Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson makes his pitch to voters

Third party candidate goes on 'Sunday Morning Futures' to discuss his platform


This is a rush transcript from "Sunday Morning Futures," September 4, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GREGG JARRETT, GUEST HOST: We begin with the Fox News Alert. Millions of people along the Eastern Seaboard, especially in coastal areas, are bracing for Hermine. As of now, it's mostly offshore but Hermine may gain strength, possibly producing hurricane-force winds on Monday and Tuesday. Several governor's taking precautions now and announcing emergency preparations.

We're going to have full team coverage of Hermine. Kristin Fisher in Ocean City, Maryland, but let's begin with Maria Molina in Atlantic City.


MARIA MOLINA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Greg. Good to see you and hello, everyone, at home.

That's right, a state of emergency has been declared across three counties in southern New Jersey, including Ocean, Cape May and right here in Atlantic.

We do have a high tide coming in. So, we have been observing the water level is coming up. And while the storm is still well offshore, about 300 miles to the east southeast of Ocean City in Maryland, we're already seeing some of the impacts here in Atlantic City. You can see the surf, very dangerous right now. We have rip currents also ongoing and beach erosion will continue to be a concern.

And the big problem with the storm is that it's also forecasted to slow down. It's going to take a turn towards the north track very closely to the coast. And because it has such an expansive wind field, with tropical storm force winds, extending more than 200 miles from the center of the storm, we will be feeling those impacts for several days. So, again, beach erosion will be a big problem, not only through Labor Day, but even possibly by mid-week.

The storm is forecast to continue tracking northward, impacting even portions of New England, tropical storm watches and warnings are in effect along many coastal areas, anywhere from Maryland, even in North Carolina, extending up into portions of New England.

A big concern with the storms is that it attracts closer to the coast. We will be seeing those tropical storm force winds, potentially even hurricane-force wind gusts like you mentioned and coastal flooding, a big threat of along many coastal communities especially during high tide.

The worst of the storm here in Atlantic City forecast to hit as we head into late tonight and also into tomorrow, many of the companies out here already feeling the impacts. We do know that attendance is much lower Labor Day weekend and many people haven't come out because of the storm and several concerts also cancelled already because of the storm -- Gregg.

JARRETT: Maria Molina in Atlantic City -- Maria, thanks.

Let's turn now to Kristin Fisher who is in Ocean City, Maryland.

You know, Kristin, the summertime population there really swells but, wow, I wonder how many of them are trying to get out before this thing really hits hard.

KRISTIN FISHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, you know right now Greg we're seeing some really big waves, eight to ten feet, right off the beach in Ocean City and very strong rip currents, very dangerous swimming conditions for swimmers and surfers which is why everyone is being told that they have to stay out of the water

Right now, Hermine is about 300 miles off the coast from here, heading east northeast at about 12 miles per hour. So, the big threat here is not rain or wind. The big thing that people are worried about is flooding, storm surge, and then again these rough conditions at the beach.

Now, if it floods, it will likely happen later tonight at high tide or perhaps high tide early tomorrow morning and it really does flood here. But, you know, the biggest impact in Ocean City may end up being an economic one. This is the boardwalk in Ocean City and on a Labor Day weekend, big holiday weekend at the end of the summer, typically, it would be absolutely packed with people and people are certainly out and enjoying themselves, but nowhere near the kind of crowds that you would expect to see on Labor Day weekend.

I was talking to the woman at the front desk that works it the hotel that we're staying at and she was not happy. She called the storm a wash. She said she was not thrilled about the lack of business and we're hearing that for business owners up and down the boardwalk. So, a lot of locals aren't thrilled about the loss of business but what can you do when you have a storm this big that could have gone really either way.

And again, we are still under a tropical storm warning. We're still under a state of emergency here in the state of Maryland. The National Guard has been deployed here as a precautionary measure in case of floods which again could happen later tonight tomorrow morning.

But for the local businesses, they wanted to see a lot more people here this weekend. The good news for the locals they're not likely going to get the kind of damage the worst kind of damage that could have happened and if they do come out to the beach, you've got a pretty nice empty beach all to yourself.


