Newt Gingrich slams the left's failure to see the reality of terror

On 'Hannity,' former House speaker shares his thoughts about the terrorist rampage in Orlando


This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," June 13, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." And this is a Fox News Alert. New reports indicate authorities are now looking into the possibility that the Orlando nightclub terrorist, Omar Mateen -- he may have had an accomplice in the deadliest terror attack on U.S. soil since 9/11.

Now, Fox News has also learned that the jihadist may have scouted out other locations to carry out a deadly rampage, including Disney World.

On the ground tonight in Orlando is Fox News senior correspondent Geraldo Rivera. Geraldo, what's going on?

GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Sean, I don't think I credit the accounts of possible accomplice. I think that would be very -- very much out of the ordinary. I don't believe it. I think this was a lone wolf.

And whether you think this story is about gun control or hate crime or Muslim immigration or terrorism, one thing everybody agrees, that there are 102 families here in the Orlando area who are grieving...

HANNITY: It's about radical Islam, Geraldo.

RIVERA: ... at various levels tonight...

HANNITY: It's about radical Islamists.

RIVERA: OK. Let's say -- let's -- let's -- let's take that, Sean, and absolutely, it is about that. But it is also about these families that are grieving.

Take a look around. This is all one family, one of 102 families in the Orlando area who either lost someone, one of the 49 who were murdered, like this family, or the 53 who were injured, most of whom now, the wounded, are recovering. This is the family of Jimmy De Jesus Velazquez (ph), a 52- year-old man who was in that nightclub, the Pulse Orlando -- 50-year-old.  Sorry, 50-year-old man -- the relative is correcting me. He's a great dancer and young for his age, Jimmy was. And they are remembering him with great fondness.

But you may remember, Chris -- Chris and I did an interview together.  Chris and Carlos were with Jimmy inside the Pulse Orlando nightclub 44 hours ago. It was just 44 hours ago when the fiend, Omar Mateen, the radical Islamist extremist murdering dog perpetrated his savage violence against these innocent people, including Jimmy. Carlos and Chris escaped.

Chris -- before Chris gives us his account, more and more aunties are arriving. They -- these are Jimmy's sisters are arriving from Costa Rica courtesy of JetBlue, a wonderful, wonderful company.

But Carlos, I know that you feel very strongly that one of the reasons this tragedy was as bloody as it was was because the exit doors were locked, and the only way you could get out was to get through that killer who was mowing down people.

Just tell me your experience and your frustration and where you and Jimmy separated.

CARLOS MUNIZ, FRIEND OF VICTIM: To begin with, it's not only that because how come they didn't search anybody when they walk in the door? So what happened to security? How come they have bouncers but they didn't search the people? How come that person was inside the club before, and he had the audacity to walk out the vest (ph) and get armed and come in with a rifle and do what he did?

RIVERA: Where were you when you realized what was happening?

MUNIZ: I was right by the VIP section, right by the bathrooms, going towards the patio.

RIVERA: And then what did you hear? Tell me what you hear.

MUNIZ: I hear -- we heard the first two shots. We thought it was the music that was going on. And right after that, the shots started going back like, Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And all we did, we just throw ourself on the floor. And my first reaction was to grab Christian and drag him into the bathroom.

RIVERA: So you were among the 15 people who were inside that restroom.

MUNIZ: Everybody was in there.

RIVERA: And did you -- how did you keep the killer from going into that bathroom?

MUNIZ: There was at least 30 people inside that bathroom. And there was three of them holding the door. He tried to get up and do that and I held him back and I went, no, it ain't going to happen, not while I'm here. I held him back. And the people that were holding the door, they were holding it.

And all we heard was the shots one right after the other, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And I know for sure that's when -- because they were so close and they were getting closer by the second. And he reloaded. He kept going, and then we knew that he was shooting the people on the floor, that was laying on the floor.

RIVERA: Where did you and Jimmy separate?

MUNIZ: Right when we dropped down to the floor, my first reaction, like I said, was to grab him.

