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Kellyanne Conway: Trump brings message directly to voters; Trump counter-punches against Clinton's racism accusations

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," August 29, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." And tonight, it's going to be a very big week for Donald Trump on the campaign trail. Now, the GOP nominee is scheduled to deliver a major speech outlining his immigration policy. Now, that takes place Wednesday in Arizona. He'll also travel to Detroit this week and this weekend to speak directly to black American voters.

And earlier today, the Trump campaigned -- they released a new ad slamming Hillary Clinton on the economy. Let's take a look.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In Hillary Clinton's America, the middle class gets crushed. Spending goes up. Taxes go up. Hundreds of thousands of jobs disappear. It's more of the same but worse. In Donald Trump's America, working families get tax relief, millions of new jobs created. Wages go up. Small businesses thrive. The American dream, achievable.

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HANNITY: Here with reaction, Donald Trump's campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway is back with us. Kellyanne, good to see you.

KELLYANNE CONWAY, TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Hi, Sean.

HANNITY: Pretty ambitious week. I would argue the last two weeks have been the best two of the campaign in terms of staying on message. He seems to be very comfortable now with a teleprompter and less controversy in terms of social media. Is that by design?

CONWAY: Well, he's having a great time out on the campaign trail, and I think, mostly, Sean because he brings his message directly to the voters.

Look at the difference between the two campaign strategies in terms of just candidate appearances. He's at rally after rally. We have overflow rooms.  The people can't even get in, we have such demand for his rallies.

And when he's there, what does he do? He talks about specific policy solutions. In the last two weeks alone, he has talked about defeating radical Islamic terrorism, granting middle class tax relief. He's taken his message to communities of color directly and challenged Hillary Clinton and Democrats to explain their records -- their awful records over a series of decades.

He's addressed Hillary Clinton and her foundation. He's talked about law enforcement. I mean, the list goes on and on. If you want to know where he stands on the issues, tune into one of his rallies.

You contrast that with Hillary Clinton who basically is doing fund-raisers and one single speech, Sean, not about immigration or health care or education or ISIS or the economy or jobs or infrastructure/energy. She gave one speech, and it was about Donald Trump and some Web sites. So

it shows you the different -- and you see it reflected in the polls now.  We put out a 10-state ad buy today with that economic ad really showing people they have a choice in this election, tremendous contrast on economic growth and taxes and middle class affordability.

And the polls show it tightening everywhere. Emerson College released three polls today. We are within the margin of error in Ohio and in Pennsylvania and in Michigan, and in all three states, we lead her among independents. In the state of Ohio, according to the Emerson College poll, we are leading Hillary Clinton by 17 points among independents.

And lastly, the Morning Consult poll came out yesterday showing that we cut Hillary Clinton's lead from 6 percent to 3 percent nationwide.

But what was really remarkable about that poll, Sean, was Hillary Clinton is leading Donald Trump among women 44 percent to 35 percent. Sean, 44 percent of American women say they're going to vote for the first female president? It tells you that this election is about Hillary Clinton, and we will continue to make it about Hillary Clinton.

HANNITY: (INAUDIBLE) one poll, too, and that was The LA Times poll. I predicted last week, you know, Hillary Clinton -- she was exposed last week in a pay-to-play scheme...

CONWAY: Yes.

HANNITY: ... where top donors of the Clinton Foundation, literally more than half the people she saw, individuals, as secretary of state were donors or pledged money to the foundation.

Now, that's also the week that they released the Klan ad and make these horrible accusations. They seem to have doubled down on it. Is it overreach -- in other words, inasmuch as it's a mistake now for her, that it's so absurd and it's so silly that people see it as dirty politics, typical D.C. politics?

CONWAY: What you just said is exactly how most voters will see it, Sean, for the following reason. Voters have to look at something. It has to make sense for them to believe it. And so I think Clinton and also Tim Kaine, who was a real disappointment last week playing this race card -- for them to go so far afield on these accusations and these conspiracies, most people will look at that and say that doesn't make any sense.

And by the way, when is the last time you told me what my tax burden will be under your administration, why you call ISIS our, quote, "determined enemies," as if we're playing a soccer match against them, rather than the savage murderers that they are -- 33,000 people killed since 2003, 80 percent of which were killed just in the last three years, since the birth and growth of ISIS.

