USA Today urges readers not to vote for Donald Trump

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," September 30, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: I'm Eric Bolling and I'm with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Juan Williams, Dana Perino And Greg Gutfeld. It's 5:00 in New York City and this is "The Five."

Now that Donald Trump is about to take podium at a rally in Michigan to state Hillary Clinton lost to Bernie Sanders in the primaries. We're waiting for that. We'll take some of that. The Republican nominee has been working to counter attacks from all fronts this week. He has a lot of powerful enemies looking to take him down -- the Clintons, the mainstream media, even the U.N. body's official news service actually put out a tweet calling on millions of Americans abroad not to vote for Trump.

It was deleted about 20 minutes later and some sort of excuse was being made. Meanwhile, another big newspaper decided to go after trump. This time, USA Today taking a side in a presidential race for the first time in its 34-year history calling trump unfit for the presidency. He, of course, won't be taking that to heart. He never trusted the media anyway.


DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Oh, is the media dishonest. How dishonest are this people? How dishonest. Unbelievable. Not all, not all, but a big, big fat percentage.


BOLLING: Well, remember how trump took flack in the media for this week -- this week for saying he was given a defective microphone at the debate. Well guess what, four days later, the commission just today admitted it's actually true saying there were issues regarding Donald Trump's audio that affected the sound level in the debate hall. So, a lot to unpack, kg, are you composed.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: what are you laughing about?

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: I can't tell, remember?

GUTFELD: Can I talk about it?

BOLLING: sure, sure. You're supposed not to. Anyway, so we have USA Today, we have the debate, we have the tweets, what do you want to start with?


GUILFOYLE: Whatever you like.

BOLLING: All right, let's start with USA Today. USA Today saying for the first time with their 34-year history they're would recommend not voting for somebody.

GUILFOYLE: OK. Well, I mean look, that's what this country is founded on, first amendment principles. People being able to give their voice, their opinions to say they want to support a candidate. To say they would not like to support a candidate, you know. So, you're going to see this happen but then of course you see with trump.

He is going to hit them back and say ha, ha, and now you're going to lose subscribers. So, this is the way the cycle works. It is a free market and people can choose to buy, to subscribe or not based on their ideology or political persuasion and maybe sometimes those things pass because you may actually miss the paper.

BOLLING: Juan, can I stay in there with you for a little bit. I notice that the USA Today is going to publish them, right?

WILLIAMS: Yes sir.

BOLLING: Same with the Arizona Republic, the one they also said that they'll recommend Hillary? I think they went so far as and said they recommend Hillary for the first time is Democrats. Any links there?
Publishing a kind of company that says we're against it.

WILLIAMS: No. I think they have an independent editorial. I think the key here is you have people increasingly saying, you know, Trump has a chance to win and we think he's a danger to the country. And so I think people are speaking from principles and you see it now across political lines. People who are conservatives as well as people who are liberals saying this and the news this week has been the number of conservative editorial boards who are willing to stand up and say, you know what, we know that there are folks who are big Trump fans who may cancel on us or whatever, but we are not going to stand by this moment in history and allow the country to fall into the demagogue.

Now, what's interesting to me is Trump this morning goes on a twitter storm and he's back into the fat pipe, right, with the Miss Universe. Well, I think in a way again, this is Trump media strategy, you know. He just says, you know what, let's focus on this as oppose to all the scandal with his Foundation that he didn't have a permit to raise money with, with Cuba where he's doing business, where it's illegal and nobody pays any attention.

BOLLING: We can talk that stuff in the next 58 minutes. Staying with the media, staying with the newspapers, did you see Chicago Tribune back Gary Johnson?


BOLLING: I mean, the day after...

PERINO: There is a few paper -- oh, well, that's...

BOLLING: (Inaudible)

PERINO: It's like throwing away your endorsement -- it would be one thing of sort of like USA Today which has never endorsed. This is unusual for them. It might be -- if you are going to endorse Johnson, you might as well just, maybe just say we're not going to have anyone to recommend especially after that. But the thing for Trump, it might work in his favor in this regard, and so you mention the media is unpopular, the U.N. is (inaudible) and ridiculous, and then the Clintons are not liked.

So, he's not trying to persuade any of those people anyway. He's actually trying to beat them and one of the things we saw in Michigan, a couple of hours ago where Trump is going to be speaking -- we're going to take it to you live when it comes up  -- but people stood in line for hours in the pouring rain in order to see him. So, he's actually -- I would not worry too much about all of these things. Like the U.N. is never going to be for a Republican president.

They're always going to be for the Clintons, the media largely, probably on editorial pages not going to be for him. So, it's actually for the most part doing a lot better than it would have if you were just a regular Joe Republican.

GUILFOYLE: Dana, also because we're talking about the -- he's the outsider the outsider candidates. So that he's not getting those endorsements by those big papers.

PERINO: But it is significant that there is history being made by some of these papers like Arizona Republic and the USA Today making that...

BOLLING: All right, Greg, Dana points out the U.N. tweeted -- they're like 8 million, I think 8 million abroad would have affected if they listened to the U.N. but Dana also astutely points out most Republicans don't listen to them.

GUTFELD: Well, I have to (inaudible). All right, I haven't talked...

