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Trump supporters Sheriff Joe Arpaio and the former governor of Arizona discuss the candidate's immigration policies on 'Hannity'


This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," May 6, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.


DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE:  We're going to have a strong border.  Yes, we're going to have the wall.  And who's going to pay for the wall?

AUDIENCE:  Mexico!

TRUMP:  We want people to come into our country, but they have to come in legally, folks.  Otherwise, we don't have a country.  We don't have a country.  Get your money ready because you're going to pay for the wall.

We're going to bring jobs back from China, from Japan, from all these countries.

Politicians don't know how to stop it.  I will stop it quickly and easily.

Syrian refugees are now being resettled in Rhode Island.


TRUMP:  We don't know where they're from.  They have no documentation.  We all have hearts and we can build safe zones in Syria and we'll get the Gulf states to put up the money.  We're not putting up the money.

We're going build our military bigger, better, stronger than ever before. Ever before.


TRUMP:  ISIS will be gone if I'm elected president.  I would bomb the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) out of them!  I'd blow up the pipes.  I'd blow up the -- I'd blow up every single inch.  There would be nothing left!

We have to rebuild America!  We have to rebuild the United States!  Our infrastructure is going to hell!

Our vets have been forgotten.  They have been forgotten.

Our vets have been treated like third-class citizens.  Our vets will be treated properly with Donald Trump.

We have a disaster called the big lie, ObamaCare.

Your premiums are going up 25 percent, 35 percent, 45, 55 percent.  We're going to repeal it.  We're replace it with something great.

People say Trump has a very tough tone.  He has a very tough temperament. We need a tough temperament now, folks.



SEAN HANNITY, HOST:  And welcome to this special edition of "Hannity."  So with senator Ted Cruz and Governor John Kasich dropping out of the race, Donald Trump is now the presumptive Republican nominee.

Tonight, for the hour, we will be examining Trump's positions on numerous issues, including his stance on immigration, ISIS, health care, the economy, and much more.  So how effective can a Trump presidency be?  And who will Trump lean on for advice?

Now, we got a lot to cover tonight, so let's get started.  We welcome the author of The New York times best-seller "Duplicity," former Speaker of the House, Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich.

You know, I saw something on Twitter.   I love social media.  I know you do.  You've been well ahead of the curve on social media.  And it just has-- it kind of -- it's been circulating.  It goes, for example, he's going to build the wall, have legal immigration, end sanctuary cities, immediately deport criminal illegal aliens, create safe zones in Syria, take care of vets, support police, end Common Core, fix failing schools, negotiate better trade deals, bring back good American jobs, energy independence, balance the budget, fix a broken political system, rebuild infrastructure, restore America's military, reduce taxes on lower and middle class Americans, protect the 2nd Amendment, repeal and replace ObamaCare.  Women's health issues, he's pro-life.

That kind of sums up the guy I interviewed all these times over these many months.  Last night, we were talking about this.  And I agree with your analysis.  He's not a traditional conservative.  Is there any one of those positions that's not conservative, though?

NEWT GINGRICH, R-FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER:  Well, again, I think you can argue about, for example, building the wall, whether that's conservative or not.  It's certainly popular.

But I would make a deeper point that the news media totally misses.  You just gave a list of the most substantive candidate I can remember who has taken item after item after item -- I mean, when people say he doesn't stand for any issues, I wonder, you know, what planet they're on.

This is a guy who's gone out and has told us about a tremendous range of issues, the direction he would go in.  And I think that in that sense, he's been a very substance-oriented candidate.  Some of the substance terrifies Washington.  But frankly, that's good.  Washington needs to be terrified a little bit.

HANNITY:  Why is it -- why is Washington so terrified?  Can you psychoanalyze that?

GINGRICH:  Well, sure.  He represents the end of their world.  Look, Washington today is this bureaucratic lobbyist system that is trying to impose left-wing values on the country.  Look what EPA is trying to do to the Navajo nation, for example, in terms of their large electro-generating capabilities.  Look what Obama has done to the entire coal industry.  Look at what you see happening again and again with court decisions that favor radical values.

So you have this huge industry in Washington of people who try to dictate to the rest of us how we should think, how we should act, what we should do.  And they're faced with a candidate who represents the will of the American people, who's prepared to have, you know -- you can think of "take back Washington" as the subset of "make America great again."  And I think that if you're Washington, that kind of scares you.

