Reporter: FBI ordered 'no pictures' of Lynch-Clinton meeting

Claims both sides went to great lengths to keep meeting out of the press


This is a rush transcript from "The Five," July 1, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: This is a Fox News alert, ISIS claiming responsibility for yet another terror attack, this time in Bangladesh. A hostage situation is currently under way. Nine armed men stormed a restaurant popular with foreigners. They were reportedly armed with guns and explosives, two officers were killed by the attackers, and of course, the world is on high alert following the attacks in Turkey; this incident -- another soft target. Chief Intelligence Correspondent Catherine Herridge is here with the very latest, Catherine?

CATHERINE HERRIDGE, CHIEF INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: Well, thank you, Kimberly. As you mentioned this afternoon, the claim of responsibility from ISIS posted by the terror group's media organization, the Amaq News Agency, the claims said ISIS commandos are responsible for attack at the restaurant at Dhaka at Bangladesh. Eyewitness report the gun men shouting "Allahu Akbar" which translates as "God is great," as they took more than 30 people hostage with guns and explosives at the bakery in the diplomatic district of Dhaka. At this hour, SWAT teams are preparing to move in on a restaurant. Earlier, the State Department spokesman said the Americans who live there are accounted for, but the situation is highly fluid.


JOHN KIRBY, STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON: We have a hundred percent accountability for American citizens that are working under the Chief of Mission authority and we're continuing to work on the accountability of others and we're continuing to stay in touch with Bangladeshi authorities.


HERRIDGE: Since early 2015, the Islamic state has really upped the tempo of attacks in Bangladesh from targeted assassinations of business and religious leaders to places of worship. Taking over a restaurant, though, is a real departure. They are engaged in the fight for supremacy with the al-Qaeda affiliate in Bangladesh. And in the recent ISIS online magazine, there's an interview with the group's leader there. So given the media attention the group is getting now, and the scale of today's attack, and there's quick claim of responsibility, analysts say it shows you that this region is now a high priority for ISIS in Iraq and Syria. Kimberly.

GUILFOYLE: All right. Thank you so much, Catherine.

HERRIDGE: You're welcome.

GUILFOYLE: Catherine bringing up a great point, Eric, because there is sort of this battle for supremacy and jihad in that region. This is an area that has been under siege recently by an al-Qaeda affiliate, AQIS. And so this is interesting because now you have ISIS trying to put a strong hold and by having a significant jihad presence in this area, claiming responsibility, relatively earl, and as Catherine points out, a unique or rather novel target for them in terms of this restaurant.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: Wait, wait. This just in, President Obama says the JV team, ISIS is on the run and we're beating them and this -- oh, and John Kerry says he's going to go to Bangladesh with Bob Dylan and sing a song, make everything good again. I'm --

GUILFOYLE: You forget the YouTube video.

BOLLING: Too soon? No. Not too soon. The point is -- yeah, and a YouTube --

GUILFOYLE: YouTube video.

BOLLING: Not too soon because -- now they're every day, which is in every week there's another, there's another terrorist attack. OK, so it is not here, I get it, but when are they going to start coming here? We know they want to. Importantly, we said here after, after Istanbul and we said, was it ISIS or not? It looks like ISIS but they didn't claim responsibility. They're true. Hey, they did this, they claimed responsibility immediately. Istanbul, they said it would, they didn't claim it and it's Chechens into our -- saying that they're -- what? Part of ISIS, but --

JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: Yes, was it --

BOLLING: But we don't know if they are.

WILLIAMS: They say now is that they were trained, that there -- it was set- up by ISIS, although the Chechens were the ones who executed the terror, but .


WILLIAMS: . ISIS is still implicated in the Turkish airport attack. I think it's very interesting, though, on this case, as you were pointing out, very quickly they take responsibility officially in the other situation, less. So I'm wondering if it is because what they want to do is keep the Turkish government focused on the Kurds and the thinking that the Kurds maybe involved, but it's ISIS. ISIS is fingerprint according to the experts all over both this attack and what happened in Turkey.

GUILFOYLE: And you bring up a great point, because they do not actually, traditionally, they do not claim .

WILLIAMS: Quick claim.

GUILFOYLE: . you know responsibility in that area in Turkey. It's more inflicted nuanced relationship, because Turkey allows them to access their hospitals for their wounded fighters and Turkey is also buying Iraqi oil sold by ISIS, so it's complex. Go ahead Greg.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Well now, I was going to say, the fingerprints are when they yell "Allahu Akbar." That's the fingerprint, it's not --

GUILFOYLE: Which they did.

GUTFELD: It is not a hint. I mean this is, it's not Hare Krishna, it's not scientologists, it's not Westboro; it's a radical Islamic take of a religion. It's a version of (inaudible). So, the point is, when you bring up the Chechenyans and the Russians and ISIS, you need to address this as an idea and not as a religion, because religion creates a protection that it doesn't deserve. If you said it wasn't a religion, and it was intolerant, and homophobic, and kills gays, and throws some other, and does horrible things to women, you wouldn't tolerate it. So just because it is a religion, it doesn't mean that it has -- it's afforded in some kind of immune bubble or some kind of protection. I think, you know, it goes back to the fact that we are very scared of appearing Islamophobic. When in fact, by not differentiating Islam -- Islamism from Islam, we were actually conflating the two, and actually insulting the religion. And each, the other interesting thing about this is no one ever gets less radicalized, they just get older or they die. You know?

BOLLING: Can I add something?

GUILFOYLE: Or they switch groups.