BOLLING: I know, that's why, yeah.

WILLIAMS: Can we just mention that they said they were hacked.

GUTFELD: All right. But I think this would be a perfect fact for a Trump ad, I mean, when the U.N. comes out against you, they don't do the same for genocidal maniacs and misogynist homophobic jihadist. So, you should consider it a feather in your cap when the U.N. -- it's like -- it's like the U.N. insulting you is like David Duke calling you a bigot. It actually works in your favor.

By the way, this complaining of the media, Donald Trump got $2 billion of free media in this election. He bragged about having never to get TV ads because he had us. He had cable news. Cable news took care of it and the media loves him. The media wants him to be president because it's good for their ratings.  I mean, it may not be great for the country but boy, you could make a lot of money off his unpredictability.

Lastly, the microphone thing is a bunch of baloney because he even said the first 30 minutes of the debate were the best 30 minutes and I agree. He was excellent when there was a malfunction. Maybe the malfunction should have been the entire debate. If the mic was bad, he could have won the debate.

BOLLING: You know, I was in that debate hall and it was...


BOLLING: Right, right, there is no question that it went out equally as the same volume to the TV public, but in there it was endless (ph) of what we can hear. Listen, it could be a bit -- throw you off your game a little bit.

GUTFELD: But that was the best part. That was when he's on his game.

BOLLING: It was really only about five or seven minutes. I think they...


BOLLING: All right, let's see this. As Juan mentioned, Trump fired off a lot of tweets this morning regarding his feud Miss Universe. He's gotten a lot of pushback. This afternoon, he put on another tweet to hit back. He says, "For those people knocking me for tweeting at three o'clock in the morning, at least you know I'll be there, awake, to answer the call" and that's a clever response referring to Clinton's missed the 3:00 a.m. call from Benghazi so, Juan.

WILLIAMS: Well, I don't know what to say, I mean it's like, wow! Do you think that the guy made a mistake by getting into this -- I think we've all said it -- I think even you, that he fell in into a trap, that she set him up, Hillary Clinton, when she had Miss Universe in the audience.

BOLLING: You know Lester Holt set him up.

WILLIAM: I don't think Lester Holt have anything...


BOLLING: ...just tell me what I said.

WILLIAMS: OK. I mean, I thought -- OK, but I mean we agree -- it looked like Hillary Clinton really like put a trap there and said go ahead and step right in the hole, Donald Trump. And he stepped in the hole, then afterwards even as people were debating how he had done during the debate, he went off on this riff about women who are really a difficult group for him as voters anyway and now he continues. I mean to me, I don't understand but it seems like he can't control. Doesn't he sleep, Eric? 3:00 in the morning.

GUILFOYLE: Hey, don't hate on people that don't sleep. I like it. It's like you have something to do.

BOLLING: Has anyone ever tweeted anything that they were happy about at
3:00 in the morning.


GUILFOYLE: Nothing really happen after midnight.

GUTFELD: It's like the Chris Rock line about, if you're going to the ATM at 1:00 a.m. it's for bad things. So there are no good tweets at -- but this goes back to the fact that we mentioned all of his enemies, the media, the U.N., USA Today and all this. His biggest enemy is himself. If he just gets out of the way of himself, you know, Hillary set this thing up. They have the ads ready.

They have the conference call. They knew through the psych (ph) ops that they had done that this was -- this is what was going to set him off, and he did. And it's like, I said it before, he has a weight problem. He just can't wait it out. If he just ignored this stuff, it would have been great.
But he can't -- Twitter is his safety zone and if you really like Trump, you shouldn't enable him. You know, as big his supporter is should be telling him, lay off.

PERINO: Well, they have for quite a while. I don't know maybe last night he was snuck in to wherever there were trying to (inaudible) his backup phone.


BOLLING: They really should make him put the phones and the laptops in a lock box -- in a box and lock it.

PERINO: I like that John Podesta, the Clinton campaign chairman, he said, I'm up enough -- they're the same age -- he said, I'm up enough that time of night but, as well...

BOLLING: For other reasons.

PERINO: But don't pick up the phone when you have to go.


GUILFOYLE: Maybe they ordered one of those Hillary Clinton special Blackberry he got one off of eBay. They were hiding it.

BOLLING: All right.


BOLLING: Very good, perhaps. All right, let's do this. Let's see if Trump is -- he still hasn't approached the podium. If he does...


BOLLING: We're going to bring you -- Rudy is still there. Well, look at that, Rudy really is...

GUTFELD: Rudy is pulling out some imaginary things.

BOLLING: We'll do this and hopefully we'll get back and Mr. Trump will be at the podium and we'll take a listen. Next, Hillary Clinton is actively trying to connect with millennial voters, will it work? And later, it's Facebook Friday. Post your questions for us now in and we'll be right back.


PERINO: The nation's largest generation, nearly 90 million, are now at voting age, but will they turn out on Election Day and for whom. There is concern particularly by Democrats about the millennial vote. Third party candidates, Johnson and Stein are losing ground with the youth as the election nears as you'll learn on the podcast where I have with Chris Stirewalt, to explain that whole thing. And the Clinton team enlisted help from Bernie Sanders this week and put out this new millennial family ad titled, "Squad Goals."



PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: I really, really, really want to elect Hillary Clinton.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're going to work out hearts out to make Hillary Clinton the next president of the United States.


FIRST LADY MICHELLE OBAMA: I cannot hear you, are you with me?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I see Americans of every party and every background and every faith, men and women, young and old, gay and straight, native-born and immigrant, that's who the hell we are.



PERINO: Another approach is an interview with R&B star Mary J. Blige.


MARY J. BLIGE, R&B STAR: Do you think it's hard for a woman to be both tough and likeable?

CLINTON: Yes, I think it's really hard. I think it's rooted in tens of thousands of years of how people's lives have been defined for women to be assuming, leading roles in business or entertainment or politics or whatever it might be. It still is not fully understood because there is no blueprint.


PERINO: All right, they just introduced Trump and so we'll going to get back to that in a second. Can I ask you quickly Juan, do you think one of the reasons Hillary is having hard on this millennials is that Bernie Sanders spoke so harshly about her for so many months and was so popular with them, that it's hard for them to turn around on that?

WILLIAMS: You know, I thought Bernie didn't speak harshly about it but it was that Bernie Sanders speaking to the issue that really burns these millennials, which is big business, Wall Street, Occupy Wall Street, that kind of theme. And he really pumped into that and into the depth of student debt. Those are issues that drive them. Hillary Clinton's been late to the game on it.

PERINO: Did you like that? See, I thought the ad sounded upbeat and kind of fun.

GUTFELD: I would love to be in the meeting where all the (inaudible) discuss how to make something look hip, quick text, blast graphics, you know, a good beat and in the middle you have BS, which is Bernie Sanders.
The key insult to pandering to young people is you have to expect them to be dumb. You're expecting them prefer hip celebrities over actual issues.
So that's why they look for celebrities. And squad goals, that sounds like a painful exercise.

PERINO: I didn't like that title. I don't really understand that. I think we're going to have Donald Trump in just a second, but Johnson and Stein, they're numbers had been good. They're dropping, but we do have Donald Trump now so we're going to save that for right after he speaks.


TRUMP: Thank you. It is so great to be back in Michigan.


A state I've come to know and love during this campaign. You know, we love Michigan and that was a great big fat beautiful victory, you know that, right?


And I've been talking about Michigan for a long time. We can't let them take your car industry out or your industry out of your state any longer, not going to happen.


I'm going to fight so hard for all of you and I'm going to bring back the jobs that have been stripped away from you and from our country.


In 39 days -- 39 days, can you imagine? It started off where we are a long ways away and some people didn't give us a good chance. They said Mr. Trump, the other day one of the biggest people in that business, the very dishonest press business.


They said Mr. Trump, when you started off, you have to tell me the truth, did you really think you'd be here? I said, what the hell do you think I am doing this for, right?


No, we expected to be here and we're all here together. It's a movement, and believe me, we're all here together, we're going to take our country back.


We're going to win the state of Michigan. We're going to win the White House and it is going to be an awfully good November 8th. That evening is going to be a celebration.


We're going to take on the special interests, the lobbyists and the powerful politicians that have stolen your jobs through theft and incompetence. They've stolen your wealth. They've taken your middle class.
We're going take on the arrogant, corrupt corporate media that have enabled the global theft of American prosperity. A theft that has left behind crumbling schools, roads, bridges, and a totally depleted military. We have the greatest people in the world and our military -- we're going to rebuild our military. This is what we needed.


It's time by the way, to rebuild Detroit. We're going to rebuild Detroit.


It's time to rebuild Michigan and we're not letting them take your jobs out of Michigan any longer. And it's time to rebuild the United States of America. We are going to do it. Our country is going to be greater than ever before. We're going to be the smart country again.


Hillary Clinton has made a living raking in donations from special interests that have raided our factories and ripped the jobs right out of Michigan and every other state. That's how she gets rich, by taking your jobs and your money away from you and away from your state.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE/FEMALE: Lock her up! Lock her up! Lock her up!

TRUMP: That's why Hillary Clinton, if she ever got the chance would 100 percent approved the Trans Pacific Partnership. The deal she lied about the other night when I said she called it the gold standard, she said no. Guess what, she called it the gold standard and Lester Holt did not correct her, I wonder why.


The Trans Pacific Partnership will economically devastate Michigan, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and so many other states all across this country. It will be devastating also for Ohio. Hillary Clinton's daughter wants the TPP and their wish will be her command, that's what it is. This special interest pay her for speeches, she's not a good speaker. Not a good speaker. But there are a lot of money. You know, we have thousands of people here today. There are thousands and thousands of people outside trying to get in. Thousands.


PERINO: We'll you've been listening to Donald Trump, and he's right. People stood in the rain for hours, thousands of them to get in there to see that rally. We're going to bring it back to "The Five" right after this break. This election has certainly been intense.

We can all use some laughs right around now and of course we start Kimberly Guilfoyle. I listened to that earlier, but next, we're going to have "Saturday Night Live" do the trick because tomorrow, and it returns for season 42. It's got a surprise new cast member playing Trump. We're going to tell you who next. And Facebook Friday still to come, don't go away.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Trump is the real life inspiration for Iron Man. Who am I? This is Joe Pepperoni. No, I'm not Donald Trump in disguise.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The New York City subway is the best way to get around, and also going fast (ph).  


