Former Secret Service officer calls Clinton a 'dictator'
On 'Hannity,' Gary Byrne says he wrote 'Crisis of Character' because he wants Americans to know what the real Clinton administration is like
This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," June 27, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." And tonight, his highly anticipated tell-all should be making the Clinton campaign very nervous tonight. In his brand-new book, "Crisis of Character," a White House Secret Service officer discloses his firsthand experience with Hillary, Bill, and how they operate. Gary Byrne details what the Clintons are like far away from the public eye.
Now, he has a lot to share, so let's get things started. Joining us now in an exclusive is former Secret Service officer Gary Byrne. How are you? Good to see you, sir.
GARY BYRNE, "CRISIS OF CHARACTER" AUTHOR: Thank you, Sean.
HANNITY: You wanted to be a Secret Service officer your whole life.
BYRNE: I did. I did.
HANNITY: And you got that coveted job right in front of the Oval Office.
BYRNE: I did. It came through. Yes, it was great.
HANNITY: Pretty amazing. I know that the left is going to smear, slander, besmirch you. You're ready for that, right?
BYRNE: Sure. I am. And it's already started.
HANNITY: It's already started, before the book comes out. I love how they smear you before they even know what you wrote.
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: You -- I'm going to start at the end of the book...
BYRNE: Sure.
HANNITY: ... because you talk about why you wrote this book. You said, What I learned from the Clintons firsthand the hard way is important. In 2016, she's running again. And you feel compelled to tell the story because you -- because why? Let me ask that.
BYRNE: Because I want Americans to know what the real Clinton administration is like. Mrs. Clinton is not a leader. She's a very, very angry person all the time. She's -- I've seen many instances that I talk about in my book, "Crisis of Character," where she displays this holier than thou attitude, Do as I say, not as I do.
She's a dictator. She comes across as a dictator. I've seen her berate many people, and myself included. And I've never seen any example that would lead me to believe that she could lead this country.
HANNITY: You know, you describe a woman that is very phony. In other words, you talk about how she'd tell you to go to hell or tell another agent to go blank himself...
BYRNE: Correct.
HANNITY: ... and how she threw a bible at a Secret Service officer or agent.
BYRNE: Agent.
HANNITY: Agent.
BYRNE: Yes, sir.
HANNITY: OK. And the vase story, which we'll get to in a minute.
BYRNE: Right.
HANNITY: But if the cameras were on, she was close to Bill, but it was manufactured, it was not real.
BYRNE: Absolutely.
HANNITY: Camera goes off, different person.
BYRNE: Yes. Yes.
HANNITY: And if she had guests, she'd say, Oh, he's my favorite Secret Service guy.
BYRNE: She actually did that to me one time when she berated me about an hour before over something, and then introduced me to this tour from Arkansas, a group of people that were getting a special tour, and told them what a wonderful -- I was her favorite officer and patted me on the back, and almost to the point where I -- like, I almost believed her. But I knew what the truth was. I had seen this behavior before.
HANNITY: You said, And with Hillary Clinton's latest rise, I realized her own leadership style, volcanic, impulsive, enabled by sycophants, disdainful of the rules set for everyone else, has not changed a bit. A lot has been made about temperament, and the temperament of a president.
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: You're describing someone by far that does not have control of her emotions or temperament.
BYRNE: Yes. She exhibits some very dangerous behavior, as I would describe it. She gets angry at things that are policy issues that, you know, take time to fix, and she's got this attitude where she wants things fixed right now, immediately.
She screams and yells at people. And there's procedures. You know, government is -- government is very bogged down with rules and regulations. And so yes, there's many examples that I cite in my book where she blows up at people. Like I said, she's blown up at me before and agents and her staff.
At one time, I saw her staff so afraid to tell her about a mistake that was made. They weren't upset about the waste of the mistake, of ordering the wrong invitations. They were terrified that someone was going to have to tell Hillary Clinton that there was a mistake made.
HANNITY: Oh, by the way, you're not the only one to say this. George Stephanopoulos...
BYRNE: Sure.
HANNITY: He described her as having a horrible temper.
BYRNE: Yes. He did.
HANNITY: Dee Dee Myers is another person.
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: And you even quoted George, I know, in the book.
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: And then you wrote, "Though portrayed as a long-suffering spouse of an unfaithful husband whose infidelities I personally observed" -- and we'll get to that in a minute...
BYRNE: Sure.
HANNITY: ... "and know to be true, she was anything but a sympathetic victim."
BYRNE: Correct. She -- their relationship was -- seemed so strained and volatile at times. And she -- she would continuously berate people, as I mentioned before. But she was like two different people. Again, she would be polite and nice to everybody when the cameras were on, and then when they were off, she was just cold, distant.
HANNITY: Seconds later.
BYRNE: Almost instantly. I mean, that's what I've experienced quite a few times.
HANNITY: Yes. All right, you tell a couple of stories. And I think the audience would want to hear them.
BYRNE: Sure.
HANNITY: One story is the vase story.
BYRNE: Sure.
HANNITY: The other story is the blue glove story.
BYRNE: Right.