RIVERA: So you saved Christian.

MUNIZ: Basically, yes.

RIVERA: And Christian, what was your last sight of Jimmy?

CHRIS ORTIZ, FRIEND OF VICTIM: (INAUDIBLE) Jimmy was -- he was standing next to me. And when the fire -- the shots fired, we went down to the floor, all three. And then it was -- the bullet was right and going and going and going.

So when we went back to the floor, that was the last time that I saw him alive. (INAUDIBLE) the bullets were going crazy (INAUDIBLE) inside of us.  There was a lot of blood. I could see the blood of the dead people.

And then he started shooting and shooting and getting closer and closer and closer. The last time that I saw Jimmy was when we dropped to the floor.  We went to the floor. And that really was too dark. You can only hear the boom, booms. (INAUDIBLE) just see the people that was falling dead inside ahead (ph) of me.

And when I looked back, I saw Jimmy. He was dead! He was on the floor!  (INAUDIBLE) there was too many bullets. It was so fast. It went so fast.  (INAUDIBLE) went so fast! Everything just happened in less than a second.

But Jimmy, Jimmy, I will always, always love you with all my hear! You will be my best friend forever! You will always be my (INAUDIBLE) friend.  You were the person that (INAUDIBLE) would the good and the bad. You never said no (ph) to me, and you helped me out to me where I am right now. And I'm going to miss you forever and ever! Always, I'm going to miss you!  Always! He was the best person that I ever met!

RIVERA: That is everybody here, the sisters from Puerto Rico, the other relatives, the neighbors, everybody, this man was beloved. He was beloved.  He was a classic Hebaro (ph) dancer. That's the Puerto Rican folkloric dance. He was a wonderful, wonderful man by every regard.

Maribel Cordero -- Maribel is a counselor, a grief counselor. At the family's request, we helped her get here to be with Carlos and Christian.  What -- is it important for these folks to remember the -- well, you tell us, what is important?

MARIBEL GOMEZ CORDERO, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: Well, first of all, it's important for them to process all that happened. It will take time, but they can get through it with help. I already talked to them. And they, especially Christian, is very affected. And yes, they need to go through the process.

RIVERA: Do you ever heal from something like this?

CORDERO: Well, actually, it takes time. It doesn't have no time limit.  And I don't think -- well, actually, with the hurt in themselves, it will take time for them to heal. But it's very hard right now to say.

RIVERA: Is it -- is it good to vent your anger at the perpetrator, at the person who did this? I mean, Carlos...

MUNIZ: How could I do that? How could I do that? He's done in front of me. I wish I could. I wish I could.

RIVERA: What would you say to him about taking Jimmy's life and the other 48 lives?

MUNIZ: I will not have any words to say. I would just take care of business right then and there because a lot of innocent people's lives (INAUDIBLE) they not meant for that to happen, did not deserve none of that. Everyone has family, kids, moms, dads and everything. Did he care about it? No.

RIVERA: (INAUDIBLE) This is, like -- you know, it's very hard, Sean, not to be very, very emotional among these very good people. These are very good people. These are very good, solid American citizens with jobs and children, and she wants to get a basketball scholarship to the University of Connecticut. She wants to grow up to be on television. They have dreams. They have aspirations.

They were wiped out in the 49 cases, including Jimmy De Jesus Velazquez.  But it is -- I'm telling you, I have seldom seen -- this is America's worst mass shooting ever, and it has impacted this community in a way that will be very, very difficult to describe.

All right. Sean, you better take it back, buddy.

HANNITY: All right, Geraldo. I can't believe what I'm seeing and how heart-wrenching and sad. It's unbelievable. Thank you, Geraldo. We'll get back to him in a little bit in the course of the program.

Joining us now, I believe, we have with reaction Florida attorney general Pam Bondi and FOX News contributor and executive director of the National Center for Policy Analysis Lieutenant Colonel Allen West.

Pam, I know you have been spending a lot of time as the attorney general with the victims, with the victims' families. I don't know what you can add to that, the pain and the suffering. But there is an investigation here, and what's so heart-breaking -- we're told that there are 1,000 ongoing ISIS investigations in America.

