This is a rush transcript from "The Five," June 22, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.
GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Hi, I'm Greg Gutfeld with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Juan Williams, Tucker Carlson and her full-length mirror is a compact, Dana Perino -- "The Five."
Calling Donald Trump's attack on Hillary today "a speech" is like calling D-Day a nature hike:
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DONALD TRUMP, PRESUMPTIVE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Hillary Clinton, and as you know she -- most people know, she's a world-class liar.
Hillary Clinton has perfected the politics of personal profit and even theft. She gets rich making you poor.
No secretary of state has been more wrong, more often and in more places --
Her decisions spread death, destruction and terrorism, everywhere she touched.
ISIS threatens us today because of the decisions Hillary Clinton has made.
Hillary Clinton may be the most corrupt person ever to seek the presidency of the United States.
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GUTFELD: There you go. He accused her of murder, corruption, lies, creating ISIS, appeasing enslavers and rapists, destroying the entire Middle East. The speech wasn't just a vehicle, it was a dump truck unloading steaming, wet garbage on Hillary's head. The only things he didn't blame her for were "Zoolander 2," man buns and coconut water.
GUTFELD: Yeah, I know. What you're seeing is "opposite-Romney." Trump not only takes off the gloves, he adds brass knuckles, a blow torch and death metal. He also employed political jiu-jitsu. Trump took the criticisms about his temperament, put them in a t-shirt cannon and fired them right back.
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TRUMP: She simply lacks the integrity and temperament to serve in the office. From the bottom of my soul, I know this to be true. Her leadership style, volcanic, impulsive, disdainful and disdainful of the rules set for everyone else, hasn't changed one bit.
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GUTFELD: Volcanic, impulsive; you could say the same about Trump and be right. It's Godzilla versus Mechagodzilla and it's going to get ugly, like Tyson versus Holyfield in '97: someone is going to lose an ear. But after Trump's bad week, he needed something to help him forget the financials that are trailing him like toilet paper on a flip-flop. He got stuff wrong today, but he got one thing really right: The wrong, condemning offshore practices he once did himself, exaggerating trade numbers, hitting globalism when Americans like its benefits, also condemning stuff that he was once for, but what he got right was really big.
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TRUMP: I am grateful beyond words to the nation that has allowed me to do it. So when people ask me why I am running, I very quickly answer, I'm running to give back to this country which has been so very good to me.
TRUMP: She believes she's entitled to the office. Her campaign slogan is "I'm with her." You know what my response is to that? I'm with you, the American people.
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GUTFELD: There you go. This is the pernicious globalism he should be hitting, reminding us that we come first, that America as an idea is worth keeping and fighting for. It's absurd to find that idea so refreshing, but in the age of Obama, saying such things is like belching in a crowded elevator.
And I should know. All right, Tucker. What did you make of the speech?
TUCKER CARLSON, GUEST CO-HOST: Well, I kind of agree with you about the Hillary stuff. I mean, it's emotionally satisfying to see the dump truck unload the garbage on her head, but I think we just count the stuff already because we know it to be true, even her supporters know that she's dishonest, not a news flash. He wins when he makes the point as he did, you didn't show the clip, but that we, America went off the rails when it substituted Americanism, policies that speak to the middle class from globalism.
CARLSON: Policies that speak to corporations. I mean, it's really easy, by the way, and this is true of most affluent people, including me, until recently, to care lot about the poor, and of course it's easy to care about the donor class that pays the bills, but caring about the middle class unfashionable, often overlooked, kind of dorky, that's the heart of America. You can't have a functioning democracy, or by the way, mark an economy without a robust, self-respecting middle class that is prospering, and we don't have one. If he sticks to that, he'll win.
GUTFELD: Juan, what did you make from the other side?
JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: Well, I really like that line about, "I'm with you ."
WILLIAMS: "American people." I thought that was great (inaudible), that was terrific. Now Hillary had a good one yesterday when she said, "I read Donald Trump's book, all of them end at Chapter 11.
WILLIAMS: That was very good, too. So we have two good lines as you said, Godzilla and Mechagodzilla, whatever. That was terrific. So, we have this dump truck unloading. The question is, what's the policy? So you have all this promise. Oh, you know what, she is not really for, as Tucker was saying, the middle class. We got to look out for the middle class, look after the American people. Where are Donald Trump's actual policies? That's what I thought was empty-handed here, because he talks about things that I've read, you know, tax hikes, but tax hikes for who? Tax cuts or I should say tax cuts for the very wealthy.
WILLIAMS: He talks about trade and it's very interesting, because you know that's an issue that appeals to Bernie Sanders' voters, right? Let's cut back on the trade issue. She's an internationalist, she's a globalist; I'm not, I'm America first. Hey, but guess what? When the economists look at it it's going to cost Americans jobs. So I say, let me hear your actual policies Mr. Trump, and then I'll make a decision.
GUTFELD: KG, what do you think of what Juan said, there was no substance to his promises.
KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: yeah, you know what I mean, that can come today. What I think he really needs to do is show that he was up to the task and give a little bit of a taste, you know, like a little sampler of what's to come in terms of why there are stark differences, a choice to be made here between choosing him as commander-in-chief and president and choosing Hillary Clinton. Yes, Tucker is right that people have heard these things, we kind of know it to be true, but I think when you've got sort of that like avalanche today, you know, viva basura. All the garbage at once from head, you're like, wow!