FISHER: Beautiful sunshine at the moment -- Gregg.

JARRETT: Not much consolation for business owners. You know, their economy is so relying on the summertime income and, boy, when every Labor Day --

FISHER: Right.

JARRETT: -- comes, I know they just hate to see that.

Kristin Fisher in Ocean City, Maryland -- Kristin, thanks.

Donald Trump courting minority voters and preaching a message of unity during his weekend visit to Detroit. In the meantime, Trump's Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton dealing with the growing fallout stemming from the FBI's release of new documents summarizing her interview about her personal email server.

Brian Llenas joins now from our New York City newsroom with all of this.

Brian, let's begin with Trump. How did his visit to this African-American church in Detroit go?

BRIAN LLENAS, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, from the Trump campaign's perspective, it appears it was a success in their eyes. Donald Trump laid out what he calls a new civil rights agenda speaking in front of a black congregation at the Great Faith Ministries in Detroit yesterday.

Trump swayed to worship music and read scripture inside, and he spoke from handwritten prepared remarks about how he's going to deliver jobs in safer neighborhoods, all while delivering a message of unity.


DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: We're all created by the same God. We must love each other and support each other, and we are in this all together, all together. I fully understand that the African-American community has suffered from discrimination and that there are many wrongs that must still be made right.


LLENAS: While he was welcomed inside, outside, there were vocal protesters who shouted "Go home Trump."

Trump also visited the southwest Detroit home of Ben Carson who is now an advisor for the campaign. Dr. Carson spoke about how Trump offers an alternative to the black community which leans heavily Democratic on "Fox News Sunday."


DR. BEN CARSON, TRUMP ADVISER: This is a subject about which he cares deeply and what is going to be accomplished is something that many in a Democrat Party fear and that is an alternative -- an alternative to, you know, promises that are not kept.


LLENAS: Gregg, we'll see how that message resonates with the community.

JARRETT: All right. Let's turn to Hillary Clinton now.

Are we expecting some kind of a response on these newly released FBI notes of her interview with FBI agents anytime soon?

LLENAS: Perhaps. Tomorrow, Hillary Clinton will begin traveling on a larger plane, that for the first time will allow the press corps to travel on board with her for the remainder of the campaign. It's a welcome opportunity for reporters to ask questions about these FBI notes that had just striking revelations, particularly that she said roughly three dozen times she could not recall key specific details about emails, including receiving training on how to handle confidential information.

It's been 274 days and she held a press conference -- Gregg.

JARRETT: Yes, it looks like 40 times she said I do not recall. We're going to be talking with Susan Ferrechio and our panel about that later this hour.

Brian Llenas -- Brian, thanks.

LLENAS: No problem.

JARRETT: Forty world leaders meeting in Hangzhou, China, today for the G20 Summit, reaffirming their dedication to global growth.

President Obama is seeking to smooth diplomatic relations while he's there. He's holding a bilateral meeting with the Turkish President Erdogan in the wake of July's failed coup attempt. This marks the final G20 Summit for President Obama, where climate change and Brexit ranked high on the agenda.

Also, Hillary Clinton in full damage-control mode over the latest revelations from the FBI and her email scandal. Will her actions derail her march to the White House?

Stick around. Stay with us. As we look ahead on "Sunday Morning Futures"


JARRETT: Welcome back to "Sunday Morning Futures." I'm Gregg Jarrett, in for Maria Bartiromo.

Hillary Clinton and her campaign now on the defensive as her opponent's step up attacks over the completed FBI investigation of her email practices. This after the agency last week released more documents, including notes from their interview with Mrs. Clinton in early July.

Susan Ferrechio joins us. She is the chief congressional correspondent for The Washington Examiner.

Susan, great to see you.


JARRETT: What is striking when you read these 60-some-odd pages is that Hillary Clinton cannot remember key facts or important events? In fact, I picked out just a few. We'll put them up on the screen. She could not recall getting security clearance, receiving classified training, using her power to classify who had access to her emails. That's pretty important. Receiving emails that should not be on an unclassified system, security briefings when leaving office.