GUILFOYLE: And now you're laughing. I love it. That's happened to me. "Saturday Night Live" knows how to lampoon presidential races and a lot of fans are anxiously awaiting the shows return tomorrow for season 42. The talents of Kate McKinnon will reprise her role as Hillary Clinton.

But Trump, guess what, he's not going to be played by Darrell Hammond anymore. That's cancelled. Ready for this? Alec Baldwin will sporting his best Trump impersonation this season. Greg, does this please you? I see a little cat like smile on your face.

GUTFELD: Well, I thought that Hammond was great as Trump and I think I am sure Alec Baldwin will be good but Trump is really his best impersonator because he's such an iconic figure that only he could be him. You don't need impersonators. But "SNL" will claim to hit both sides and show this. They'll go after Trump and they'll go after Hillary but the content is different.

Trump will be seen as some kind of evil diabolical clown and Hillary will be seen as some kind of benign robotic nerd who knows all the facts. So they say there'll be balance but you'll know who -- there's an agenda. This is an agenda driven show.

GUILFOYLE: There you go. Dana, what do you think?

PERINO: Well, Republicans never fare well in the general election on "Saturday Night Live." They just don't. Trump I agree -- he's funniest when he's being himself and he can be a little self-deprecating when he goes like on Fallon's show, it's like it's very funny. I do wonder who is going to play Alicia Machado. That's a skit that they didn't plan to have and it will be highly anticipated, and I think it's fraught with a lot of politically incorrectness.

GUILFOYLE: And is it going to make the situation better or worse?

PERINO: I don't know. I don't know.

GUILFOYLE: We don't know. Bolling, you've been waiting for the moment for them to do "The Five" on there.

PERINO: Oh my god. Don't ask for that. I would never ask for that.

BOLLING: Fallon, can Alec Baldwin do as good of a Trump as Fallon? I think he's probably the best out there. I don't know. Maybe he will.

But don't forget something else, though.  Trump goes on "SNL" a lot.  He's been host -- he's hosted that show quite a bit over the years, as well.  So maybe they won't.  Maybe they'll be fair.  Maybe they might just take equal shots at both of them.  

What was that?

PERINO:  My mic wire was showing.  I'm trying to get it...

GUILFOYLE:  A robot wire is becoming exposed.  This is a problem.

BOLLING:  Is someone talking in your ear, telling you what to say, Dana?

GUTFELD:  Were you making -- if you were making hand signals to Juan.  

PERINO:  They're like, "Tuck your mike in."  I'm like, "What?"  I'm like, "What?"  And that's what...

BOLLING:  I got you.

GUILFOYLE:  OK.  So Juan, what do you think?  Is this a good call?  I think Alec Baldwin, he has no problem kind of getting in people's faces and getting after.  I think it's going to be, like, a cathartic role for him.  

WILLIAMS:  So apparently, Tina Fey recommended Alec Baldwin for this role.  And I just don't see it, because I thought Daryl Hammond had the kind of face.  His face, and his gestures.

So I'm interested to see what comes of it.  

But I must say in terms of the criticism at this table, your favorite place for me.  You know what?  I think that they should be very direct and, I think, lambast Trump.  I think he, in some sense, opens himself to this at every turn.  

GUTFELD:  But OK, yes, easy fodder.  But Hillary is -- come on.  

PERINO:  Well, the other thing is Alec...

GUTFELD:  But no, that's a false equivalency, Greg.

PERINO:  The other thing is Alec...

WILLIAMS:  What's the equivalence between?  Like newspapers recently have been criticized, because they're now calling Trump outright "liar."  They say this, New York Times prints "liar," right?  Lie.  

GUTFELD:  Hillary doesn't lie, does she?

WILLIAMS:  No.  That's what I was getting to on the equivalency.  I think there are some people on the Republican side, who say, "Well, you know, they both have their problems."

GUTFELD:  Right.

WILLIAMS:  "You know, Hillary and her email, Juan," you know.  And think there is no equivalency.  When PolitiFact weighs their lies, it's like here is Trump and here is Hillary.  

PERINO:  I think that's true.  That you could actually make a pretty fun thing, have a James Comey character, like, talking about Hillary's lies on the FBI investigation, the emails.

GUTFELD:  But that would make everybody in the audience uncomfortable.  

PERINO:  Alec Baldwin knows what it's like to put out a tweet...

GUTFELD:  Yes, that's true.

PERINO:  ... that gets ridiculed, so in some way he might be a little bit more closer to it than Hammond.  

GUILFOYLE:  Guys, should -- is it a good idea, yes or no, for them to go back on as themselves -- have Hillary appear, have Trump -- before the election?  Yes or no?

GUTFELD:  Probably not.  Because how much time do you have left?

BOLLING:  Weeks.

GUILFOYLE:  They could get it done.

PERINO:  Thirty-nine days.  

GUILFOYLE:  I say yes.  

GUTFELD:  Great math.  

PERINO:  I'm not even counting.  

I would not do it if I were the Republicans.  I think Hillary Clinton would probably be fine, but I just feel like the conservative always ends up with the short end of the stick at this point in the election.  

GUILFOYLE:  But Trump did well.