GUILFOYLE: That is a mess. There's no way to clean up the mess on aisle seven, like it's just bye, bad, out. So, I like that. And I think, just showing that her whole candidacy and this entitlement, the idea that she deserves it, you know, not the idea of trying to earn it and that, you know, I'm with her, and when he said he's with the American people. And I particularly loved the clever little book report, you know, it was like the Clinton task .
GUTFELD: Oh yes, Clinton task.
GUILFOYLE: . recitation, going through all of these things. I mean, my God, she even got jewels from the Saudis. I mean, she is like, bejewel me, I'll take your money, I'll take all your cash and I'll take the oval, hand it over. So that was the feeling that I got.
DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: That was an example of something that bothered me about the speech. There's a lot that I like about it, but one of the things that bothered me were things -- for example, the jewels. I mean, every first lady is given jewels from world leaders and those are actually the property of the American people. And if you want to keep them, you have to pay for them. If you don't, they go over to this like amazing room at the White House.
GUTFELD: I've been there.
PERINO: Yeah. It's like a little vault.
GUTFELD: It's not that place, but -- the place where, what George Washington -- George Bush library. They had all the gifts.
PERINO: Yeah, like one of -- President Kikwete gave President Bush a tiger -- no, a lion .
PERINO: . a stuffed lion that's in there. And so it actually that belongs to the American people, that's why it's at the library --
GUILFOYLE: She's not giving it back --
PERINO: But I think what people would -- if you're a republican and you've liked Trump all along, this you're saying, see, I told you guys. This is the guy who will fight for us. He will fight outlandish with even more outlandish. And I think that that might help a lot. The other problems that he has are significant, but I agree that there's not, there's time to fill in the blanks because when Hillary gave her economic speech on Tuesday? Monday? Didn't you call it yesterday on "Special Report," like something from a freshman doorman, where they were scratching out economic ideas?
CARLSON: It so banal.
CARLSON: That's not one -- when was the last time you heard Hillary say something interesting? She doesn't get credit for being as uninteresting as she is.
GUTFELD: Yeah. Well, she's been --
CARLSON: For me.
GUTFELD: We're also, we're also too --
GUTFELD: We've heard from her for so long. So why don't we hear from her right now. This is her slamming Trump today, earlier. Let's roll that.
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HILLARY CLINTON, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: The self-proclaimed king of debt has no real ideas for making college more affordable or addressing the student debt crisis.
CLINTON: He has no credible plan for rebuilding our infrastructure, apart from his wall. He has no real strategy for creating jobs, just a string of empty promises. And maybe we shouldn't expect better from someone whose most famous words are -- you're fired. He's going after me personally because he has no answers on the substance.
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GUTFELD: Says a voice of a songbird.
PERINO: I think her audience loves it, though.
PERINO: I mean, there are -- it seems there's not a laugh track. I mean the people there in the audience there, they're excited, there's enthusiasm for the president -- for her to be the president if you're a democrat. And the opposite -- if you're at a Trump rally, you're going to get all of those lines. So the camps are fully set up.
CARLSON: It's like a Bill Maher, show, though.
CARLSON: It' like -- God! Another thing! I'm glad to have her for something.
PERINO: I never watch that.
CARLSON: No matter what she says, they're going to cheer. I love --
CARLSON: We need supply-side economics! Yeah!
GUTFELD: A lot of stuff she said. Trump also said about infrastructure, about trade, there was some things about -- bringing jobs back and everything.
GUTFELD: Some of the stuff could have been interchangeable, KG.
GUILFOYLE: No, I think you're right. But it also depends on, you know, whose jersey you're wearing, right?
GUILFOYLE: Like who -- what's your team? What's your home team? Who do you want to win? So, in both of those speeches, when you juxtapose them like we are, there are shots up there. You see something for everybody. That's like a Hillary supporter, you've got the red meat there for like the Trump supporters and they're into that, because it what they want to hear, and you want to have enthusiasm, you know for your candidate. And the reason why Trump has done as well as he has, is because people are like, listen, this guy is an outsider, he's going to do things differently, he knows how to win, he knows was to make good deals. And he's kind of -- he has an advantage when you stand up there to talk about the jobs and the economy because he is a business person. He comes -- obviously, you know, from that sector.
WILLIAMS: Well, let me just say. I think we've seen now these two speeches, and I think it's important to understand or establish the larger context, which is Hillary Clinton is leading in the polls. Hillary Clinton is leading on most issues, policy wise with voters, but the one, big one that she's not leading on -- economics.
WILLIAMS: American voters think Donald Trump would do a better job in terms of handling the economy. That's why Hillary Clinton, I think is taking a proactive, attacking stance so early, going after Trump on this. So what does she say? She says, hey, look at all those failed casinos. Oh, don't forget, look at all of those people whose bills have not been paid by the great Donald Trump. And then she -- and then this week, Moody's Analytics came out and they said, oh, we looked at Trump's policies. We look at what he's prescribing. There would be more unemployment in the country. There would be lower wages in the country. And she is citing those statistics coming from, in fact, I think Moody's Analytics, they used to be on the Romney team, right?
