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Herman Cain encourages Donald Trump to visit Chicago

This is a rush transcript from "Your World," August 29, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

STUART VARNEY, GUEST HOST: Race is clearly back on the political front burner.

San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refusing to stand for the national anthem, and Trump planning to speak at an African-American church this Saturday in Detroit.

To former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain, who says Trump is making the right move.

All right, Herman, should Mr. Trump go to Chicago and meet with the superintendent of police in Chicago? Should he do that?

HERMAN CAIN, CEO, THE NEW VOICE: Yes, because one of the characteristics that has made Trump distinguish himself is his ability to listen.

He will listen to the police chief. He will listen to the people in the community to get the ideas. One of the signs of a great leader, Stuart, which is one of the reasons I think so many people are attracted to Trump, is his ability to listen and then formulate targeted solutions.

There's no silver bullet, because every city with these kinds of problems will be different. You need a listener. And maybe it's resources. And that's the type of thing that I believe Trump would learn by going there.

VARNEY: Some of the incidents which have been reported recently make me feel that this is very much a divided nation. Is it? It is, but is it getting worse?

CAIN: It is a divided nation through the lens of the media, because the lens of the liberal media, by the way, they highlight all of the negative stuff, all of the senseless killings, the riots in Ferguson, the riots in Baltimore and all of that. That's what people see.

If you want to see that aspect of America, it comes across as a divided nation. But people who experience other people where they live, we're not a divided nation. People don't see this in their everyday lives.  They only see it through the lens of the liberal media.

This is why the leader of the nation has to set the right tone, so that people understand that you're looking at it through two different lenses. That is what it is. The nation is not divided.

VARNEY: What do you make of the Kaepernick -- Kaepernick incident, if I can call it that? What is your reaction?

CAIN: My reaction is, he is not aware that we have these two lenses that I'm talking about.

He is reacting to the liberal lens, which a lot of people reacted to.  He doesn't understand that that doesn't represent the majority of black America, or the majority of America.

And, secondly, I don't think it's appropriate to protest one part that he sees how through a very narrow liberal lens, when that flag stands for a whole lot more. It stands for our men and women in the service. It stands for the history of this country. It stands for how far we have come, not the incidents that he sees through that narrow lens.

I don't agree with it, but he has every right to do it, and I think probably too much attention is being given to it. That flag, I think, represents a lot more.

VARNEY: What Kaepernick had to say has been taken, I think, as being anti-Trump. But let me read for you what Kaepernick also said. And this has not reported in the media or anyplace else.

He went on to say: "We have a person running for president who, if any other person did what she did, they'd be in prison."

That has not been reported in the media at all, to my knowledge, and he said it.

CAIN: It has not.

And Donald Trump is not she. So obviously he knows what has been going on relative to Hillary Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, the e-mail scandal, the outright lies relative to what she said about the FBI director.

So, he is paying attention to some parts of what is going on in politics. That the good news. But he really does not have a good understanding, in my view, of the two black Americas, in terms of what is happening in some of these inner cities that need extra attention, not pandering, not giveaways, not free stuff. That's not what Donald Trump is all about.

VARNEY: Herman, we're that, if the vote were taken today, Donald Trump would get maybe 8 percent of the black vote.

Do you think you can get that up to 15 percent or 20 percent with this outreach program? Honestly, do you think he could?

CAIN: I honestly do, Stuart, and here's why.

I don't believe that number that says 8 percent. I happen to know from previous presidential elections some people might tell a pollster during the exit poll one thing, but they said they voted a different way.  Why?

They don't want the intimidation from some of the people around them, or even the pollsters can sometimes intimidate some of the black voters.  So they might tell them one thing, but I believe he can get it up. And here's why. Donald Trump is telling black America, blacks in these inner cities the truth. Not all of them are going to accept it and believe it once he starts to share with them these statistics. I share these statistics all the time, and you do.

I think he can get them up. I get callers all the time who say they're waking up to the hypocrisy of the Democrats. They're waking up to the failed policies of the Democrats. I believe he can significantly increase that number.

And going to some of these inner cities and going to a black church in Detroit, I think, are excellent steps to getting the facts out.

VARNEY: Herman Cain, thanks, as always, for joining us, sir.  Appreciate it. Thank you.

CAIN: My pleasure, Stuart.

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