So people will look at that and say, You seem desperate. And in the case of Tim Kaine, I mean, we expect the rough and tumble politics, the lies from Hillary Clinton and her folks. But Tim Kaine -- he's been a mayor, a senator, a governor. You're running for vice president, Harvard law degree, and you stoop so low that you are making these allegations. And I think it's going to backfire.

Look, forget about what I think. Look at the polls. If that were an effective message...

HANNITY: And here's what's interesting...

CONWAY: These polls were all taken after Hillary Clinton made that speech and after Tim Kaine and the ad were released.

HANNITY: Now, Donald Trump is going to go back to Detroit. He's going to reach out again to the black community.

CONWAY: Yes.

HANNITY: He did it outside of Milwaukee. He's done another speech. So this will be the third speech. One interesting poll -- the Pew Research had him at 14.6 percent with the black community. Now, maybe not the highest number, but it is better than the last eight Republican presidential campaigns that have taken place.

CONWAY: Oh, yes.

HANNITY: And voters -- so how big a percentage of the black vote do you think he's able to get? And will that make up for some of the establishment Republicans, even some of his former rivals that didn't live up to their commitment to support the candidate?

CONWAY: Yes, I do think so. And by the way, anything you see reflected in the polls, remember, Sean, that we are doing this -- Mr. Trump is doing this without the support of all Republicans. And it's quite remarkable because, you know, Mitt Romney can rely upon every -- practically every Republican legislator, all the donors line up. Everybody is just trying to help him become elected. And of course, they lost eight of the nine swing states. Let's not forget they got 6 percent of the African-American vote, 27 percent of the Hispanic vote, 26 percent of the Asian vote.

At least give us our chance to improve upon those margins. And as you mentioned, the Pew poll, even the NBC poll last week, you see very dramatic improvement in our margins among the African-American community. That means that showing up and showing people that you care and actually addressing their concerns, and also appreciating and lauding their many accomplishments, is really the way to do this.

HANNITY: Well, let me ask you this...

CONWAY: We're not leaving any vote for granted in any state.

HANNITY: Last question. Hillary and her campaign is spending up to $80 million to $100 million. I know you announced a $10 million ad buy. Do you think you need to match her dollar for dollar?

CONWAY: We don't need to match Hillary Clinton dollar for dollar or personnel to personnel because we have something she'll never have, which is a candidate that is dynamic, magnetic, really compelling. People show up at these rallies wanting to see her (sic). I assume the reason she doesn't do that -- she goes to private fund-raisers with her Hollywood friends and elsewhere -- I assume because nobody counts how many folks are there. They just count the dollars afterwards.

She couldn't fill up these rallies that Donald Trump fills up. She couldn't have these kinds of audiences. So...

HANNITY: And 268 days without a press conference, right.

CONWAY: That's right. That's right, 265 days without a press conference, by the way, which the press, very few seem outraged. They love covering Donald Trump because, you know, I mean, God, she's -- I know she's boring and she lies for a living, but there are two candidates running for president here. They should be both be covered more often.

But we have something she'll never have. No focus group, no pollster, no donor, no 1,000 people working in Brooklyn will never change the fact between now and November 8th, we have the much more compelling, magnetic candidate that's willing to take his case directly to the voters. She -- scarcity seems to be their strategy.

HANNITY: All right, we...

CONWAY: When she comes out of hiding, it's really just to give a speech about him or to raise money.

HANNITY: All right, Kellyanne, thank you.

And up next on this busy news night tonight right here on "Hannity"...

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DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: As I've said many times in recent days, it's hard to tell where the Clinton Foundation ends and where the State Department begins! That's what's happened.

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HANNITY: Donald Trump slamming Hillary Clinton as newly released emails appear to show the Clinton Foundation donors were, in fact, given special treatment by Hillary's State Department. Peter Schweizer and Dr. Ben Carson -- they're here with reaction next.

Later tonight, new controversy over Hillary's 2010 speech in Saudi Arabia, where -- reportedly alongside Huma Abedin's mother, where Hillary allegedly defended the horrible treatment of women in Saudi Arabia. Jay Sekulow, Doug Schoen, Deneen Borelli will weigh in.

Also, Sheriff David Clarke, Larry Elder react later tonight to Clinton playing the race card yet again against Trump. Much more -- this and much more as we continue.

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TRUMP: The whole world has been shocked by the continuing revelations regarding Hillary Clinton and her pay-for-play State Department and other things! As I've said many times in recent days, it's hard to tell where the Clinton Foundation ends and where the State Department begins! That's what's happened.