HANNITY: And I think they give some insight into what you saw on a regular basis.
BYRNE: Sure. So the vase story is I came in one morning to go to work early, came in and worked out. And then as I headed over to the post, I ran into house residence workers that were going home. And they said, Oh, you better go over and see your buddy. We had a problem last night.
So I went over to the mansion post on the ground floor, and I said, What's going on? I heard something happened. They said, you know, Mr. and Mrs. Clinton had this horrendous fight. It was so loud that the staff people on the ground had walked away, you know, from the elevator shaft. The sound was coming down. And then they heard a crash, and then when it was investigated, they saw a broken vase on the floor.
Now, this has been reported to be not true, and they reported it, that a lamp was thrown. Well, a lamp wasn't thrown. A vase was.
HANNITY: Now, the vase was on one side of the room...
BYRNE: Right.
HANNITY: ... and broken on the other side of the room.
BYRNE: Right. The vase sat on a long -- an oblong table. It was on the (INAUDIBLE)
HANNITY: So it didn't fall.
BYRNE: I doubt it.
HANNITY: Yes.
BYRNE: Yes, it looked like it had been launched, and it was shattered. And the way -- and the reason I know this is true is because when I heard the story, after I heard it, having worked the at the White House and know how the White House works, I knew if something like that had happened, where the debris would be. So I walked down to the curator's office and looked inside the curator's office, and there was a cardboard box with the blue -- mostly blue and some white on it. So I knew it was true.
HANNITY: Yes. Tell the story about the blue glove.
BYRNE: So the blue glove incident is...
HANNITY: You're talking about, like, medical gloves.
BYRNE: Right. Right. The uniformed division officers are required to wear these gloves and...
HANNITY: Everybody.
BYRNE: Yes, when you're searching people.
HANNITY: Right.
BYRNE: And Congressman Barney Frank came in with some representatives, and as they were putting the gloves on and Congressman Frank asked why they were wearing the gloves, and he said -- the officer said, you know, Why do you think? And so they felt like that the uniform division was, you know, being rude to them.
So when they got into the mansion, they started complaining about it. And when it got to Mrs. Clinton, she pretty much came unglued. I actually got phone calls from my co-workers over there who told me the story and said she was on her way over to the Oval Office, and she was furious.
HANNITY: You -- you tell that it ended up that she literally went down to the Oval Office to see Bill Clinton...
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: ... wanting all the agents fired and...
BYRNE: All the uniform division officers.
HANNITY: All the uniform division officers fired.
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: They were always against us from the beginning...
BYRNE: From the very beginning.
HANNITY: ... because they had worked for former president...
BYRNE: Right.
HANNITY: ... George H.W. Bush.
BYRNE: Right. She was paranoid about us, and for no reason. I know it sounds silly for me to say this now because I'm talking about it, but we are incredibly loyal to them. And as many times as I detail in my book, "Crisis of Character," I tried to help them. I tried to do the right thing for them and hide some of this stuff. But I just -- you couldn't help them. It's just perpetual scandal, one after the other. It's like you can't help them help themselves.
HANNITY: Yes. And this temper issue of hers was not uncommon. This was a regular -- you describe somebody that has almost on a daily basis.
BYRNE: Sure. Maybe a daily basis, not so much, but certainly a lot. I saw it so much that I became numb to it almost. And I always go back to what I was told by a sheriff from Arkansas one time. And we were debating whether they would get elected. This is before they started running. I was down there on a protection detail for former president George Herbert Walker Bush.
And the guy said, Let me tell you something about these people, Gary. I've known them for years. Everything you hear about them is true. And if they run for office, they'll get elected, and they'll be there for eight years.
HANNITY: Yes.
BYRNE: And he wasn't just -- I mean, he was serious as a heart attack. He almost looked right through me. He knew these people, you know, well.
HANNITY: Yes.
BYRNE: So it's just the same thing that we heard about in Arkansas, all these rumors. It became true at the White House.
HANNITY: And would these fights be something common knowledge, everybody knew, there was a lot of fighting?
BYRNE: We did a pretty good job of hiding it. We helped them hide it. You know, that's our job in the Secret Service, as well.
HANNITY: You helped him also hide his infidelity.
BYRNE: Well, yes, I did. I did. At one time when the Navy steward came and was complaining to me near the Oval Office that he had found these towels that were stained with lipstick and other -- and some fluids, that he was concerned and that he was tired of cleaning up after the president's affair.
And in two particular cases, I actually -- or one particular case, I actually took the towels from him, Sean, and put them in a plastic bag and I destroyed them.
HANNITY: I want to get back to that in a second.
BYRNE: Oh, sorry.
HANNITY: You describe her as dangerous, abusive and paranoid.
BYRNE: Yes. Yes. One of the first things when they first came to the White House -- about two years before they got there, the Bush administration put in this brand-new state of the art telephone system. When they came in, they wanted it changed because they thought the Bush administration...
HANNITY: Bush had bugged them?
BYRNE: Right.
HANNITY: Yes.
BYRNE: Which is...
HANNITY: Which is kind of paranoid.
