley thing, I think that's a really good point. It's one of the reasons that press secretaries never ever want to have an office and like an open setting because when you talk to reporters, it can be just mortifying. Embarrassing when you are trying to figure out what they're going to say about your boss and you'll sometimes beg for them to tell you.
GUTFELD: I want to just push back on the -- Juan brought up the other examples of the people on the right, but that's what 2016 is about. It's an equalizing pendulum. You've got one culture versus another and for the past four decades, you've had pop culture media and academia create this massive liberal industrial complex. So when you mention all that new media, that's actually the pendulum.
The normal required adjustment to make it equal again, it's thumbing your nose at all the last four decades. That's why it's been helpful and explains the visceral impulse to vote for Trump, is because he's leading the thumbing of the nose against identity politics.
WILLIAMS: So, you know what I always --I think that you're right basically. Let me just start by saying that. But don't you think when you look at the fact that we are the number one cable network, when Rush Limbaugh is the number one talk radio show in America, when Drudge is up there, I guess, among the top websites in America. Breitbart has, you know, gone out -- it seems to me, wow! I don't think conservative points of view are in hiding or not...
GUTFELD: But then what happens is, they're not -- because all of the other areas are taken, this is where people -- this is one of the few avenues. You have talk radio, you have cable, Fox's...
GUILFOYLE: Where they gravitate for...
WILLIAMS: Few number one cable, number one radio, number one website, "Wall Street Journal," number one...
GUTFELD: Pop culture. One TV show...
BOLLING: You don't have several cable news network's who are competing for the same liberal talking points and the same liberal voice (ph). You don't have -- how many newspapers in America lean left or just blatantly left? I mean, there is. There's the...
WILLIAMS: I think...
BOLLING: How many reporters have admitted -- I think the number is something like 90 percent of reporters that were polled have donated to Democrats and something under 10 percent to conservative...
WILLIAMS: I don't know but I think that's wrong.
GUILFOYLE: It seems (inaudible) bias just like on that side so then...
BOLLING: But my point with this was, hey, these people aren't supposed to be doing this. They aren't supposed to have a liberal bias. They're supposed to be straight journalists. They're supposed to deliver the news. Listen, maybe I'm wrong.
WILLIAMS: No, no, no. I didn't say you're wrong. I think that you're on to something. I just want you to understand that Trump would never have come this far, Eric, if it's not for the tremendous exposure given to him by cable news of all sorts or the Russian leaks paid attention to by "New York Times" as well as Fox News. I just think, you know, there's a lot of support in the media that has elevated Trump.
Vernon Jordan had a piece in the paper -- Vernon Jordan was an adviser to Clinton -- say, "you know what, the wall between entertainment and news gone and we've to figure out what we're doing right now with the media because it's setting fire to people who tell lies, people who say anything. Experts are reviewed as idiots and people who are trying to gain some advantage with one camp or another and saying...
BOLLING: And somehow that's worse than the journalists that we just portrayed with a full screen. Somehow this, what you call conservative bias is worse than news people -- I don't know. Just throwing their journalism card, burning it, ripping it up saying, hey, I want to get in close because I want to make sure I have access to the candidate.
WILLIAM: I think you're right, but -- it's more than that you got to prove to me. You got to say these people are lying or they're slanting the news.
BOLLING: If you read the Harwood stuff and -- I don't think that would pass in any newsroom across the country.
BOLLING: All right, we'll leave it right there. What are the nominees been up to on the final Friday before election day? Live updates from the trail next.
PERINO: With four days left to go, the nominees are crisscrossing the battlegrounds. The latest average of polls show this race keeps on tightening in a four-way polling. Clinton only leads Trump now by two points. It's about the same in two-way surveys. What are their strategies to get across that finish line? Four days feels like a long time.