We see that the FBI was well aware of who this person was. They knew that he celebrated on 9/11. There's a whole list of things that we know about this guy. The FBI -- he wanted to be a martyr, he told the FBI. He said at work he was a member of al Qaeda and Hezbollah. He talked about the Tsarnaev brothers. He talked about this other suicide bomber, the first American suicide bomber in Syria.

Why was he not on that watch list?

PAM BONDI, FLORIDA ATTORNEY GENERAL: Sean, that's the question. And you called it, and it I'm going to call it. He's a terrorist. He's a terrorist, and this is one of the worst attacks of terrorism on our country. I don't care if he's born in America. He is a terrorist. He believes in ISIS. And he's one of the worst -- what you just saw in that shot that Geraldo just showed you was gut-wrenching. That was a snapshot, just a snapshot of what we dealt with all day today.

HANNITY: Can you tell us, Pam...

BONDI: Sean, there was also -- go ahead.

HANNITY: There's talk about a possible accomplice in this case. Do you know of any part of that investigation?

BONDI: Sean, I'm part of this investigation, and I am not going to comment on that, nor should anyone involved in this investigation.

HANNITY: Understood.

BONDI: But Sean, let me tell you what else. There were bodies stacked upon bodies. I saw that family today. That was just a snapshot of all the families. We now know we have all 49 identified. We have seven in grave condition.

Sean, there was blood on the street. There were medical gloves still out there today. That's what we're dealing with, a gut-wrenching terrorist attack on our country!

HANNITY: Yes. Colonel, I know you've been through an awful lot in your life. I know you have seen heartache like we saw in that room with Geraldo and what Pam is describing. What do you think the country's reaction, from a military standpoint -- if this is a war and I believe it is, against radical Islam, even though Hillary and the president are reluctant and resistant in saying it -- what is the best course of action to protect Americans?

ALLEN WEST, FOX CONTRIBUTOR: Well, first and foremost, condolences to the family.

HANNITY: Of course.

WEST: And we have to understand in this war against Islamic jihadism, there are no borders, there are no boundaries. The people that were at that club, they're on the battlefield. We have to understand that and not just look at it as a law enforcement issue.

Domestically, this is what we have to do. We have to stop, you know, putting these constraints and restraints on the FBI and other agencies here in our country, our law enforcement officers, because that is what has happened. When you have an organization like CAIR and they can go in and influence the policy and the training materials of the FBI and the Department of Defense here, that has to change.

Now, when you look at what should happen militarily, they need to pay for this and there need to be a very quick response that brings a level of...


HANNITY: We have people in power that are in full and complete -- it's pathological denial, which angers me because this is preventable if we identify who this enemy is.

Pam Bondi, attorney general, thank you. Colonel West, thank you. I wish we had more time.

And coming up next on this busy news night right here tonight on "Hannity"...


DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe, or our allies until we fully understand how to end these threats.


HANNITY: Donald Trump rightly renewing his call for a temporary ban on Muslims from countries that have ties to terrorism. Former speaker of the House Newt Gingrich -- he's here with reaction.

And also tonight...


HILLARY CLINTON, D-PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: You know, whether you call it radical jihadism, radical Islamism, I think they mean the same thing, I'm happy to say either.


HANNITY: Hillary for the first time using the term radical Islam after months of refusing to do so.

Also, did you know that Hillary took millions of dollars from countries that support sharia law, like Saudi Arabia and others? By the way, they have death penalty for guys and lesbians. Why does she take money from these people?

That and more tonight on "Hannity."


HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." After the Islamist terrorist attack in Orlando, Donald Trump is renewing his call for a temporary ban on Muslims coming to the U.S. from countries with ties to terrorism.


TRUMP: I will suspend immigration from areas of the world where there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies until we fully understand how to end these threats.

