House Republicans demand answers on Clinton investigation; Gorka: Obama lives in ISIS fantasy world

Rep. Jason Chaffetz and Rep. Bob Goodlatte discuss questions they plan to ask FBI Director James Comey and Attorney General Loretta Lynch; Reaction on 'Hannity'


This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," July 6, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, GUEST HOST: Welcome to "Hannity." The massive scandal over Hillary Clinton's use of a private e-mail server during her time as secretary of state is far from over.

I'm Eric Bolling, in for Sean tonight.

Rudy Giuliani and former attorney general Alberto Gonzales will be here later with reaction.

But first, Republicans in Congress are now demanding answers after the FBI decided not to recommend criminal charges against Hillary Clinton, despite evidence of wrongdoing. Both FBI Director James Comey and Attorney General Loretta Lynch are set to appear on Capitol Hill to answer questions about the investigation. Director Comey will testify tomorrow before the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. And Attorney General Lynch will face members of the House Judiciary Committee next week.

Joining us now are the chairmen of those committees, Utah Congressman Jason Chaffetz and Virginia Congressman Bob Goodlatte.

Jason -- Congressman Chaffetz, let's start with you. For James Comey, the question -- what's your first question? What's your most pressing question?

REP. JASON, CHAFFETZ, R-UTAH: Well, I'm not giving away the first question yet, but it should be a good hearing. We want to understand the difference in his mind between gross negligence, which is in the statute, and extremely careless.

We have questions about his findings. Obviously, what Secretary Clinton said time and time again both under oath, by the way, and in the public turned out to be not true, and so there was a lot of misleading information. We're just simply trying to expose and get to the truth.

BOLLING: So -- so Congressman, I'm sitting here thinking what would I ask the FBI director. And the first thing I would say is if -- if you laid out 10 or 15 minutes of why you should indict and you decided not to indict, what would it take and what were you looking for that would have been the trigger to say, Indict this woman?

CHAFFETZ: I do hope by the end of the hearing, we do have some more clarity on that because if you listen to the fact pattern laid out by the FBI director, you would be led to the conclusion that she did violate the law and should be prosecuted.

Certainly, the Department of Justice has prosecuted people for far less, and so that does beg the question, is there something wrong with the statute, or do -- which a lot of us have suspicion about, do the Clintons skate at a different plane on a different set of rules than your average Joe who's maybe just working for the government, trying to earn a paycheck every week?

BOLLING: All right, Representative Goodlatte, you're going to speak to Attorney General Loretta Lynch. So here's what I would want to know. Did she really think that meeting with Bill Clinton just days before this decision was coming down was a good idea and it wouldn't be perceived as a conflict of interest?

REP. BOB GOODLATTE, R-VA.: Well, we want to know the answer to that, but we also want to know the answer to the questions that I posed to Director Comey yesterday and will pose the same ones to Attorney General Lynch. And we've put those into a letter so he can look at them. In fact, I asked him yesterday -- he said those were all important questions, some of the ones you just discussed with Chairman Chaffetz, and he said we deserved answers to them. So we're looking forward to both of these hearings and getting answers to these questions...

BOLLING: Congressman...

GOODLATTE: ... particularly about the question whether or not the average government worker in this country believes that they should be held to a standard if the secretary of state and presidential candidate is not held to a standard.

BOLLING: Great questions, gentlemen. Thank you very much. You have two important meetings coming up on the Hill. Thank you very much.  Congressmen Chaffetz and Goodlatte, thank you.

All right, here with reaction are former DOJ employee and president of the Public Interest Legal Foundation J. Christian Adams, my fellow co-host of "The Five," Kimberly Guilfoyle, and host of "Justice," Judge Jeanine Pirro.

Start with you, Mr. Adams. So you're listening to that. The two gentlemen have Loretta Lynch and James Comey. They're going to raise the right hand.  I believe they're going to have to swear themselves -- they'll be sworn in, if I'm not mistaken.

What do you expect to hear from them? Do you think we will hear nothing but the truth?

J. CHRISTIAN ADAMS, FORMER DOJ EMPLOYEE: I think we'll hear nothing but the truth, but it's going to be carefully crafted and probably not tell us very much about what happened. I expect Comey will assert all of those familiar privileges against revealing any information that the Justice Department has asserted for decades. So I don't expect much to come out of these congressional hearings.