We have team Fox coverage. Carl Cameron is in Hershey, Pennsylvania where Trump will be appearing shortly. But we begin with Jennifer Griffin in Cleveland where Clinton will be attending a Jay Z concert later in her honor. Jennifer
JENNIFER GRIFFIN, FOX NEWS NATIONAL SECURITY CORREPSPNDENT: Hi Dana. Yes, we are here in Cleveland, Ohio. It is the last stop in a three-state campaign tour today for Hillary Clinton. She started in Pennsylvania and is speaking right now in Detroit. She was introduced in Pittsburgh by billionaire Mark Cuban who as you remember is one of the few people who can really get under Donald Trump's skin. That is one of the reasons that they turned to him at key moments like this. They were continuing to call on Donald Trump to release his taxes now that there are new revelations that he may have used an illegal tax loophole.
Cuban and campaign chair John Podesta spoke to reporters on the plane and called for Governor Chris Christie to resign from overseeing Trump's transition team after two of his staff were just convicted for their role in Bridgegate and are facing the possibility of years in prison. President Obama was campaigning for Hillary Clinton in the all important state of North Carolina today. A Trump supporter stood up with a Trump sign and it took the president a few moments to calm the crowd. He is crisscrossing Florida and North Carolina, making a passionate case for Hillary Clinton.
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BARACK OBAMA, UNITED STATES PRESIDENT: She was loyal to me. Her efforts were not flashy. They weren't always fully appreciated. She made me a better president.
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GRIFFIN: So, we are here in front of this line of Jay Z supporters. They are coming out to hear him sing. There are some rumors that Beyonce may make an appearance as well. This is an attempt to get out of the vote and since the Clinton campaign has had trouble motivating a little bit of enthusiasm gap among African-American voters. This is why you are hearing so much talk from President Obama targeting African-American voters today on the campaign trail.
There has been some good news from Florida today in terms of the Latino vote. There have been record numbers of Latino voters in Florida, up 120 percent from this time in 2012. Back to you.
PERINO: All right, thank you, Jennifer. Now for the other side of the campaign, Carl live in Hershey, Pennsylvania. We remember it fondly, Carl.
CARL CAMERON, FOX NEWS CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Sweetest town in America, right. And Trump doesn't have Jay Z coming but he's got Hershey, Pennsylvania awaiting him for later this evening. He too is doing a three- day swing today, all battleground states. He started out in New Hampshire, the state where he won his first primary, and at that event he talked about today's jobs numbers that show the unemployment rate has dropped from 5 to 4.9 percent.
And he criticized that noting that while some 125,000 jobs were created or maybe it was 160, excuse me, about 425,000 jobs were lost. People left the work where he was critical of that and sort of dovetailed that with his opposition to the Trans Pacific Partnership and NAFTA saying that Mexico is taking our jobs. It's a one-way street into Mexico and what we get in return is drugs and unemployment.
As it happens, that 4.9 percent unemployment number is actually the lowest it's ever been on the jobs day report before the presidential election for ten of the last -- for 40 years, ten of the last presidential cycles. It's never been 4.9. Normally, it's been higher for the last 40 years. Political reporters have been waiting for this thinking that it may be a bad reflection on the Obama administration as it's often been on for incumbents in the past. Of course, he is not on the ballot, Hillary is.
And the unemployment number going down for her works better for her. Trump made his criticism of it because of how many job losses there are in New Hampshire where the unemployment rate is 2.9 percent, the lowest in the country. His last event, battleground state two was in Ohio -- Wilmington to be specific. And there he pretty much continued his attack on the Clinton campaign and Hillary Clinton for the newly FBI discovered e-mails on Huma Abedin's husband's laptop, but he got a little salty in describing that and him.
And then tonight he'll be here in Hershey, Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, one of the four battleground states he has to win -- North Carolina, Florida, Pennsylvania and Ohio. And here is one where Hillary Clinton has had a pretty stable lead for a while and even that's begun to erode as virtually all the battleground and national polls show that this race is within the margin of error.
PERINO: All right Carl, thank you so much. In fact, I looked up the RealClearPolitics average on last poll average before the election in 2012. It had Obama at 48.9 and Romney at 48.1. So, we might be facing that again. What about the unemployment numbers there? I think that Trump resonates still with his supporters.