PERINO: I don't know.
CARLSON: But here's why it doesn't work. She can't have a coherent economic message, because she's torn between two opposing and equal forces. She's got on one side the Bernie factor. She needs to win over his voters in order to win. And on the other side, she needs the banks. She needs Wall Street, the finance sector to finance -- to continue to finance her campaign. And they have diametrically opposed visions of what (inaudible) can do. So Trump can say whatever he wants, because he -- the one thing you can say about him, he actually isn't beholden to anybody, as we learned yesterday.
CARLSON: 1.3 million in bank.
CARLSON: You know what I mean, you know. It's his bank --
CARLSON: No, that's true.
GUTFELD: But that could change, because this starts begging for money, he might be beholden even more.
CARLSON: It's hard to see how a guy -- and I'm not (inaudible) for the guy. But the one thing you can say about him, he's so unpredictable.
CARLSON: The only thing he could be reading a script from some donor, probably not.
GUTFELD: Yeah. But what's being in script? How did you feel about his delivery today with the -- he does a prompter, but then he feels compelled to go off a little bit.
PERINO: But that -- actually, that's probably a pretty good blend for him, right? Like --
PERINO: That's like making the pivot in his way.
PERINO: And I -- because the stiltedness of a teleprompter from the beginning. It was like, I don't understand, like it's amazing like that there's a news story that somebody is using a teleprompter, but that's like how incredibly ridiculous some of those campaigning is. I thought today was actually pretty good blend, if you can have a prepared script that's basically like bullet points .
PERINO: . and then add in your own special flair? That's perfect.
WILLIAMS: Yeah, I thought it was not Lewandowski. I think this is Manafort. He's sticking to the -- he really didn't go off script very much.
WILLIAMS: And I thought it was pretty effective. I mean, in terms of Trump, I thought he delivered the message. That's why you were able to play good bytes right at the top, coming from Trump.
GUILFOYLE: Figure that out, you are the message. Yeah, I think he's doing quite well with it, because he's not, you know politician, you know, by trade, but what he is, is his comfortable in his own skin and with his decisions -- hopefully good ones.
GUTFELD: Yeah. Teleprompter, after a while gets very easy to learn. All right, next --
GUTFELD: A big admission from Bernie Sanders.
GUTFELD: And an appeal today by Donald Trump for -- the democrats' voters. Stay tuned.
GUILFOYLE: At first of Bernie Sanders today, the democratic socialist finally admitted he's likely not going to be his party's nominee.
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STEVE SCULLY, SENIOR EXECUTIVE PRODUCER FOR THE C-SPAN: Have you begun to prepare your speech for the convention? Will you speak at the convention?
BERNIE SANDERS, PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Well, you know it's hard to say that is -- it doesn't appear that I'm going to be the nominee, so I'm not going to be determining the scope of the convention.
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GUILFOYLE: You don't say.
GUILFOYLE: So, who will his supporters turn to? This is fascinating. A new poll out today shows nearly half of Bernie Sanders' supporters won't get behind Hillary Clinton, 22 percent of those say they will vote for Trump. The presumptive GOP nominee made an appeal for Sanders voters, earlier. Take a listen.
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TRUMP: We'll never be able to fix a rigged system by counting on the same people who have rigged it in the first place. The insiders wrote the rules of the game to keep themselves in power and in the money. That's why we're asking Bernie Sanders voters to join our movement. So together, we can fix the system for all Americans, so important.
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GUILFOYLE: There you go. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is a pitch. So he threw it out there, Tucker, to say hey, I want you guys, we got a Trump tent here in gold, made out of gold, and we're welcoming you in that.
CARLSON: Well, I love the fact that Sanders is finally conceding he's not going to be the nominee. He's Mr. Delayed reaction.
CARLSON: I'm not taking marijuana, but will he admit --
CARLSON: So the economics don't work?
GUTFELD: Yeah. At some point, he's still a socialist.
GUTFELD: He's still a socialist.
CARLSON: He's still (inaudible) the (inaudible), but he's, at least admitting --
CARLSON: That he's not going to be the nominee. No, I mean Trump has said this from like almost the beginning, for months ago, I could win Bernie voters and people mocked him, but there is a convergence. Certainly there is on trade, but it's bigger than just trade. I mean the average person has no idea what's in the TBB. In fact, nobody knows what's in TBB, but nobody -- the South Korean trade deals, like its opaque to the average person, but the notion that the system is rigged for a small group of people, 95 percent of the income gains that Obama go to top 1 percent, that's not a hard message. And by the way, it doesn't have to be a message that is exclusive to the left, it shouldn't be. It's not an attack on capitalism. It doesn't need to be an attack on capitalism. It's merely making the point you're going to get an unstable society if you have a concentration of wealth that's like what we're seeing here. It's just not --
CARLSON: It's just not, you know, that can't last forever.
GUILFOYLE: Yeah. All right Greg, so what do you make of it?
GUTFELD: I think --
GUILFOYLE: By the way .