BYRNE: Yes, and it sounds so crazy when you think about it. And so they went and had the phone system changed and never -- they didn't know it cost money. They actually didn't have the money to pay for it at the time.
HANNITY: Before I get into all the issues involving Bill and Bill and her what she knew and didn't know and covering up and lying and you being put in the middle of all this -- people used drugs the at the White House?
BYRNE: Yes, there were some issues. The one that I -- one of the ones I comment in my book -- and I'm very careful not to tell too much about it because I don't want -- you know, hopefully, this person got on with their lives and lived a healthy life.
But there was one particular staff member that they'd come in in the morning, and they'd be so beat up and exhausted looking, worn out, exhausted, and to the point where they couldn't seen say good morning. And they'd go in their office and then they'd go into the bathroom and they come out of the bathroom completely elevated and happy and smiling and -- and...
HANNITY: It was obvious you thought coke was being used?
BYRNE: I did. And then later on, I was told that this particular person actually -- they did, like, something similar to an intervention and got her help and got her to a clinic, and I never did see her again. But I understand she did all right.
HANNITY: OK. We have a lot more ground to cover. We'll continue. We're just getting things started. We'll have much more with former Secret Service officer Gary Byrne right after this break.
And coming up -- well, how the Clinton campaign is reacting to Gary's tell- all book. Plus, we'll get reaction from Laura Ingraham tonight. That and more tonight straight ahead.
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HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." So earlier this month, when details from Gary Byrne's tell-all book began coming out, well, the Clinton campaign -- they went on the offensive, releasing a short statement, saying, quote, "Gary Byrne joins the ranks of Ed Klein and other authors in this latest in a long line of books attempting to cash in on the election cycle with their nonsense. Now, it should be put in the fantasy section of the book store."
We continue now with the book, "Crisis of Character: A White House Secret Service Officer Discloses His Firsthand Experience With Hillary, Bill and How They Operate," former Secret Service officer, Gary Byrne.
Thirty years of service. Your book isn't even out, and they smear you.
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: So now that it's out, I guess they'll really start smearing you.
BYRNE: Yes. I believe that is going to happen.
HANNITY: Is that -- you know, you tell the stories, Go to hell, she would say to officers, go F yourself...
BYRNE: Right. Yes.
HANNITY: ... throwing a Bible at an officer.
BYRNE: At an agent, yes.
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HANNITY: ... lashing out at many agents...
BYRNE: Sure. Sure. And officers, yes.
HANNITY: ... and now trying to smear a 30-year stellar reputation...
BYRNE: Yes. Yes.
HANNITY: What's your reaction to that?
BYRNE: Well, my reaction is I'm an Air Force veteran. I spent 25 years in the federal law enforcement protecting them, and I realize they're bent out of shape about me coming out and telling the truth. But it is the truth. It's the story of my life, and they just happened to intersect it. And as I mentioned before, the reason I'm doing this...
HANNITY: So you expected this.
BYRNE: I did. I'm prepared for it. I don't like it, but it is what it is. And when I decided to come forward and tell my story, I knew I'd be upsetting them.
HANNITY: You expected it because you know them.
BYRNE: I do. I know them well.
HANNITY: Yes. You said she berated -- meaning Hillary -- Vince Foster until he could stand no more.
BYRNE: Right.
HANNITY: That implies that she drove him, in part.
BYRNE: You know, nobody knows why somebody takes their own life. But I can tell you, when I met Vince Foster in the White House and I saw him walk around, I never saw anybody that didn't want to be there more than he didn't want to be there. He looked so uncomfortable.
And there were many incidences or stories where the staff would hear her berating Vince, and she blamed him publicly for some of the things that they didn't get done. And as a lot of people know, in his suicide note, he basically said that, you know, that Washington, D.C., was this terrible, vindictive place, and it was one of the reasons he took his own life.
HANNITY: Yes.
BYRNE: I mean, it's a terrible thing. I didn't know him well, but I was very sad when he -- when he did take his life. But I was not surprised.
HANNITY: You found Bill Clinton, in spite of all his infidelities, a nicer person.
BYRNE: He is. Yes, he's very...
HANNITY: He would want to give people their time...
BYRNE: Sure.
HANNITY: ... and due and be polite and was like that more in real life.
BYRNE: He was. He was. He'd look you right in the eye, talk to people. He was very kind. I actually got to introduce my parents to him one time, and they remembered it forever.
HANNITY: You knew about many affairs. We don't know about all of them, do we.
BYRNE: No. No. And I don't know about all of them. I certainly know about...
HANNITY: But this is the Oval Office. This is the...
BYRNE: Sure.
HANNITY: ... president of the United States. Isn't that a national security threat?
BYRNE: Yes, I would think it is. I mean, my question was at the time when I was being forced to testify...
HANNITY: You didn't want to testify.
BYRNE: No, I never wanted to talk about this at all. Never. And I know that sounds silly now because I'm coming out. But clearly, I've walked through some door where I think it's time and it's important to do.
HANNITY: How many women do you know for sure he had affairs with in the Oval Office?