Forty times, Susan, she said I don't recall which is the Sergeant Schultz defense from "Hogan's Heroes" -- I know nothing, I see nothing, I hear nothing. In her case, I remember nothing.

How damaging is this?

FERRECHIO: Right. I think this is a problem for her going forward because the central theme of her campaign is that she is the most ready and the most competent to become the next president. And so, looking through these FBI notes that were revealed, you're seeing a pattern here where she can't remember very key details here.

This isn't, you know, what did you have for lunch on this date. This stuff, you know, this is about the classification system. This is about her training. This is about her use of electronic devices -- all these things that, you know, many other people might be able to remember and she's saying she can remember.


FERRECHI: You know, is this because it's a safer?

JARRETT: You know, what struck me is that she is confronted by the FBI agents with these emails that show proposed military drone strikes on enemies. And she says, I can't remember these and then in the same breath, she says, and I didn't realize that was classified.

Does that call into question her confidence, not just her judgment, but put another way ranked incompetence?

FERRECHIO: Well, that's where she's leading Trump really are when it's about -- trust, the two of them are not trusted. They're about equal in the polls. But it's the competency where she gets ahead of Trump and now, we're looking through these notes, you see she's saying -- she's claiming ignorance or she's saying she didn't know. And it also captures what she said at the outset in March of 2015, when she was very adamant that she understood the classification system and that she never sent classified emails.


FERRECHIO: All of this is a big conflict. So, it either looks like she's not telling the truth. She's being disingenuous or she really didn't understand what she was doing.

And also, Gregg, that overshadows what she should be doing right now, which is talking about her record as the nation's top diplomat, her time in the White House. She can't talk about any of that because it's all completely overshadowed by this email situation and the drip, drip from the FBI -- none of it makes her look good and in particular, it makes her look incompetent.

JARRETT: Well -- and it's not just that you can't remember anything, but she seems oblivious to the basic duties of her office, uninformed about vital matters.

Let me put up another set of a bullet points here of things we learned. She could not -- she was not aware of hardware or software systems which, by the way, she is using on an hourly basis, not aware of security concerns with a private email system, could not give examples of how to classify a document or recognize this classification.

She did not realize as we pointed out drone strikes were classified, didn't think about whether military documents should be classified.

My goodness. An eighth grade civics student would probably know, you know, military documents probably should be kept secret.

FERRECHIO: Right. It undercuts her whole argument for why she's the better candidate than Donald Trump.

And, you know, the Republicans have smartly been going on the attack on this very front and, of course, we're probably going to hear a lot more about this during the upcoming debates.

And interestingly, we've seen the polls tightened. We've seen Trump even a point or two ahead in some national polls. But this is all going to come down to these undecided voters who are -- who are in some cases growing and some of the polls, you know, who do they think can handle the job? That is really what get it gets down to when people vote, who do they feel more comfortable with.

JARRETT: You can just hear trumping Republicans saying, you know, look she's America's top diplomat. She has access to the most closely guarded secrets and yet, she seems entirely cavalier if not unknowing. She hasn't held a news conference in 274 days.

Is she hiding because she doesn't have any good answers to what will invariably be tough questions?

FERRECHIO: Well, as long as she's leading in polls, it's called a comfortable place for her to be to just not face the press. If you see her start to tank in the polls and she needs to get out there and defend herself, I think she's going to hold a press conference.

I mean, don't forget, Gregg, going back to these emails, 30 of the emails I think that she purged, you know, where she said it was all about yoga and wedding planning, 30 of those emails were about the Benghazi terrorist attacks which were under to federal investigations at the time.


FERRECHIO: You know, there's so much that Republicans can drive home and continue to drive home about this issue that will really challenged her competency, and what it does is it prevents her from talking about her record in the State Department. And I think that's probably --


JARRETT: Yes, we're going to have unless you know that 2:00 a.m. phone call or 3:00 a.m.