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HANNITY: Donald Trump continues to go after Hillary Clinton over the numerous scandals revolving around her family foundation. Now, as ABC News first reported, newly released State Department emails appear to reveal that the foundation donors, of course, were given special treatment from Hillary's State Department. Now, 2010 emails showed discussions to give foundation contributors an invitation and preferred seating to a State Department luncheon with China's former president.

Now, the Clinton campaign did provide us with a comment on this story, saying that Hillary Clinton's State Department only acted to advance America's foreign policy interests and didn't have any other intention.

One of the Clinton donors that were involved in this report is denying attending the event, while another says that he does not have a record of it.

Joining us now with reaction, author of "Clinton Cash," Peter Schweizer.  Peter, you know, between that, and we've got another scandal emerging about a guy that you and I have talked about. What's his name, Chagoury, and his connection...

PETER SCHWEIZER, "CLINTON CASH" AUTHOR: Yes, Gilbert Chagoury, yes.

HANNITY: I'm sorry, Chagoury -- and his connection to the Lebanese, you know, Shi'ite-funded group Hezbollah, which is a terrorist organization as identified by our government.

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SCHWEIZER: Yes, you're right, Sean...

HANNITY: ... more revelations by the day.

SCHWEIZER: Yes, no, that's exactly right. And what it's doing is it's further confirming what you and I talked about more than a year ago involving Gilbert Chagoury, involving pay to play. And that is these e mails are now confirming precisely that.

Look, the Clinton Foundation is playing a major role in Hillary Clinton's State Department, determining which foreign officials she's meeting with, you know, who is going to have her ear or senior policy maker's ears on policy. And these are not, you know, just American corporations. These are foreign oligarchs who have their own agendas, Gilbert Chagoury being an example.

Why this guy, who is connected with a movement in Lebanon that is allied with Hezbollah, that was on the national federal "do not fly" list in the United States is being given access to top decision makers at the State Department by Doug Band of the Clinton Foundation is beyond me. And it's evidence of this pay-to-play corruption.

HANNITY: But you've got this guy, Doug Band, who works for the Clinton Foundation while Hillary is secretary of state. He makes the entre to Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills, and it seems that every time he does, that the connection is made for the people that gave money.

Over half the meetings she had with private citizens are people that donated or pledged to donate. Well, that sounds like she's selling out her office! And often is the case, like the guy that got the forestry rights in Colombia, you give to the foundation, you get access to Hillary. You get meetings with people that can help make you more money, and I assume more gets back to the foundation.

SCHWEIZER: Yes. That's right. I mean, we know now on at least three continents, that was the case, that the Clintons helped Clinton Foundation donors procure lucrative deals from foreign governments using her purchase as secretary of state as a sweetener. And then those entities, after they made their money, made large donations to the Clinton Foundation.

Look, these meetings -- we're not talking about donors that are giving $25, $2,500, or even $25,000 to the Clinton Foundation. We're talking about half a million, a million, multi-million dollar donors to the Clinton Foundation. It's pay-to-play. And everybody in Washington knows...

HANNITY: Chagoury, though -- I mean, there's a 2013 -- this is a guy that couldn't get a visa to get into the country because of his connection to a terrorist group called Hezbollah!

Now, add to that Huma Abedin's mother, who I guess edited this book that, you know, endorses stoning and lashing of adulterers and the killing of apostates and sexual submissiveness for women, whether they want to or not, and even genital mutilation of women -- well, Huma got her mother and Hillary to go to a place in Saudi Arabia, a girls' school in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, and Hillary Clinton says, Oh, we got to stop as Americans stereotyping Saudi women as oppressed!

Well, they're told how to dress. They can't drive. They can't leave the country. They're told if they can go to school or work. And she said, We've got to stop oppressing them. Why? Because she wants more money to the foundation?

SCHWEIZER: Yes. I mean, you know, Sean, look, money can buy you lots of things. It can buy you access. It can buy you favors. It can also buy you silence. And if you are movements around the world that can be legitimately criticized for the oppression of women...

HANNITY: The Saudis bought her silence. Is that a fair statement?  Because if she's saying we've got to stop this myth that Saudi women are oppressed -- that's just a lie.

SCHWEIZER: Well, it's not only a lie. It's completely out of character with anything else Hillary Clinton has ever said about women's rights in the third world.