GUTFELD:  Which conservative?

PERINO:  It's just too risky.  I think it's too risky.  

BOLLING:  I would say he should.  I'd say he should.  I think he can -- yes.  Remember when he did hotline bling.


BOLLING:  He did a nice job with that.  I'd like to see him, especially if they -- I assume Kate McKinnon won't be Hillary on the same show.  

PERINO:  Do you remember when he was mad at -- remember when he was -- well, the story goes that he was very frustrated when President Obama was making fun of him at the White House Correspondents Dinner.  And I just feel like, if Trump -- he needs to stay in the game in terms of focusing on Hillary.  Taking time off to prepare to be on "Saturday Night Life" and the risk of that when the election is this close, I just wouldn't take that risk if I were those guys.  

WILLIAMS:  You now that previous segment got cut short.  We are talking about millennials and her needing to do more with the millennials.  I don't think it's the case that he's going to do better with millennials.  The question is whether they get excited about that.

PERINO:  He can keep her numbers down.

WILLIAMS:  "Saturday Night Live" actually could help her.  

GUTFELD:  But Trump has a lot of millennials that were -- that probably don't watch "Saturday Night Live."  

PERINO:  Nobody watches TV anymore.  

GUTFELD:  Yes.  Don't say that, Dana.  This is our life.

GUILFOYLE:  I know, Dana.

GUTFELD:  I've got a mortgage.  

GUILFOYLE:  Geez, "The Five," we are recession-proof.  Stay right there, because "Facebook Friday," hard-hitting news segment, up next.  



GUILFOYLE:  My gosh.

GUTFELD:  Yes, "Facebook Friday," we answer your questions.  OK, Kimberly, you're up first.  This is from Sandra S. "What posters were on your wall when you were 12?"

GUILFOYLE:  Oh, 12 years old was probably -- I think I had one KISS poster.  

PERINO:  Wow, really?

GUILFOYLE:  Edgy.  I'm edgy.  You didn't know that.


GUILFOYLE:  And also I had, like, I know, like Shaun Cassidy.  Or...

GUTFELD:  Of course.

GUILFOYLE:  ... you know, you had to.

GUTFELD:  Who didn't?  I have three older sisters.  


GUTFELD:  They had every Cassidy.  

GUILFOYLE:  Who else did I like?  Oh, I liked Christian Slater.  

GUTFELD:  Well, there you go.  Poor man's Jack Nicholson.

Hey, Juan.

GUILFOYLE:  You know that he can sing Frank Sinatra.  He sang it to me one time.  

GUTFELD:  Good for you.

WILLIAMS:  In person?


WILLIAMS:  That's pretty amazing.  


WILLIAMS:  That's awesome.


WILLIAMS:  You know, I don't remember having posters.  Sometimes I would, like, cut silly things out of the paper.

GUTFELD:  Right.  

WILLIAMS:  Like I saw the other day somebody was celebrating Willie Mays's catch, you know, over his head in the polar grounds (ph).  And I think I had something like that, you know, stowed away on the side there for a while.  But I'm just not that interested.

GUTFELD:  You're not a poster guy.  

Did you have any pets?

WILLIAMS:  No.  I had a turtle at one point.  

GUTFELD:  You put that on your wall?

WILLIAMS:  No.  I was told later that they're very dangerous.  They have all kinds of diseases.  

GUILFOYLE:  Yes, they do, like box turtles get different things.  You have to be very careful.  

WILLIAMS:  There you go, see?  You should have been my mom.


GUILFOYLE:  And also, I should have been your mom?  What kind of psychological issues have you got going on there?  My goodness.

BOLLING:  Probably like most guys, 12 years old, "Charlie's Angels."  Farrah Fawcett, the Farrah Fawcett...


BOLLING:  ... iconic.

GUTFELD:  Right.  

PERINO:  Yes.  

GUILFOYLE:  I love "Charlie's Angels."  

BOLLING:  A funny story, though.  I brought it home, put it on my wall and my mom made me put it in the closet.  "You can have it on your wall, but it's got to go in the closet."

PERINO:  Sweet.

WILLIAMS:  Maybe you could be his mom.

GUTFELD:  What about you, Dana?

PERINO:  Well, I remember, at 12, this might have been a little bit -- I might have been a little bit younger, Shaun Cassidy.

GUTFELD:  Of course.

PERINO:  And Rick Springfield.  


PERINO:  But then I think around 12, do you remember Tiffany.


PERINO:  I had a poster of her.  

GUILFOYLE:  You're so funny.

PERINO:  Do you remember her?

GUILFOYLE:  Yes, totally.  We're the same, because I used to love Rick Springfield when he was on "General Hospital."  Also, we were both Bluebirds, Campfire Girls, which is also very unique.  We didn't go, like, the Girl Scout.  And also our debate teams stuff and speech.

WILLIAMS:  Can you bring me in the circle?  Who's Tiffany?

PERINO:  Tiffany?  I'll play it for you later on YouTube.  

GUTFELD:  She sang in malls.

GUILFOYLE:  "I Think We're Alone Now."

GUTFELD:  You know what I had when I was 12?  I had a poster of Bill O'Reilly, shirtless, when he was in Menudo.  He was only in there for about eight months.