GUILFOYLE: . some of the numbers kind of surprising because --
GUTFELD: It's very surprising, very surprising because I was, I was one of the original people to mock this idea that there was going to be a migration of Sanders people. So there's 22 percent I think is huge and big, because I don't understand how a supporter of a socialist can be a supporter for a capitalist, and also, a socialist who is so ignorant of national security. At least we know that Trump is a nationalist and is willing to like, you know, fight, you know beyond our borders in case we're threatened. I don't know anything about Sanders when it comes to national security. But, then I thought about a lot of Sanders supporters don't care about national security.
GUTFELD: And they don't also understand economic policy. They're just ticked off. So maybe one out of five can go to Trump, because they're non- ideological anyway -- that could be it.
GUILFOYLE: Dana, from like, you know, a language and you know word choice type of thing. It was very interesting because he was really hitting on that theme of outsiders and you can't fix the system if you go with someone who has been on the inside. They're part of what's rigged it all along. What do you think about that?
PERINO: Definitely worth a pitch, because there -- these people feel like they don't have anywhere to go, but I think we're actually missing one, one person and it is Gary Johnson, the libertarian candidate. If you look at the report, the poll out of Utah today, the youth there, 18 to 34, that 36 percent of them have -- they have Gary Johnson at the top. That's a libertarian candidate. Then it was Hillary, then it was somebody else, and then Trump. That end up, of course, that's Utah that's little bit different. But I'm -- but growing up out there, I won't surprise. I'm not surprised. It has changed a lot like Colorado and Utah, Wyoming, the youth out there like the libertarians a lot, because pretty much, they just want to be left alone. I don't know if the rigging of the game is enough to convince a lot of the Bernie Sanders voters to come over, but remember also what Bernie Sanders has said before, which is, it is his mission to make sure Donald Trump does not become president. So, to the extent that any of these young people are so going to listen to Bernie Sanders after this, some of them definitely will vote for Trump, but I think the majority of them will take the lead from Bernie or a president that they like, Obama.
GUTFELD: You know -- would quite, it's funny because you may look at the choices, you know, if you look at Hillary, she's like the evil stepmother and Trump is her eccentric uncle. Gary Johnson is like your whacky older brother with 400 grateful dead boot legs --
PERINO: And a bunch of weeds.
GUTFELD: That was the -- that's was not I meant.
GUILFOYLE: Stop that nothing --
GUILFOYLE: Stop that nothing. Tucker -- yeah.
WILLIAMS: But I will say that -- in the interview that we saw on C-Span, Bernie Sanders also said, he doesn't think Trump is going to get his voters. He said Trump is a bigot and anti-worker. And then he wants to some issues like minimum wage, immigration, taxes, guns, global warming. There's a big difference.
GUTFELD: The immigration, especially.
WILLIAMS: So there's a huge difference. And then one, one last thing Tucker, when you look at '08, the last time we had a serious contest on the democratic side, guess what, even after the primary was over, a huge number of Clinton's backers said, "I'll never vote for Obama."
WILLIAMS: And what happened by the time we got to November, it was like 90 percent of them ended up voting .
PERINO: But she --
WILLIAMS: . for Obama. They didn't stay home.
PERINO: But Hillary Clinton did something that Bernie Sanders isn't -- is not doing, and it should probably do very soon, which is she was very gracious. She took the loss like a pro and she said, "I'm asking for as hard as it is for me to have this loss. I'm asking if you want -- if you want to make me feel better, we have to get behind Obama."
WILLIAMS: Well, I think one other point, though is that McCain was viewed unfavorably by about 23 percent of democrats, right? So as an option, are you going to with Obama or McCain? But you know what? McCain wasn't viewed that badly by democrats; 23 percent only viewed him unfavorably.
PERINO: That was just problem on the right.
WILLIAMS: But then, when you come to Trump, it's like, my God, 89% percent view him unfavorably among democrats.
CARLSON: One quick thing that you said, you said immigration is a deal- killer for Bernie Supporters. If you care about wages, why would you support mass immigration, which of course lowers wages?
CARLSON: The supply and demand.
WILLIAMS: What happens if you are an immigrant?
CARLSON: If he -- if you care --
WILLIAMS: What happens if you are Hispanic, Latino?
CARLSON: It is not a racial thing.
WILLIAMS: Oh. I see.
CARLSON: It's a question of numbers. And by the way, if you care about the environment, why would you want millions more people coming? China is an environmental disaster because it's over populated. New Zealand is an environmental paradise because it's not. It's not good for the environment. It's not good for wages --
PERINO: But Tucker, nobody --
PERINO: But Tucker, nobody said that Bernie Sanders voters are intellectually consistent.
CARLSON: But you can make the case if you're smart enough to do --
PERINO: It's Bernie who makes the case.
CARLSON: No one is doing it, right?
GUTFELD: (inaudible) case, right?
CARLSON: Because he's smart.
GUILFOYLE: Right. Real quick, Dana, did you think that Trump made the case for his first hundred days, because he had to specify some things that people, we don't have time for the SOT, but he talked about what he would do about repealing ObamaCare, taking care of immigration .
GUILFOYLE: . lift restrictions on energy production and pass a massive tax reform to create millions of new jobs --
PERINO: I think what he actually did, instead of worrying about his first hundred days as president, I think what he just did is to try to sure up the losses that he had in the last 100 days, and he did a pretty job of it.
GUILFOYLE: All right. And the lead was Supreme Court justices could be up to even, you know, maybe in forth.