HANNITY: And money bought that, didn't it.

SCHWEIZER: I think it did.

HANNITY: Very likely.

SCHWEIZER: I think it did...

HANNITY: I believe it did, too.

SCHWEIZER: There's no other way to explain it. There's no other way to explain it.

HANNITY: All right, Peter, thank you, as always.

Here with reaction, 2016 GOP presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson. Dr. Carson, let me play for you Donna Brazile, poor Donna struggling to defend this foundation issue. I felt bad for her. Watch this.

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DONNA BRAZILE, DNC CHAIR: The way I look at it -- I've been a government official. So you know, this notion that somehow or another, someone who is a supporter, someone who is a donor, somebody who is an activist saying, I want access, I want to come into a room and I want to meet people -- we -- we all think criminalized behavior that is normal. I don't see what the smoke is.

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HANNITY: I don't see what the smoke is? It seems the only people that really had access to her is if you gave money! I doubt you could get in to see her when she was secretary of state unless you donated.

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DR. BEN CARSON, FMR. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Sure. Well, if this is normal behavior, then we certainly don't want more of it. I mean, think about it. If you were secretary of state and you were going to engage in pay-to-play, what would you do? You would try to cover your tracks. And hence you see all these deleted emails and all this subterfuge.

I feel sorry for Donna Brazile and the people who have to try to defend this because they know it's not right. But here's the real thing to think about. If you have all of these irregularities going on and she's secretary of state, what will happen if she is president? Just imagine that!

HANNITY: I think that's a really good point. How is it that this doesn't seem to be penetrating? And do you think that the revelations last week and the new emails last week that showed that more than half of the people, private individuals she met with, actually donated to the foundation or pledged donations?

Do you think they purposely used the race card to distract the attention of the American people by playing the Klan ad?

CARSON: Well, I think that's always their default position. We can play the race card. And that, I think, in and of itself is a mistake, to liken Donald Trump to the Ku Klux Klan. It will make people start asking questions, like, Where did the Ku Klux Klan come from? They came from the Democratic Party.

Who was the party of slavery? It was the Democratic Party. Jim Crow, the Democratic Party. Segregation, Democratic Party. Trying to keep guns out of the hands of blacks, the Democratic Party. Who resisted the passage of Civil Rights movement? The Democratic Party.

HANNITY: Well, there's only one person in this race that actually praised a former Klansman as their mentor, and that was Hillary.

CARSON: Exactly.

HANNITY: She's praising Robert Byrd. Do you think that Donald Trump is now going to go back to Detroit -- and he's been in Milwaukee, and he's now given three specific speeches targeting black Americans and saying to them, Hey, you're not better off as black Americans under Obama and Hillary's policies. But I will make more opportunity for you and put Americans first.

Do you think that message is going to resonate in the black community and increase the percentage of the black vote for the Republican Party?

CARSON: I think it will. Of course, the Democrats are alarmed, and they're going to attack him vociferously. Why? Because this is their sacred cow, and they don't want that group of voters disturbed.

But the fact of the matter is, you know, African-Americans are smart just like everybody else, and they will open their eyes. And they will recognize...

HANNITY: Do you think -- but the race card is played every election season, every single time. Does it work? And if it didn't work, why are they playing it again?

CARSON: Well, it does work for people who basically don't spend a lot of time analyzing the situation for themselves and saying, Are we actually better off? What is happening with our employment, with our out-of-wedlock births, with our families, with our education?

But a lot of people are starting to ask those questions. I think Donald Trump is causing them to ask those questions. He's talking about it in all kinds of environments, and then he's going to bring it actually to the black community. And I think there will be a lot of people with their ears open, ready to hear what he has to say and evaluate it in an objective fashion, and I think it will have a difference.

HANNITY: All right, Dr. Carson, always good to see you. Thanks for being with us.

And coming up...

HANNITY: You too, Sean.

HANNITY: ... why was Hillary Clinton back in 2010 speaking alongside Huma Abedin's controversial mother about the need for people to go beyond, quote, "the stereotypes," the mischaracterization of women in Saudi Arabia?  Really? I think it's actually fairly accurate.

Coming up next, we will reveal what life is really like for women in that country. Jay Sekulow, Doug Schoen, Deneen Borelli weigh in next.