BOLLING: You point something out the other day, and (inaudible) said, during Ramadan, maybe we would shorten the time of Ramadan, but they do, the terror attacks do step up in Ramadan. It is important for people to realize, even be more vigilant during this time, because apparently you get -- I don't know, more virgins or something if you, if you're a martyr in Ramadan?

WILLIAMS: No, but they call, they call for it. They said it in their propaganda. They said let's have more attacks during Ramadan.


WILLIAMS: So it's very clear.

GUILFOYLE: Well, and this is coming before the end of Ramadan. So, of course, it is very timing. You see this close on the heels -- yes, of Turkey and the attack in the U.S. in Orlando and obviously that one proceeded again on U.S. soil by San Bernardino. So there has been a flurry of activity and specifically ISIS had called for in 2015, and their magazines to up, you know, increase the amount of attacks in this area, in Bangladesh. So you see that kind of coming to fruition, so this is something they have to keep a close eye on. The other concern is those that are in the diplomatic area, because this is a diplomatic region, those who work for the U.S. State Department, the embassy there, they've accounted for all the private, you know, the employees there, but what about the American citizens, Jedediah, or anyone else that might be over there traveling.

JEDEDIAH BILA, GUEST CO-HOST: Yeah, you know, I see these stories and it is not getting, it's not getting better. It's getting worse. It seems like every day we wake up and we have to deal with this. And I just - - where are we? Where is American leadership? I don't know what we should be doing. I'm not a military strategist. But it seems like that there is a huge vacuum here and there has been as of late in terms of American leadership on this issue. And to me it looks like ISIS is empowered. It looks like all of these regions that you look at, and including homegrown terrorism. The problem is getting worse. Somebody has gonna have to step up to the plate and change the dynamic here, and that is usually us. That is usually America that steps up and then people come behind. And I'm not calling for troops on the ground or boots on the ground everywhere, but there has to be some kind a long-term strategy to address this, unless people want to wake up every day and read stories like this, because this is what it is coming to. You wake up every day and you hear about some innocent people that are either being held hostage or killed or .

BOLLING: Or beheaded and then go back to .

BILA: . living in fear of their lives.

BOLLING: . golf course right after.

BILA: Exactly.

BOLLING: And you failed to mention Islamic terror, because you'll going to offend somebody, and you know the fear is that if you offend a certain group, so Muslims, then they will become radicalized and kill, want to kill you more -- no.

BILA: Yeah.

BOLLING: They want to kill us.

BILA: And politically --

BOLLING: And they have a plan to kill as many Americans, like westerners, as they can.


GUTFELD: This was actually derailed youth. Remember, that who's -- that's what they did.

GUILFOYLE: That's what they said.

GUTFELD: Derailed youth are teenagers hanging out at the mall, smoking weed. People is bursting into a restaurant and taking hostages and killing police.

BILA: Yup.

GUTFELD: Those are terrorists. And by the way, almost all terrorists are young because the guys who are older are smart enough not to put their lives on the line. They get these young guys and have the young guys do it, so youth is not an excuse.

BOLLING: And also, and also --

BILA: Yeah, and a hate crime also .

BOLLING: It's been --

BILA: . to label everything to what it is.

BOLLING: It's been has been very warm in that part of the world.

GUTFELD: Yeah, it's true.

BOLLING: And climate change is clearly the root cause of terrorism .


BOLLING: . according to liberals -- Obama .

WILLIAMS: Oh, it's not --

BOLLING: . or Sanders.


WILLIAMS: You know I'm just listening to you guys and I think, wait a second, just yesterday, we were celebrating that fact that the United States government killed 250 members of ISIS. And we just celebrate that?

GUTFELD: Yes, because --


WILLIAMS: I'm just saying. I'm just saying -- in other words, when we say, what is the United States doing? We always want to blame the ISIS --

BILA: Yeah, but that's not a strategy. That's not a strategy.

WILLIAMS: United States is active and aggressive.

BILA: That's not a strategy.

WILLIAMS: But no --

BILA: So, 250 people are dead. That's not a strategy.

WILLIAMS: If you --

BILA: The strategy is how do we look -- create something long-term that is going to eradicate this problem. And this is what we do, Juan, that you're right, we take little pockets out and air strikes here. And oh, let's arm these people. And they may or may not use the arms against us, so we don't, we don't research it well. And we don't know who we're helping. Somebody with a brain and some common sense need to get in there and figure out what to do with this because this is going to be on our backyard, it's already been here. We lived through 9/11. We know what this looks like. Somebody better wake up who knows what they're doing in terms of military strategy and do more than just take out 200 here and there.

WILLIAMS: Well, I think -- well, first of all, let me say a lot of people think that we're not being sufficiently aggressive on the ground in terms of the battle. I --

GUTFELD: I agree.

WILLIAMS: I think that we are, but I understand, and the question of do we put troops on the ground comes in. But Greg, I think who is, by the way, the guy we rely on as our American genius for military issues Greg said, I think something very interesting which is, it is an ideology, take away the religious cover, it's an ideology.


WILLIAMS: So Jedediah, the question is how do you comb at an ideology that is so poisonous and so anti-civilization. It's not just anti-us, it is anti-the French. Anti-the people in Belgium that .


WILLIAMS: . that KG was talking about it, anti-people in, as we see today .

GUTFELD: Progress.

WILLIAMS: . some Muslim world .

BILA: Yeah.

WILLIAMS: . who believe in progress.