JARRETT: Susan Ferrechio, thanks very much.

FERRECHIO: Thanks a lot.

JARRETT: Donald Trump doubling down on his hard-line immigration plan, promising to build that wall -- you know, the beautiful wall. We'll hear from an Arizona sheriff on what he thinks it will really take to secure the border, as we look ahead on "Sunday Morning Futures." Stick around.


JARRETT: Welcome back.

Donald Trump reiterating his hard-line position on illegal immigration this week after being accused of softening his tone. The Republican nominee holding a big speech in Phoenix, where he vowed to build a wall and create a deportation task force.


TRUMP: We will break the cycle of amnesty and illegal immigration. We will break the cycle. There will be no amnesty.

People will know that you can't just smuggle in, hunker down and wait to be legalized. Not going to work that way. Those days are over.


JARRETT: Earlier this week, Maria spoke to a Phoenix sheriff about the situation at the border and Mr. Trump's plan.


MARIA BARTIROMO, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Sheriff, good to see you. Thanks so much for joining us.

SHERIFF PAUL BABEU, PINAL COUNTY, ARIZONA: Great to see you. Thanks for having me on.

BARTIROMO: So, how would you characterize the border situation right now?

BABEU: Well, certainly, it's unsecured being here in Arizona on the border we've had 80,000 to 120,000 illegals apprehended each year of the past three years, just here in this one part of Arizona. In law enforcement, we call that a clue. The border is not secured, clearly.

BARTIROMO: It's not secure and you're on the front lines.


BARTIROMO: So, we really want to know from you what you're seeing and what you would propose. What is the solution here, sir?

BABEU: So, certainly, besides being a sheriff, I'm a retired Army officer. I commanded soldiers in Yuma, Arizona, and that portion of the border secured. How we did it is there's a double barrier, there's a 14-foot corrugated steel, no climb fence and we don't need that across the entire border as Donald Trump has said.

We need it in certain portions of the border, in high-traffic areas, proven smuggling corridors, and that's where we secure our border -- not just because of illegal immigration or the drug cartels that were fighting, but what about ISIS? What about the terrorist threat? Because if our borders at porous for basic illegals to come across, stands to reason that people who have bad intentions for America can slip across this border.

So, this is a national security issue. So, Donald Trump's making it a top priority.

BARTIROMO: Yes, it sure is, but do you think the clarity that he has now given will sort of quiet the base and help boost the base in terms of getting behind these plans for immigration?

BABEU: I believe so and the reason being is first, we all Americans should agree we need to secure our sovereign border and, well, I think even more important than a wall or barriers is I'm wearing a law enforcement uniform. The laws apply to you and I as American citizens, they should apply when it comes to illegal immigration. And that's what we want, we want to enforce the laws and that's what Donald Trump would do and then pivoting to, OK, well what do we do with those illegal immigrants who are here?

And his priority is very clear: focus on the criminal, the violent criminal illegals, which is a small minority of that large group and get them out of this country never to return again. That's where all of us should agree.

And quite the contrary, President Obama with the support of Hillary Clinton has released 84,000 of these criminals, violent offenders, many of them, into our communities in the past three years alone.

BARTIROMO: Yes, and this is the really important distinction that that Donald Trump is trying to clarify right now.


BARTIROMO: So, over the last year, we've all realized that getting rid of, or sending 11 million people back outside the country, is not doable and is not realistic.

BABEU: It is not, and the fact what's great and beautiful about America is the strength of our country is our immigration. Every year, we allow 1 million legal immigrants. And so, Donald Trump wants to get anybody who wants to be a citizen do it the right way legally, follow the process.

We're more generous than any other nation in the world, when it comes to immigration as long as you follow the law, and that's what we want here, to identify and we should have a right to determine who can into our country and legally.

BARTIROMO: Yes, I know I think that this is all a very important points but you know the devil is in the details, right? So, how do you make sure to vet the people and understand who it is, who's the bad guys, if you will, and who are actually trying to create havoc in the U.S., and separate those from people who are working here trying to get ahead and regardless living here illegally?