BYRNE: In the White House complex, we'll say, I'd say easily three, maybe four that I know of.
HANNITY: And you saw Monica Lewinsky a mile away.
BYRNE: Sure. Sure.
HANNITY: You know she wanted to be near him.
BYRNE: She was certainly manipulating some of the staff, myself, other officers and agents to find out where the president was so she could...
HANNITY: Well, she wasn't manipulating if you saw through it.
BYRNE: Well, yes, I agree. But I mean, I saw through it right away. She was trying to place herself in his path when he would move around the complex.
BYRNE: Now, you never actually saw them together.
BYRNE: No. Well, not alone.
HANNITY: All right. But you did see -- you walked into the Map Room, I believe, and you did see...
BYRNE: Actually, that -- I'm sorry. That's not correct. I did see them alone.
HANNITY: You did see them alone?
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: And what did you see?
BYRNE: Well, there was an incident one time where, during their affair, she showed up on a Saturday to say she had to deliver something to the president.
HANNITY: Was that the Saturday?
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: During the shutdown?
BYRNE: No, this was before that.
HANNITY: OK.
BYRNE: I'm sorry, this was after that. This was after that, and she showed up on a Saturday under the pretense of delivering some newspapers or something, which he already had copies of. The staff wasn't in yet because it was Saturday.
HANNITY: Right.
BYRNE: And so I blew her off. I told her to leave. And about five minutes later, the Oval Office door opened up, and the president said...
HANNITY: Did somebody come by?
BYRNE: Yes, did somebody try to deliver something to me? And I looked at the agent, and he's, like -- and after the president closed the door, he said, I told you, Gary. Stay out of it. Stop trying to stop her.
HANNITY: Wow.
BYRNE: You know, you don't know what goes on out on the road.
HANNITY: Out on the road? So in other words, he was telling you that this is nothing.
BYRNE: Right. That was the -- yes, exactly. That's what he was telling me.
HANNITY: So you knew that something was going on there.
BYRNE: Right.
HANNITY: But you actually walked into the Map Room and saw the president with former -- with former presidential candidate Vice President Mondale and with his daughter.
BYRNE: Yes, with his daughter. Yes, so I stopped by on the way from the East Wing to the West Wing to say hi to a friend. And one of the Navy stewards walked up and the president was waiting in the Map Room for him. The steward walked in the door to walk in the Map Room, and he was looking back at us and not into the room. And when he opened the door, the president was standing there with Eleanor Mondale, and they were like teenagers, you know, locked -- standing up, locked, making out. And they didn't even look up at us. They never saw us.
HANNITY: You knowingly had a situation where -- how do I say this delicately? You got rid of evidence. Let's put it that way.
BYRNE: I did.
HANNITY: But it wasn't subpoenaed. It was not illegal what you did.
BYRNE: Right. This was before we knew there was an investigation going on. And I was trying to help the president. I was trying to protect him from more scandal and embarrassment. And the steward came up with some towels that had lipstick on them, and another time with stuff that is, you know, a...
HANNITY: Bodily fluids?
BYRNE: From a male, yes. Thank you. And...
HANNITY: Trying to help you out here.
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HANNITY: And I'm trying to help my TV audience out here more.
BYRNE: Yes, I'm trying to keep it PG.
So the steward was highly distraught over this, and he complained that it had happened before. So I took a plastic bag, and I had them thrown into it, throw the towels in there and...
HANNITY: I think it's a little unfair to leave that for somebody else, don't you?
BYRNE: Yes. But based on what I've seen before, they don't think about that. They just do whatever they want to do.
HANNITY: Was it common knowledge the president was doing all this? Do you think she knew -- Hillary?
BYRNE: I do now. I mean, I can't tell you when I decided that she knew and accepted it, and that was the way it was. And then once in a while, she'd blow up over it. But, like, when the Monica story came out, my thing -- my feeling at the time was that she wasn't upset about the breach of their marriage. She was upset because he dented the Clinton brand again. He made them look bad again.
HANNITY: Yes, and so it was more about image again.
BYRNE: That's the...
HANNITY: But when you heard those stories of Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, Juanita Broaddrick.
BYRNE: Yes. Yes. Well, you know, after I saw their stories, after I had worked there for a while, I will tell you that my gut feeling is they're all telling the truth. I mean, you can't act like that. I mean, he's been acting like that his whole life. And I do believe especially Kathleen...
HANNITY: But if everybody -- how did he possibly keep it contained? Did he not know that as the president...
BYRNE: He doesn't seem to care. He just keeps behaving in that odd -- it's like a vicious cycle.
HANNITY: Wow. All right. We got to take a break. We'll come back. We'll have more of former Secret Service officer Gary Byrne and his explosive new book.
And later on, we'll check in with Laura Ingraham. She's here with reaction to Gary's tell-all book and much more. And how much damage could this do to the Clinton campaign, and why are they so nervous? Straight ahead.
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HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity," as we continue now with former Secret Service officer Gary Byrne, his explosive new book, "Crisis of Character." You didn't finish the story about the vase because that morning, he came down after that vase was broken, and he had a black eye that -- like a big black eye.