BOLLING: K.G. -- how about this, control room. Can we hear Donald Trump on Clinton whether or not there's a bribe involved. Let's take a listen to this. K.G. react to this, please.


DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: She said today that we may consider the attorney general to go forward. That's like a bribe, isn't it? Isn't that sort of a bribe?


TRUMP: I think it's a bribe! I mean, that if she wins, she's going to consider extending the attorney general. And you know what? I'm not saying -- I'm not knocking the attorney general. What I'm saying is, How can you say that? It's a bribe! I mean, the attorney general's sitting there thinking, You know, if I get Hillary off the hook, I'm going to have four more years or eight more years. But if she loses, I'm out of a job.  It's a bribe!


BOLLING: What say you, K.G.? Is he right?

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, "THE FIVE" CO-HOST: Yes, well, I had an opportunity to interview him earlier, and he said, yes, of course, he thinks the system is rigged. The fix is in. He also brought up the fact that they met on a plane, Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton, who appointed him -- he appointed her before in a position, so it really is quite a cozy relationship. It really strikes me that it's a conflict of interest.

And again, just to, you know, go back to the other comment, Director Comey saying that no reasonable prosecutor would bring this forward -- it sounds like he's inserting himself as judge, jury, and investigator all at once, and I don't think that's proper at all, especially since he just laid out the standard for why a case should be brought forward and why it did meet the statutory requirements.

BOLLING: Jeanine, you know what strikes me? When -- after these conventions, the Republican and Democratic national conventions, and the two nominees will now be presumed -- there'll be a transition period.  Like, one of them will be president, right? So they're given -- they have access to classified information.

Should we hold that back from the one who's clearly can't keep it together -- can't keep it a secret?

JEANINE PIRRO, "JUSTICE" HOST: You know what, Eric? If you follow Jim Comey's suggestion that, you know, he doesn't recommend Hillary be prosecuted, but there are consequences for people who violate these standards of conduct, then that would automatically mean that Hillary Clinton is not one that we can be comfortable giving any kind of, you know -- you know, special access information to. She is not a woman who is entitled to have or can be trusted with this kind of information!

And let me say one more thing. Jim Comey is the head of the FBI. Right now, he's a cop bringing to the DA the evidence that he has gathered. I'm the DA. A cop comes to me and says to me, Look, I don't think you should prosecute this case, I would say to him, Stay out of it. I'm the DA. I'm the one with access to the grand jury! I'll make the decision!

BOLLING: And what about that, Mr. Adams? Should Jim Comey have made that decision? I'd like to see a jury make this decision.

ADAMS: Well, of course, the judge is right in an ideal world, but this is the Obama Justice Department we're talking about. And whether it's election law or criminal law involving an election, this administration is incapable from the top to the bottom, it seems, from enforcing the law fairly.

Politics seems to drive decisions both from Loretta Lynch, but the career prosecutors might have been adverse to an indictment, also. Don't forget these career prosecutors are donating to Hillary at a rate of, like, 20 to 1 compared to Trump. So the entire department from top to bottom has an inertia against Republicans.

BOLLING: K.G., can you imagine -- the FBI reports to the DOJ, but so does the IRS. Can you imagine if you're up -- if the IRS is asking for some of your records, you say, Listen, I only have half of them, I got rid of the other half? What would happen to the average Joe?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, you'd be in big trouble and you'd get some silver bracelets. You'd probably be indicted and sentenced in five seconds. And that's the problem, and the American people are really showing a distrust of D.C., politics as usual, eight years of President Obama.

Two seconds after that announcement, they're together on the tarmac campaigning, she's at the podium with the presidential seal and on Air Force One on the taxpayer dime! If that doesn't reek of a rigged system, what does? And then you couple that with the fact that -- the nice optics of Loretta Lynch with Bill Clinton on the plane, as well, and then, of course, the decision to not prosecute -- I mean, it's really outrageous!

BOLLING: What are they saying, Judge? What are they saying for the American public, Don't look this way, we got this -- do they think we're stupid?


BOLLING: Do they think we're dumb?

PIRRO: There's nothing to see here, folks. Let me tell you what is going on, and I said this yesterday. This is a dark day for the American criminal justice system! The politicization of the Department of Justice, of the FBI -- J. Edgar Hoover is spinning in his grave!