BILA: Everyone has to come together, I agree. This has -- this is not just going to be an American issue to resolve, but something happens historically when American leads, is what I'm saying. And you have a president who -- Eric, you know, led talking about this. There is just no leadership. People look at us and say what is the United States doing? That's a fact. People around the world look and say, what is America doing? And often times come and they join hands with us. And that absence, I think, has not helped matters.

BOLLING: Can I answer your question.


BOLLING: What can we do?

WILLIAMS: Please, yeah.

BOLLING: And bring in something that Greg said earlier. Here's what we can do, President Obama can, instead of being afraid of insulting Muslims or afraid of having a negative connotation of something he says towards Islam, he can go and say, if you're a moderate Muslim in the United States of America and you know something, you better say something or we're going to go after you, too. Instead of this pussy-footing around, tip toeing going, oh, I don't want to offend them. They might get mad. And, you know, I'm a decent as a xenophobers (ph), xenophobe -- Islamophobe.

WILLIAMS: But that's not the, but that's not really going to solve the question (inaudible).

BOLLING: You call out for moderate Muslims and say .

WILLIAMS: Fine, fine.

WILLIAMS: You're sitting back. Americans are dying.

WILLIAMS: I think we -- it's not only .


WILLIAMS: I think we are on -- we monitor them, we get involved with all this. I don't think this is not taking place. It's not like we have dumb people behind this --

BOLLING: Afraid to profile.

GUTFELD: Well, I mean (inaudible). The one thing you could do that a lot people haven't, haven't ever brought up is, why not talk about creating a more moderate form of religion, for I'm trying to educate radicals out of radicalization, because in all religions the most extreme are the most dangerous -- in any religion. If you want to go back to Christianity, it's the people that are the most extreme that are the most dangerous. There has to be a path created to pull people along and say, OK, you're young and you want to go this way -- go this way. That, and I don't think we -- I don't think we know how to do that.

BOLLING: Is there another alternative? Is there a -- is there a reformed kind of --


BOLLING: In Jew --

GUTFELD: They're trying.

BOLLING: Today, all religions, there is a reformed Jew, right? So you have a fundamental -- a hard core, fundamental Jews. And then there is reformed. Where is the --


BOLLING: Reformed moderate Muslims.


WILLIAMS: It has some moderate Muslims.

BOLLING: No, no, no.

WILLIAMS: If the question that --

BOLLING: No, but --

WILLIAMS: That Greg is saying .

BOLLING: But you can go --


BOLLING: You can go to reformed temple.

GUILFOYLE: All right.

BOLLING: You can go to --

WILLIAMS: OK. Well, I just think you got a deal with the bad ones and that's the question --

BOLLING: The born gain, Christian. Where is the, born again reformed for --

GUTFELD: I guess the point is --


BOLLING: . of Muslim, though.

GUTFELD: The Old Testament was pretty scary.


GUTFELD: The New Testament not so scary. That is where they got to go. They got to start moving that way.

GUILFOYLE: Al right, that's fascinating. All right, we're going to continue to monitor the situation and bring you any breaking news developments as they happen. But up next, today's another top story, the fall out continues for Loretta Lynch after her secret meeting with President Clinton. Today, she went on the defensive. What she said about that encounter when "The Five" returns.


GUILFOYLE: The fall out intensifies after Attorney General Loretta Lynch's private meeting with Bill, with Bill Clinton. Lynch has increased pressure to step aside from the investigation, into Hillary Clinton use of a private e-mail server as secretary of state. Now earlier today, Lynch addressed the controversy.


LORETTA LYNCH, UNITED STATES ATTORNEY GENERAL: Certainly my meeting with him raises questions and concerns. And so, believe me, I completely get that question, but it really was a social meeting. President Clinton does not have a bearing on how these matters are going to be reviewed, resolved and accepted by me. I certainly wouldn't do it again.


LYNCH: And, you know, because I think it has cast a shadow over what it should not, over what it will not touch.


GUILFOYLE: In another bombshell development, Lynch announced she will defer to the FBI and career prosecutors on whether to press charges against Clinton after the e-mail investigation is completed.


LYNCH: They will make recommendations as to how to resolve what those facts lead to. Those -- the recommendations will be reviewed by career supervisors and the Department of Justice and then the FBI and by the FBI director. And then, as is the common process, they present it to me and I fully expect to accept their recommendations. Recusal would mean I wouldn't be briefed on what those findings were. And while I don't have a role in those findings, I'll be briefed on it and I will be accepting their recommendations.


GUILFOYLE: And the outrage, the outcry from both sides of defense, democrats, and from republicans, and legal scholars alike is only growing, intensifying at this hour. Eric, you're hosting a one hour special tonight in prime time .


GUILFOYLE: . in for "Hannity" on this.

BOLLING: Deep diving into everything about this (inaudible) yourself, who beyond that Jedediah is gonna be on the win. We'll talk a lot about what she means when she says, I fully -- well, I certainly wouldn't do it again. That is kind of interesting, almost implicates herself on that one. Why would President Clinton wait for Loretta Lynch's plane -- 30 minutes, wait for it to land so he could board to talk about his kid for 30 years -- grandchild for 30 minutes? This is so -- this, this stinks. This stinks to high heaven. Yesterday I said it didn't seem like much.

GUILFOYLE: And what did I say?

BOLLING: And I've said --


BOLLING: Yeah, you did, to pull back the layers of the onion. You see, there is so much going on. I think she came out and said this today, because of the FBI outrage. FBI agents are furious that she is corrupting their investigations.