HANNITY:  So there really -- what's happened is -- and it's really true because Republicans have allowed the entire Obama agenda to pass.  They -- they never had the courage that you had as speaker to let the government shut down.  If I recall, you did it twice.  And they wanted it because they wanted to maintain power.  They were afraid that they were going to get blamed, so they were timid.  And pretty much everything Obama wanted, Obama got with very little opposition.

So there really isn't too much of a difference, is there, between the Republicans in D.C. and Democrats in D.C.  And isn't that what the voters have been saying?

GINGRICH:  Now, look, there's a huge difference between individual Republicans.  I mean, if you looked at the House Republicans and the Senate Republicans, they're dramatically more conservative, but they have not been effective in taking on Obama and taking on the elite news media.

What makes Trump so fascinating is he's reached right past the elite media and he's communicated with the American people, and he's beginning to create a Trump movement and a sort of Trumpism as a philosophy.  And if this thing begins to cohere this summer, and by the time we get to Cleveland, you can begin to really sense, here's how we're going to deal with the country for the next eight years, this could become a historic turning point because it would mean, as you pointed out in several of your interviews, he's prepared basically to dismantle the Washington education bureaucracy and send it back to the states.


GINGRICH:  My guess is he would dismantle the Washington Medicaid bureaucracy and send it back to the states.  This is a guy who I think will be very directly engaged in reshaping the federal government in ways that will make Washington very uncomfortable.

HANNITY:  You know, last question.  And I asked you this before.  Because the distrust level is so high right now, I always thought -- and I watched up close and personal when you ran on a contract, you put your word, your promises, on a solemn vow, what you're going to do -- I like that idea again.

I think to build up trust, to be held accountable, for promises, it could help run a national party.  You'd have senators and congressmen run on the same platform.  I think many of the issues everyone would agree on.  These are 80/20 issues, many of them.  Good idea, bad idea?

GINGRICH:  I think they ought to have a fairly broad platform in the summer, and then I think they should pick maybe 10 big things, and those 10 big things -- and that's got to be negotiated.  It can't be dictated by Trump.  He's got to actually have the Senate and the House candidates with him talking it through.

But they could pick 10 of them and really create a vivid example and then say, Look, you elect us, and by Easter of 2017, this is what we're going to get done.

HANNITY:  Well, all right.  Mr. Speaker, thanks so much for being with us. Appreciate it.

GINGRICH:  Good to be with you.

HANNITY:  Joining us now with more is the editor of Lifezette, Fox News contributor, nationally syndicated radio host Laura Ingraham.  How are you?


HANNITY:  Whenever I hear Newt Gingrich speak, it's kind of -- you always get this sense of hope and optimism.  And then I just realized how the institution in Washington, the bureaucracy in Washington, especially among Republicans, is so deeply flawed and how weak they have truly been and how visionless they really are.  It's kind of a great comparison.


HANNITY:  Am I wrong or...

INGRAHAM:  No, you're totally right, Sean.  And look, last year, friends of mine and I were sitting around and watching the cranes in Washington, the growth of Washington, the building in Washington.  It just keeps expanding out the city.

I actually came to Washington to work for President Reagan in 1987, and right out of college, and you know, Washington then was -- there was traffic and it was a busy city, but it's grown into this just mega, you know, city of lobbyists and lawyers and everybody who feeds off the -- excuse the phraseology, but the teat of Washington, D.C., and the growth of government.

So Newt is absolutely right.  The threat of someone who would come in and change that and really upend it, if that's what Trump does, which he says he'll do, that shakes their world order.  And people like, you know, Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell -- they're used to things being a certain way.

And Trump's got to be very careful that he doesn't allow the establishment now in Washington -- after he clear-cut that entire field and grew his support among the electorate, he can't bow down and give away all the momentum and the credibility he has on the key issues that he ran on, the immigration issue and the trade issue.

And that's what I'm concerned about when I hear these statements from Ryan and McConnell that Trump's got to unify the party.  I say Trump has unified the party.  He's up over 50 percent.  He clear-cut the whole field. Bushism is over.  There's no appetite for it.

So I think right now, they're on the wrong side of some key issues and they've got to come closer to him on a few key issues.