This is -- and Kimberly is right, the optics are so clear. You have someone who owes Bill Clinton. He meets her when he knows he shouldn't meet her. FBI meets her on a day they don't normally meet her. She then says, You know what? I'm going to keep this person who has my whole career in her hands if I become president, and the next day, they're on Air Force One!

You know, the American people are not stupid. And there's only one way to handle this. Congratulations. We're having hearings tomorrow. This is a November decision, and it's up to the American public (INAUDIBLE)

BOLLING: I only have a few more seconds, Mr. Adams. What happened to intent? For months, we've heard you don't need to have intent. If you're grossly negligent, that's still indictable. But apparently, now you have to have intent. When did it change?

ADAMS: Apparently, it changed on the way to the press podium. You notice he avoided that entirely. And any -- as I said, a county DA could have prosecuted this case successfully. Apparently, we're not going to see whether our Justice Department can.


BOLLING: Great debate, you guys. Thank you so much.

Coming up next right here on "Hannity"...


RUDY GIULIANI, R-FMR. NEW YORK CITY MAYOR: As associate attorney general and as Jim Comey's boss for two or three years, I was very disappointed in him.

BOLLING: Rudy Giuliani calls out the FBI director. The former New York City mayor is here next, along with former attorney general Alberto Gonzales.

And then later...


HILLARY CLINTON, D-PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal e-mails instead of two.

JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: Secretary Clinton used several different servers.


BOLLING: A new RNC ad eviscerates Clinton for her web of lies. Austan Goolsbee and Doug Schoen weigh in. That and more as "Hannity" continues.



BOLLING: Welcome back to "Hannity." Yesterday during his statement, FBI director James Comey delivered a harsh critique of Hillary Clinton's, quote, "extremely careless" actions when it came to her using a private e- mail server, and the Trump campaign is capitalizing on the agency's scathing rebuke. Watch this.


CLINTON: I did not send or receive any information that was marked classified at the time.

JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department in 2014, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received.

CLINTON: At the time.

COMEY: At the time they were sent or received.

CLINTON: Any information that was marked classified.

COMEY: To contain classified information.

CLINTON: I did not send or receive any information that was marked classified at the time.

COMEY: Eight of those chains contained information that was top secret at the time they were sent.

CLINTON: Any information that was marked classified.

COMEY: 36 of those chains contained secret information at the time.

CLINTON: I did not send or receive any information that was marked classified at the time.

COMEY: And eight contained confidential information at the time.

CLINTON: At the time.


BOLLING: Wow! Joining us now with reaction is former U.S. attorney for the southern district of New York, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani. Mayor -- Mayor, you watch that, wow! Wow! You put them next to each other, and you really see how many times she misled the public or lied.

GIULIANI: Well, that's what you call evidence of guilt, evidence of intent, consciousness of guilt. That's the way we prove it as prosecutors.

This whole analysis that James Comey did of intent is totally erroneous.  We don't prove intent because somebody writes down, I'm going to go do an insider trade. We prove intent by the act, and then the person destroys records, the person conceals records, the person has two sets of books.  That's all the circumstantial evidence from which the judge charges the jury. You can infer that the person had the intent to commit the crime.

There are at least 16 pieces of evidence from which I could argue to a jury that she intended to commit that crime.

BOLLING: How does it make you feel when James Comey says no good prosecutor would bring a case like this? You were a prosecutor. Would you have brought this case?

GIULIANI: No good prosecutor would not bring this case, particularly the one that is a slam dunk, 18 USC section 793 subparagraph F, which makes it a crime punishable by 10 years in jail to be grossly negligent in the distribution of this material. He concluded she was extremely careless.

You know what the definition of grossly negligent is? Extremely careless.

BOLLING: Now, why do you think James Comey didn't reference the Clinton Foundation at all? I mean, some of those e-mails that he was investigating had to have a link to the Clinton Foundation, didn't they?

GIULIANI: Well, they did, as far as I know, more than one, a group of them. Maybe they continue to investigate that. I don't know.

BOLLING: Is that possible? Is this investigation ongoing with regard to maybe the Clinton Foundation?

GIULIANI: I would assume it is. He didn't say it was concluded, and the Clinton Foundation has 10, 12 major incidents in which she received -- I'm sorry, Bill Clinton received a great deal of money, the foundation received a great deal of money, and she took action to help the organization, the government, the Russian oligarch, UBS, all of them linked by time and circumstance in a way in which any good prosecutor would argue that there's no coincidence here. I don't know how many times I've argued that to juries.