GUILFOYLE:  Did he have a spray tan?

GUTFELD:  Yes, he had a spray tan.

BOLLING:  Was Geraldo in Menudo, too?

GUTFELD:  Yes, they were all in Menudo.  That's how we hired everybody, from Menudo.

GUILFOYLE:  No Geraldo -- Geraldo's still in it.

GUTFELD:  Hannity was in Menudo.

PERINO:  Oh, my God.  He could -- sing.

OK, this is it, we'll go this way.  This is from Brook G.: "If you could go anywhere in the world for a week, but you have to leave tonight, where would you go?"  Dana.

PERINO:  I would go to -- oh, what's it called -- Antiqua.  Because my friend, Ingrid, has a house there.  She's invited us a couple of times, and I've never been able to go.  And so I would go there for a week, and I would not take my phone.  

GUTFELD:  Wow.  That's cheap.

BOLLING:  I would go to Spain.  I was in Spain about 15 years ago.  Amazing country.  I actually adore Spain.  I haven't been back since, and I've been dying to get back.  

GUILFOYLE:  I've never been.  I want to go.  

BOLLING:  Madrid, Barcelona...

PERINO:  Valencia.

BOLLING:  I've never been there before.  

GUILFOYLE:  "The Five" road trip.

PERINO:  Me neither.  I'd like to go.

GUTFELD:  Never again.  

GUILFOYLE:  Oh, my God.

BOLLING:  I'll second that.


GUILFOYLE:  You were, like, bathing in vin (ph).

WILLIAMS:  You know, I just love the beach, so I'd just go to the beach.  
I'd go to Jamaica and go to the beach.  


WILLIAMS:  But on the other hand...

GUILFOYLE:  You like Red Stripe?  

WILLIAMS:  No, not particularly.  

GUILFOYLE:  Anything else, sir?

WILLIAMS:  But -- but I think, you know, I was thinking the other day I'd like to go hang out in Tokyo again.  Because I was having a party; it's party time.

So the other day somebody was saying to me there's a place over here that's just a door and a stairway.  And they said if you go there, actually, it's a bunch of Japanese businesses partying hard.

GUILFOYLE:  Deja vu?

WILLIAMS:  And I was like -- I've never been in there.  But that's the way it is in Tokyo, you can go in a black door in an alley, and it's like whammo.  

PERINO:  Juan, you're not supposed to go down there.  

GUILFOYLE:  No.  That's called Lace.  

WILLIAMS:  Oh my God.  

GUTFELD:  K.G., if you could go anywhere in the world?

GUILFOYLE:  OK, where would I go?  OK, here's the problem.  Zika got me down.  

That's the problem.  Zika got me down.  I got the Zika blues.  Yes, it's a condition.  

GUTFELD:  Yes, I know.  No, no.

GUILFOYLE:  Health insurance covers it.  Well, I don't actually have Zika.

PERINO:  Go to California.  

GUILFOYLE:  I'm just worried about it.  

GUTFELD:  It's actually -- it is a worry where there are mosquitos.  So you should be worried.  You should make sure that you wear long sleeves wherever you go.  

You know where I would go?  And I said this before last time.  I would go to my laundromat and stay there the week.  I want to see if they're actually cleaning my shirts.  Because I -- I think they're just ironing them.

PERINO:  You really know how to show your wife a good time.  

GUTFELD:  Well, you know what?  This is me.  They didn't say me and the wife.

GUILFOYLE:  You know that's a little OCD, right?

GUTFELD:  They said me.  

GUILFOYLE:  That's a little weird.

GUTFELD:  All right.  Brenda -- ooh, this is my favorite question.  We start with you, Eric.  Brenda P.: "What are your workout routines?  Gym?  Home gym?  Job in the park?"

GUILFOYLE:  Kim Kam (ph) Laundry, can't you tell?

BOLLING:  It's -- I run a lot.  I just run a super lot.  I run Saturday and Sunday.  I try and run two days during the week in the morning.  I try and get five miles each time.  I haven't really hit the gym very much, but I've lost 15 or 16 pounds.  

GUILFOYLE:  I know, but you don't eat.  You're manorexic.  

BOLLING:  A little bit.  A little bit.

GUTFELD:  You don't eat.

GUILFOYLE:  You are, for real life.

BOLLING:  I feel good, though.  Feel good.

GUTFELD:  What about you, Kimberly?  What do you do?  Any exercise?  You kickbox, don't you?

GUILFOYLE:  Yes.  I kickbox and then I had that unfortunate leg situation.

GUTFELD:  Right.

GUILFOYLE:  Remember that one?

PERINO:  I'm not laughing about it, but...

GUILFOYLE:  Remember my ruined vacation?  I've seen pictures of my leg, and I had my legs up.  They were like -- I won't do that again.  

GUTFELD:  At least you're not -- at least you're not into any kind of combat exercises where someone fights you.  


WILLIAMS:  Does that happen?

GUTFELD:  I've heard it happens.

GUILFOYLE:  That happens here.


GUTFELD:  Not -- not that I'm aware of.  It was a dream, Juan.

WILLIAMS:  Is that right?  Is that right?  

BOLLING:  Exercise.  