BABEU: Well, that's the whole point. And you're looking at refugees, asylum seekers from countries far across the world that are coming in here and we've had leaders in the CIA, the FBI, our military leaders have said very clearly that ISIS and other terrorist you mean harm for America would use this process to exploit the vulnerabilities in our own system in the United States, because we love and defend freedom and we are compassionate and we do allow these people to come here.

But we have to be certain in this in this very dangerous time we live in that they aren't the bad actors, that they truly are the people that we can allow into our country.

BARTIROMO: Yes. You know, were you surprised that that Trump went to Mexico to meet with the Mexican president? I mean, so much talked about that before he actually left because we know what Donald Trump said about Mexicans at the beginning of his campaign, and we know that even right now, the former president is saying, look, he wasn't welcome here, I don't even know why you came?

What's your take on this?

BABEU: I think it's fitting, it's appropriate. Look, Mexico is not our enemy here.


BABEU: Mexico is our neighbor, certainly Arizona's number one trading partner, America's top three and we have an interest in their success. We want to find ways not only to secure our border, to respect the sovereignty of each nation and our laws. We want them to succeed economically. So, whatever, we can do and I think Donald Trump sincere is to help Pena and the leaders of Mexico defeat the cartels that have -- that have created this instability in their country for 450,000 plus of their own citizens have been killed in this past decade.

That thwarts economic development and job creation that, which has really shifted a lot of and created this dire situation for Mexican nationals and Central Americans to come here. So, if we can solve those core problems, you have a partner in Donald Trump who's such a successful businessman and who wants success for Mexico -- hey, it bleeds over and their success for us so we want sovereign borders and I think that this meeting was very helpful.

BARTIROMO: Sure, you make a lot of the point, Sheriff. Thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate.

BABEU: Thank you so much. You bet.

BARTIROMO: We'll see you soon.


JARRETT: Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump preparing for their upcoming debates. But does a third-party candidate have a shot at making it to the stage? As we look ahead on "Sunday Morning Futures."


JARRETT: Moderators for the upcoming presidential debates are now set and the Democratic and Republican nominees both said to be preparing diligently for the face-offs.

But Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson is still hoping to get on that stage. The latest FOX News poll shows Johnson 9 percent, well behind Clinton and Trump and below the fifteen percent threshold needed to participate in the debate.

Maria Bartiromo talk to the former New Mexico governor about his strategy and what he hopes can change going forward.


BARTIROMO: Governor, good to see. Thanks so much for joining us.


BARTIROMO: So, I'm looking at a quote that you, you said recently it is game over on winning the White House if you do not make it to the debate stage. How are you going to get there?

JOHNSON: Well, all of our analytics are pointing upward, getting to that first debate really crucial Maria is just getting included in the top line Johnson/Trump/Clinton. It's not the top line and then 99 percent of the media just reports the top line. So, it's a hard threshold to meet. We're giving ourselves a better than fifty percent chance of actually getting there.

And if it isn't the first debate, the clock will keep ticking. So, you could potentially make the second or third debate, we're still -- we're still believing that we can run the table on this whole thing.

BARTIROMO: Wow. All right. So, we know that most Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton have very high negatives and some people are saying they're going to vote for one because they don't like the other.

So, make the case to the American people right now, why should they say -- forget both choices and go with Gary Johnson?

JOHNSON: Well, Maria, seventy percent of Americans don't know who we are even and then when presented with the fact that there is a third choice to former Republican governors serving in heavily Democrat States getting reelected. You don't really have to guess about outcomes. We've been there. We've done that.

I don't think anyone can argue that we changed our states for the better. We're both fiscally conservative. We're socially inclusive.

We really have skepticism when it comes to our military interventions that have led to a less safe world, not a more safe world and I'm talking about military interventions when it comes to regime change and then free trade - - that we really do believe in free trade, bringing the world together with free trade and diplomacy. So, there's the elevator pitch right there. That was pretty good, I think.