BOLLING: Yeah. You call it exactly how it is. Yeah, it's 4.9 but if you add in the millions upon millions of people who have left the work force -- 91 people are out of work. If you add that back in...
PERINO: Ninety-one million.
BOLLING: ...and have them look -- if they were looking for jobs, the real unemployment rate, the real number that they put out, is 9.5 percent. That's real unemployment. Forty-five million people are on food stamps. Another 45 million people are living in poverty. The economy is not good. The economy is good for the upper 1 percent or upper maybe 3 percent, Wall Street type's investors. It's been great for them but everyone down up until you hit that $30,000 threshold below -- between $30,000 and $250,000, you're getting squeezed and you're getting crushed across the board.
That's why there was a poll out today, Michigan is tied. Now, you're not going to use that poll, because (inaudible) or some other group polled, but Michigan is clearly tightening up. New Hampshire flipped. RealClearPolitics, New Hampshire is -- Trump is winning in New Hampshire. He's winning in North Carolina. He's winning in Ohio. He's having about a 1.5 or 2 percent problem in Florida. This is anyone's -- this is a jump ball I think.
WILLIAMS: I think -- I would say in support of your point, the race is tight. I mean, this headline I saw in the "Washington Post" gave me a heart attack folks. It said, "Trump Never Closer to President Than He is At This Moment."
GUILFOYLE: Juan is crying inside.
WILLIAMS: I was like, oh my God. Help me. Help me, Lord.
PERINO: Wait until Monday night (inaudible). You have the coverage on Monday night leading into election night, Kimberly, it looks like it is tied and everybody is going to want to watch the next day.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, of course. I mean, it is. This is great. It's like a pennant race. It's like the World Series. You should have...
PERINO: Game seven.
GUILFOYLE: Yeah, game seven. And so now it's like tied up essentially so, they're battling it out. Let's see. Anything could happen. Here it is Friday. I expect probably we'll have even more news over the weekend going strong into the finish line here for the election. Both teams are campaigning hard, right. You know, like, Hillary Clinton brought out the closer, you know, President Obama...
PERINO: Jay Z.
WILLIAMS: Hey, and before you go to Gregory, who is sitting there like a mute, let me just say...
PERINO: I want to get his points in.
WILLIAMS: But he hasn't said a word. I don't know what's...
PERINO: I know. I'm turning to him now.
WILLIAMS: Because he's so polite.
PERINO: I wonder why, Juan.
WILLIAMS: He is so polite, that young man.
GUTFELD: The race is like a Siamese giraffe, neck and neck.
PERINO: We'll be right back.
GUTFELD: Thank you.
PERINO: All right, have any questions we can help answer before Tuesday. Post them now on facebook.com/thefivefnc. Facebook Friday, The Presidential Election Edition, it's coming up.
GUILFOYLE: Well, it's been a long road for Donald Trump to win the support of many within his own party. But as election day nears, it appears the GOP is coming together.
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MIKE PENCE, REPUBLICAN VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: The Republicans are coming home. They're coming home to elect Donald Trump as the next president and they're coming home to make sure Hillary Clinton is never elected president of the United States.
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GUILFOYLE: And here are a few examples.
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JASON CHAFFETZ, HOUSE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CHAIR: My wife and I did vote for Donald Trump last week. I think we're doing and going through a lot of the discussions that people all across this country are doing. I never, ever want to be able to say its president Hillary Clinton.
PAUL RYAN, HOUSE SPEAKER: I already voted here in Janesville before our nominee last week in early voting. We need to support our entire Republican ticket.
TED CRUZ, FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I voted for Donald Trump. I voted for Mike Pence. And I'm doing everything I can to defeat Hillary Clinton.
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GUILFOYLE: All right, so, nice little montage there of everybody coming together. You got Ted Cruz, you got Paul Ryan, so people making it clear that they are supporting the nominee. What do you think about the movement within the party?