HANNITY:  But as we talked about last night, this is like openly sabotaging the guy, which I don't think they would do to anybody else.  And so he now has some problems inasmuch as -- I actually can see in my mind's eye some of these people actually actively helping Hillary.  That's how much -- that's how angry they are at the voters that they didn't pick an establishment candidate.

INGRAHAM:  Well, I think so, Sean.  And remember, they have no problem working with Obama on issues like trade promotion authority.  They've had no problem passing Obama's budget funding Planned Parenthood.

And I think if they feel in the end that they can cut better deals on globalization and trade, the Trans-Pacific Partnership, immigration amnesty, with Hillary than they can with Trump, then they might as well cut deals with Hillary.

I mean, it's like the last year hasn't even happened for them, like none of this is settling in, that populism and a conservatism imbued with more of an economic nationalism -- that is the only future for the Republican Party.  They can be spoilers, I guess, or they can be irrelevant like John Anderson in 1980.  But I think they ought to be really thoughtful about what they to because I think -- I think the people are going to have a very long memory if the sabotage game is really what's going on here.

HANNITY:  I think so.  But you know, I also don't think it's a time for half measures.  I think the problems are so deep.


HANNITY:  It's really in the foundation of everything there, and Trump represents to them, I guess, the equivalent of a political earthquake and that will rock their world and change it, hopefully, forever.

INGRAHAM:  Maybe the country would be changed for the better, though.  I mean, when policies don't work, you don't keep doing the same policies. You actually do something different.

HANNITY:  It's called the definition...

INGRAHAM:  And if that doesn't work out, you change that.  I mean, it's crazy!

HANNITY:  Definition of insanity...


HANNITY:  ... doing the same thing over, thinking you can get a different result.  Laura, thank you again for being with us.


HANNITY:  Appreciate it.

And coming up next tonight right here on this special edition of "Hannity"...


TRUMP:  We're going to have a strong border.  Yes, we're going to have the wall.  And who's going to pay for the wall?

AUDIENCE:  Mexico!

TRUMP:  100 percent, by the way.  100 percent.


HANNITY:  Donald Trump vowing he will build a border wall if elected and get rid of sanctuary cities.  How will he do it?  We'll check in with former Arizona governor Jan Brewer and Sheriff Joe Arpaio are here. They'll weigh in on that and much more as this special edition of "Hannity: Road to the White House, Trump on the Issues" continues.



HANNITY:  And welcome back to this special edition of "Hannity: Road to the White House, Trump on the Issues."  Now, the day he announced he was running for president, Donald Trump brought up the issue of immigration and said it would be a top priority.  Now, listen to what Trump said he would do if elected.


TRUMP:  Believe me, folks, we're building the wall.  Believe me.


TRUMP:  Believe me.  We're building the wall.  We're building the wall. No, we're building the wall.  We have no choice!  Do we have a choice?  We have to.

We're going to create a path where we can get them into this country legally, OK?  But it has to be done legally.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:  Are you willing to...

TRUMP:  Otherwise, we don't have a country.  They're going to be -- and they're going to come back and they're going to come back legally.

We're going to end sanctuary cities really fast, I can tell you that, sanctuary cities.


TRUMP:  You ever see anything -- it's almost like a free zone.  You kill people and you're fine because you're in a sanctuary -- it is so insane, what's happening to our country.


HANNITY:  Joining us with reaction, former Arizona governor Jan Brewer and Maricopa County sheriff, Mr. Pink Underwear himself, Joe Arpaio, our favorite sheriff.  Welcome, both of you.

You know, if you look at all the exit polls from all the different primary states, including Arizona, it's jobs, the economy and security.  All of them are tied to immigration.

And Governor, I'll start with you.  What is the impact on jobs for Americans, the health care costs, the educational costs, the criminal justice costs of the illegal immigrants?  How big is it?

JAN BREWER, R-ARIZ., FORMER GOVERNOR:  Well, it's extraordinary.  It costs us probably, you know, a billion dollars or more a year to educate these people that are coming across with their children.  Certainly, they're taking jobs out of the economy, and then their health care under our Medicaid program -- we call it access here -- and the incarceration.  It's extraordinary.  And we certainly can't afford it and it's not our job.  And the point of the matter, truly, Sean, is that our borders need to be secured, and we believe in the rule of law.