It will be lifted, this ban, when and as a nation, we're in a position to properly and perfectly screen these people coming into our country. They are pouring in, and we don't know what we're doing. We cannot continue to allow thousands upon thousands of people to pour into our country, many of whom have the same thought process as this savage killer.


HANNITY: Here with reaction, former speaker of the House, Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich. Mr. Speaker, thank you for being with us.

You said this is an act of war. You said Barack Obama cannot accept reality. I agree with you. But it's not just Barack Obama because Hillary Clinton in the very early years of the Obama administration -- she was part of man-caused disasters, overseas contingency operations, workplace violence, this insane reluctance not to say radical Islamic terrorism.

And really, but for Donald Trump today, she was shamed into finally saying it. What -- why is there this resistance? It's almost pathological at this point.

NEWT GINGRICH, FMR. HOUSE SPEAKER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I think there are a couple of different streams that come together here. One is the Chamberlain-like failure to see reality because it's too scary. I mean, if you really recognize the size of our enemies, their intensity, their willingness to die for their cause, their eagerness to kill us, the level of hate they represent, it's scary. And I think an awful lot of folks like Obama are just frankly frightened to deal with reality.

Second, if you are a genuine left-winger, you assume the real enemy has to be the United States. And so you wander around and give speeches in Cairo and elsewhere and you say, Oh, they can't really be that bad. But they are.

And third, if you have grown up in a world where you're not allow to do make judgments, I mean, who are we to decide that wanting to kill us is wrong? The whole effort of the last 50 years to create situation ethics makes it very difficult.

So let's start with a simple model. Somebody walks in the room and says, I believe in sharia, which is the most radical Islamic law going back to the seventh and eighth century. I believe in ISIS. I would like to destroy the United States.

In my judgment, that person a traitor to the United States and should lose their citizenship. In the judgment of the left, that person is kind of interesting. And they have cool ideas. And there are -- why should we judge them?

HANNITY: All right, let me go to some very specific things here because Hillary Clinton claims she's the big champion of women's rights and LGBT rights and so on and so forth. Well, not only was she finally shamed today into saying "radical Islam," which is only convenient for politics, but she was also for the first time actually mentioned countries by name.

For example, the Clinton foundation took up to $25 million from Saudi Arabia. OK. That's one country. Then they took up to, what, $5 million from a countries like Qattar, $1 million to $5 million. Then they took, you know, $1 million to $5 million from Brunei.

Now, all three of those countries, Mr. Speaker, have the death penalty for people who are gay and lesbian. She's also -- in the case of Saudi Arabia, women cannot drive. Women cannot leave the house without a man's permission, go to school or go to work. You have a morality police. You need four male eyewitnesses to prove rape for a woman.

She's never criticized these countries! She's taken their money, and they seem to have bought her silence. And only now that she's caught does she reverse course, only today. What do you make of that?

GINGRICH: Well, I think what you're seeing is the breakdown of a system which has been around for 40 or 50 years. I mean, for 40 or 50 years, the Saudis were so rich and their Gulf state allies were so rich that they could basically give money to universities, give money to companies, give money to lobbyists, give money to foundations like the Clinton Foundation, and they bought a benign willingness to pretend that they were good people.

I mean, the objective fact is that the Saudi government is in the early stages of an enormous crisis.

HANNITY: But she took money...

GINGRICH: I think that -- go ahead.

HANNITY: She took money from countries that are abusive to the very constituencies or demographics she is seeking to vote for. She actually called Donald Trump shameful and disgusting and that he is not a supporter of the LGBT community. I'm thinking, you taking $25 million from Saudi Arabia and not criticizing them, that's disgusting. That's shameful in my mind.

GINGRICH: Look, I'm not sure disgusting's even an adequate word. I mean, now that we're finally for the very first time beginning to break through to have this conversation as a nation, we have to confront the reality -- it's not just, by the way, the Saudis, Iraq, which we liberated...


GINGRICH: ... provides the death penalty for being homosexual.  Afghanistan, which we liberated and then created a government, provides for the death penalty for homosexuals. And the degree to which our State Department, which she was in charge of for four years, is totally passive in the face of terrible human rights violations is truly breathtaking. And that's one of the things I think that a Trump presidency would very radically change.