PERINO: It certainly is doing a lot better like in July I think Donald Trump was at about 73 percent of Republicans said they would support him. Now it's up to 87 percent -- that's pretty high. Clinton has been able to get 90 percent of Democrats to say they are with her so I think that's pretty much a tie right there.
I was on a show the other day listening to Hugh Hewitt before I was going on and Paul Ryan was right before me. And I have to say, I wish that Donald Trump maybe have used him on the trail because he actually made one of the most persuasive cases for voting for Trump and also for a Republican unification and for the policy perspective of the things that could happen in the next congress.
GUILFOYLE: What stuck out to you?
PERINO: Well, it was just calm and rational and enthusiastic, and I feel like he was an asset that could have been used more thoroughly on the campaign.
WILLIAMS: Who were you talking about?
PERINO: Paul Ryan.
WILLIAMS: Paul Ryan wasn't willing to go out there and work with him.
PERINO: Well, I'm saying if you had heard what he said the other day on the Hugh Hewitt program where I was saying it was very persuasive, I think that they could have teased that out a little bit more and found a way do that. There were other reasons why he didn't go out, I understand that, but Donald Trump didn't want him around.
GUILFOYLE: You said he made the case well for the party.
PERINO: He made a very good case. So that's why I think you've seen this coming home effect.
GUILFOYLE: You can find a way to utilize that language and that rhetoric to push forward. OK, Bolling, what do you think about this? People on board.
BOLLING: I think this -- this tightening of the polls, the momentum that Trump is feeling, is all about these two potential -- potential indictments that Hillary Clinton may have.
Lucas Tomlinson, our D.C. producer, just right before air sent us out an e- mail saying two new Hillary Clinton e-mails discovered by the FBI and released by the State Department this afternoon, four days before the election. Classified information. So now there are two e-mails that we know that she -- Huma Abedin sent to Hillary Clinton, that involved classified information. Involves leaders from the UAE in Afghanistan and the UAE crown prince. So it's going to continue. If Trump is smart -- and I think he is smart -- just stay on message, stay on point. Let this stuff speak for itself.
GUILFOYLE: OK, Greg. So maybe they are feeling like perhaps there's some -- you know, the chance of victory and having a Republican ticket that's strong and voting straight down the board.
GUTFELD: It's scary. Because it could be so close that, if Trump loses, people aren't going to be happy. If Hillary loses, they're not going to be happy. And you have a Supreme Court of four against four. If it ends up like it did with Bush and what's his face -- the global warming guy -- it could be pretty ugly. This election night could be longer than puberty and twice as stressful.
GUILFOYLE: Are you still going through it? High-pitched voice.
GUTFELD: I don't buy the coming home metaphor at all, because when people always bring up home and family, it's to demand loyalty from you. And loyalty is not a principle. It is what you use as a substitute for principle. It's telling somebody, "Yes, I know we're doing wrong, but come on, we're family." Like whenever you try to get a raise and then you say, "I'm leaving your job," they go, "But I thought we were family." Doesn't work.
GUILFOYLE: All right.
WILLIAMS: Well, let me just say two quick things. One is, I think that the consolidation of the Republican vote is what's tightening the race that we've been talking about.
But why is that happening, especially when you look at people like Paul Ryan, Chaffetz and even Ted Cruz? I remember all the rumors and nastiness between Ted Cruz, "Lying Ted" and Donald Trump. These folks are afraid of what happens after the election. And they're afraid that in the new Republican Party that's to come, that they are going to be called out and said, "You didn't support our nominee. What kind of Republican are you?"
So they're afraid of a challenge from the right and especially from the talk radio crowd. They're going to eat them up, eat them alive.
And the second thing to say is here, by the way, you know, all this stuff about, "Oh, she's going to be indicted." You know, this is so much scurrilous rumor, innuendo. I don't think it's fair to anyone. We would never do that to Trump. If it was done by the liberal media, you would call it out. So let's just stop it.