Coming up, democratic lawmakers stage a rare sit-in on the House floor to demand a vote on gun control. The dramatic Capitol Hill protest, next.
PERINO: Last week, the FBI director said the bureau could not have done anything differently to have prevented the massacre. But now, yet another person has come forward to say he warned the agency about Mateen, two years ago; a friend who attended the same mosque.
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MOHAMMAD MALIK, OMAR MATEEN'S FRIEND: Omar had mentioned to me that he had seen videos of Anwar al-Awlaki, which threw up a red flag for me. And I asked him what he thought of them and he told me they were very powerful, which raised a flag even more for me. After that, I contacted the FBI and (inaudible). Look, you know, this is a gentleman. At that point he was in a second marriage, he had a son. He was starting his family. I didn't think he fit the profile, but just in case, I wanted them to, you know, look into it so that nothing bad would happen to anybody.
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PERINO: Meanwhile, Attorney General Loretta Lynch has an unconventional idea of how we should be fighting terrorists -- kill them with kindness.
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LORETTA LYNCH, ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES: Our most effective response to terror and to hatred is compassion, to unity and its love.
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PERINO: Kimberly, let's start with the develop Muslim at the same mosque as Mateen, who goes going to the FBI -- he's doing everything that we've asked them to do which is, if you see something, say something you're worried, and not that the FBI can get everything perfect, but they missed it.
GUILFOYLE: I mean it's just tough it is so tough to take. And when I -- I just think about those 49 lives that were taken, you know, and how this should have and could have been prevented. And you have someone like this, a man coming forward, doing what we have implored, you know, the Muslim community to do. It's like let's be in this together. Let's all help one another. You see something, say something. Let us know if something is amiss because you've got unique eyes and ears on a situation in real-time and you really might be on to something that maybe you think it's in insignificant.
But not to someone else that can put the pieces together and may have gotten another call about that person. So, I'm so glad that this man came forward to say that he did this. I hope it encourages other people to do so and then, you know, obviously nobody feels worse about this, you know than the FBI, right? Because there were some definite signs, there was information coming forward. And, you know, they do, God bless, the best job that they can, but this is tough to take.
DANA PERINO: Any thoughts on this, Tucker?
CARLSON: Well yeah, this is one of a number of instances where this exact same thing happens, his co-workers ...
CARLSON: ... at the security firm reported him to authorities, who concluded that he was working in a hostile work environment. It was their fault. I mean, look, this is a violation of the basic agreement we have with government. I send more than half of my income to the government to do a lot of things I don't like, but the basic thing they do is do their best to keep me safe.
They failed in this case and yet rather than admitting that, they're blaming me and every other gun owner in America for this crime.
TUCKER: They're saying it's your fault. Members of Congress standing up and lecturing us, this is your fault America, you have the wrong kind of firearms, you're dangerous. Actually, no it's not. We pay to you to prevent things like this from happening and yet you blame me when it happens? It's too much.
PERINO: You want to comment on this on, some with this on Tucker.
GUTFELD: Yeah, just -- I think the good news is that we're working hard on gender-neutral bathrooms.
CARLSON: Yes ...
GUTFELD: So while we're letting these things happen in San Bernardino, in Fort Hood, and the scum in Orlando and what he did, because people are fearful of actually saying something, because they might be accused of Islamophobia, but we're still tackling the stuff that matters and that's gender-free bathrooms and ...
CARLSON: I'm really glad about that.
GUILFOYLE: Well by the way men are filming young girls going in a Target. No, this is true, they're -- read it, one, and they're going in and filming young girls as they're changing in the changing room because the Target say you can be in there. That's where our focus on.
WILLIAMS: Yeah, I can see, but allow me say, how are you going to say Islamophobia, the guy is a Muslim. The guy who said this stuff, who warned the FBI but remember.
GUTFELD: I think the pursuit -- the pursuit people are fearful of harming their careers if they're seen as Islamophobic. And it's good that he did it. But remember, the neighbors in San Bernardino were afraid to say something. People knew the psychiatrist at Fort Hood was up to no good but they were scared to say something. And it is true.
WILLIAMS: You know, there's a lot of Monday morning quarterbacking. And people say, oh yeah, that's why they say -- they are the ones.
GUTFELD: This show is about Monday morning quarterbacking.
WILLIAMS: No, no, it's important here that we set a precedent. I mean clearly we have been, as Kimberly was saying, imploring the Muslim community ...
WILLIAMS: ... to be cooperative with law enforcement. Here is the guy who did it. But contrary to what I'm hearing, in fact the FBI checked this guy out aggressively twice. But they came to the conclusion they had no constitutional basis, right, for in fact either holding him in prison, putting him in jail or ...
GUILFOYLE: Put him on a delayed gun list.
WILLIAMS: Suspended his right.
GUILFOYLE: Put him on a delayed list.
GUTFELD: Valid for that maybe you would.
WILLIAMS: OK, so you would check him out.
GUTFELD: The big question is -- I mean the big point is, he didn't fit the profile. What does that tell you that the profile is changing? If you watch "The Americans" on FX, they come to America and they raise a family.
PERINO: Right they are family.
GUTFELD: Yeah, the KGB, that's how they did it. That's what's happening now, get married, raise a family ...