BYRNE: Sure. Sure. So after the incident when he came -- the next time I saw him in the Oval Office, he had a mark under his eye. You could see they were trying to hide it with makeup. And when I walked...
HANNITY: Did it work? Obviously not.
BYRNE: Yes. No. No. I walked into the secretary's office, and I said, What happened to the president? He's got a mark under his eye. And his assistant, Nancy Hernreich, said, Oh, that's -- he's allergic to coffee. And I said under one eye? I don't understand that.
HANNITY: Yes, that doesn't make sense.
BYRNE: Right.
HANNITY: But there was really a crisis.
BYRNE: Sure.
HANNITY: The Secret Service had to decide whether or not...
BYRNE: Right. Right.
HANNITY: ... his own wife was a physical threat to the president.
BYRNE: Right.
HANNITY: How big of an issue was that?
BYRNE: It was a concern. I've discussed it with other officers at the time, and agents. What do you do about a domestic dispute? What if -- what if...
HANNITY: What was the answer?
BYRNE: Each situation is different. You know, you have to protect the president, the protectee, and you have to protect the first lady. But you know, if he gets caught with some woman and she goes ballistic, then what happens happens.
HANNITY: So you were like the door keeper.
BYRNE: Pretty much.
HANNITY: You were the guy in front of the Oval Office door.
BYRNE: Yes. Yes.
HANNITY: If somebody got in to see the president, they had to go through you.
BYRNE: Pretty much.
HANNITY: OK.
BYRNE: Me or the other -- there were six officers (INAUDIBLE)
HANNITY: How often would you know that that person was there for another reason, to be with the president in a romantic way?
BYRNE: So the way it worked would be, like, if I came up and relieved somebody on post, the officer that I'm relieving is going to say, Hey, you know, he's in there with Lewinsky or whoever, and you know, they've been in there a while, just a heads up.
So it wasn't like we were gossiping. You have to pass this stuff on.
HANNITY: Right.
BYRNE: You don't want to blind side your co-worker. So you always pass this information on. And we were concerned. I mean, what if she did catch the president in a compromising situation?
HANNITY: But you had a plan for that. You -- if -- wherever Hillary was, you guys were communicating if she was headed down.
BYRNE: Right. Right.
HANNITY: And then you'd have to go warn him.
BYRNE: Well, I never actually warned him. But yes, that was the plan. Like, yes, that...
HANNITY: That was the plan. You had a plan in place, basically.
BYRNE: Yes. Yes.
HANNITY: I mean, that's -- all right. Let me play -- I pointed out on this program and on my radio program that she's often angry.
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: Somebody you're describing with a volcanic temper.
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: Let's play some of Hillary.
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HILLARY CLINTON, D-PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: And I also think we'd be a lot better off if we actually talked to each other instead of yelling at each other.
I am so sick of the Sanders campaign lying about me. I'm sick of it!
I think it's time we treated everybody in this country with respect, with kindness, with love.
I know we can create more good-paying jobs and raise incomes for hard- working Americans again. I know that we can finish the job of universal health care coverage for every single man, woman and child.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
CLINTON: I know we can combat climate change and be the clean energy superpower of the 21st century.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
CLINTON: I know we can make college affordable and get student debt off the backs of young people.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HANNITY: She does seem angry a lot.
BYRNE: Right.
HANNITY: And you're saying behind closed doors, when nobody's looking, she's that angry person always, mostly.
HANNITY: Or distant, cold. What I'm looking at there, Sean, doesn't concern me too much. That's her being a politician. The kind of anger I'm talking about is where she just almost can't even complete a sentence. She starts yelling, screaming, cussing. You know, I talk in the book how she berated the president.
HANNITY: Mistreating people in their positions.
BYRNE: Sure.
HANNITY: All the time.
BYRNE: Yes. The uniform division officers, agents.
HANNITY: So this is -- you're describing a phony, fake, fraudulent human being.
BYRNE: Absolutely.
HANNITY: All right, let me give you an example. This is Hillary, you know, saying she remembers landing under sniper fire when she went to Bosnia. This is what she said.
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CLINTON: I remember landing under sniper fire. There was supposed to be some kind of a greeting ceremony at the airport, but instead, we just ran with our heads down to get into the vehicles, to get to our base.
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HANNITY: Great image-making, but here's the problem. I have the real video, and this is it. This is Hillary arriving not under sniper fire, but she walks up to a group of young girls, who give her flowers and give her gifts. That's not exactly sniper fire. So is that the person that you're trying to warn America about?
BYRNE: Yes.
HANNITY: Explain. She -- in other words, she sits in an interview with Bill. You think they're the happiest couple together. The light goes off. She hates him.
BYRNE: Right. Right. I don't know if she hates him or not, but I will tell that the example you showed there is the perfect example. Anybody that worked around them in the Secret Service, when they saw that, they knew flat -- they started laughing their faces off because they knew that was a flat-out lie.
HANNITY: Wow.
BYRNE: Now, I wasn't on that mission, but I talked to the guys that were. And the only thing that the military had them do is sit on their flack vests as they were getting close to the ground, which is standard procedure in those -- but when she made the claim that they were under sniper fire, I knew it was a lie.