GUILFOYLE: And yes. And Bret Baier, you know, reporting that and sending some information about that as well, about the outrage. You can imagine just like compromising, Greg, an investigation you've been working on for quite some time, has not just of Hillary Clinton, it is also of the Clinton Foundation which directly connects and relates to Bill Clinton who also, by the way, previously appointed Loretta Lynch in a U.S. attorney position --

GUTFELD: It all goes back to Bill. I feel bad. I think he thought it was Jeffery Epstein's jet.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, that's it.


GUTFELD: And he was interested in --


GUTFELD: He was interested in joining the sea level club. Those are for guys who are too late to do the Mile-High Club. The plane never leaves. Look, I wonder --

GUILFOYLE: He can't.

GUTFELD: I wonder if Hillary knew what Bill was doing, because if he was -- he was probably like, trying to help her out. She probably just bought a case of lamps just to throw at him. And he is going to need secret service protection against her because, she did not need this.

GUILFOYLE: By the way, at all .


GUILFOYLE: So once again, Bill finds himself in the doghouse, Jedediah.

BILA: Yeah, exactly.

GUTFELD: He's the kennel.



BILA: You know I think it exposes the Clintons for who they are. I think they feel that there is one set of rules for everybody else and then one set of rules for them. You know, they're not stupid. Bill Clinton doesn't think we're all stupid sitting here and thinking, oh, two investigations underway and he is on there talking about his grandkids and golf -- no. He knows that we know that something messed up is going on. He just thinks that we're going to let him get away with it, because that is what they do. So the message to people, I think is if this is who you want in the White House, is this -- this is the kind of behavior you want, then elect Hillary Clinton, because I don't believe at all that she has no knowledge of this. It's ridiculous. Even assume that. Of course she had knowledge of this. I mean, it's insane but, but this is what you're getting. You're getting people who feel they're above the law. And that's just I don't -- I think people --



WILLIAMS: Wow, wow.

GUILFOYLE: . what about the --

BILA: Juan, you don't know where to start.


WILLIAMS: I don't know where to start because you say -- now you're saying Hillary Clinton knew about the --

BILA: I'm sure she --

WILLIAMS: Oh my God.

BILA: You don't think Hillary Clinton knew about this?

WILLIAMS: I know that --

BILA: Oh, you don't give enough credit.

WILLIAMS: Well, well, let me just say, I think part of the news here is that today, you heard the attorney general say she doesn't know when the investigation will be done. Well, part of the thinking from people who are inside this is, we are very close to the convention. And at this point, it makes it unlikely that any indictment is going to be forth coming because it will be seen as such a political bombshell at this point. But to say that she doesn't know when it is coming, even now, suggests that it can actually go beyond the conventions, closer to the -- I just -- wow, that talk about politically explosive. Now I don't believe that Hillary Clinton knew about this.


WILLIAMS: I don't believe that.


WILLIAMS: I don't know what on what basis would make that statement. But I do think that, you know, the best I can do is I'm trying to understand and not say, oh, you guys are up to the normal conspiracy stuff, is that I think Bill Clinton was engaged, and what someone I read is called a charm offensive. Well, you don't really have to --

GUILFOYLE: Yes. I read that too.

WILLIAMS: You don't have to discuss the specifics; you can just ingratiate yourself to the person .



WILLIAMS: . who is in charge of making the final call. And the way I think .


WILLIAMS: . that's a rational --


GUTFELD: But you know what it is, Kimberly?

GUILFOYLE: Who do you think (inaudible) appointed by the way.

GUTFELD: Kimberly, but it's not like --

GUILFOYLE: Don't forget who put you there.

GUTFELD: It's like parents .


GUTFELD: . who go to the Little League coach to talk about their kids. They just say, you know, maybe you can play them a little more. But she -- but Bill is like going, you know, maybe you can, you know, just layoff her, you know. It doesn't have to be that bad, you know, it's --

BILA: Right.

GUTFELD: He tried just to make it nice a little --

GUILFOYLE: Back off .

GUTFELD: But he screwed up.

GUILFOYLE: . until mid-November, something like that.

GUTFELD: By the way, her answer was amazing when (inaudible) said .


GUTFELD: What were you thinking?


GUTFELD: She said, that's the question .


GUTFELD: . and then she didn't answer it.


BOLLING: I think he had President -- former president like Bill Clinton wants to board the plane, you let the guy board the plane .

WILLIAMS: Oh yeah.

BOLLING: Especially to democrats. KG --

WILLIAMS: No, or anybody.

BOLLING: Eric Holder, Mukasey .

GUILFOYLE: He's not used to know.

BOLLING: . Janet Reno, they've all recuse themselves on high profile cases. They will be investigated -- investigated. Why doesn't she?

GUILFOYLE: Well, right. That way there is no kind -- kind of even air of impropriety, no idea of collusion. I mean, first of all, he disappointed her. He got her started out. She wouldn't even have this top position -- no, in a nice way.

WILLIAMS: No, no --

GUILFOYLE: We all know who helped us out, give a job, you feel beholden to that person to say they really helped me get my start .

WILLIAMS: OK, all right.

GUILFOYLE: . in the position of prominence and importance. And why would you even ever agree? There was obviously plenty of time to contemplate and think about what they were going to do. He knows better. He is an attorney. She is the head top dog for the Justice Department -- bad news, that's why the story is still living, breathing. This story doesn't end here. Yeah, because wait until you hear the length both sides went to keep this meeting out of the press -- no photos, people. The shocking details from the reporter who broke this story; you're going to hear from him when "The Five" returns.


WILLIAMS: The local Phoenix reporter who broke the story, the private meeting between Attorney General Lynch and President Clinton, said they tried to keep the meeting conversation hidden from the press.