GUILFOYLE:  This move like this, and then toss to the ground.  And then, "Ah, ah."  Just "Ah, ah, ah."


WILLIAMS:  We had a reenactment.

GUTFELD:  Come on, gym routine.  

WILLIAMS:  Oh, I go to the gym all the time.


WILLIAMS:  But I like to do different things.  And lately, I've been doing more and more with weights.  And I typically do not...

GUILFOYLE:  You have a trainer, too, I heard.  

WILLIAMS:  I do occasionally use a trainer, because I like to box a little bit.  So yes.  

GUTFELD:  How about you, Dana?

PERINO:  Well, I am trying to think of something, like I surf on whatchamacallit.  Something funny.

GUTFELD:   Surf on a potato chip or whatever.

PERINO:  Yes, something like that.  But I have a personal trainer named Katie.

GUTFELD:  Wow, everybody.

PERINO:  And then I have a Pilates instructor named Kate.  

BOLLING:  Didn't you meet my brother-in-law at Pilates?  

GUILFOYLE:  I used to have a trainer.  

PERINO:  We were at there around the same time.  That's right.

GUTFELD:  "Pilates" sounds like some kind of illness you get as a kid.  

PERINO:  Really, it's, like, really good for your spine.  

GUTFELD:  Yes, I had Pilates, I couldn't leave the bed.

You know what I do?  I do resistance.  I call it body resistance training, where you find a partner, instead of using weights, and you just press against each other, usually in the park.  

GUILFOYLE:  Oh, you and Lou.

GUTFELD:  At 1 or 2 in the morning.  Bryant Park.  Just a lot of pressing.  
I like to do it early nights or early work out routines with strangers.  

GUILFOYLE:  I thought it was Dobbs.  

GUTFELD:  Dobbs.

GUILFOYLE:  He's in great shape.

GUTFELD:  Ahead, Juan's got some news on his favorite football team.  The Washington -- what are they?


GUTFELD:  What are they?  

WILLIAMS:  I'm not -- I can't.  I can't.

GUTFELD:  They have a development that could settle the never-ending -- tease.

GUILFOYLE:  You're on the -- you're on the screen with that.  


WILLIAMS:  Oh, you guys know it, I'm a big fan of the Washington football team.  But what I'm not a fan of is its official name.  It begins with an "R," you know, Redskins.

PERINO:  Whoa!


WILLIAMS:  Hey, hey, hey.  But I don't like saying it.  I don't like -- you can say it.  You can say anything you like.  I don't like saying it, because it's a slur, in the dictionary defined as a slur against Native Americans.  So I'd like to see it changed.  I know some others who don't agree -- Mr. Bolling -- but soon, the Supreme Court will settle the issue.  

The Supreme Court has agreed to hear a case that will decide whether the government can deny a trademark because it's deemed the name involved to be offensive.  It's a case involving an Asian-American rock group called -- and I'm not even comfortable with this one but I'll say it, because you need to know -- The Slants.  

So Greg, what do you think?

GUTFELD:  You know, look, right or wrong, it's a measure of the true leisure class that we can spend years talk -- quarreling over words.  In other parts of the world, there are people that are terrified because their country's being destroyed, that there are bombs falling on them, not band names.  They're not concerned about band names.  They're concerned about bombs.  

So I don't know.  

WILLIAMS:  So Dana...

GUTFELD:  We're lucky to have these problems is what I'm saying.  

WILLIAMS:  I hear you.  But I'm saying, Dana, 1946 law says that the U.S.
Patent Commission can reject names that disparage people, living or dead.  Now, that's -- the counterargument is First Amendment says government should not penalize private speech.  

PERINO:  One of the reason I pitched this this morning I do think -- I like to think about issues like this.  I don't necessarily know how this will turn out at the Supreme Court.  

I do note that in The Washington Post poll that they released in May, nine out of ten Native Americans said they are not offended by the Redskins name.  And so at what point does the court overstep the opinion of the people and those First Amendment rights?  It's an interesting legal case.  

GUILFOYLE:  So Eric, the Justice Department has said a trademark is a government benefit, not a limit on private speech.  

BOLLING:  All right.  The other camp that says they'd like the free market to dictate whether or not the Redskins decide to be called the Redskins or they change their name because they find it offensive -- some people find it offensive.  And they'll stop watching the games, going to the games, buying the jerseys.  

That's the best measure, rather than the Supreme Court telling people what they should or shouldn't be calling themselves.  

WILLIAMS:  So Kimberly...


WILLIAMS:  ... let me just make -- mention another case.  Which is the state of Texas issues license plates for special groups when the sons of the confederate veterans asked for a license plate with the Confederate flag, Texas said no and the Supreme Court upheld Texas' refusal.  

GUILFOYLE:  All right.  OK, so there's precedent there that they can try and hang their hat on, Texas style.  

But in this case, the band are members of the community that the government is trying to protect; and they are seeking themselves to be able to have this name for their band.  So it's a little bit, you know, different in some aspects of it, I think.  

And then also I think that you just have to be able to say what about the comparison to rap music?  What about using offensive language...

WILLIAMS:  I agree with you.

GUILFOYLE:  ... if you have African-Americans doing rap and saying -- and using the bad words and then to this?  Why can't these people call themselves, you know, whatever name they want?