PERINO: Look like you care.
GUTFELD: Look like you care and then there's no profile.
GUILFOYLE: So who else did that? San Bernardino.
WILLIAM: Yeah, this guy is going clean, in San Bernardino ...
GUTFELD: Yeah, you got ...
WILLIAMS: ... the difference was the wife, the wife that came over.
GUTFELD: Yeah, but the wife could have been a front.
WILLIAMS: Well, I don't know, but I'm just saying, you know, when you have the FBI do their job, they can only do it up to -- I mean we live in a free society. If I say, you know Greg looks weird to me today you say that, that's not a reason to put you in jail.
PERINO: Can I get at ...
GUTFELD: But your right, this is a free society we'll always be at risk. We know that, so let's protect ourselves.
GUILFOYLE:: Now they're going to look like, you know, the Beaver Cleaver family, the Huxtables, like that's what's they'll going to look like, they're going to fit and assimilate. Oh, they're just like us and you wouldn't suspect.
PERINO: But I think one comment from Tucker on the Loretta Lynch's comments about, you know, killing them with kindness, love, unity for ISIS.
CARLSON: You know that was all -- it's too easy that that's T-ball and I just felt as a ...
PERINO: You're more of a baseball player?
CARLSON: ... as a professional here, as a professional analyst, I just -- I didn't, I felt bad.
WILLIMS: Can I simply -- can I just defend.
GUILFOYLE: I'll tell you, he's worse than Eric Holder.
WILLIAMS: Oh men.
CARLSON: That's what I would like to say.
PERINO: I would go in to defend you.
GUTFELD: I would like to defend her because I think -- she might be, but when she's talking about love and compassion, she's talking about the community. That has to be paired with, you know ...
GUTFELD: ... security and exacting justice. If that's missing, then compassion is pointless, right? You've got to have that -- you've got to have the big stick.
CARLSON: If the AR-15 is missing, it's all pointless. So the message here -- no I'm serious why should I not be -- why am I the threat?
WILLIAMS: You, if you have an AR-15 why are you the threat?
CARLSON: Yes, why am I the treat? I pay my taxes, I don't break the law, I'm not a radical Muslim. Why I am treat to anybody, A and B, why should I get a lot to protect my family then? What future?
WILLIAMS: You know, we're doing this weapon of war?
GUTFELD: Is that what?
PERINO: That is not a weapon of war. It's not a military and raid weapon.
GUTFELD: No, look Juan, Juan, (inaudible) but a metaphor for you.
GUTFELD: You know when a kid who's 18 buys a Toyota Corolla and zoops (ph) it up. He puts lights around the license plate.
GUILFOYLE: Oh yeah.
GUTFELD: He puts new rims, that's the gun. It's just a 22 gun that's painted black and has little gadgets added.
WILLIAMS: Yeah, and here's the thing about ...
GUILFOYLE: the weapon of war equivalent is the M-16, OK, so let's ...
WILLIAMS: OK, a magazine ...
GUTFELD: ... Armalite rifle, that could have.
GUILFOYLE: You know why? Because you have dodo birds talking that know nothing about weapons.
PERINO: It is not talking about this show. Now ahead, some twisted logic from a co-host on "The View"" she accuses Donald Trump of provoking the assassination attempts against him this weekend, and you're going to hear that next.
CARLSON: Well this weekend, a British man here in the country illegally -- an illegal alien was arrest for trying to assassinate Presidential Candidate Donald Trump.
There's no possible way to justify the attempted assassination of course, but one of the co-hosts on "The View" a daytime program did yesterday implying that Trump is to blame for provoking the lunatic who wanted to kill him. Watch this.
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SUNNY HOSTIN, ABC "THE VIEW" SENIOR LEGAL CORRESPONDENT & ANALYST: It's wrong what happened. I mean, you never supposed to violently try to take someone out because of their views.
But with the Trump campaign and all that campaign rhetoric, to incite violence, I mean, he did say, you know, "I should punch this guy out", one of the protesters.
It makes me wonder whether or not that campaign, the vileness of it and all the rhetoric is going to bring more people out of the woodwork like that.
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CARLSON: So, Juan, how is this different from blaming an assault victim for her own assault. I mean, for being dressed provocatively. She's blaming the target of an attempted assassination.
JUAN: Well, I don't think there's any justification for it, because I mean -- she even used the term, violent. I mean, there's no way that someone is going to try to kill me and you say, oh yeah, Juan -- why did Juan say that or do that?
GUTFELD: I see some of your -- the letters.
WILLIAMS: Oh, I know, I know, I did blame for a lot around here. But, I'm just telling you, I don't think there's any excuse for it.
Now, she is right to this extent. The context and violence we have seen at Trump events and rallies, whether it's come from people who are agitative, by being Trump's blame some Sanders people in the past or we've seen violence inside Trump rallies.
If that's what she's saying that, "Oh gee, there's a pattern here," I understand. But you can't blame somebody who is the target of an assassination.
CARLSON: So, I mean, do you forfeit your right to your life or to your exercise to the First Amendment if you say things the left disagrees with?
GUTFELD: If you -- imagine if you said that about other assassination attempts.
CARLSON: Well, I know.