BOLLING: One very good point. I think you're right about the bifurcation on the right going forward. That's why this election -- this might be a last opportunity for a very long time to have a GOP in the White House. Because if it doesn't go that way, as Greg points out, Supreme Court gets stacked left. Who knows what happens with voting rights on illegals and whatnot. You may never see another Republican...
GUTFELD: The could have blown apart the Republican Party.
BOLLING: Greg, we've got four days left. You have two choices left. You have Hillary liberal, or you have Donald Trump, who -- whatever.
GUILFOYLE: And then...
GUILFOYLE: The Supreme Court will be far more liberal if it's Hillary. I'll just tell you that. You would agree with that.
Stay right there. We answer your questions on the election next. It's "Facebook Friday. Stay tuned.
GUTFELD: It's "Facebook Friday." The last Friday before the election. And we've the last batch of your questions before the vote.
The first question comes from Mary Ellen Z. She asks, "If you were on the presidential ticket, who would be your running mate and why?" Kimberly, we'll start with you and work our way clockwise.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, well, we already did it.
GUILFOYLE: Me and D.P. Remember, we have bumper stickers?
GUTFELD: Yes. We do. So we have it. Who did it? Rochaumbaud. So we have it and who did it?
PERINO: FiveFanPhotoShop made that for us.
GUILFOYLE: There you go. So we're releasing all these.
PERINO: There you go. You answered one question with two.
GUTFELD: That's true. I don't believe you.
GUILFOYLE: I'll do all the -- killing ISIS.
GUTFELD: I think that's a terrible choice, because you're just going to get "The Five" vote. You should get somebody from another show.
GUILFOYLE: OK. Who would you like?
GUTFELD: I don't know. Who's that -- who's that nice fellow in the morning with the -- what are they, "FOX and Pals"? The curly-haired kid?
GUTFELD: The curly head?
GUTFELD: James Kilmeade.
GUILFOYLE: James Kilmeade.
And we would add Condoleezza Rice. Right?
All right. Let's move it around to Juan. If you were running for president, who would be your V.P.? Running mate.
WILLIAMS: Condi Rice would be terrific. I like her a lot.
GUILFOYLE: She's not available.
WILLIAMS: Not a lot about. OK. Can Brit Hume or he's not allowed? Because he's going to leave the 7 p.m. show.
GUILFOYLE: He's available.
WILLIAMS: He's available.
GUTFELD: He's available.
GUILFOYLE: He was trying to retire and have a good time and relax for a second.
WILLIAMS: Just for a minute. You know, I can't think. I don't know. Who else could I pick? I mean...
GUTFELD: I don't know. I'm not you, Juan. Only you.
WILLIAMS: Thank you.
Gutfeld: I'm moving past you now, Juan.
WILLIAMS: I pick Clarence Thomas.
GUTFELD: All right. Eric.
BOLLING: Can I follow on the same vein and pick Bill O'Reilly? If we win, I could step aside and let him be president?
WILLIAMS: Drain the swamp.
PERINO: Come back and...
GUTFELD: His next book would be called "Killing Bolling."
BOLLING: That's true.
GUTFELD: And be written with -- what's the guy -- I can't think of his name. That's the point. Dana.
WILLIAMS: Porter Berry.
PERINO: Is it -- are you allowed to have a family member as your vice- presidential choice?
GUILFOYLE: Is it Peter?
PERINO: Well, he's a good...
GUILFOYLE: Is it Jasper?
PERINO: He wasn't born in America, so that won't work. No.
My Uncle Matt, Matt Perino in Newcastle, Wyoming, is one of the wisest people I've ever known. Very practical, common sense. He runs the ranch in Newcastle, Wyoming. I would pick Matt Perino as my vice-presidential choice.
GUTFELD: I would pick a robot.
WILLIAMS: Oh, no.
PERINO: Totally unemotional.
PERINO: Never gets tired.
And they do all the work and I sleep.