HANNITY: She was part of the deal for $150 billion to the number one state sponsor of terror in Iran. We can point out Benghazi and Libya and the disaster there, pulling out of Iraq early, creating the vacuum for ISIS to take over, not challenging Syria, all of which I think impacts where we are today.

all right, stay there. There are four big issues that I think impact this race as a result of these tragedies that took place, this terrorist attack on Saturday. We'll have more with Speaker Gingrich as we continue.

And also coming up...


CLINTON: You know, whether you call it radical jihadism, radical Islamism, I think they mean the same thing. I'm happy to say either.


HANNITY: Hillary reverse course. She changes her mind. She finally is shamed into saying radical Islam after refusing to do so for months.

And later tonight, in the aftermath of the deadly Orlando terrorist attack, well, what do we need to do here to destroy ISIS and protect the American people? Straight ahead.


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." The horrific terrorist attack in Orlando is just the latest example of radical Islamists wreaking habit on the free word. Earlier today, Hillary Clinton said she had no problem, finally, after months of saying she wouldn't use the term radical Islam -- watch this.


CLINTON: I have clearly said that we face terrorist enemies who use Islam to justify slaughtering innocent people. And you know, whether you call it radical jihadism, radical Islamism, I think they mean the same thing. I'm happy to say either.


HANNITY: But is Hillary Clinton being genuine? I doubt it. After all, six months ago, Hillary Clinton was singing a very different tune. Let's watch.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What's the problem with radical Islam?

CLINTON: Well, the problem is that that sounds like we are declaring war against a religion. And that to me is, number one, wrong...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Even though the qualifier radical is there?

CLINTON: No, because, look, you know enough about religion. You've studied it. And there are radicals, people who believe all kinds of things, in every religion in the world. I don't want to do that because, number one, it doesn't do justice to the vast numbers of Muslims in our own country and around the world who are peaceful people...


HANNITY: What a phony! Anyway, back with us, former speaker of the House, FOX News contributor Newt Gingrich. All right, there are four issues I have identified that I think Orlando -- yes?

GINGRICH: Wait, wait. Before you get to that, I just want to point out to the audience, somebody who can say comparatively that there are radicals in every religion at a time when Fort Hood...

HANNITY: San Bernardino.

GINGRICH: ... California...

HANNITY: San Bernardino, yes.

GINGRICH: ... Chattanooga, Boston, and now Orlando were all caused by radicals in one religion. I mean, for her to try to hide behind this goofy left-wing intellectual baloney tells you just how dangerous the Obama- Clinton world view is.

HANNITY: There are four big issues that Donald Trump, I would argue, pretty courageously stepped out on in this campaign -- that is about Syrian refugees, about building a wall. We know that there are reports that Middle Eastern people crossed the border. Homeland security, and I think energy independence is related as well, but let's start with the issue of the refugee population.

Now, here you have James Clapper, director of national intelligence, James Comey, our FBI director, our assistant FBI director, our House Homeland Security chairman, Representative McCaul, and Obama's former envoy to defeat ISIS have all said ISIS will infiltrate the refugee population.

Donald Trump says until we can vet them, a temporary ban. He is attacked.  Hillary Clinton wants to bring in tens if not hundreds of thousands of them. Why are they willing to gamble with the lives of the American people considering ISIS has said this is their strategy and it happened in Belgium and it happened in Paris?

GINGRICH: Well, first of all, the Congress ought to pass an 18-month ban just to set a breathing spell so we can figure out what the heck we are doing.

Second, I think we ought to take this head on. You put it exactly right.  Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are willing to risk American lives.  Somebody said to me today that making America safe again may be as important as making America great again.


GINGRICH: So you have on the one hand Trump, whose bias is American safety, and Hillary and Barack Obama whose bias is appeasing leftwing international groups and terrorist groups. I mean, it is astonishing.