Also tonight, Hillary Clinton continues to play the race card against Donald Trump while the GOP nominee is making a huge outreach to the black community. Sheriff David Clarke, Larry Elder weigh in tonight and more straight ahead.

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HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." So Hillary Clinton has long proclaimed that she's a champion of women's rights, but some damning new revelations might paint a much different picture. According to The New York Post, in February of 2010, top Clinton aide Huma Abedin arranged for Hillary Clinton to speak at an all girls' school in Saudi Arabia.

And during her remarks, Clinton said, quote, "When I was speaking to the women leaders, one of them asked me if I could, do anything about the media's portrayal of Saudi women, particularly the American media, which presents a very unidimensional view, as the women mentioned to me in our short, small meeting, focusing more on what's on your head than inside your head or your heart. My answer was, I wish I could do something about the way the media portrays these women. I think we all do a better job of getting beyond the stereotypes and mischaracterization."

For the record, let's take a look at how women are really treated in Saudi Arabia. For example, the Islamic theocracy has strict laws preventing women -- they can't drive a car. Also, laws requiring women to gain permission to work or even travel. And unbelievably, there is no law recognizing marital rape as a crime.

Joining us now with reaction, chief counsel for the American Center for Law and Justice Jay Sekulow, FOX News contributor Doug Schoen, as well as Fox News contributor Deneen Borelli.

All right, I think the thing that really stuck out here is, number one, Jay, she went to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, in this particular case. She was with Huma Abedin's mother, who is a very controversial figure, and of course, we know she had edited some work of a colleague...

JAY SEKULOW, AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE: Right.

HANNITY: ... that basically condones stoning and lashing of adulterers, killing of apostates, sexual submissiveness by women to men any time they want, even female genital mutilation all acceptable under sharia.

And then Hillary saying that, you know, Americans have to stop stereotyping Saudi women as oppressed. Well, what I just laid out is oppression of women, isn't it?

SEKULOW: Well, could you imagine if this was the lead aide, the senior aide to Donald Trump or anybody else that was running for president of the United States? And it's not just her mother. Huma Abedin's name appeared on the Journal for Muslim Minority Affairs, which had these articles in it, some of which you've referenced, about 9/11 being the responsibility of the United States because of harassment in Iraq. You've got, of course, this situation with the Saudi school.

The idea that the champion of women was advocating the position of Saudi Arabia as regard to women is repulsive! And I think that the double standard here is beyond ironic. Frankly, the mainstream media here, the main media outlets, should be making this the story that it is. And Sean, I'm glad we're covering it tonight.

HANNITY: How, Doug Schoen, can you justify...

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SEKULOW: ... an embarrassment to the American political system to see this!

HANNITY: So Hillary Clinton is saying, We've got to stop stereotyping Saudi women as oppressed, when we all know on this panel they're oppressed.  And she takes up to $25 million for the foundation, $10 million for the library. Did the Saudis buy her off? Did they buy her silence on women's rights?

DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: First of all, no, they didn't because in 2011, she and the State Department decried the precise behaviors...

HANNITY: Excuse me! She said we've got to get rid of the stereotype of Saudi women being portrayed as oppressed! Are Saudi women oppressed, Doug?

SCHOEN: Yes! She said it was wrong. She changed her position in The Guardian in June of 2011. The State Department...

HANNITY: Oh, so they weren't oppressed in 2010 when they had to dress in a burka...

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SCHOEN: She said the wrong thing, and I'm very glad she corrected the record. She should never be with Huma Abedin's mother or involved with that journal.

HANNITY: Well, maybe not with Huma, either, considering Huma edited that paper.

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HANNITY: She was involved with Huma Abedin's mother. And that's the problem.

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SCHOEN: And you know what, she made a mistake. She changed her position.  Thank goodness she did it.

HANNITY: Oh, she changed her position after they gave the money?

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SCHOEN: ... about Mr. Bannon and anti-Semitism.

DENEEN BORELLI, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, Hillary Clinton is about power. She is not about a shred of principle.

And look at who she was associated with. If this was Donald Trump, just like Jay Sekulow said, this would be headline news every day, all day.  Huma's mother believes -- she promotes sharia law. She doesn't think women should be independent. She thinks it's perfectly fine for women to participate in jihad, and she also said that America had 9/11 coming to us.

These are pretty outrageous claims that are happening with this woman, and if this was the other way around, it would be outrage every day, all day!