BOLLING: So what do you do? You have investigators looking into all these e-mails. They've done their due diligence on this. The boss says, You know what? We're not recommending an indictment or a grand jury convene.  What do you do from there? Do you continue to deport (ph) those strings on the sweater, see if something unravels?

GIULIANI: I would. I mean, I would -- probably, if I was an FBI agent, I'd probably resign because I would feel that my agency has been really hurt by what Jim Comey did.

Look, he laid out an overwhelming case for prosecution under a number of statutes, a couple of them almost automatic. I thought for sure he was going to conclude that she should be prosecuted.

BOLLING: Why didn't he? Why didn't he...

GIULIANI: You have to ask...

BOLLING: A lot of people saying he's above reproach, but I'm looking exactly what you just said. He laid out 10, 15 minutes of why she should be prosecuted, why she should be indicted, and didn't. Why not?

GIULIANI: Well, above reproach doesn't mean you necessarily always have good judgment, all right? I mean, a lot of people are above reproach and they have very bad judgment.

BOLLING: Did he fail in judgment here?

GIULIANI: You're darn right he did. I mean, there's no way around the extremely careless equaling gross negligence, no way around it. There's no -- not even room for argument. She should be indicted under that statute, either the felony version of it or the misdemeanor version of it, which is the one Petraeus was prosecuted under. And the idea that nobody's prosecuted under -- wrong!  At least 10, 12 cases where people have been prosecuted for it.

BOLLING: I got to leave it there, but you think he blew it, huh?

GIULIANI: I have no doubt -- I have no doubt that -- I have no doubt that he did, and this is a miscarriage of justice.

BOLLING: Very good. Mayor, thank you very much.

GIULIANI: Thank you.

BOLLING: All right, joining me now with reaction, with more reaction to the FBI decision not to recommend charges against Hillary Clinton is former attorney general and dean at the Belmont University College of law, Alberto Gonzales.

Attorney General, thank you for joining us. So what do you think? Mayor Giuliani, a prosecutor, said he would have brought that. Would you have brought that if they brought -- if your FBI chief brought it to you as attorney general, would you say, we're going to indict, we're going to convene a grand jury?

ALBERTO GONZALES, FMR. ATTORNEY GENERAL: Well, I think the evidence is pretty strong. Obviously, out of fairness to the director, I would like to take a harder look at the evidence and not make a decision based solely on, you know, a 15-minute press conference.

Attorney General Gonzales and Mayor Rudy Giuliani, thank you for joining us.

Coming up next right here on "Hannity"...


CLINTON: I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal e-mails instead of two.

JAMES COMEY, FBI DIRECTOR: Secretary Clinton used several different servers.


BOLLING: The RNC releases a scathing new ad attacking Hillary Clinton and the lies she told about her private e-mail server. Austan Goolsbee and Doug Schoen react next.

Plus, a disturbing new report by the Associated Press reveals 350 people were killed by radical Islamists during the Muslim holiday of Ramadan. Dr, Sebastian Gorka and author Daniel Silva (ph) weigh in.

That and more as "Hannity" continues.



CLINTON: I thought it would be easier to carry just one device for my work and for my personal e-mails instead of two.

COMEY: Secretary Clinton used several different servers and administrators of those servers during her four years at the State Department. She also used numerous mobile devices to send and to read e-mail on that personal domain.

GIULIANI: We went through a thorough process to identify all of my work- related e-mails and deliver them to the State Department and provided all my e-mails that could possibly be work-related.

COMEY: The FBI also discovered several thousand work-related e-mails that were not among the group of 30,000 e-mails returned by Secretary Clinton.


BOLLING: Well, that was the new RNC ad exposing Hillary Clinton's lies to the American people about her private e-mail server. In another blow to the Democratic candidate, a headline from the Associated Press reads, quote, "AP fact check: Clinton e-mail claims collapse under FBI probe."

What will the political fallout be, though? Joining me now is former Obama economic adviser Austan Goolsbee and FOX News contributor and former Clinton pollster Doug Schoen.

Austan, you must be shaking your head! You must be scratching it, saying, Oh, how could this possibly happen?


BOLLING: The FBI director puts a road map of all the lies that Hillary Clinton has been giving the American people all in one 15-minute speech.  How are you going to handle that one?