CHRISTOPHER SIGN, KNXV-TV ANCHOR: She, as a matter of fact, to landed on time. He and his entourage were running late, according to my sources, they then make the decision. They, meaning the president's team, former president's team, they wait for her to land. She arrives. Some people step off of her plane. The former president steps into her plane, they then speak for 30 minutes, privately. The FBI there, on the tarmac, instructing everybody around -- no photos, no pictures, no cell phones .


WILLIAMS: Now, the question is, does the attorney general have to accept the findings of the FBI? Now I think in the -- as a matter of pragmatic politics, I think if you get the FBI director saying, "Oh, yes. I think that Secretary Clinton should be indicted." I don't see how she turns away, but today she announced that she is ready to, basically accept whatever recommendation comes from the FBI and senior prosecutors at the Justice Department. Is there any reason to doubt this?



BOLLING: It's her --

WILLIAMS: Go ahead.

BOLLING: And her wording.


WILLIAMS: Why? Why did you say that?

BOLLING: She said fully expect to accept.


BOLLING: It doesn't mean I will, clearly different wording than I will accept it.

WILLIAMS: You guys are so deep into conspiracy theories.

GUILFOYLE: No, we're into reality.




GUTFELD: Can I talk about --

GUILFOYLE: Words matter.


GUTFELD: Telling a reporter to keep a secret is exactly how you want it to get out. I, I think this is all done on purpose. Bill Clinton is a genius. They want to get her recuse so they have -- it takes months and months .

GUILFOYLE: Waste of time.

GUTFELD: . to get a special prosecutor. It's like -- they deliberately peed in the pool to get everyone out.

BOLLING: Was she onboard, though?

GUILFOYLE: That happened.

BOLLING: Was she onboard with it then?

GUTFELD: I don't know.

BILA: Yes.

GUILFOYLE: Because I said --


BILA: I mean --

GUTFELD: They are all in it. It's an inside job.

BILA: What do you mean?

WILLIAMS: Well, now, there are two -- there are two news reports out there that are of interest to me. One is the suggestion that Hillary Clinton will talk to the FBI on Saturday.

GUILFOYLE: Saturday.

GUTFELD: Is that for real?

WILLIAMS: I don't know. That's why I said, it was -- there's a report today. The second is that Judicial Watch, which started so much of this, now wants the Justice Department inspector general to conduct a probe of the attorney general, Loretta Lynch. Either of these resonate with you?

GUTFELD: Bill loves a probe, by the way.


BILA: I'd like to know what they talked about. I don't really hold -- my instinct is to not hold Loretta Lynch responsible for this. My gut just tells me this wasn't her idea, but she...

GUILFOYLE: It doesn't matter. She's equally responsible.

BILA: She shouldn't have done it. But I think this is orchestrated from the Clintons, for sure. I think this is Bill trying to, you know...

BOLLING: Bill being Bill.

BILA: Bill being Bill!

BOLLING: I can go with that.

BILA: I think that is what happened here! Yes, that's true.

GUTFELD: So Bill is up and out of his path (ph).

WILLIAMS: Of his path, his path. But why do you say break -- what law was broken here?

BOLLING: Not necessarily breaking the law but certainly overstepping what would be an appearance of impropriety. Right?

WILLIAMS: Well, I think that's what -- what you make of it.

GUILFOYLE: No, but these are the legal rules in terms of conflict of interest or recusing. And let me tell you something: someone could be disbarred for this. It is so improper.

If I was trying a case, and I go and have an ex-parte communication with a judge or I talk to a juror -- this would happen all the time. I go in the bathroom. One of the jurors follows you in during the break. They try to talk to you. They're like chatting you up, the whole thing. And let me tell you, there have been in particular, a few men kicked off my juries, because they try to talk, they try to communicate.

GUTFELD: They didn't follow you into the bathroom.

GUILFOYLE: No, the women.

WILLIAMS: With the trans law...

GUTFELD: They can!

BILA: So many jokes.

GUILFOYLE: Now it is more challenging. Yes.

WILLIAMS: This is not a judge. I mean, this is a former president of the United States.

GUILFOYLE: No, it's the same rule.

WILLIAMS; And he walks on to a plane.

GUILFOYLE: Juan, it's even worse.

WILLIAMS: According to the report, he waited on her plane to land.

BILA: She should have told him to leave.

GUILFOYLE: And there is enough time to go maybe this is going to be the lead story on all the news networks, because it's inappropriate. I mean, it's not even a close call. This is, like, law school flunk out 101 that you know you can't do this.

WILLIAMS: I think -- I think, you know, like most human beings, a former president of United States walks onto your plane. And you say, "Wow! Hello, Mr. President."


GUILFOYLE: That is not what that means.

BOLLING: Better question, why does the president wait for Loretta Lynch? What in the world is so important -- hold on. Is it so important for President Clinton to talk to the attorney general about his grandson?

WILLIAMS: No, he wanted to -- look, let me take Bill Clinton's position here. He wanted to meet Loretta Lynch!

BOLLING: Get out of here.

GUILFOYLE: This is a great story. Greta sent out two fantastic e-mails about this. Tonight she's going to talk more about it at 7. And Bolling has a special at 10.

BOLLING: "Judicial Watch" is...

WILLIAMS: The conspiracy, the conspiracy.

GUTFELD: Juan, maybe they're in love.

WILLIAMS: Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton?

GUILFOYLE: We're out of time. We're out of time. Now you've angered the control room.