HANNITY: And Hillary, by the way, went and said this with her! She hung out with this woman. Her views were known at that time, was it not?

BORELLI: No, absolutely right. This should be in the headlines all the -- you know, constantly.

HANNITY: Am I wrong, Jay Sekulow? Look, to me, you give Hillary or the Clinton Foundation money. You buy access to the State Department. You get favors from the State Department, and you also, if you're the Saudis, you buy her silence. So she's really not a champion of women's rights, gay and lesbian rights.

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JAY SEKULOW, AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE: But, Doug, it looks like the -- I mean, you can try to defend this, but it's really indefensible.

DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I'm not defending it. I'm saying she made a mistake and corrected the record.

SEKULOW: But remember, Sean, in this periodical that Huma Abedin is the coeditor, associate editor with her mother, were advocating the applicability of sharia, that working women were a violation and --

HANNITY: But, Jay, you can buy her silence.

SEKULOW: To me this whole war on women, it started with Huma Abedin, her mother, and Secretary Clinton allowed it to take place.

HANNITY: Does this prove you can buy access to Hillary? Does this prove you can get her to compromise every principle as it relates to being a champion for women, gays, lesbians, who can be killed in Saudi Arabia, and Christians and Jews because you can't build a temple or a church. You can buy her silence, can't you?

SEKULOW: The mother, by the way -- the mother specifically says that gay and lesbians could not be parents legally. This was in their periodical.

HANNITY: Thank you all for being with us. I appreciate it.

Coming up, Donald Trump continues to reach out to the black community and black voters as Hillary Clinton keeps playing the race card. We'll check in with Sheriff David Clarke and Larry Elder. That's next.

Plus, this holiday weekend, Trump will travel to Detroit. He will speak with a crowd of predominantly black Americans and reach out for their vote.  We'll have reaction as HANNITY continues tonight.  

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HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." So over the weekend, GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump, he came under fire over a tweet that he wrote drawing attention to the deadly violence that is now plaguing Chicago. Trump tweeted, quote, "Dwyane Wade's cousin was just shot and killed walking her baby in Chicago. Just what I have been saying. African-Americans will vote Trump."

Now, Trump wrote a follow-up tweet later in the day, saying "My condolences to Dwyane Wade and his family in the loss of, of course, their cousin.  They are in my thoughts and in prayers." Liberals in social media were quick to criticize Donald Trump over the tweets while turning a blind eye to the violence that has caused the death of in this case Ms. Aldridge.

Joining us now, Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, Salem Radio national syndicated talk show host Larry Elder. You know, they could say this, Sheriff Clarke, all they want, but I doubt that Barack Obama could name five names of the over 3,500 people, many of whom are black, that were killed in Chicago since he's been president.

SHERIFF DAVID CLARKE, MILWAUKEE COUNTY: Kudos to Donald Trump. There was nothing insensitive about that tweet. As a matter of fact, I would have found it insensitive to not say anything about all the carnage that's going on in the city of Chicago, 460 people murdered, mainly black. And you look at that compared to coalition forces killed in Afghanistan since the start of the Obama second term in 2013, 275.

Look, Mrs. Bill Clinton never saw this coming. The Democrats are scurrying because they know he struck a nerve. They've had to take out ads. They've had to go back. But the one thing they cannot do, they went for the race card. They cannot defend the indefensible. These American ghettos are hellholes, and Donald Trump is the only one that wants to talk about this.

HANNITY: Larry Elder, Donald Trump is making a huge effort, more than any other presidential candidate I can think of in recent memory, maybe besides Rand Paul, who ran in this cycle, that wants the black vote, saying, I want your vote, and he's going to Milwaukee, and he's going to go back to Detroit this weekend.

Look at the numbers. Chicago alone, many of these homicides are black Americans, 3,579 since Obama has been president. The number of African- Americans, black Americans on food stamps, up 58 percent under Obama, number of black Americans in poverty has jumped more than eight percent under Obama. You take it further, number of African-Americans not in the labor force, up 20 percent. This is insanity. Number of home ownership rate for black Americans, down 4.6 percent. Household income, real dollars, down under Obama. What has he done for the black community? What has he done or Hillary done to deserve 93 percent of the black vote like Obama got in 2012?

LARRY ELDER, SALEM RADIO NATIONAL SYNDICATED HOST: I would also say, however, that Ben Carson also made an effort to attract the black vote.