GOOLSBEE: No, I was shaking my head and I was laughing and perplexing (ph) how you were able to turn the FBI director announcing that there will be no charges and that the dark cloud that had been hanging over the Clinton campaign done -- how you turned that into, This was a severe blow...


BOLLING: The last line (INAUDIBLE) say I had three things. I said here's what we did, here's what we found, here's what we recommend. Here's what we did was small. Here's what we found was really wrong, and the recommendation was, as you point out, don't indict.

Doug, let me bring you in here.


BOLLING: How bad is this for her?

SCHOEN: Well, look, this is going to hurt her in the court of public opinion. The honest and truthful recommendation or rating is one that she's been challenged on, 50, 60 percent saying she's not honest and truthful. Eric, that's only going to get worse. That headline, notwithstanding what my friend, Austan Goolsbee said, is not a good headline.

I believe, ultimately, she will be elected, and I believe that the fact that she's cleared is most important. But in the short term, look, let's be honest. Let's be real with the audience. There have been significant reports in the FBI testimony by Director Comey that directly contradict the submissions and the statements of the former secretary!

BOLLING: Austan, you're OK with that? You're OK with...


BOLLING: ... complete fabrication of what he said versus what the FBI found.

GOOLSBEE: I will say again now what I've been saying for months. And Eric, we've talked about this. And that is so long as the critics of Hillary Clinton remain the same hardened anti-Clinton, anti-Obama, anti- Bill Clinton group that amped up Benghazi, that amped up the birth certificate, that said Obama should be impeached because of his immigration issues...

BOLLING: I think she was the one who amped up...


BOLLING: But you have to ask -- I think -- I think this is the best outcome for Donald Trump. This is the best.


BOLLING: ... lies she's willing to tell...

GOOLSBEE: That's clearly not true.

BOLLING: ... and she stays as a candidate!

GOOLSBEE: Donald Trump himself has said that's not true, that Donald Trump is outraged. He can't -- he is now trying to say that the Republican FBI director is in on a rigged system conspiracy. I'm telling you, as this is concentrated among this group of people who are out to get Clinton, it remains a partisan food fight...


SCHOEN: ... supporter of Secretary Clinton will vote for her, have worked for her, and worked for Bill Clinton enthusiastically. But I'm an honest man, as well, and while I will vote for her, it is hard to look at what Director Comey said...

BOLLING: Stop, stop. I'm an honest man, she's lied, and you will vote for her.

SCHOEN: Because I think she will be a better president than Donald Trump.  I just think that. No, but let me -- let me...

BOLLING: Willing to lie to the American president is a better president?

SCHOEN: If I can finish...


GOOLSBEE: Donald Trump spent a day talking about praising Saddam Hussein!

SCHOEN: ... letting me talk. You're doing a good job talking over me!  But there were demonstrable falsehoods about classified information that she said wasn't sent that he said was sent and received. You can't ignore that, notwithstanding what your political views are. I'm not a hater, I'm a Clinton supporter, but I have problems with this!


BOLLING: But you're going to still vote for her.


BOLLING: That's what blows my mind. Hey, Austan, take a listen to Donald Trump saying, Hey, maybe there's something more involved. Listen.


TRUMP: She routinely sent classified e-mails on an insecure private server that could be easily hacked by hostile foreign agents! And we learned that people she e-mailed were hacked, and probably, I think maybe definitely, were hacked by these hostile actors. Our enemies may have a blackmail file on crooked Hillary, and this alone means that she should not be allowed to serve as president of the United States!



BOLLING: So what do you say, Austan? He makes a good point. Maybe she shouldn't...


BOLLING: ... information on the United States.

GOOLSBEE: He's delusional. This is -- he has portrayed that Director Comey is part of a conspiracy of rigging the system, just as he accused the secretary of state of the state of Hawaii...

BOLLING: Well, forget about the...

GOOLSBEE: ... of faking the birth certificate.

BOLLING: Forget about the conspiracy theory, but let's talk about this for a second. Maybe some foreign enemies of ours have hacked the system, hacked her e-mail server. Comey admitted that may have happened. Doesn't that concern you?

GOOLSBEE: It does concern me. I think Director Comey was correct, this was careless, it was a mistake, she should not have done that. Now, she herself had said that...


SCHOEN: There are still 30,000 e-mails.