WILLIAMS: Directly ahead, watch what happens when some Americans are quizzed about why we celebrate July Fourth.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When Jesse Ventura, John Wilkes Booth and the other Founding Fathers signed the Declaration of Independence, what year was that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 1970 -- sorry. 1870 something, but I don't remember the specific year.


WILLIAMS: Holy moly. We'll have that and a lot more in "The Fastest Seven," up next.

GUILFOYLE: Was that Jesse?


BOLLING: All right, welcome back. Time for that.


GRAPHIC: Fastest 7


BOLLING: "The Fastest Seven Minutes on Television." Three pithy stories, seven pressing minutes, one patriotic host.

First up, the saying goes if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. That may be true for one celebrity chef, who's stirring up some controversy. Donald Trump and Michael Symon won't be breaking bread any time soon. He has banned the presumptive nominee from dining at any of his Cleveland restaurants during the RNC.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell me about the parties you have planned for the Republican convention. Who's coming in? Is the Donald going to sit down. You're going to pair him up with a threesome? How is this going to go down?

MICHAEL SYMON, CHEF/RESTAURANTEUR: Dude, there's not a chance I let him into one of my restaurants.


SYMON: Anybody that knows me knows I'm not afraid to speak my mind. So there's that. But this isn't a Democratic/Republican thing, trust me. It's just that he creeps me out.


BOLLING: What do you think, K.G.? Go ahead.

GUILFOYLE: I don't know. I think he can eat, like, you know, fine cuisine on his plane and not worry about this guy. Like are you kidding me? What a loser. This guy should be, like, saying, "Hey, it would be nice to have someone who's running for president that's the nominee dine in the restaurant." Guess what? It's good for business, and you will get press if that's what you care about it.

GUTFELD: No way. He got it from Trump. Every time Trump gets mad at somebody, "He says don't watch FOX News anyone. Don't shop at Macy's." He just learned it from Donald. It trickles down.

GUILFOYLE: OK. Well, the point is, if anybody goes in there like that Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump have dinner there, it's going to be press worthy. And if you have investors in your restaurant, they might be excited.

WILLIAMS: You know, so I live in Washington D.C., and Jose Andres who was going to put a restaurant in the new Trump hotel, he said, "No, I'm not doing it. I don't want to do business with the guy, don't like this guy." Exactly the sentiment -- not Republican, not Democrat -- but the same sentiment expressed by Michael Symone [SIC] in Cleveland. Don't want him.

BOLLING: Jedediah, maybe it would be good for business if Donald Trump showed up at that restaurant. Even if you don't like the guy.

BILA: This is just dumb...

GUILFOYLE: That's what I'm saying.

BILAL: ... because you're offending people who like Donald Trump. But then there's going to be people who support Trump who say, "Well, I don't want to go to your restaurant, because you banned Donald Trump."

I don't know why business owners don't just welcome everybody. Come on in. Like have a feast, enjoy yourself.

GUTFELD: Like bakers?

BOLLING: Have Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

BILA: Yes. Yes.

BOLLING: Have Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the restaurant at the same time.

BILA: Like bakers, I agree. Bake the cake.

GUILFOYLE: Money is universal. We like the color green.

BOLLING: Start out what they order.

Up next, a major Fourth of July fail. Check out this cringe-worthy video of Americans trying to answer a simple question: Why do we celebrate the Fourth of July?




DICE: From -- a country...

Step in here at any time. Which country was that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: History was not my subject. I slept through that class.

DICE: Name two of the Founding Fathers of the United States.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, man, you had to start there, huh?

DICE: What year was the Declaration of Independence signed?


DICE: Come on, man!

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Off my head, I don't know.


BOLLING: A tiny tip to those in that video this weekend. You may want to put down the suntan lotion and pick up a book, instead.

GUILFOYLE: "Wake Up, America"!

GUTFELD: I'm like, Jesse Watters should sue. He's got an impersonator.

GUILFOYLE: Polo shirt.

GUTFELD: He's got the polo shirt almost up. I think these are jumping the shark. Just leave it. Let Jesse do it.

GUILFOYLE: And by the way, yes, he's not as good as Jesse. That was very disappointing.

BOLLING: It was interesting. It was interesting that they had absolutely no clue what was going on.

BILA: Well, it's typical. I mean...

GUILFOYLE: Thank you so much for the rights to that video. We appreciate it!

BOLLING: We have to thank them.

WILLIAMS: Yes, well, you can't just insult people.

GUILFOYLE: I just thought I'd smooth it over.

WILLIAMS: But unless they -- unless they take offense to them.

I was just writing a book and -- about the Founding Fathers and stuff.

BOLLING: Like this book?

WILLIAMS: I love it. Love it.

But I must say, you learn so much. I mean, and I think I'm an educated American. But if I said to you, how many people signed the Declaration or how many Founding Fathers -- you know, a lot of people who aren't dumb would actually...

BOLLING: He had Jesse Ventura as one of the Founding Fathers.

WILLIAMS: That's ridiculous. I mean, that's ridiculous.

GUTFELD: You know, though, that they edit out the correct stuff.

BOLLING: Probably.

WILLIAMS: Do you think so?

BOLLING: Jesse doesn't. He takes everything seriously.

Finally, move over, John McEnroe, because there's a new king of the tennis tantrum. Viktor Troicki releasing an epic tirade on an umpire at Wimbledon. Here it is, courtesy of ESPN.


VIKTOR TROICKI, TENNIS PLAYER: Look! Look! Look at him! Come on, please, look at it! Worst umpire ever in the world. What are you doing? Did you -- did you see the ball? You're so bad.


BOLLING: Now, Juan, the worst umpire that ever happened in the world.