BARTIROMO: Well, I mean, let's talk about both of those issues. I mean, look, national security and the economy, the two big issues for the American people right now, you're talking about military intervention. What does that mean on a practical level in terms of how you would approach our foreign policy? Would you be cutting military spending? Would you be pulling back even a time that things feel a lot more dangerous than they ever have?

JOHNSON: Maria, I think what's really significant is that there was a poll three weeks ago, by active military personnel on whom they favored to be president the United States, and I actually won that pole.

So, I'd like to think it's based on what I am saying, which is to have an invincible national defense involving Congress in going forward, but when we get involved in regime change and by the way, ISIS, it is a threat and we will see that -- we will see those sands move through the hourglass. But there will be a void just like with al Qaeda, we didn't hear about ISIS until two years ago. When the void gets created taking out ISIS, there's - - it's going to get filled by other terrorists that are going to call themselves something else.


JOHNSON: So, we need to regionally contain this. And looking to the future, I think that the real threats, immediate threat, Syria, let's end that civil war but we're going to have to do that diplomatically with Russia. And North Korea, we're going to have to deal with that diplomatically, and it's going to have to involve China.

BARTIROMO: So, just to be clear, you will pull back and you will look for help from China. Is that what you're saying?

JOHNSON: Well, in the case of North Korea, and looking at balancing the federal budget, I really do believe that we need to balance the federal budget, and we're talking that why balance the federal budget? Well, its future generations. It's the end -- it's the fiscal cliff that we're headed toward with regard to Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, all these -- all these programs have to be reformed if they are going to be available in the future.

And then with regard to the military, the BRAC Commission recommends 25- percent of U.S. bases -- this is the Pentagon itself basically with its commission that has said that twenty-five percent of U.S. bases can and should be closed, and yet, there has not been the political will to do that because Congress, hey, it's all about getting reelected, it's all about bringing home the bacon.

If we had term limits, I don't think you would see a closing of U.S. bases as an issue. If we had term limits, I don't think we would have a $20 trillion national debt.

BARTIROMO: So, just to be clear, the priority is to balance the budget and that means lowering military spending cutting some of the programs that are so expensive that are headed for bankruptcy like Social Security and Medicare. Is that your strategy

JOHNSON: Well, it is and just when it comes to military, everybody needs to recognize that we are spending as much money on our military as the rest of the world combined. For anyone to think that there is not an excess with regard to military spending, you know what, I think they're in the minority. I think the majority of us recognize that what we've been doing isn't working, it hasn't resulted in a more safe world.


JOHNSON: And that we shouldn't be the world's policeman that we should have an impenetrable national defense. When we're attacked, we're going to attack back.

BARTIROMO: All right. We will leave it there.

Governor, good to have you on the program. We'll be watching.

JOHNSON: Great to be with you, Maria. Thank you.

BARTIROMO: Thank you so much. Gary Johnson joining us there.


JARRETT: And now with a look at what's coming up on "Media Buzz", let's check in with Howard Kurtz -- Howie.

HOWARD KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ" HOST: Good morning, Gregg.

Well, you mentioned debate moderators, our own Chris Wallace will join us talk about his role as the first FOX News journalists we pick for a general election presidential debate.

Also, the most schizophrenic coverage of Donald Trump this week very positive on his trip to Mexico, very harsh on his speech about immigration in Phoenix and then as well we'll talk about the FBI's document dump on Hillary Clinton.

And why did the Anthony Weiner sexting story again get so much media attention?

JARRETT: That's a very good question, Howie.

KURTZ: We'll answer it.

JARRETT: All right. We look forward to "Media Buzz." Howard, thanks.

KURTZ: You bet.

JARRETT: Donald Trump making appearances in Detroit in an effort to appeal to minority voters. How did he do? We'll ask our panel as we look ahead on "Sunday Morning Futures."


JARRETT: Donald Trump bringing his message to Detroit in an effort to appeal to minority voters. The Republican nominee speaking to a predominantly black congregation, which gave him a warm welcome. But outside, well, the mood was different. Dozens of protesters demonstrated against Mr. Trump as he tried to court voters in the church, saying he would lift our country's economic fortunes.