HANNITY: Good point. Fair.

ELDER: Look, what Donald Trump is doing is calling into question the entire ethos of the Democratic Party, which is why they're pulling out the race card. God forbid that black people should rethink the welfare state that has incentivized black women to marry the government and allowed man to abandon their financial and moral responsibility. God forbid that black should rethink government schools that they're assigned to without voucher.  When parents have had vouchers, parental satisfaction has gone up, graduation rates have gone up, test scores have improved.

God forbid they ought to question minimum wage. At one time believe it or not, a black teenager was more likely to have a job than a white teenager.  And of course this Black Lives Matter movement, which is founded upon a lie, which has caused cops to become more passive and crime has gone up and victimized innocent black people. So Donald Trump is asking black people to rethink all of this. And when they wake up, and they will, there's going to be hell to pay at the ballot box.

HANNITY: It's going to be interesting, you look at those numbers, and they're overwhelmingly bad for the black community. Liberal, leftist, statist, socialist policies have not worked for the black community, and the murder rate is so high, but they only pay attention in the case of Obama and Clinton to high-profile race cases that they can use as the lens or prism that advances the narrative that they want.

Every election, sheriff, though, Missouri, Democratic Party, 1998, elect Republicans, black churches will burn. James Bird ad in 2000. Al Gore telling a predominantly black population in a speech that, oh, by the way, Republicans have the wrong agenda for black Americans and they don't even want to count you in the census. Now the Klan ad put out by the Clinton campaign and updated by Tim Kaine over the weekend as well, you know, it's the most despicable form of politics. Does it backfire or does it work?

CLARKE: It backfires. I like that saying that dog just won't hunt this time. Look, these progressive urban policies have destroyed cities. They have wrecked motivation. They have created a permanent underclass in the American ghetto.

What I find encouraging, Sean, is that a recent poll that just came out said 16 percent of the black vote is undecided in this race, 16 percent.  If Donald Trump captures five to eight percent of that 16 percent, and that 16 percent tells me these people want to take another look. If he gets five percent to eight percent of this, he wins this thing going away in some of the swing states like Virginia, North Carolina, and other places.

HANNITY: So those are the undecided. What percentage -- the Pew poll had him at 14.6 percent of the black community. Larry Elder?

ELDER: Who knows? I'm predicting he can get as high as 20 percent to 25 percent because I hear in California there was a ballot initiative to get rid of race-based preferences, and about 30 percent of blacks voted for that, so I think that's a sweet spot. Also Donald Trump has talked about the impact of illegal immigration, putting downward pressure on wages and downward pressure on jobs in the inner city. These are the kinds of things that if he continues to talk about them, he can stave off a substantial --

HANNITY: And you don't think the race card works? Why do Democrats keep using it every election year if it doesn't work?

ELDER: Well, it does work.

CLARKE: They're a one-trick pony.

ELDER: What they're doing is trying to tell black people race and racism remain major problems in America, which they don't. And these guys over here, these Tea Party guys, these conservative black guys like Sheriff Clarke, they're the enemy. And, by the way, we're the savior. And unfortunately it has worked, but it's not going to work for very much longer.

HANNITY: Sheriff, last word.

CLARKE: Look, this thing is wide open right now. There's a good chance that Donald Trump will make inroads. I'm not going to predict any seismic shift in the black voting habits just yet, but I'm very encouraged by what I'm seeing. You cannot defend life in the American ghetto. Democrats have herded black people, taken them from the cotton fields, and now they have them herded onto that plantation called the American ghetto.

HANNITY: Thank you both for being with us. When we come back tonight right here on "Hannity."

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TRUMP: African-Americans have given so much to this country. They've fought and died in every war since the revolution. They've lifted up the conscience of our nation in the civil rights movement.

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HANNITY: We'll have more on Donald Trump's outreach to the black American community and African-American voters. This holiday weekend he's going to Detroit. We'll have reaction, that and more as HANNITY continues.  

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TRUMP: African-Americans have given so much to this country. They've fought and died in every war since the revolution. They've lifted up the conscience of our nation in the civil rights movement. They've sacrificed so much for the national good. Now is the time to put a new agenda into action that expands opportunity, ensure equality, and that protects the rights of each and every citizen.

We have to stop the crime. We have to stop the bad education. We have to help with housing. We have to solve our inner city problems and we will.  I will fix it.