HANNITY:  Yes.  And Sheriff, you have an up close and personal view of this.  How many -- or what percentage of the people over the years has your jail been holding that are illegal immigrants?

JOE ARPAIO, MARICOPA COUNTY SHERIFF:  Well, you know, just recently, we did a survey.  I think I talked about it before.  Thanks for asking the question.  We've had 5,500 in our jail system we turned over to ICE.  And guess what, 3,000 have come back.  That's a big story that nobody will talk about.

HANNITY:  When you say 3,000 come back, meaning they didn't -- they got out of jail, you told ICE that they had committed crimes in the U.S., they were here illegally, and they just let them back in the United States.  They didn't send them back.

ARPAIO:  No, came back to the same jails that I run.

HANNITY:  Yes.  That's what I'm saying.


ARPAIO:  ... 24 at a time.

HANNITY:  Yes, they keep coming back but they were let out, and ICE never picked them up and sent them back.  Isn't that the law?

ARPAIO:  No, they were turned over to ICE to be deported.  Yes, and they keep coming back.

HANNITY:  That's my point.

ARPAIO:  I don't think they're crossing the border.  They're let out the back door to roam the streets.


ARPAIO:  So when you talk about deportation -- these are people that should be deported for serious crimes.  So that's one problem domestically.  But you have to crack down at the border of Mexico.

You know, I was a director in Mexico City for many years, and you have to do it over there, get to the source, get that wall up and I -- you know, I was with Donald right from the beginning when he mentioned the wall and immigration.  Nobody wanted to talk about it, Sean.  You know that.  Now everybody's talking about it.  It's a no-brainer to put that wall up.

HANNITY:  Yes.  And by the way, Republicans, if they wanted the wall up, they would have put it up.

Let me ask a political question, Governor, and that is John McCain was whining earlier this week that, oh, his reelection campaigns are going to be reduced because Donald Trump's the nominee.

I don't think that's the case.  Isn't it because the people of Arizona feel that he's been part of the problem over these years?  Which scenario is more realistic?

BREWER:  Well, you know, John McCain has served us well, I believe, for the many years that he's been in office.  But there's a lot of concern out there.  I think he will win reelection.  He still has a lot of support. The people that oppose him are very vocal.

But you know, Sean, I will tell you there's nobody better that you would want in your foxhole if you have a problem.  I think that John is truly an American hero.  And you know, security is so, so important that we have to be very concerned that if John doesn't return to the Senate -- he's got seniority, so I think people should think a little bit cautiously about moving in a different direction.

HANNITY:  Let me go back to the border, Sheriff, and ask you this question. Tell people what you have seen.  In other words, drugs -- I've been to a drug warehouse, you know, floor to ceiling drugs, the biggest room I've ever been in.  The stench was horrible.  Drugs, human trafficking -- explain all of this to me.

BREWER:  Well, I'm glad you brought that up because every politician that goes to the border, all they talk about is illegal immigration for their photo op when they're running for office.

Nobody talks about the drugs coming into our country.  They're destroying our country -- Heroin.  I have to once again commend Donald.  He brought this out.  We need the wall to stop the drugs from coming into our country, destroying our young people, and not just the illegal immigration problem. And we have to talk about the terrorism threat, too.  So it's very important to do something at that Mexican-U.S. border.

HANNITY:  I agree.  It think it impacts jobs.  It impacts the economy.  It impacts our security.  And the trillions of dollars over the years we spend on the health care system, criminal justice system, educational system, has been enormous and a burden on American taxpayers.

Thank you both for speaking out.  We appreciate it.

And coming up next tonight on this special edition of "Hannity"...


TRUMP:  They're going to be gone.  ISIS will be gone if I'm elected president.  And they'll be gone quickly.  They will be gone very, very quickly.


HANNITY:  Donald Trump taking a strong approach when it comes to dealing with ISIS.  Now, we're going to speak with Dr. Walid Phares.  He's one of Trump's foreign policy advisers.  That and more as this special edition of "Hannity: Road to the White House, Trump on the Issues" continues.



TRUMP:  We're going to build up our military bigger, better, stronger than ever before.  It's the cheapest thing we can do.  And we're going to have to take out ISIS and we're going to have to take them out fast.

I would bomb the (EXPLETIVE DELETED) out of them!