GUTFELD: Do you remember yesterday when you said the World Series is unfair to people. It's biased towards people who are great athletes. I was just thinking about that last night, laying in bed at 3 a.m. in the morning. Robots, where the programmers are the athletes, and the robots are doing all the playing for you.
It's like what's the game with the fighting robots?
GUTFELD: I don't know.
I don't know what I'm talking about. Let's go to the next question before this completely falls apart. This is from Aileen R. She writes, what is the first thing -- we'll go this way. What is the first thing you will do a weekend after the election to unwind from it?
PERINO: Eight book signings.
PERINO: I'm going to head to Colorado. I have got -- it's on DanaPerino.com. You can check. Colorado. I get to go to Cheyenne, Wyoming on Sunday, November 13. Haven't been there in a while. And then I'm going to go to California, and then I'll be back.
GUTFELD: Wow. That's not unwinding at all.
PERINO: It's not unwinding.
GUTFELD: That's the opposite of unwinding.
PERINO: I will unwind on December 23.
BOLLING: I will go to the beach, no matter what the weather is, and spend the weekend and walk and run or do whatever and just relax and drink Blue Moons and vodkas.
BOLLING: No. Different nights.
GUILFOYLE: With the orange slices?
BOLLING: Yes, yes. Both of them.
GUILFOYLE: That's a good idea.
WILLIAMS: So -- so who won?
GUTFELD: We don't know. It doesn't matter.
WILLIAMS: Because if Trump wins, you guys are going to have to pick me up off the floor and you're going to resuscitate me. Juan, it's OK.
GUTFELD: We might not resuscitate you. I might forge an order, "Do not resuscitate."
GUILFOYLE: DNR order.
WILLIAMS: Leave him alone. Leave him alone.
GUILFOYLE: We'll sprinkle holy water on you.
WILLIAMS: But I'm planning at the moment to go watch the Washington football team. Look at Dana. She's so...
PERINO: That's a good one. No, that's as That's great.
WILLIAMS: And I think sleep. Because like Eric, I don't know. You get so wound up.
GUTFELD: You wake up in the middle of the night, and you're not sure what to do, where to go. Then you remember you've got to walk home.
GUILFOYLE: Thank God Uber sends you away.
GUTFELD: Uber is my house boy.
GUILFOYLE: Good idea.
What would I do?
PERINO: What are your plans? What are your plans?
GUILFOYLE: What are my -- I didn't make plans really yet.
PERINO: You remember 2000 and the recount in Florida?
GUILFOYLE: To be honest, I expect that we're going to be here and we're going to be working and covering -- I'm not kidding.
GUILFOYLE: So I'm planning for that.
GUILFOYLE: To be honest.
GUTFELD: Well, I will do what I do on the weekends, which is nude hot yoga, which I normally do in the park.
PERINO: That's disgusting.
GUTFELD: No, it's not. It's great. It's very therapeutic.
PERINO: How do you do hot yoga in the winter?
GUTFELD: It's -- you know, it's -- that's the challenge.
GUILFOYLE: It might be better. He dropped a few pounds.
GUTFELD: You know those people on the grates?
GUTFELD: What happened on the trail today? We'll show you next.
WILLIAMS: Today on the trail, the nominees talked jobs. Trump vowed to bring them back. Clinton said, they're already coming back.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: These numbers are an absolute disaster. Labor force participation has fallen to its lowest level in nearly 40 years. That's what's happening. New Hampshire has lost one in four of its manufacturing jobs since NAFTA. A deal signed by bill Clinton and supported by Hillary Clinton. It's going to end. Don't worry about it folks. Don't even think about it.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Now, my friends, we got some good news this morning. Our economy created 161,000 jobs last month. That is -- that is 73 straight months of jobs growth.
Donald Trump believes something different. He wants an economy that works for him. That's why he want to give the biggest tax breaks in history.
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WILLIAMS: So we have here the official start of the sprint to the finish line, Gregory. And it seems like both candidates are coming up with their final message to the voters. What are you hearing? What comes through to your consciousness?