GUILFOYLE: In the world!

BOLLING: In the world.

WILLIAMS: I like the -- I like the histrionics, the diva act. I mean, but jeez Louise.

BILA: I love it.

WILLIAMS: He's a sore loser.

BILA: I like a man who throws a tantrum. I do. I do.

GUILFOYLE: Call Jedediah.

BILA: I like the passion, you know, that energy. I like it.

WILLIAMS: What about -- what about character and virtue?

BILA: This is character.

WILLIAMS: Talk about athletes.

BOLLING: This is about sportsmanship.

BILA: Passion.

WILLIAMS: There we go.

GUILFOYLE: No. It's because tennis is such a quiet game. That's the thing.

BOLLING: Well, you can't do that on the football field, either. You can't do it on a baseball field.

GUTFELD: You can't shout, "Look at my balls!"

GUILFOYLE: People do it...

GUTFELD: By the way, can I make a point here about tennis?

GUILFOYLE: Oh -- you know what?

GUTFELD: Let's make a really serious point about tennis.

GUILFOYLE: Terrible.

GUTFELD: If you're a vegetarian or an animal rights activist, should you play tennis when you know that the racket strings are made from cat gut, which is, by the way, not cat gut but it's part of the intestines from cattle, horses, mules, goats?

WILLIAMS: I thought it was nylon.

GUTFELD: A lot of it still come from animals. Classical strings in musical instruments...


GUTFELD: ... are also made from -- so if you're an animal activist, you can't be in a band.

WILLIAMS: You know, the other day...

GUILFOYLE: Wait. Where is this going? That is just so...

GUTFELD: I was thinking about something interesting to say about tennis.

GUILFOYLE: You should have left it where you dropped it.

WILLIAMS: That's fine, that's fine. You know, we were talking to Jedediah. Jedediah said she liked this. And I was thinking remember when Stephen Curry threw his mouthpiece out?

BILA: Yes.

WILLIAMS: You know what happened to him? Gone.


WILLIAMS: You're out of here! You can't do that.

GUILFOYLE: Oh my God, look what happens in baseball.

BILA: It's not like that, though.

GUILFOYLE: Look what happens in hockey.

BILA: I like the testosterone to be right at the surface, Juan.

GUTFELD: Nothing like this ever happens in bowling.

WILLIAMS: Don't throw the ball at...

GUTFELD: Don't throw the ball. It would be dangerous. Those are heavy. It would be dangerous.

GUTFELD: You use other people's shoes.

GUILFOYLE: All right. Moving along so we still have a show.

BOLLING: Exactly.

Up next, in a couple of weeks we hit the road for a road trip. What are some of our favorite snacks to bring along on an adventure like this? Find out when we return.


GUTFELD: In just two weeks, we embark on our road trip to the conventions in Cleveland and Philadelphia in a bus a little bigger than this one in my very hands. Help me! Help me!

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my God.

GUTFELD: Last week we told you about our favorite road trip memories. Today we're sharing our favorite road trip snacks. I'll start with the queen of salami.

GUILFOYLE: You know it. Undefeated, baby. And look at this: Sean sliced it extra thick, just the way I like it. Sean O'Rourke. You always do that!

GUTFELD: There you go. There you go.

Juan, what's your favorite snack?

WILLIAMS: Really, I like Cheetos. But I've got to say, you can't take them Cheetos on a bus. Even, like, you're watching TV, you're eating Cheetos and Doritos. You know, it gets all over your hands. Your hands turn orange, you know.


WILLIAMS: You start to look like somebody's here. But then you'll pick on me if I say who's here.


WILLIAMS: I can't say who it is. Who you look like.

My favorite is this: Lay's potato trips.

BILA: Those are great, right?

WILLIAMS: Oh, they're wonderful.

GUTFELD: But they're terrible for dipping, because they break.

WILLIAMS: You know, after you eat a couple, Gregory, despite digestive issues, you just start to feel like, oh, my God, I'm lethargic.



GUILFOYLE: You want some salami?

GUTFELD: By the way, Juan, Lay's, Bill Clinton's favorite chip.


GUILFOYLE: Especially on planes.

GUTFELD: Planes.

I guess we should move on. Eric, you got...

BOLLING: I went healthy.

GUTFELD: I know you did.

BOLLING: We're going to be on a bus a really long time.

GUTFELD: That's true.

BOLLING: For days on end. Right?

GUILFOYLE: Yes, you're worried about your manliness?

BOLLING: No, I want to stay in shape!

GUILFOYLE: Manorexic.

BOLLING: Traveling, like on the road trips.



BOLLING: This is terrible if you start eating some of this all the way. I'll bring along healthy stuff.

GUILFOYLE: What about salami? This is protein.

BOLLING: Pretzels aren't exactly super healthy, but they're not...

WILLIAMS: You know what happened to President Bush?


WILLIAMS: Choked! So that's not so healthy.

BOLLING: On pretzels?

WILLIAMS: Yes, man. Watch him try not to.

BOLLING: Someone chokes on our bus.

GUTFELD: You're going to have to do the Heimlich, because I don't know it, and also, I'm pretty -- also, I'm pretty lazy. So you're going to have to do it.

BOLLING: Could someone get that?

GUTFELD: Could someone get that? Somebody's choking. Even if I'm choking, I might just be too lazy to let you know. I'll just go...

BILA: That's true.

GUTFELD: You're not going to be on the bus.

BILA: I'm not going to be on the bus because I wasn't invited.

GUTFELD: Well...

BILA: A separate topic for a separate day. But I'm addicted to...