TRUMP:  I'd blow up the pipes.  I'd blow up the -- I'd blow up every single inch.  There would be nothing left!  And you know what?  You'll get Exxon to come in there, and in two months -- you ever see these guys, how good they are, the great oil companies?  They'll rebuild that sucker brand-new. It'll be beautiful.

And I'd ring (ph) it and I'd take the oil.  And I said I'll take the oil.

We must, as a nation, be more unpredictable.  We are totally predictable. We tell everything.  We're sending troops, we tell them.  We're sending something else, we have a news conference.  We have to be unpredictable, and we have to be unpredictable starting now.

But they're going to be gone.  ISIS will be gone if I'm elected president. And they'll be gone quickly.  They will be gone very, very quickly.


HANNITY:  And welcome back to this special edition of "Hannity."  That was Donald Trump explaining how he will deal with ISIS if, in fact, he's elected to be the next commander-in-chief.

Here with reaction, one of Donald Trump's foreign policy advisers.  Fox News Middle East analyst Dr. Walid Phares is with us.  The author of, by the way, great new book, "In the Arena," Fox News contributor Peter Hegseth is here, and Fox News national security analyst K.T. McFarland.  Good to see you.

Congrats on the book, by the way.


HANNITY:  Walid, you talked about Donald Trump.  You advised Donald Trump. I like "bomb the living" out of them.  I think that's pretty good.  I think that's a start.  I think we've been timid with ISIS.  How do you -- he said he wouldn't telegraph everything.  Bring us some insight into his thinking.

WALID PHARES, FOX MIDDLE EAST AND TERRORISM ANALYST:  Well, absolutely. What we've heard so far is the narrative of the primaries, which has ended, and then you're going to hear more details and more expansion during the debates this summer.  But more important, Sean, is basically, what we actually -- he is going to be doing when he is going to be elected president -- elected president.

So number one, as he mentioned, there is no containment with regard to ISIS.  This is a dismemberment of ISIS.  Actually, the eradication of ISIS. But that means that we're going to have to have a force on the ground.  I mean, there will be continuous, relentless shelling of ISIS positions...

HANNITY:  You think he'll send American troops into Iraq and Syria?

PHARES:  There are all tools, Sean.  Now, he will choose.  If he can through a coalition of local allies inside Iraq and Syria -- more importantly in the region -- and he has mentioned this even in his foreign policy speech last week, he will reach out...

HANNITY:  He said he wouldn't do that.  He said he would let other countries do that.  He said they should be shedding their blood.  They should be contributing their money.

PHARES:  That's exactly what I'm trying to say.  He will talk to these Arab countries who have armies that are modern that we have trained that have been very frustrated with the Obama/Clinton administration's policies -- he will talk to them...

HANNITY:  All right, let me bring in K.T.  K.T., I heard a guy that said, You know what?  We can't change countries that don't want to be democracies, and we've done more harm than good in some instances, and we always end up politicizing  the war, anyway, and giving up our gains.  How many more times are we going to do that?

K.T. MCFARLAND, FOX NATIONAL SECURITY ANALYST:  Yes, I mean, I think he's been pretty clear that he doesn't want to have a Bush kind of war in the Middle East, and he also doesn't want to have Obama's leading from behind.

What I think is intriguing is that he's -- similar to Reagan in the sense that he's rethinking what should our strategy be.  And in fact, Trump has said to defeat ISIS, we need a comprehensive strategy, like we had to defeat the Nazis during World War II and Reagan used to defeat the communists during the cold war.

It has an economic component, an ideological component, a covert action component.  Yes, it has a military component, but it's one of a number of issues and a number of ways we fight this enemy.

HANNITY:  And one similarity, Pete, is building up our military strength that everybody knows we are a force to reckon with.

HEGSETH:  No, that's right.  I mean, no one's going to doubt Trump's gut. We know he wants to defeat, crush ISIS.  That's there, and that matters for troops on the ground who look at their commander-in-chief right now and they wonder where his compass really is.

But there is an inconsistency in the actual application.  Is it going to be troops?  Is it not going to be troops?  How do you seize the oil fields without troops?  I mean, there are -- the devil is oftentimes still in the details in the application.


HEGSETH:  You can't lead without American boots on the ground...


HANNITY:  Here's my theory.

HEGSETH:  ... part of the equation.