BOLLING: Yes, what about those?

SCHOEN: Eric, we don't know where they are. What I worry about profoundly and really with as much concern as I can as an American is whether the Russians or the Chinese have those extra 30,000. I worry about what Director Comey said, but Eric, I remain a supporter of Secretary Clinton.  I'm not a Clinton hater.

BOLLING: I just find it so hard to believe that...

SCHOEN: Because I believe she's better qualified to be president than Donald Trump.

GOOLSBEE: Eric, you...

BOLLING: Quick thought, Austan.

GOOLSBEE: If you're not going to look at the things that Donald Trump says, including on the very day this happened Donald Trump praising...


BOLLING: ... someone who's at 70 percent and sliding disapproval rather or untrustworthy rate...


GOOLSBEE: Yet she has a higher approval rating than Donald Trump.

BOLLING: I have to leave it right there. Doug and Austan, thank you so much.

Coming up, according to a new report from the Associated Press, radical Islamists killed 350 people during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. Dr. Sebastian Gorka and author Daniel Silva will have reaction.

And then later --


TRUMP: Newt has been my friend for a long time. And I'm not saying anything and I'm not telling even Newt anything, but I can tell you in one form or another, Newt Gingrich is going to be involved with our government, that I can tell you. OK?



BOLLING: Donald Trump continues to go after Hillary Clinton hard on the campaign trail. We'll show you highlights from his rally from earlier tonight and get reaction, that and more as "Hannity" continues. Stay with us.


BOLLING: Welcome back to "Hannity." The terror threat is not going away as a new report on Islamic extremism highlights. According to the Associated Press, 350 people were killed during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, which just ended. But does President Obama understand the threat we face?  Joining me now with reaction is author of "Defeating Jihad, The Winnable War," the distinguished chair of military theory at Marine Corps University, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, and author of the new book "The Black Widow," which goes on sale next week, Daniel Silva. Start with you, Dr. Gorka. Does President Obama understand the threat, yes or no?

DR. SEBASTIAN GORKA, MARINE CORPS UNIVERSITY: Clearly, his whole administration has no idea about who the enemy is and what they wish to achieve. All we have is a bubble that wraps this administration in the cocoon that separates them from reality.

Remember, this is the administration whose deputy spokesperson for the State Department said all the Jihadis need are jobs. That's Marie Harf.  We will be safe if there are jobs for Jihadis. This is the administration that said love is our best weapon against people who slaughter Americans in nightclubs in Orlando. No, there's a reality that you and I live in, Eric, and every American, and then there's the Alice in Wonderland fantasy that the administration lives in.

BOLLING: Mr. Silva, during the month of Ramadan, I guess devout Muslims who kill jihadists, who kill nonbelievers, get extra blessings from Islam, is that right?

DANIEL SILVA, "THE BLACK WIDOW" AUTHOR: That is my understanding of it.  Can you imagine, the Islamic world has gone so badly off the rails that this is the situation we're in? Can you imagine, it's the second night of Passover, look out for the Jews, or it's Good Friday, here come those terrible Christians? It's an unbelievable month of terrorism that ISIS pulled off.

I guess I would differentiate from the learned Dr. Gorka on one aspect of what he said. I think that Obama and his administration understand the threat very, very well. They just have a different approach to it. He's telegraphed that time and time again. I mean, if you go back and look at his words, he says that ISIS can't destroy us, they can't defeat us, they don't produce anything. He told Bob Woodward very early in his administration that we could absorb another 9/11. I'm a resident of the tri-state area and Washington, D.C. We cannot absorb another 9/11.

And then after the first Paris attacks, he referred to the four Jews who were killed in the kosher supermarket as a bunch of folks who were killed in a deli.

BOLLING: So how is that understanding jihad, how is that understanding terror if he makes these statements? Clearly, he has no idea the threat level.

SILVA: He chooses at every opportunity to play down the threat, to redefine what happened.

BOLLING: That's dangerous.

SILVA: I'm not defending it.

BOLLING: I know you're not.

Dr. Gorka, what about the moderate Muslim community? Where are they? Why aren't they speaking up? What is it in the religion that prevents them from saying something, see something, say something?