TRUMP: I believe we need a civil rights agenda for our time, one that ensures the rights to a great education, so important, and the right to live in safety and in peace and to have a really, really great job, a good paying job and one that you love to go to every morning. And that can happen.


JARRETT: Let's bring our panel, Mustafa Tameez joins just, a Democratic strategist. Sean Jackson is with us, the chairman of the board of the Black Republican Caucus of Florida.

Gentlemen, nice to have you both here.

Sean, will put it up on the screen. Trump's support among black voters is -- I think it's fair to say, abysmal. The latest Fox News poll has him at 4 percent. His poll average is 3 percent. I mean, he's deeply unpopular among African-Americans.

Is one visit to a black church really going to change that?

SEAN JACKSON, BLACK REPUBLICAN CAUCUS OF FL: Well, you know what, first and foremost, Gregg, thanks for having me on this morning.


JACKSON: But it's not just about this one visit to this one black church. You're going to see Mr. Trump I believe doing this time and time again from now until election day.

JARRETT: What took him so long? He's been running for 14 months.

JACKSON: Well, you know what, I can't personally speak to that. The best person to speak to that would be Omarosa Manigault who is the head of Trump diversity team. But what I can say is that Mr. Trump --

JARRETT: But were you frustrated when you saw that he didn't go to black colleges, black churches, black communities, and especially when he rejected the invitation to speak before NAACP?

JACKSON: Well, you know what, to be quite fair, Mr. Trump did not reject that invitation. As I understand it, there was a conflict of interest and unfortunately I just believe the ball was dropped and ensuring that someone from the campaign of that representative --

JARRETT: Did it frustrate you?

JACKSON: -- was there.

It didn't frustrate me because again I knew that it was a conflict of interest and I believe that the NAACP knew just how important that the Republican National Convention was at the time at their event. And, you know, I, no, it didn't frustrate me.

JARRETT: Right. Fair enough.

Mustafa, Trump delivered very scripted remarks. Some people said it looked like he hadn't read them yet, but he did say, quote, "those who seek office do not do enough to step into the community and learn what's going on." It sounds like he's talking about himself right now because first time he'd ever stepped into the community.

MUSTAFA TAMEEZ, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Yes, absolutely, but I am glad that he went. You know, there was a letter by national security experts, mostly Republican, that said Donald Trump is not prepared to handle national security issues and if there's anything he's less prepared that national security is domestic policy.

And so for him to be in inner-city and I think for the first time in his campaign I've heard him say that he was he actually is going to try to listen, it's just helpful I think is --

JARRETT: You think it's good, but others thought it was a charade. In fact, the head of the Detroit NAACP said it was a scam. Detroit's mayor said Trump offered no real solutions and some people in the congregation said, you know what, he wants something from us, it wouldn't have been nice if he came to us before he wanted something.

TAMEEZ: Well, look, he spent a lifetime. If he's elected, he will be the oldest president elected in the United States history. He spent a lifetime building condominiums for affluent, golf clubs. He has never worked in the inner city as a developer.

JARRETT: And discriminating against black tenants. His company was sued for racial discrimination.

TAMEEZ: And that was early and with him and his family. So he's had an entire lifetime of trying to do something definitely. He hasn't done it. And so now that he shows up right before election, people are naturally suspicious.

And then his rhetoric is an entire camp has been completely against --

JARRETT: Sean, what about that? I mean, he stirred a lot of anger in the African-American community when he said essentially your lives are so miserable, what do you have to lose, vote for me?

JACKSON: OK, but -- and that's my point, exactly to my point. Mrs. Clinton has done the exact same thing if you want to call it that, showing up at the night hour. She's spoken to the NAACP once. She has gone to a couple of black churches.


JARRETT: But that's more than Donald Trump.

JACKSON: Whether we go tit for tat on how many times, the fact of the matter is that Hillary Clinton's best interests or most precious interest is not in the black community, number one.