HANNITY: I want to go back to where we started. You feel compelled to do this.
BYRNE: I do.
HANNITY: You had never signed a non-disclosure. You have the right to do it. Some people wish you didn't do it...
BYRNE: Right.
HANNITY: ... because of the position you were in. Now guys do have to sign non-disclosures.
BRYNE: They do. It started in, I believe, 2004.
HANNITY: OK, what is it -- the final question. What do you want people to know what you saw in their years as president?
BRYNE: Well, the first thing I'd like you to know is I'm not comfortable about talking about this. But I feel so strongly that people need to know the real Hillary Clinton and how dangerous she is and her behavior. She is not a leader. She is not a leader.
HANNITY: She doesn't have the temperament.
BRYNE: She doesn't have the temperament. She didn't have the temperament to handle the social office when she was first lady. She does not have the temperament.
HANNITY: She's dishonest.
BRYNE: She's dishonest. She habitually lies. Anybody that, you know, can separate themselves from their politics and review her behavior over the last --
HANNITY: You're going to be accused of this being political.
BRYNE: I absolutely I'm sure I will be. I have been already.
HANNITY: And what's your answer?
BRYNE: It's not. It's got nothing to do with politics.
HANNITY: Is it a love of country?
BRYNE: It is a love of country, and I hope someday that it does make a difference. I mean, if Mrs. Clinton ends up being the president of the United States, then she's our president and she's the commander-in-chief, and it is what it is. But if she did become the president without me speaking the truth, I'm not sure I could deal with that. People need to know. This is serious, and her behavior is appalling. And she's two different people.
HANNITY: All right, Gary Byrne, thank you for being with us.
BRYNE: Sean, thank you. I appreciate your time.
HANNITY: Thank you so much. Thanks for telling your story.
BRYNE: Coming up, we'll have reaction to our exclusive interview with Gary Byrne. How much impact will this book have come November? Laura Ingraham weighs in. And then later tonight, reaction from our panel straight, Monica Crowley, Doug Schoen, Noelle Nikpour straight ahead.
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HANNITY: And welcome back to HANNITY. Here now with reaction to my interview with former Clinton White House Secret Service officer Gary Byrne is the editor in chief of LifeZette, Fox News contributor, national syndicated radio host Laura Ingraham. That is pretty stunning on a lot of levels, but I wanted to get your take.
LAURA INGRAHAM, EDITOR IN CHIEF, LIFEZETTE.COM: Yes. Well, Sean, it seems that if this were about Trump, right, the media would go crazy with it. If this were cataloging Donald Trump's, you know, routine behavior behind closed doors, it would lead every broadcast.
And the picture that he paints of Hillary is obviously very unflattering, very disrespectful toward staff, official staff, volatile temper, all of that. And yet I imagine that she's going to get a total pass for that. I mean, her whole argument against Trump now -- and you heard more from Elizabeth Warren today to this effect -- is that he doesn't have the temperament to be commander-in-chief. Well, I think after this, the question is does Hillary have the temperament to be the commander-in-chief?
HANNITY: What's amazing about this -- and, frankly, it would be front page news everywhere, lead every newscast if it was Trump.
INGRAHAM: Of course.
HANNITY: And this is the problem. They interviewed all these women that they manipulated their words. The New York Times gets caught. They ignore Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones, and Kathleen Willey and Dolly Kyle. In this case it's the same thing. I just looked at Gary Byrne's schedule. Guess what he's not interviewed for -- ABC, NBC, CBS. And here is a guy with firsthand knowledge telling his experience about a woman with a horrible, horrific temper that treats people, everyday people, like crap, curses at these guys, throws things at these guys, threw a vase across the room apparently, gives the president a black eye. And she has the temperament to be president?
INGRAHAM: Well, is that domestic abuse? Shouldn't the playing field be level here? Shouldn't that be called domestic abuse? I mean I'm half- kidding, but, again --
HANNITY: Yes, that's domestic abuse.
INGRAHAM: I mean, if Bill Clinton wanted to press charges, he could have, but obviously he wasn't going to.
But again, we see this in every media event. Like the coverage today, Sean, of the Elizabeth Warren event with Hillary. You might have thought Elizabeth Warren cured brain cancer. She came out, oh, my gosh, what's an amazing performance by Elizabeth Warren. All she did was level personal insults at Donald Trump.
So when Trump insults Warren with the Pocahontas or whatever he calls her, they blast him. When she says he's a money-grubbing, no good grifter, et cetera, et cetera, they call it strong and courageous. So this is what Trump is up against, that it almost doesn't matter what comes out about Hillary. She's under criminal investigation. The Democrats circle the wagon for her. And meanwhile the Republicans just dump all over Trump for pretty much any reason, and they decide they're going to stand on their high horse and try to let Hillary Clinton take the White House. It's unconscionable.
HANNITY: That's the saddest part. Go back to Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney, every conservative was told to suck it up.
INGRAHAM: Fall in line.