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HANNITY: Donald Trump on Saturday reaching out to African-American voters in what could be a preview of next weekend's trip to Detroit where Trump will address a predominantly black audience.

Joining us now with analysis, the CEO for the NOW Network, an executive of Trump's Evangelical Advisory Board, Pastor Mark Burns, and the senior pastor of the New Spirit Revival Center and the CEO for the National Diversity Coalition for Trump, Reverend Darrell Scott. Guys, good to see you.

I see that you've caused quite a bit of controversy, Pastor Burns, and you had an image you tweeted out of Hillary in black face when she had changed her cadence, saying "I ain't in no ways tired," and she made that -- by the way. It's a common thing. I don't understand, Al Gore, Hillary Clinton get before predominantly black audiences and their whole speaking style and cadence and pitch change, and then you talked about her hot sauce comment and affiliation with Black Lives Matter and F the police. But a lot of people are angry with you tonight. Why would you put her in black face?

PASTOR MARK BURNS, NATIONAL DIVERSITY COALITION FOR TRUMP: What's really the tragedy is the Clinton family, the Democrat Party not owning up to their failed policies with African-Americans. What the real tragedy is, the fact that African-Americans across this country are not doing just as well as other families are in this country due to failed policies of the Democratic Party and not owning up to it.

HANNITY: Do you have any regrets of doing it, or do you stand by it?

BURNS: I'm going to say, obviously, I'm a pastor. It is never my intention to offend anyone. So naturally, it's because many people are offended by it, you know, I don't want to do that. I don't want to offend anyone. My job is to bring peace and bring people together, not divide.

HANNITY: Is the broader message, putting aside the controversy, is the broader message, as we were discussing in the last segment, black Americans have not fared well under Obama's policies, under Hillary's policies? A 58 percent increase in black Americans on food stamps, 20 percent increase black Americans not participating in the labor force, those numbers are dramatic.

BURNS: The math is real. And we don't want to deal with the math. What I think is even more troublesome, really this is political correctness at its highest. The very fact that we are talking about the African American community like we're one great herd of cattle that you can place in the barn and talk to one group of African Americans you're talking to all of us.

HANNITY: Pastor, historically, demographically in these presidential elections, you know, 90 percent, sometimes more of a black community votes Democratic. But the black community has not fared well under the last eight years, policies of leftism, statism, liberalism, redistribution.

REV. DARRELL SCOTT, NATIONAL DIVERSITY COALITION FOR TRUMP: We've been traditionally voting Democrat, once again, out of what I just said, tradition. A number of blacks vote Democrat and don't even ask themselves why. They think, well, I'm a Democrat. And why? Because I'm a Democrat.  And they haven't questioned it. But they don't see what the fruit, what the result of the Democratic Party's policies for black America are. And the Democratic Party takes black Americans for granted. The Democratic Party takes the black vote for granted.

HANNITY: But do you think the use of the race card, which Hillary and Kaine are now doing, do you think it's effective? And if they didn't think it was effective they won't be doing it every two to four years, would they?

SCOTT: They wouldn't. And they think it's effective because it keeps blacks on the plantation. I call the Democratic Party the plantation.  They keep the blacks on the plantation.

We've got to realize they're trying to act if Trump is just now beginning to engage the black community. We engaged with Mr. Trump over a year ago.  And last October, 2015, over 50 of us met with him in Atlanta. Last December, over 100 pastors met with Donald Trump, and the Democratic Party fuelled the outrage. They didn't even know what we were sitting down to talk about. But the Democratic Party fuelled the outrage of you shouldn't talk to him. You should not have any dialogue with him. Now he's going to appear on the Impact Network, which is the largest African American-owned black gospel network in America. He's going to appear that network, and they're going to have a question or answer with them, and the black community is beginning to get into an uproar, again, and the Democrats are behind it.

HANNITY: And do you think Trump should get 20 percent of the black vote?

SCOTT: He should get 100 percent of the black vote.

HANNITY: Guys, thank you.

When we come back, we need your help. Our question of the day is straight ahead.  

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HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." So "Question of the Day," what do you think about Trump's new ad attacking Clinton on the economy? Aren't elections usually won on peace and prosperity? The economy would be the prosperity part. Go to Facebook.com/SeanHannity, @SeanHannity on Twitter, let us know what you think.

Unfortunately that's all the time we have left this evening. Thank you for being with us. We will see you back here tomorrow night.

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