GUILFOYLE: You can be my body double.

BILA: I'll bring the salami.

GUILFOYLE: You need to bring me a little more salami.

GUTFELD: Are you -- are you stunting for Dana right now?

BILA: Well, Dana's snack is this licorice. What's it called again, guys?

BOLLING: String.

BILA: Oh, licorice. OK. Which is tasty. I had that when I was a kid. My snack...

GUTFELD: Looks like "Predator" hair. Remember "Predator"?

BILA: Why do you bring him places? This is what happens.

GUTFELD: Go ahead.

BILA: My snacks are GoMacro bars. They're really good. They're peanut butter chocolate chip. I like them. They, like, make me full. They taste a little sweet. And I was going to bring kale chips just -- just to bother you. But I decided against it.

GUTFELD: I like a strong ship, like a Ruffle, because you can put that with -- by the way, this French onion canned dip is really good. It's really good.

GUILFOYLE: Are you really going to eat that on the bus? We only have one bathroom.

GUTFELD: I'm going to smear it on my chest.


GUTFELD: I believe the messier the snack, the better. Get the dip all over the steering wheel.

GUILFOYLE: You're sitting next to Dana.

GUTFELD: And then I'm going to, like, get Cheeto -- Cheeto dust everywhere.

BILA: I don't want to be on the bus.

WILLIAMS: You ever -- you ever look in the backseat, you know, where the kids sit? Sometimes it is so gross. I mean, you say, "Here's a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Because it's halfway healthy."


BILA: That would have been a good snack.

WILLIAMS: But then all over the back.

BILA: That would have been a good choice. Peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

BOLLING: For the record, Greg sent a list in this long.

GUTFELD: Yes, that's true.

GUILFOYLE: It was so J.Lo. It was like, two thin pillows, white candles...


GUILFOYLE: ... listing all of these things. I think I shall release it.

GUTFELD: Yes, please do.

GUILFOYLE: I'm going to let the world know.

WILLIAMS: I'm surprised you didn't answer beef jerky. I thought...

GUTFELD: I like beef jerky, but beef jerky doesn't like me.

GUILFOYLE: He claims he's Atkins.

BILA: I'll be praying for all of us.

BOLLING: Fast food.

GUTFELD: Yes, fast food.


GUILFOYLE: Let's go.

GUTFELD:  "One More Thing" is coming up.


GUILFOYLE: Oh, my goodness. All right. So it's time now for "One More Thing," and I'm up first. And in light of this fantastic Independence Day weekend, the Fourth of July, there is nothing better than this beautiful video that went viral from Star Swain singing the national anthem. Take a listen.


STAR SWAIN, SINGER (singing): And the home of the brave...


GUILFOYLE: Fifteen million views on Facebook, but you can catch it right here on "FOX and Friends" in the morning. And also you can catch more of the Loretta Lynch investigation special, hosted by Eric Bolling, in for Hannity tonight. I'll be joining him, as well as Ms. Jedediah Vila. And of course, Greta has more on it at 7, as well.

Juan, what do you have for us?

WILLIAMS: Well, you know, I just finished my book, "We, the People," go out and buy one. But the book is about what the Founding Fathers would think of modern America. So I learned a lot about July Fourth this weekend.

And believe me, it's not just the day the Declaration was signed. On July Fourth, 1848, for example, I bet you didn't know that the cornerstone for the Washington Monument was put in place.

But I want to tell you something. One of my favorite memories of July Fourth is Charles Krauthammer would invite my family out to his house for the Fourth of July party, and everybody in the party would have to read a part of the Declaration of Independence.

So I wanted to read one for you right now. My favorite part goes like this: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights and that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

Happy Fourth of July, everybody.

BILA: Aww!

GUILFOYLE: You're very charming, Juan. Very sweet. That sounds like a kind of a wild party, though.

BOLLING: Greg, are you crying?


GUILFOYLE: No, because he's actually binging and overdosing on French onion dip.

BOLLING: All right.

GUTFELD: Three things. One, show Saturday, 10 p.m. I've got Mike Baker, Jillian Turner, Andrew Schultz. We're going to talk a lot about terror, talk about Loretta Lynch. Could be a very, very interesting show.

No. 2, people on Twitter say, wait, Mark Deese has been doing this, or Dice, Deese, has been doing these Q&A's for a while. So hey, I just didn't know.

And this.


GRAPHIC: Greg's Romance News


GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh. Please.

GUTFELD: Nothing warms my heart when I see two beings from different worlds come together. Like this man...




GUILFOYLE: Eww! This is not appropriate!

GUTFELD: I know!  But they've been apart for a long time.

GUILFOYLE: Who approved this?

GUTFELD: Our tolerant culture now allows us to express our love in any way, shape, or form.

GUILFOYLE: Let me tell you something. That's illegal in a lot of places. That's inappropriate.

BILA: That's bestiality.

GUILFOYLE: I prosecuted these cases.


GUTFELD: What the heck?

GUILFOYLE: Inappropriate!


BOLLING: I'm going to do this very quickly. The book has been on sale for three days. It's doing amazing. It's like top -- went to top three on Amazon. I have signed copies out there. I've signed 10,000 copies of these. Go there and grab one of these ASAP.


BILA: Matthew McConaughey, my sexiest man alive, is teaching a class in Texas at the University of Texas. I will be camping out, and Kimberly will be helping me figure out to get in. Thirty students will be there talking about film. It's going to be amazing.

GUTFELD: All right, all right.

GUILFOYLE: That's it for us. Be sure to tune in Monday. The real show is next, "Special Report."

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