HANNITY: Because your guy lost. It was a fair opportunity. Everybody got a chance to vote. Listen to the people. And look at Paul Ryan today. I mean, he has used harsher terms towards Donald Trump than he ever used against either Hillary or Barack Obama.
INGRAHAM: And I think you made a great point, Sean, about listen to the people. And people say, well, Trump only got 35 percent of the overall vote, and there are all these other candidates. Yes, that's because there were 17 candidates, and he received a majority -- he received record numbers of votes.
But you notice the same thing is being said about Brexit, Sean. And Paul Ryan said, well he respects the decision. Barack Obama said, "I respect the decision." Meanwhile, I think strong conservatives are saying, this is independence day. It's going to be rocky in the beginning, but we always choose freedom over collectivism, and the EU is a corrupt form of collectivism.
HANNITY: But we have made horrible trade deals. American workers are suffering as a result of government's incompetence. And you know what, if you really want to look at a congressman's approval rating, I would argue the number one reason it is so low is because they failed, meaning Republican establishment figures failed, in standing up to the Obama agenda. They wouldn't use the power of the purse, their constitutional authority.
INGRAHAM: Yes, well they don't use that. But then Paul Ryan goes on Fox and says, well -- or Marco Rubio, excuse me, and says, well, I'm going to be a check on Trump and Hillary. I'm like, what? When were you a check on Obama? So, you know, this is the stuff I think that drives the average voter who calls himself or herself a conservative, working people, this is madness.
HANNITY: But don't you think Trump is right, though? I don't think he needs their support. I think it's either he's going to get the votes or he's not going to get the votes. I don't think the endorsement of Paul Ryan or any other candidate or any Washington, D.C. establishment figure is going to play into the minds of any voter.
INGRAHAM: Well, I do think if he wants to raise money, he's going to have to throw in a lot more of his own money to get these big donors to throw in some of their money. It's like when you do a real estate deal, it's like, how much money are you putting in? So they want him to put in money. And I think a lot of these big donors, they do want to see some more unity in the party. I think it would help to have some of these people, frankly, join up. Is it the be-all, end-all? I don't know. But I think it's better to be unified. You can't fight an external and an internal war at the same time, Sean. That's very hard to do.
HANNITY: Listen, it doesn't help. And that's where my frustration comes in. Does Brexit, is that a preview of coming attractions for our election?
INGRAHAM: I think it could be. I wrote about it on LifeZette. I think it's a Brexit wake-up call. Whatever happens in November, these problems with our country aren't going away. They're here to stay unless someone courageous fixes them.
HANNITY: All right, Laura Ingraham, thank you. Appreciate it.
Coming up, more reaction to our exclusive interview with the former Secret Service officer Gary Byrne. Monica Crowley, Doug Schoen, Noelle Nikpour, that and more straight ahead tonight on "Hannity."
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HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." So will Gary Byrne's tell-all book have an impact on the presidential elections come November? Joining us now, former Clinton pollster, Fox News contributor Doug Schoen, Fox News contributor and Washington Times columnist Monica Crowley, and Republican strategist Noelle Nikpour. She's also, by the way, running for Florida's 18th Congressional district, that's Allan West's old seat.
NOELLE NIKPOUR, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: You got it.
HANNITY: You know the Clintons.
DOUG SCHOEN, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I do.
HANNITY: OK, is Gary Byrne telling the truth?
SCHOEN: You know, I don't really think it matters.
HANNITY: I didn't ask you if it matters. Monica, did I ask him if it matters? I asked him if he was telling the truth.
SCHOEN: These reports have been out there time and time again.
HANNITY: Doug, I love you, but this is an important question.
SCHOEN: OK.
HANNITY: Answer truthfully?
SCHOEN: Yes.
HANNITY: Is he giving an accurate description of her?
SCHOEN: I did not see anything similar to what --
HANNITY: George Stephanopoulos did. So did Dee Dee Myers.
SCHOEN: I wasn't there every day. I was there once or twice.
HANNITY: Did you ever see her volcanic temper?
SCHOEN: I never saw her volcanic temper, no. She kept her distance from the --
(LAUGHTER)
HANNITY: You are so full of it. I've known you for years. You are just - -
SCHOEN: I'm not.
MONICA CROWLEY, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Here's the thing. Mrs. Clinton is making part of her campaign questioning Donald Trump's temperament. Well, we can ask the same exact question of Mrs. Clinton. What is not true about Donald Trump, who is a very steady, even-keeled person for those of us who know him, actually is true about Mrs. Clinton. She's got a --
HANNITY: It's an irony, isn't it?
CROWLEY: She's got a volatile, volcanic temper. But what the left does so effectively, including Mrs. Clinton, is projection. So they accuse their opponents of what they themselves are guilty of.
This book, look, everybody knows how deeply corrupt both Clintons are, so that's already baked in the cake. People already know this about her. The problem for her with this book is that it reinforces this idea that you're going to get this all over again for another four years.
HANNITY: ABC, NBC, CBS, and all the mainstream media, they've been pressured to ignore it. And now they're going to do what they did to every other person that ever tells the truth about the Clintons -- smear, slander, besmirch.