PERINO:  Right.  

WILLIAMS:  But wait a second.  These aren't -- these aren't...

GUILFOYLE:  What's the difference?

WILLIAMS;  This is not a football team made up of Native Americans.  


PERINO:  That's true.  

WILLIAMS:  "One More Thing" up next.

GUTFELD:  About the...

GUILFOYLE:  I'm talking...


BOLLING:  "One More Thing" -- Greg.  

GUTFELD:  All right.  "The Greg Gutfeld Show," tomorrow 10 p.m., we've got Tyrus the great wrestler.  We've got Alan Dershowitz.  We've got Colonel Alan West.  Oh, man.  

PERINO:  Way to go.

GUTFELD:  Kat Timp (ph), as well.  That's tomorrow at 10 p.m.  

And now this.  


GUTFELD:  Greg's Sports Corner


GUTFELD:  All right.  We're going to the cat in the bag Olympics.  We've got Furry McPawson.  Come on.  Furry McPawson versus Catnip Johnson.  Catnip Johnson's in the bag, and Furry thinks that, well, she's going to get past Catnip Johnson.  But no.  Wait until you see what happens.  




GUILFOYLE:  Oh, my gosh.  


GUILFOYLE:  What amazing, like, agility.  

BOLLING:  Don't even think about it.  


GUILFOYLE:  That was -- my gosh.  I love those catlike reflexes.  

GUTFELD:  They are literally catlike.  

BOLLING:  Let's move on.  All right.  Check out 8 p.m. tonight I'll be hosting "O'Reilly."  Mark Cuban -- I taped this earlier -- Mark Cuba came on.  I wanted to ask him about his reaction to Hillary Clinton using his name out on the campaign trail in the aftermath of the debate.  

I also asked him why he -- he actually called Donald Trump at one point the best candidate in American politics ever, and now he can't stand him.  So asked him what happened there.  

PERINO:  Yes, what happened?

BOLLING:  And then this one.  NBA, Juan, as you know, starts pretty soon.  Right?  So if his Dallas Mavericks take a knee during the national anthem, what's he going to do?  He's going to respond to all that.  

Also, don't forget the new Fox News polls are out in just a couple of minutes, so we're going to discuss that, as well.  

Who's next?  K.G., you're up.  

GUILFOYLE:  All right.  OK.  So time for...


GUILFOYLE:  Kimberly's Royal News.  


GUILFOYLE:  Your favorite segment, Greg.  

GUTFELD:  It is.

GUILFOYLE:  Everybody, Greg especially, royal cuteness alert here.  Because Prince George and Princess Charlotte were delighted by balloons, bubbles and mini horses that Greg could even ride at British Columbia's government house garden party yesterday in Victoria, Canada.  

PERINO:  Cute.

GUILFOYLE:  How cute is this?  So people are loving this online.  

GUTFELD:  What's he doing to the tree?

GUILFOYLE:  And they joined -- stop.  They joined 24 other children of Canadian military families to celebrate and enjoy the afternoon.  And the duke and duchess of Cambridge are on a week-long tour of Canada.  

BOLLING:  All righty.  

GUILFOYLE:  And on "Hannity" tonight.  

BOLLING:  Dana is up right now.

PERINO:  OK.  So we do this podcast.  It's called "Perino and Stirewalt."  I'll tell you what, we record them on Wednesday.  So there's a new one, if you haven't listened to it yet.  Here's a little listen from yesterday.  


PERINO:  Did Hillary Clinton shore up wobbly Democrats?

CHRIS STIREWALT, CO-HOST, "PERINO & STIREWALT":  Yes.  She shored up voters across the spectrum, because she was confident; she had energy.  She showed, as Trump would say, stamina.  She showed that she was a presence.  
And she was...

PERINO:  She was having fun at one point when she did that little dance.  

STIREWALT:  Shimmy was not good.  Don't shimmy.

PERINO:  No.  Inside shimmy only.  

STIREWALT:  Yes, exactly.  Shimmy...

PERINO:  Never, ever let them see you shimmy.  


GUILFOYLE:  I shimmy.  

PERINO:  You can shimmy.  Maybe not shimmy on the debate stage.  

So we have our Sunday show at 5 p.m. this weekend.  So I hope you'll join us.  We have a great panel, too.

BOLLING:  All right.  Juan, you're up.  

WILLIAMS:  Well, you know, boys will be boys, and a big bet -- big bet -- at the Ryder Cup practice.  A hundred bucks on the line after a fan heckled Rory McIlroy for consistently missing a putt.  The European team then invited the fan, a guy from North Dakota, an insurance salesman, to see if he could sink the putt, and they put 100 bucks on the ground and said, "You've got it if you can do it."  Look at this.  

PERINO:  No way.  




WILLIAMS:  Yes, baby.  Yes, baby.  Now, that is sweet.  I mean, how can you not celebrate for this guy?  I mean, yes, baby.  Go for it.

PERINO:  That's so great for North Dakota.  

GUILFOYLE:  What a boss move.  I love it.  

BOLLING:  So the moral of the story is heckle professional golfers.  You might win 100 bucks.

All right.  We've got to leave it there.  That's it for us.  Have a great weekend, everyone.  "Special Report" coming up right now.

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