HANNITY:  And we have got to advance warfare to the point where it's not like Baghdad, where we're sending kids in without even up-armored Humvees, knocking door to door to try and win a war.  I think we have got to accept that if we're going to wage war against a modern-day evil, there's going to be far more collateral damage than people are willing to accept.

That means the media, CNN, they'll go in there with their pictures, Oh, they killed women and children.  Well, that's going to happen in war, and we don't seem to have the appetite to do that.

MCFARLAND:  Yes.  One of the things I think is interesting about what Trump has said...

HANNITY:  By the wary, I'm not hoping for that.


HANNITY:  ... as a natural course, yes.

MCFARLAND:  You know, if they're going to kill each other and you have two enemies killing each other, you kind of wonder why should you step in and try to stop them?  Let them exhaust themselves.

But when Trump says we're going to build the strongest, toughest military and it's cheaper, that is a really sophisticated concept.  Why?  Because he says have the strongest, toughest military, nobody picks a fight with you.

HANNITY:  That's right.

MCFARLAND:  As long as you don't start the fight...


MCFARLAND:  That's was Reagan's peace through strength.

HEGSETH:  They're going to keep picking a fight with us, no matter what. They've got a caliphate with a black flag flying over it.

MCFARLAND:  Not if they're bankrupt!

HEGSETH:  They've got Raqqa.  They've got Mosul.  And they're staying there.  And will we be willing to bomb their capital and bomb it the way it needs to happen?  We know where their headquarters are.  We just won't do it.


HANNITY:  Obama wouldn't do it because he didn't want any environmental damage.

HEGSETH:  I think Trump would be willing to.

HANNITY:  Of course he would.

HEGSETH:  And the American people would rally to defeating the caliphate.

HANNITY:  Walid, I think that's a good point.  Obama wouldn't do it.  He did little pinpricks.  There was no overwhelming use of force, and then there was concern about, well, there might be environmental damage if we bomb the oil wells and take their money away.  

PHARES:  That was another concern, Sean.  The reality is the Obama administration could have destroyed ISIS if it wanted.  We have the best military in the world.  It's Iran that didn't want this to happen because they wanted to seize those areas.  This is where a Trump administration is going to have a different strategy.  We and our allies will destroy ISIS. Details will come later, but we're going to make sure the Iranians and other jihadi group is not going to come after us.  It's always the day after we need to think about.  

HANNITY:  All right, guys, thank you all for being with us.  Good to see you, Pete.  Congrats on the book.  

And coming up next tonight here on "Hannity" --


TRUMP:  You have millions of people out there that can't get jobs.  We're going to bring our jobs back to our country, and we're not going to let people leave so easily anymore.  



HANNITY:  Donald Trump is a very successful businessman and he promises if elected that he'll bring back jobs from Mexico, he'll fix the economy. Coming up next, Charles Gasparino, Nicole Petallides, Gerri Willis will weigh in on Trump's plans as this special edition of "Hannity" continues.  


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HANNITY:  Welcome back to the special edition of "Hannity, Road to the White House, Donald Trump on the Issues." Now, if Trump does become president, he's going to have to do a lot of work to fix America's broken economy of course caused by years of Obama's failed policies.  Here's where Trump stands on this very important issue.  Let's take a look.  


TRUMP:  We're going to bring back our jobs and we're going to keep our jobs.  We're not going to let companies leave.  Now, if they want to go to a different state, good luck.  Compete.  But when they start going to different countries that in many cases are countries that devalue their currency and make it impossible for our companies to compete, that's not going to happen.  

You have millions of people out there that can't get jobs.  We're going to bring our jobs back to our country.  And we're not going to let people leave so easily anymore.  

We're bringing our jobs back to this country, and companies that want to leave, they're going to have to pay the consequences.  I mean, if they want to leave for Mexico and going to make product and sell it, they're going to have to pay the consequences, which in this case is going to be taxes. They're going to have to pay a tax if they want to come back into the country.  

With me, they're paying a 35 percent tax as soon as they leave, folks.  And they're never going to leave.  



HANNITY:  Joining us from the Fox Business Network, Charles Gasparino, Nicole Petallides and Gerri Willis.  By the way, I got a chance to read and endorse a brand new book "Rich is not a Four-Letter Word" out now in bookstores and Amazon.com.  It really isn't.  