GUTFELD: Well, I'm always frustrated when I hear about jobs. Because neither candidate are talking about the inevitable drain on jobs that will be coming in the next 10 to 20 years, which is automation. You can't blame Mexico and China for that. They are not stealing your jobs. It's going to be robots, artificial intelligence. You name it.
And it will be a great thing, because there are things we won't have do anymore that the robots will do. The problem is, what do you do when you have nothing to do? You tend to do a lot of things that are bad for you.
GUILFOYLE: That's what you do. That's what you do. And it's funny. Because right before we started I said, what are you writing, beautiful mind? Right up there. And he's like, "The robots, automation."
GUTFELD: It's what it is. I'm telling you.
GUILFOYLE: I know. I think you're going to be right is the problem.
But there's a lot to talk about. We've got problems across the board with health care, with you know, unaffordable health care, with too many regulations, taxes...
GUTFELD: Robots don't need health care, Kimberly.
GUILFOYLE: You're right. So then Obamacare can't kill them. Good point. Thank God for the robots. Someone he can't harm or Hillary can't harm.
WILLIAMS: Dana, what's the message that's making the biggest impression on you?
PERINO: I think it's Donald Trump in terms of change and especially on corruption. I think I mentioned that about three weeks ago when USA Today did a study that asked Americans, what is your biggest fear? The No. 1 fear was government corruption. Not national security. It wasn't the economy.
I actually think -- I think that it is hard to make an argument for him. It takes too long to explain the unemployment number. His voters understand it. But his voters are already locked in. If he's trying to get any remaining undecideds, I think that's harder. I would focus on Obamacare if I were he.
BOLLING: I think you just stay on everything that keeps leaking out. All the information that keeps coming out. I mean, there are things -- we lost three military personnel in Jordan in the last couple of days. A cop just got shot in New York who just died, one of two or three cops that got shot. He just died.
These are things that Donald Trump could use in his campaign. "Look, I'm the one who backs law enforcement. I'm the pro-military guy. I'm the guy who wants to strengthen our military, not weaken our military. I want to spend on military." These are things...
GUILFOYLE: Talk about the issues.
BOLLING: Yes. Stay on those issues. Stay in the moment.
GUILFOYLE: Tragic moment.
BOLLING: And say, this is why we need a safer, more secure country. And he's the guy to do it. He should...
WILLIAMS: By the way, I just happen to think -- you look at these jobs numbers. I think 4.9, that's unbelievable. I mean, Romney talked about six. This is 4.9. And then you talk about wages. Wages going up for the first time. I'm just stunned, first time since '09. That's a message...
BOLLING: Who was the president? Who was the president since '09? Who's the president that led this recovery?
GUTFELD: It took eight years, Juan. Eight years.
WILLIAMS: Because it was a deep hole.
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"One More Thing" up next.
BOLLING: All right. Time for "One More Thing" -- Greg.
GUTFELD: Time for...
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GUTFELD: Greg's Sports Corner.
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GUTFELD: All right. To me, please. The national hamster strawberry eating contest took place in Milpedes (ph), California, home to the Hamster Strawberry Eating Hall of Fame.
GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God!
GUTFELD: Here on the left you have Raymond Fur from Stockton. On the right you have Jay Claw from Sacramento. They went at it for 43 straight hours. It ended in a tie. Afterwards, they were then sacrificed to the Satan gods.
GUILFOYLE: You made them up.
GUTFELD: Maybe I did. They had a spirit dinner with John Podesta.
GUILFOYLE: I could beat them in a strawberry-eating contest.
GUTFELD: Blood sacrifice.
GUILFOYLE: Why does my face have to be on for that craziness?
Well, you know, mine is about a serious story about a legal case that we talked about on this network and everybody talked about. A jury found Rolling Stone magazine, its publisher and reporter, Sabrina Rubin Erdely, responsible for defaming a former University of Virginia associate dean in the 2014 article about sexual assault on the campus.