GORKA: Great question. We don't have time for a theological discourse here, but one of the greatest sins in Islam is the sin of Fitna, f-i-t-n-a, and Fitna is giving the appearance that the Islamic world is not unified and you are sowing discord. So the idea one Muslim stands up and says what Abu Bakr is doing and ISIS is wrong is actually potentially a great sin for the individual doing the criticism because they are telegraphing to the world that Muslims aren't united.

So this is an actual pre-Islamic issue. It's about tribal cohesion.  It's an ancient pressure, and it really stops a lot of Muslims who would like to say something from saying something because they will be cast out as un-Islamic. This is a huge problem, Eric.

BOLLING: Mr. Silva, under President Obama, has the United States become more safe from terror or more -- under more risk from terror in the last seven and a half years?

SILVA: I think that any objective observer of the region would say that the situation is worse now than it was seven or eight years ago. From end to end, the Middle East is in chaos. ISIS has spread into several different countries.

Does ISIS have the ability to carry out a directed mass causality event in the United States? We don't know, but we don't know what we don't know. And it might be a distinction without a difference. This gentleman killed 50 people in Orlando. That is more than three suicide attackers --

BOLLING: We don't know, Mr. Silva, but we do know he did take credit and he did say he did it for al Baghdadi and ISIS. So we're going to have to leave it right there. Thank you, gentlemen, very much.

Coming up next right here on "Hannity" --


TRUMP: When you look at her decisions, when you look at the fact that she has got such bad decision making ability, when you look at what's gone on during Obama's years, look at what's going on with radical Islamic terrorism. We have a president and her, except that I sort of shamed her into it, OK, just like I shamed her into not approving TPP, but if she ever won she would approve that so fast. And that will do to you worse than what NAFTA did to you, OK?

But she has got bad judgment, and you know who said that? Bernie Sanders, that Hillary Clinton has bad judgment.


BOLLING: Donald Trump continues to hammer Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail. We'll have highlights from his rally earlier tonight and get reaction from Larry Elder and Lisa Boothe. That and more straight ahead on "Hannity."



TRUMP: I just heard the news, because it just happened, as you know, with the attorney general of the United States saying no problem.


TRUMP: No problem. No problem.

You know, I wrote out a couple of things about Hillary, crooked Hillary, crooked, so crooked.


TRUMP: She made so many false statements. Is she going to be brought before Congress or something? Is something going to happen? Is something going to happen? Because it's a disgrace.

Hillary Clinton claimed that the reason for her illegal use of a private, insecure e-mail, right, she claimed this, was that it was more convenient to use just one device. Oh. The fact is the FBI director said Hillary used several different servers, even though she said it was one, and numerous mobile devices to send and read e-mails.

In other words, Hillary's secret e-mail server existed for the reason we all know, to keep her e-mails from ever being read by the public. It had nothing to do with just wanting to use one device, OK? We understand that.  But that's not what she said. She said something very different under oath. She said something very different to everybody.

Now, by the way, how about the 33,000 e-mails that were wiped out, 33,000?  How can you do 33,000 e-mails? And it was wiped out. All right, in a testimony to Congress, Hillary Clinton said she turned over all of her related e-mails, right. She said that. I saw that. The FBI director said Hillary failed to turn over several thousand work-related e-mails, including e-mails that were classified, right? Rigged system, folks.

Remember I used to say it, I'm the one that brought that word up. Now everybody's using it. Bernie Sanders is rightfully using it, because, honestly, what they did with him was not good, not good.

Now we have false statement number three, and there are many, I just don't want to bore you with too many of these, because, you know, one of those things. In her testimony to Congress, Hillary Clinton said there was nothing more classified on my e-mails either sent or received. Right? She said that. I heard it. You heard it. We all heard it.

The FBI director said Hillary had sent or received more than 100 e-mails with classified information, including e-mails with confidential secret and top secret information. That's what they said. But she didn't say that.

Hillary said fact number four, these are all lies. We say lie, lie, lie, lie -- lie! Dirty rotten liar.


BOLLING: That was Donald Trump earlier tonight at a rally in Ohio. Trump continues to hammer Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail. With so much at stake come November, who will voters choose? Joining us now is Salem Radio nationally syndicated host Larry Elder, and "Washington Examiner" contributor Lisa Boothe. Let's start with you, Larry. What do you think?  Donald Trump, he's got this thing now, he's got this Loretta Lynch thing that he could actually use against Hillary Clinton if he wants to.  