I look at this economic plan.  I like the idea we become energy independent, we create millions of jobs, it's good for our national security.  You let all of these multinational corporations that have trillions or billions of dollars, I think trillions, about $2 trillion or $3 trillion, overseas, bring it back at a low tax rate, build manufacturing centers and factories. Good idea?  

GERRI WILLIS, "RICH IS NOT A FOUR-LETTER WORD" AUTHOR:  He wants a 15 percent corporate tax rate.  

HANNITY:  Right, lower tax rate.  

WILLIS:  In order to bring it way, way down, he wants to bring down individual tax rates.  The top tax rate would be 25 percent.  This would turn a lot of money over to the private sector, a lot of money over to individuals.  This would cause the economy to grow and grow dramatically, one percent a year.  Over ten years -- you say Gerri, that's not much, but over ten years that's 10 percent growth.  

HANNITY:  And Nicole, Obama is the last quarter, 0.5 percent.  He's the only president in eight years that will never reach three percent growth in a year.  

NICOLE PETALLIDES, FOX BUSINESS NETWORK:  I can tell that I talk to all the Wall Street traders all the time.  As a matter of fact today I talked to several of them just about this segment alone asking about Trump's policies and what do they think.  And you know what, they embrace it.  They want a political maverick.  They want someone to make some changes.  

They're willing to take obviously some challenges and some obviously risk with this, but they mike what they're seeing.  They like what Gerri just noted, 15 percent from 40 percent.  They like getting rid of the inversions, bringing back $2.5 trillion back to the States.  

HANNITY:  That's a lot of money.  

PETALLIDES:  We don't want to be Japan.  

HANNITY:  There's a critic in the corner, Gasparino.  

CHARLES GASPARINO, FOX BUSINESS NETWORK:  I'm the voice of reason.  Let's be clear, there's a difference between the few traders that are left on the floor of the stock exchange and most major investors.

PETALLIDES:  He likes to note that.  

GASPARINO:  No, no.  

PETALLIDES:  Go ahead.  

GASPARINO:  Most major investors are scared to death of Donald Trump. They're scared to death --

PETALLIDES:  OK, about John -- go ahead.  

GASPARINO:  How about Paul Singer.  How much money could John --

PETALLIDES:  All right, here's the point.  Monetary policy versus --

GASPARINO:  No, no.  Listen, a trade war.  One of the basics that has allowed our economy to grow in good times, forget the Obama administration. You're comparing him to the largest midget in the room when it's President Obama's economy, has been free trade.  Donald Trump wants to start a trade war with China.  

HANNITY:  That's not what he said at all.  

GASPARINO:  I'm sure he does.  He wants 45 percent -- 45 percent tariffs.

HANNITY:  I'm listening to you and you guys are talking about rich Wall Street guys.  Here's the problem.  

GASPARINO:  Right.  

HANNITY:  And 20 percent of American families don't have a single person employed.  

GASPARINO:  How many jobs --

HANNITY:  I'm not done.  And 95 million Americans out of the labor force, 50 million in poverty.  


GASPARINO:  Use your head, Sean.  Use your head.  

WILLIS:  Americans are still suffering.  This continues.  Median incomes are down.  

GASPARINO:  Who doesn't know that?  


WILLIS:  -- any policies to change this?  I don't think so.  Donald Trump does.  

GASPARINO:  Are you telling me repealing --

WILLIS:  I'm not going to answer your questions.  This is an important fact.  

GASPARINO:  Are you saying repealing NAFTA is going to bring factories back to upstate New York?

HANNITY:  Fracking would bring jobs to upstate New York.  

GASPARINO:  I agree with that.

HANNITY:  That's part of his policy to allow it.  

GASPARINO:  By repealing NAFTA, we'd be getting into a trade war --

HANNITY:  That's not what he said.  If you listen closely --

GASPARINO:  Listen closely, 45 tariff?  

HANNITY:  Can I finish?  


HANNITY:  If you listen closely -- what he's saying, he's never given a percent that I heard.  

GASPARINO:  Yes, he has.  

HANNITY:  But what he has said is that he is going to negotiate better trade deals.  There's a huge trade imbalance -- wait a minute.  You try and sell an American car in China, good luck to you.  

GASPARINO:  We are selling cars in China.