They concluded that they were responsible for libel with actual malice against the former UVA administrator, who overseas to oversees the sexual assault cases at the school. And you remember, this article was titled, "A Rape on Campus." The magazine was held responsible as well. The publisher, all across the board. So it's an interesting case.
GUTFELD: Amazing. We would be doing that story if we weren't doing campaigns. But it's amazing. That story.
GUILFOYLE: Yes, it really is. Anyway.
BOLLING: All right. Juanito.
WILLIAMS: Well, the Cubs finally got to have that World Series parade they've been waiting 108 years for. The players rode on double decker buses taking selfies. I mean, look at these crowds waiting to get into Wrigley Field. It was crazy.
An estimated 5 million people packed the seven-mile route that led fans through the city to Wrigley field.
By the way, schools shut down so the kids didn't have to play hooky. And the Chicago River, it was blue today, bright Cubs blue for the festivities. And Michael J. Fox, he tweeted out, "Cubs, one year late." Remember, he predicted in "Back to the Future" the Cubs would win the World Series in 2015.
BOLLING: Go Cubs.
GUTFELD: Go Cubbies.
BOLLING: I would love to have gone.
GUTFELD: I have makeup on my pants.
BOLLING: All right. So the white board is back.
GUILFOYLE: How did it get there?
BOLLING: By the way, the white boards are on Facebook and Twitter after the show.
There's a fantastic Wall Street Journal op-ed today, Cost of Clinton. And they talk about what -- Hillary Clinton is going to be Barack Obama on steroids, basically talking about the higher taxes that are -- she's going to bring. The Obamacare subsidies that are going to be jacked up. More money spent on entitlement and way more regulation on businesses.
And that will cost -- this is my two cents down here, that even after eight years, President Obama spending $9.6 trillion -- get this -- he will be the only U.S. president in history to not have one single year with 3 percent GDP growth. Not one single year of GDP -- you hear that? Not one. The only president in history. And spent $9.6 trillion doing it. You don't want more of this, folks. That's the point.
WILLIAMS: No, you don't want more 4.9 percent unemployment. That would be terrible.
BOLLING: They want me to tell you we're going to do more of this segment - - more of that topic tomorrow -- Dana.
PERINO: Well, you know, we love The Wall Street Journal. And I read the feature story today. And it was about Twinkies. Because there's an interesting thing about science. Remember when Twinkies was going out of business?
GUTFELD: About science?
PERINO: It has to do with science.
PERINO: So remember when Twinkies was going to go out of business?
PERINO: Well, that didn't happen. And there was a company came in and said, "We're going to fix this." One of the things they had to do was figure out how can they make the shelf life of a Twinkie last longer? It's not true that they last for ten years. That's a myth, as Eric and I were pointing out in the commercial break.
So they went to the scientists and said, "We need to get beyond 26 days. Now these have a shelf life of 65 days. Because of science.
GUTFELD: Not bad for a sponge.
GUILFOYLE: Isn't that amazing? What did they stick in it?
BOLLING: What is in it?
PERINO: It's an enzyme. It's totally safe.
GUILFOYLE: I've got to be honest with you...
BOLLING: "Kimberly's Food Court."
GUILFOYLE: Yes, in an abridged version of "Kimberly's Food Court."
PERINO: No graphics or anything, but I thought that was kind of neat. And Twinkies are going to survive.
WILLIAMS: But Dana, wouldn't it be better if they were actually fresh and good for you?
PERINO: You're not going to eat one?
WILLIAMS: Dana, that's not good for you.
GUILFOYLE: What are you talking about? Look at me, Juan.
PERINO: You know the two months when they're the most highest -- what are their highest sales? August when kids are going back to school and January when they go back.
GUTFELD: The most interesting fact is that it's actually considered a fruit.
BOLLING: Got to leave it right there. Tomorrow, 5 p.m. Eastern, we'll be here live. Special edition of "The Five," three days before election day. See you then. "Special Report" next.
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