LARRY ELDER, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Absolutely, he ought to hammer, hammer, hammer. And I would recommend Donald Trump also hammer her defenders and the media. I'm old enough to remember Richard Nixon. Like Hillary, Richard Nixon lied to the public. Like Nixon, we assume, destroyed evidence. She deleted email, didn't turn over information. Unlike Nixon, she was under oath when she told the Benghazi committee that she turned over all relevant information.

And still her defenders are defending her. The media is not asking the questions. They're going after Donald Trump's characterization of James Comey have having, quote, "offered a bribe, been offered a bribe," close quote, as opposed to talking about the rule of law and the fact she subjected our country to the risk of terrorists getting into her e-mail.  Comey says there is no proof she was hacked but there certainly is evidence that the people to whom she sent her e-mails had been hacked. So methods, secrets, practices, individuals could have been in the hands of the bad guys, and people could have died. That ought to be what we're talking about here, and Donald Trump is hammering that and should.

BOLLING: Lisa, what about -- so Hillary Clinton has a 70 percent untrustworthy rating anyway, so it's pretty hard to go up from that, or down from that depending on your perspective. But what Trump is lacking, he needs women to come back and he needs Hispanics to come back. How does he use this scandal to get some of those groups to come to him?

LISA BOOTHE, WASHINGTON EXAMINER CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think he should be continuing to talk about this rigged system that so many Americans feel. I really think that there is this under current of anger with American voters right now that the main stream media is missing, that the Hillary Clinton campaign is missing, and Donald Trump speaks to that. And whether it was the FBI failure to bring charges against Hillary Clinton, which is emblematic of that rigged system, or even looking at the economy and the fact that the rich have gotten richer under President Obama and the middle class families are falling further behind. Donald Trump should continue to talk about this rigged system where the rich, where the elite, where the well-connected continue to get ahead and the middle class families, the everyday voter is falling farther behind.

BOLLING: I'll tell you what, Larry, the other thing Donald Trump has really resonated these organic following started from him being the outsider. He always portrayed himself, I'm not on the inside. When you look at an FBI director getting together with the attorney general and letting the candidate off the hook, I've got to say, that is about as inside as you can get.

ELDER: I agree. And to follow up on Lisa's point, I haven't seen this amount of evidence pointing to guilt since the O.J. Simpson case. You're talking about a woman who has lied repeatedly, lied to the committee, lied to the public. The FBI director says that her e-mail was marked classified despite the fact that she said over and over again she never sent or received classified information let alone marked information, and still she escapes. It's an outrage, and Donald Trump ought to talk about --  

BOLLING: Are you saying, Larry, are you saying if the e-mail servers don't fit you must acquit?


ELDER: Something like that.

BOLLING: All right, Lisa, so let me let you get back to the question I asked you prior. Women and Hispanic, let's say Hispanics first, they need to come back. Don't they also feel offended when the see the system as rigged as it is, because, frankly, they've had those glass ceilings rigging the system against them as well?

BOOTHE: They do, Eric. And they care about jobs and the economy. And the reality is that we've seen a lot of loss of jobs under President Obama.  And as I mentioned before, the rich have gotten richer under President Obama and the middle class is falling further behind. So I think that is a powerful message.

Even looking at Obamacare, guess who has gotten ahead? It's crony capitalism. It's the big hospitals. It's the big insurance companies that have gotten richer because of it. And it's middle class families that are paying double digit insurance premiums, and they're feeling that pain at the pocketbook. So these are issues that American voters care about, that women care about, that Hispanics care about as well.

BOLLING: No doubt. A lot of time to talk about the economy, jobs, and all that, but right now if he can just continue to hammer her on this untrustworthy and not transparent, corrupt Hillary Clinton. We're going to leave it right there.

Coming up, we need your help with tonight's "Question of the Day." Stay with us.


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." It's time for tonight's "Question of the Day." Does Hillary Clinton owe the American people an apology for lying about her server scandal? Head over to Facebook.com/SeanHannity and Twitter and let us know what you think.

And don't forget to check out my new book, "Wake Up America, The Nine Virtues that Made Our Nation Great and Why We Need Them More than Ever." With Election Day fast approaching, this is a great read for you and your whole family.

And finally, one last note before we go tonight. We'd like to wish a happy 70th birthday to the 43rd president of the United States George W. Bush.

And that is all we have time left for this evening. We'll see you back right here tomorrow night.

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