The obvious fact is we have no capacity, zero, to vet people coming out of Syria. The place is a total disaster. We don't have the right intelligence capabilities. We don't have access to the right documents.  We have no idea who these people are. And, remember, again, it's not just foreigners. The biggest recent examples in California, in Texas, and Florida, were Americans. And so we're going to have to adopt policies both for foreigners and Americans if we are going to protect the country.

HANNITY: And very compassionately, I know I've supported this. I know Donald Trump in his interviews with me has said we would create safe zones in countries like Syria. We protect them militarily. We provide food, water, medicine, cots, blankets, baby formula, and anything they needed.  It's not like we are unwilling to help people that are victims of a civil war here. We're a compassionate country.

But when you go to the refugee issue and the immigration and the homeland security issue, and certainly Hillary taking money from the Saudis, $25 million for the Clinton Foundation, death penalty for gays no rights for women, never criticizes them, doesn't this highlight how this is now developing into a choice election? Very different visions for this country.

GINGRICH: Sure. You have on the one hand the Obama-Clinton worldview that the world matters, that when on balance you ought to risk the American economy, you ought to risk the American lives, you ought to risk the American constitution, that we should always be subordinate to some vague international order that they have in the back much their heads.

On the other side you have a legitimate effort by Trump to say, you know, let's protect Americans first. Let's protect American economy first.  Let's protect American jobs first. Huge, huge difference.

HANNITY: Isn't there is a conflict? If you were born and raised under sharia law and you think as a man that you have the right to tell women how to dress, that they can't drive a car. You give them permission if they are going to go to work or school, four male eye eyewitnesses for rape, et cetera. If you live in a country and grow up with that mindset, how can we ever ascertain whether you come here for free come or if you come here to indoctrinate and proselytize? I don't think you can ascertain that ever.  There is no background check.

GINGRICH: We got really good in dealing with the Soviets and then looking at people like Solzhenitsyn, figuring out which side they were on.

HANNITY: It's not easy.

GINGRICH: It's not easy, and frankly we were under great pressure from the American left which pretended that there were no communists and pretended the entire thing was just phony even though we now know as a fact because we have the Soviet KGB archives that in fact the American left lied to us all the time, including the "New York Times" and others, and there were spies and there were people who hated America and wanted to do destroy us.  We're back in the same business. So my only point, Sean, is very simple.  When in doubt, say no. The lesser view is don't even ask a question.

HANNITY: Sharia law is in direct conflict with everything we believe as a constitutional republic. Mr. Speaker, good to see you.

GINGRICH: Good to see you.

HANNITY: Appreciate your times as always.

   Coming up, now in the aftermath of this deadly terrorist attack in Orlando, how can America destroy ISIS and defeat radical Islam.

And then later tonight.

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TRUMP: They have put political correctness above common sense, above your safety, and above all else. I refuse to be politically correct.


HANNITY: Trump calling out President Obama and Hillary Clinton for being too politically correct in the fight against radical Islam. Brigitte Gabriel and Robert Spencer are here with reaction, that and more tonight right here on "Hannity."        





HANNITY: That was the horrific scene early Sunday morning inside the Orlando nightclub when the Islamist opened fire. In the aftermath of this brutal attack, how do we defeat ISIS and radical Islam? Joining us now is Fox News Middle East analyst and foreign policy advisor to Donald Trump, Dr. Walid Phares, former National Security Council staffer Jillian Turner, and former FBI special agent Manny Gomez. You know I'm a big fan of the FBI. Here is what bothers me, though, in this case. And we have 1,000 ongoing ISIS investigations now. I bet they don't have the manpower.  That's part of the problem I'm assuming.


HANNITY: This guy admitted he wanted to be a martyr when they investigated him. We know that he cheered as a high school student about 9/11 and the attacks. We know he said at work he was connected to Al Qaeda and Hezbollah, conflicting sides, but that's another story. We know he talked about the Tsarnaev brothers and the first suicide bomber from America in Syria, that he went to Saudi Arabia, and his father supported the Taliban and the guy worked for the DHS? Seriously?