GUTFELD: I mean, I would even -- I could mention some very -- to some very famous names. If you had said that you would not have a career, you would be frog-marched out of the building.
But, you know what, it's our fault. Getting politics or any political opinions from "The View," is like getting career advice from the homeless, it's on you.
So, I don't think it's like, you know, it doesn't make sense. I don't know. The point about blaming the victim is I think the most important thing here.
And I do -- to Juan's point, I don't think any Trump fans ever went to anybody else's rallies to pick fights, right? I don't think that have happened.
CARLSON: So, I feel Dana, I mean, not to make some dippy generalization about America, but it does feel like there's an acceleration cycle of lunatic rhetoric going on.
PERINO: Well, the more outrageous, the more you get attention and you get a little sound byte on The Five later on. I mean, that's how you get attention.
Let's be clear, this is a British man, he's 20-years-old, he had never even shot a gun except for like two days before he have had this idea in his head that somebody was telling him to kill Donald Trump.
So, he should have practiced a little bit more care. And I think one of the reasons that the FBI or Secret Service, like let's just get this out. You don't want copycats.
GUTFELD: He's mentally ill. I mean ...
CARLSON: Wait! -- give "The View" credit for at least mentioning it. I didn't see this in any other news outlets.
I mean, so, here is -- the presidential candidate of the one of major parties, someone tries to assassinate him, an illegal alien tries and nobody notices?
GUILFOYLE: Yeah. So, I know, I read about this, I'm like, wow, why isn't this, you know, the lead people talking about this.
So, it is important to get it out there and then I love the fact that they moved in on a very quickly to be able to do something about it because you can't have a situation like this.
And especially, when you have somebody, obviously he has serious psychological problems if he's hearing voices or something that maybe ...
PERINO: And he's tried to take officer's gun.
GUILFOYLE: Yeah. I mean ...
GUTFELD: That was his plan for a year.
GUILFOYLE: .... that's right. So, when he's had these kinds of thoughts about it where he's been, you know, really focusing on and obsessing on. And it's a dangerous situation.
I mean, I think for anybody that runs for office or serves in public office to see -- we saw happen over in, you know, one of the British parliament members that was killed, it's very tough ...
WILLIAMS: You know what's interesting to me is so Trump was on "Fox & Friends," and they asked him about it and he was like, I don't care -- yeah.
But, I think part of it is that the guy didn't come close. That the authorities were able to disarm, he never got the gun, they stopped him quickly. And it's interesting to me that you guys are willing to talk about the fact, as Greg said, that he's mentally ill in this situation.
GUTFELD: Well, it's actually -- there's no ideology like Islamism behind him. He's definitely, he's looking to -- he had serious mental issues and people knew about it.
WILLIAMS: Right, because someone paid him.
GUILFOYLE: Because someone was telling him to ...
GUTFELD: Yes, yeah.
WILLIAMS: He's drunk (ph) -- that's what it is.
CARLSON: All right. Next up, do you hate your job? Do you wish you could quit right now today? Would you do that without giving notice to your employer?
Well, a growing number of workers, most of them, young, are doing that. But are the consequences worth the short-term satisfaction they gain from giving the finger to the man. Up next.
DONNIE AZOFF: What work -- what do you do?
JORDAN BELFORT: I'm a stock broker.
AZOFF: Stock broker?
AZOFF: Jobs furniture (ph). I tell you what, you show me a pay stub for $72,000, and I quit my job right now and I work for you.
Hey, Paulie, what's up? No, yeah, everything is fine. Hey listen, I quit.
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WILLIAMS: A lot of people fantasize about doing just that, saying, "Sayonara" to that crummy job.
According to "The Wall Street Journal", a growing number of employees are actually doing it. Telling their bosses I quit and giving no notice.
Some are young employees who may feel frustrated by the limited prospects of their jobs or they have little attachment to the job.
But others are older employees who may feel overworked, underappreciated after their years of labor. So, could that hasty exit hurt job prospects later? Or is it just the new reality? What do you think, Dana?
PERINO: Well, I think that if you see something that is unethical or criminal and nobody -- you can't right the wrong and you cannot be a part of it, it's acceptable, or if you win the lottery. That would be acceptable. But, otherwise, as I give the two weeks' notice, don't burn a bridge, try to stick it out. Two weeks goes by fast.
GUTFELD: One of your job is burning bridges. Like you work for the burning bridges ...
PERINO: But you could do it two more weeks.
GUILFOYLE: Oh my God. Don't encourage them (ph).
WILLIAMS: Right, you know, what was interesting to me in this is how the world changes, because at my age I think, whoa, you know, what, you work for a company for a long time and -- but in fact, according to the numbers here, this is so shocking to me, it says here workers 20-24 change jobs every 16 months, 25-34 every three years, 25 and over, they change jobs every five years. So it's now in America, the job market are constant churning.
CARLSON: But that's not what this is about. This is thoughtlessness. I mean, for ones, having been fired with four kids, I'm always grateful to work for one. And even if you're not grateful to work, you ought to be polite enough not to do this to an employer. I'm mad when people do it to me as an employer. And I'll tell you the problem is the internet, which -- the whole message of the internet, take three steps back, it's you're a precious snowflake.