NIKPOUR: Besmirch. They cannot ignore this. They cannot ignore this. Look, you know what?
HANNITY: They're going to try and assassinate his character.
NIKPOUR: Absolutely. But here's the deal. Bill Clinton had actually a Teflon brand, because you remember when people were running, you know, for office. They looked for Bill Clinton's endorsement. Hillary Clinton does not have that Teflon brand. People -- there are a lot of people that just don't --
HANNITY: She's a horrible candidate, but she's not likable.
NIKPOUR: Look at "SNL." Look at her character as depicted on "SNL."
HANNITY: Yes, and she doesn't have Bill Clinton's charm. She doesn't have Barack Obama's prompter reading ability.
SCHOEN: But she has a six-point lead or more. She has a president with a 56 percent approval.
HANNITY: Oh, good grief.
SCHOEN: And she as an electoral college advantage, which makes her overwhelmingly --
HANNITY: That's what I worry about the most. I do worry the electoral map does not favor a Republican, ever.
CROWLEY: Look, over many decades the left has really done a number on this country, including flooding the zone in a lot of important states with illegals and all kinds of activity to try to tilt the map, OK. So they do have a built-in advantage.
But the fact that it is so tight in so many of these battle ground states given the fact that Donald Trump doesn't have much support within his own party, has never done this before, and essentially has no money is astonishing, Sean. And that tells me he can pull this whole thing off.
HANNITY: Brexit tells us a big part of the story, too, because immigration was a big part of what happened there. Similarly, the migration issue, all happening. You have the Orlando attacks, issues seem to be lining up on every front for Trump. Maybe because he had a couple bad weeks, but I thought a great week last week, if he keeps that up, does that change polls?
NIKPOUR: Phenomenal. And you know what, there are things going on, like some people are coming around. Woody Johnson, big supporter of Jeb Bush. When you walked into his office he had "Jeb!" He was part of a group that did a breakfast for Donald Trump I think last on Wednesday. This is good. They're slowly, slowly moving this way.
HANNITY: You know a lot of the big money people, a lot of news was made last week about the low number of money that he brought in, but he's also self-funding. Do these money people now come in?
NIKPOUR: You can look two ways. One way is he won the primary against a lot of the big money machines with not much money.
HANNITY: So he might not need as much.
NIKPOUR: You could look at it that way. You could look at it that he may not need it. He's the anti-establishment candidate and maybe that is part of his --
HANNITY: You know, Doug, if the Clintons run the traditional campaign, they tried to make the case that Donald Trump's position is racist, they're going to play the same old cards that they always play, I'm not sure this environment is the typical environment.
SCHOEN: Well, they're going to have $2 billion to see if you're right or wrong. They have a massive organization. They're focusing on the swing states. And as Noelle says, a massive financial advantage. And Donald Trump's approval rating is about 10-15 points lower than the secretary's.
HANNITY: That's not true. They're about even.
SCHOEN: It's 70 percent negative, 55 for Hillary. Look, Sean, have you to recognize this election is teed up for Hillary. Monica is right. It's very, very close. But the secretary of state is ahead in every swing state.
HANNITY: Barely.
CROWLEY: But I also think because Donald Trump is such a unique political persona, he's got a lot more running room to turn these numbers around versus, say, a traditionally Republican candidate who would start off --
HANNITY: Who would best help him as VP?
CROWLEY: I think Donald Trump has enough excitement on the ticket, so if I were he I would go with somebody who knows how to govern, maybe somebody a little bit more boring than Donald Trump, which would be good and offer reassurance. Trump has offered hope to a lot of voters, and now he has to offer reassurance. And he can do that by choosing somebody who knows how to govern.
HANNITY: Noelle, who do you like?
NIKPOUR: You know what, I think he needs to pick someone to where he can win Ohio ant especially the great state of Florida.
HANNITY: I don't think there's anyone there available. I would go with Newt Gingrich and then I'd build a team of rivals.
NIKPOUR: I love Newt. He can communicate with Congress.
HANNITY: Yes, 100 percent. And he can get the job done because Congress has no backbone and they're weak and timid and feckless and visionless.
(LAUGHTER)
HANNITY: I think that just about sums it up.
SCHOEN: All you're saying is that Hillary will be the next president.
HANNITY: No, I'm not saying that. I believe Donald Trump is going to win this election.
SCHOEN: I understand.
HANNITY: And I hope I'm right, because, you know what, four more years of Obama is something the country doesn't need.
CROWLEY: Can't afford.
HANNITY: We can't afford it.
When we come back, we need your help. A very important "Question of the Day," is about Gary Byrne's book, straight ahead.
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HANNITY: And time for our "Question of the Day." So, what did you think of the accusations in Gary Bryne's book about Hillary Clinton? I speak for myself. I believed every word of it. And you know what, that's sad. What we experienced in the 90s should never happen again.
Just go to Facebook.com/SeanHannity, tell us what you think, @SeanHannity on Twitter. That's all the time we have left this evening. Thanks for being with us. We'll see you back here tomorrow night.
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