GOMEZ: Right.

HANNITY: There is something really wrong here.

GOMEZ: Agreed. And unfortunately, Sean, the laws the way they are written now do not let the FBI put people on certain lists. They have rules they have to abide by.

HANNITY: That doesn't fit the rule? Apparently it did for a short period of time.

GOMEZ: It did for a minute, and then other people came back in and they changed the rules and they watered them down.

HANNITY: So you are saying that the Obama administration -- it's interesting you say that because there is a story in early 2009 in "The Hill" about -- the guy's name is Philip Haney, and he said he was told to wipe clean the names of Muslim on government lists by the Obama administration.

GOMEZ: That's right. After 9/11, the FBI, the intelligence agencies were given all kinds of broad powers to stop any and all attacks that were imminent.

HANNITY: Jillian, I don't know any other -- how many other signs do we need?

JILLIAN TURNER, FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL STAFFER: Here's the problem. We cannot as a nation restrict our intelligence community's use of their best counterterrorism tools. I'm talking wiretapping here and metadata collection, and then turn around and blame them for not preventing an attack like yesterday's. We are essentially asking them to protect the American people --

HANNITY: Put that aside, the metadata collection and all that --

TURNER: But you can't put that aside.

HANNITY: He admitted he wanted to be a martyr, said he was connected to do Al Qaeda and Hezbollah, obviously had been radicalized, cheered 9/11. I mean this was --

TURNER: That's not enough in and of itself to take this guy into custody.  And when the FBI was investigating him in 2013 and 2014, because of the restrictions against metadata collection, they were unable to tap into and see what contacts he had with Al-Nusra Front and with ISIS.

HANNITY: Walid Phares, would that help?

DR. WALID PHARES, FOX NEWS MIDDLE EAST ANALYST: Sean, the big picture is not good. We are in the middle of June. And we are dealing with a series of cells of jihadists, a greater pool of Islamists being radicalized. ISIS is in control of two countries and a half. Iran is loose with $150 billion. There is no mathematical equation that between now and February this administration is going to decide to change it, and if it does, can change it.

HANNITY: Unbelievable. When we look at the issues in the campaign, Jillian, the refugee population of Syria, if ISIS tells us they are going to infiltrate that community as the refugee population like they did in Belgium and Paris, why does the president -- and why does a presidential candidate insist on putting people's lives in jeopardy?

TURNER: Sean, on this issue I hear you. I know your point of view, and I have to respectfully disagree with you. My personal feeling about the refugee issue --

HANNITY: Why can't we have a safe zone? Why can't -- why would we risk one American life?

TURNER: Because we do. We already have them. We have refugee camps that have been set up on the outskirts of all the western European cities, and they are failing.

HANNITY: We took in refugees. ISIS has telegraphed they are going to infiltrate that community, and we are going to take them in and we're putting American lives at risk and gambling with your life. Do you want to gamble with your life? Do you want them to live next to you?

TURNER: Of course I don't want to gamble any Americans' lives.

HANNITY: Do you want them to live next to you? We'll move them right in next door to you.

TURNER: But they are not going to be able to do that is the reality.

HANNITY: Oh really? They get here and do whatever they want. Don't you agree?

TURNER: I give more credit to our national and Homeland Security personnel that live and breathe screening.

HANNITY: That ought to tell the whole story.

TURNER: I believe that we can do both.

GOMEZ: The problem here is that the government itself is saying that they cannot process that many people in the safe way.

HANNITY: You can't. It's impossible.

TURNER: It's 10,000 additional people.

GOMEZ: You cannot -- we cannot actively process --

HANNITY: You cannot determine what is in a person's heart and that's what you are trying to figure out there.

GOMEZ: Absolutely.

HANNITY: Coming up next, thank you all, on "Hannity" tonight.


TRUMP: They have put political correctness above common sense, above your safety, and above all else. I refuse to be politically correct.


   HANNITY: Donald Trump slamming both Obama and Hillary for putting political correctness above the safety of you, the American people. That's next.         