Your voice matters. We care about you. The message to the workplace is, we don't care about you at all, shut up and work. And so that is, you know, cognitively dissonant to millennials and they're like what? You are not listening to my feelings.
CARLSON: You don't care about me as a person. And then they split.
GUTFELD: But there's a greater message here and I've said as many times, anything that feels really, really good is wrong.
PERINO: Don't do it.
GUTFELD: All fantasies are bad. The idea of quitting your job feels so good, that you know it must be bad. And to your point, the only people who can get away with this are people who don't have kids.
CARLSON: It's exactly right.
GUTFELD: This is a luxury for people with no responsibilities like me.
WILLIAMS: Well, but so -- but Kimberly
PERINO: Oh, do you have something to tell us?
WILLIAMS: Here's a thing. A lot of these people say if you don't take a new job offer immediately, that employer could rescind the offer while you're in that two-week interim. So you want to jump at the new job or you say, hey, get lost to the old boss.
GUILFOYLE: Yeah, this is so bad and every time I talk to a young person we do mentoring and there's a lot of it, I tell them, do not -- you may want to have a career change or a job change, et cetera, one, you better treat people with class and second, you never know when one of those people will be the boss at the next job. You might need a good recommendation, a review, et cetera, don't burn bridge, be courteous, be appreciative to have that job. There maybe a day you'll wish you were back at that job you thought was beneath you, and then for sure don't quit your job without having another offer and give appropriate notice.
As you would want to, you know, we wouldn't leave somebody hanging like that, it's always -- I haven't seen it turn out well at all when people are like, "Oh, I'm done, I quit, I'll just look around and then I'll find something." That never works out.
PERINO: Yeah right.
WILLIAMS: Having you here today I sense you got upset. Somebody has turned this into reality in your work life?
CARLSON: Actually I still have a laptop of one of my employees.
WILLIAMS: All right. One more thing, up next.
GUTFELD: One more thing, one.
WILLIAMS: All right. Have you ever walked on water? Well, go to Italy. It's possible. The artist known as Christo, has installed a new art exhibit on lake Iseo, and it's called floating piers, here's how it works. It consists of 100,000 square meters of beautiful glistening yellow-orange fabric. You can see it there. And what they do is they attach it to more than 220,000 floating cubes and they attach those over some concrete floating buoys.
Unbelievable, the result is two miles of walkways that consist of two connect -- I should say two small islands, to the small town of Sulzano. The exhibit is a work in progress. They've been trying to put this together for 15 years.
GUTFELD: You know this guy ...
WILLIAMS: But it's only going to last for 16 days, so get your flight to Italy now, closes July 3rd.
GUTFELD: This is the only artist where people die. You know that? Well, like they build the stuff and it falls over, there's been casualties because of ...
WILLIAMS: But they had the gates in central park. And ...
GUTFELD: Who is next?
PERINO: OK, because I want to you meet this guy. His name is Joseph Okal. He is a chess coach and he led the girl's team in Englewood, Chicago, to a national championship. But guess what, he has been expelled from the Chicago teachers' union for choosing to coach the team instead of taking part in a union's one-day walkout in April. This is according to a CBS2 report.
PERINO: This is the letter expelling him. He doesn't know if he will have a job because of this decision. And here's him talking about it.
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JOSEPH OKAL, CHESS COACH: I think it's all a matter of the principles we take in our lives. I can be a sacrificial lamb. But it's the kids that I am concerned about.
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PERINO: So, that's the kind of teacher that you think, you know, who would do the right thing on behalf of the kids. And he, Joseph Okal, is going to be on Megyn Kelly's show tonight to talk about it.
GUTFELD: Well, I think the union made a bad move. All right.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Greg's sports corner.
GUTFELD: I'm going to show you the best soccer clip there is if you're not familiar with soccer, it's a sport where you can't use your hands, and if something happens you fall down and cry. This is Cristiano Ronaldo, is that his name, being interviewed? See he used his hands. He used his hands, there you go. That's why soccer is so exciting. All right, I speed through that, so Kimberly go.
GUILFOYLE: OK, all right, he's hot. But I don't know what else you're doing with that. OK. So, Tim Tebow and Shaquille O'Neal were among a group of local athletes who visited Orlando. This is really fantastic. They went to the regional medical center on Monday to comfort the victims of last week's terror attack.
They both have connections to the area. Tebow as you know grew up in Jacksonville, went to the University of Florida, and O'Neal lives in Orlando currently and played his first four seasons with the Orlando Magic. Tebow in particular, I don't know if you remember the story, it's heartwarming about the bartender who was injured and they had someone holding him to stop the bleeding. Well, that was Tebow's high school teammate, Rodney Sumpter, and really incredible story. Nice of them to do.
CARLSON: OK, a confession, I like James Carville. Yes, he is -- I know you can't understand him. Yes, his politics are stupid but he is a great man and hilarious. And tomorrow night he's being roasted at the Kennedy Center in Washington, I'm a part of it, Bob Saget is hosting it. It should be hilarious.
I don't know, I guess Al Jazeera (ph) in a business. I don't know if we can watch that, probably C-SPAN, but he should.
GUTFELD: Very handsome man.
PERINO: You know -- Steve Scully from C-SPAN getting the shout out on live cast.
GUTFELD: All right, "Special Report" is up next. Unicorn.
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