And number two, might I add that Mr. Trump was absolutely on point when he said that what do we have to lose?

Black folks across America have been giving the Democratic Party their vote for the past 50 years, and if you look in the most blighted communities of inner cities and the major most metropolitan areas that are Democratically run, might I add, you will see that Black Americans have not been able to be advanced their quality of life.

JARRETT: Mustafa, is it too high of a hurdle for him to gain any measurable increase in African-Americans support? A lot of people, especially African-Americans, hold it against Trump that he claimed for the longest time that the first African-American president wasn't born here, and he also suggests he wasn't qualified to attend Ivy League schools. I mean, people remember that stuff.

TAMEEZ: It's hard to forget it because he's at such a long history of not just saying the wrong things, but really doing the wrong things. And you know, after the last election, there was a autopsy done to talk about what the Republicans need to do in order to gain back trust from African- American communities and Latino communities, and Donald Trump has done and said completely the opposite of that, is alienated communities of color from voting for Republicans.

And it's a sad thing because we're two-party nation and as a Democrat I'm saying --

JACKSON: I disagree.

TAMEEZ: -- I want a strong Republican.

JARRETT: All right. Guys --

TAMEEZ: Trump is weakening the Republican Party by what he says and he has endangered the fabric of our nation.

JARRETT: All right. Guys, stick around because we've been talking about Trump in this segment. In the next segment, we'll talk about Hillary Clinton. The FBI releasing files on its investigation of Clinton's private email server, did it clear up the controversy surrounding the Democratic nominee, or is it now clear as mud?

The panel will be back in a moment to talk about it, as we look ahead on "Sunday Morning Futures."


JARRETT: Hillary Clinton's campaign facing some serious questions after FBI notes are made public about the agency's investigation over private email server. Mrs. Clinton claiming she had little to no training on how to handle classified information. The Democratic nominee saying she relied on the judgment of her staff and other officials.

Well, the panel is back to talk about this.

Mustafa, you know what's striking when you reach her and I've read through it three times now, you know, 60-some-odd pages here, she doesn't remember key facts, vital documents, important events. I'm just going to put a few of them up on the screen. She said, I cannot recall getting security clearance, receiving classified training or briefings, using my power to classify who had access to my emails, receiving emails that should not be on unclassified system, and security briefings when leaving office because of her concussion.

Is it more than just a lack of judgment but in competence?

TAMEEZ: But, look, prior -- in the last Friday, not this Friday, past Friday, State Department released her calendar and it showed that she has basically from early morning to late evening every single day been out there working for the American public and these type of issues that have gathered --

JARRETT: Yes. But in what capacity?


TAMEEZ: -- back and forth.

JARRETT: What measure of competence has she been doing it?

TAMEEZ: As a secretary of state, she has delivered for this nation and the questions that were asked by the FBI, she honest -- she, you know, she responded truthfully. She talked about things that she's apologized for this. She said that, look, she should not have that private server.

JARRETT: She didn't really answer truthfully.

TAMEEZ: She's done everything she can to answer the question.

JARRETT: If she couldn't recall 40 times, Sean, she said, I can't recall. I mean it was really pretty stunning. How damaging could this be to her?

JACKSON: You know, sadly, as damaging as it is, I still find it absurd that the American people won't open their eyes and realize just how detrimental of a leader Mrs. Clinton would be if elected.

I'll give you a perfect example, Gregg. As chairman, I'm responsible to know everything that's in this plan right here. This plan helps me to govern the Black Republican Caucus of Florida and put policies in place to help blacks across the country to better their lives, OK?

If I don't know what's in that plan, then I failed at my job.

JARRETT: All right.

JACKSON: Secretary Clinton knows every single thing that has been a part of her classification briefings, and it's a lie -- blatant lie the now, all of a sudden, she doesn't know what was a relayed to her. And if she in fact does not remember --


JARRETT: She's confronted with military documents about proposed drone strikes and she said, I didn't realize that's classified.

Gentlemen, thanks.

That does it for us. I'm Gregg Jarrett, in for Maria Bartiromo.

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