TRUMP: We need to respond to this attack in America as one united people with force, purpose, and determination. But the current politically correct response cripples our ability to talk and to think and act clearly.         

The Obama administration with the support of Hillary Clinton and others has also damaged our security by restraining our intelligence. They have put political correctness above common sense, above your safety, and above all else. I refuse to be politically correct.         

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HANNITY: 2016 presumptive GOP Donald Trump earlier today warning about the dangers of political correctness following the terrorist attack in Orlando, Florida.         

Joining us now with reaction is the president of Act for America Brigitte Gabriel, and the director of Jihad Watch Robert Spencer. Thank you for being with us. Hillary Clinton takes money from Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Brunei, Brigitte. They have the death penalty in some instances for gay people. She claims to be a champion of gay rights. They treat women horribly. They can't drive, they're told how to dress, et cetera, all the things we've talked about. How does she get away with that, taking millions of dollars, not criticizing those countries until today, and taking their money and never on record criticizing them?

BRIGITTE GABRIEL, PRESIDENT, ACT FOR AMERICA: Well, she cannot criticize them because she needs more of their money. Remember, she needs their support. So she has a vested interest in not criticizing them because then they'll be upset with her. So she is putting her interest and the interest of her foundation and her family before the national interest of the United States, and that is criminal.

HANNITY: And Robert, she's putting her political interest, her foundation interest certainly above the rights of women and the mistreatment of the mistreatment of gays and lesbians.

ROBERT SPENCER, DIRECTOR, JIHAD WATCH: There's no doubt about that whatsoever, yes. She's been completely self-serving throughout her political career. But when it comes to any kind of feminist concern for the mistreatment of women in Islamic law or in Islamic countries under sharia, she has never shown the slightest interest and never said a word about it.  

HANNITY: Brigitte, there is a conflict of civilizations here.  We're at a crossroads. Sharia law is the antithesis of our democratic republic, our constitutional republic. So if somebody comes from a country and they grow up under sharia, how can you ever ascertain whether or not they really want the freedoms we have or they want to indoctrinate and bring their religion and their theocracy with them?

GABRIEL: We just have to look at their actions. Sean, you've heard me say this before. Actions speak louder than words. There are those who come to our country and they do assimilate and you can tell --

HANNITY: How do you tell the difference? How do you tell?

GABRIEL: Those that are devout, obviously their actions show where they stand. Look at this guy in Florida, Omar. His co-workers complained he is radical. His co-workers turned him to the FBI in 2013 because he was trying to recruit them into ISIS.

HANNITY: Robert, same question.

SPENCER: The thing is that these mosques are not being monitored and they need to be. They're teaching this kind of hatred and violence, and political correctness and this willful ignorance, the denial that Hillary Clinton represents is only aiding and abetting it. The Islamic Center of Fort Pierce the shooter from Orlando went to, a few years ago they had the jihadi suicide bomber join the Islamic State and blew himself up in Syria.  And he went to the same mosque. Why was that mosque not investigated and shut down at that point? Then the people in the Orlando club might be alive today.

HANNITY: That's pretty deep and profound, and this guy apparently knew that guy, right?

SPENCER: Absolutely, yes.        

HANNITY: All right.        

GABRIEL: And by the way, Sean, there has been three different studies how the radical Muslims in America are radicalized in the mosques.  Seven out of 10 mosques in America are radicalized.

HANNITY: The father came from Afghanistan, he supported the Taliban, and 99 percent of those people coming from there support sharia. But thank you both for being with us. Coming up, we're going to have more HANNITY right after this quick break. Stay with us.  


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." Quick programming note before we go tonight. Be sure to tune in tomorrow night, 10:00 p.m. eastern. Donald Trump will be here to talk about the Orlando terror attacks and much more, a lot of important questions. That's tomorrow night, 10:00 eastern, right here on HANNITY.

As always, thank you for being with us. Our thoughts and prayers are with the people in Orlando. We'll see you back here tomorrow night.     

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