HANNITY:  No, we're not.  We're getting rammed --  

GASPARINO:  Dealer sells 95 percent of their products overseas, not here. Engage in an overseas trade war.

HANNITY:  They're engaged in one with us.  We're just not fighting back.  

PETALLIDES:  I agree with Charlie.  I've talked to a lot of people, they are nervous about that.  But when you talk at home, when you're talking about Americans and concerns about lower income Americans, a single person who makes less than $25,000, a married couple who makes --

HANNITY:  How about the people out of work that make nothing?  

PETALLIDES:  They're not going to have to pay anything.  He simplifies the tax brackets from --

HANNITY:  Wait a minute.  

PETALLIDES:  He's making it simpler.  

HANNITY:  The unbalance in the trade has resulted in less manufacturing, less factories in America, Americans out of work.  


HANNITY:  And then the Americans that are out of work now have to compete with illegal immigrants that drive down wages and take opportunities.  

WILLIS:  That's why Trump has been so popular and why he's gotten so much currency and why people are listening to him.  

HANNITY:  That's why he's won.  

GASPARINO:  Sean, here's your economic theory.  Build a wall, only sell to ourselves.  It ain't happening.  

HANNITY:  Why do you make this stuff up?  You're out of your mind.  That is not what I said.  That's not what he says.  

GASPARINO:  Its' 45 percent tariffs.  

HANNITY:  Oh, my gosh.  

WILLIS:  I think he's going to end up working with other countries.

GASPARINO:  He didn't say that.

PETALLIDES:  What he's saying is --

HANNITY:  He said he would negotiate better trade deals.  

GASPARINO:  Right.  

HANNITY:  Because there's such an imbalance.  That imbalance has resulted in Americans losing jobs.  

GASPARINO:  If they manipulate the currency, like we manipulate, because we manipulate the currency --

HANNITY:  They do it more than us.  

GASPARINO:  It's called quantitative easing.  

HANNITY:  That's really horrible.  I can't stand quantitative easing.  

WILLIS:  He's done little thing, incentives to keep these companies here, at home.  How about impoverished cities in Baltimore, have more incentives to stay there.  He could be the greatest jobs person God ever created.  

HANNITY:  Go vote for Hillary.  Go vote for Hillary.  


GASPARINO:  By the way, Donald Trump didn't invent the tax cut.  You do realize that?  

HANNITY:  John Kennedy did it.  Let's see, Ronald Reagan did it.  

GASPARINO:  And Mitt Romney wanted to do it, and every Republican candidate.  The difference between them and Donald Trump is he wants to engage in a trade war.  

HANNITY:  That's not what he said.  

WILLIS:  We don't want more regulation, either.  We left out another point. How about more regulation?  

HANNITY:  Talked about remedying regulations.  


GASPARINO:  Who doesn't like regulation?  

HANNITY:  The only one not frustrating me here is Gerri.  Gerri Willis' book right there "Rich is not a Four-Letter Word."


WILLIS:  "Jobs" is a four-letter word.

HANNITY:  Up next on this special edition of "Hannity" --


TRUMP:  There are so many things you could have privately to take care of health care.  ObamaCare is out of control, premiums are going up 25, 35, 45, 55 percent. We're going to repeal it and replace it with something great.  


HANNITY:  Donald Trump has promised to repeal and replace ObamaCare.  We're going to show you more of how he plans to do it and get reaction from Eboni Williams and Monica Crowley as this special edition of "Hannity, Road to the White House: Trump on the Issues" continues.    



TRUMP:  There are so many things you could have privately to take care of health care.  ObamaCare is out of control.  Your premiums are going up 25, 35, 45, 55 percent.  We're going to repeal it.  We're going to replace it with something great.  

We don't win with health care.  ObamaCare is a disaster.  

With health care, we have to repeal and replace ObamaCare.  

GASPARINO:  What would you replace it with?  

TRUMP:  Health care savings accounts, which are great.  We have to get rid of the lines.  We have to create competition.  When you do that, you will have the best health care you've ever, ever had, and it will be at a reasonable cost.  

We have to get rid of the lines around the states so that there's serious, serious competition.  And you're going to see -- excuse me, then you're going to see preexisting conditions and everything else be part of it, but the price will be down.  And the insurance companies can pay.  Right now they're making a fortune.  


HANNITY:  And welcome back to this special edition of "Hannity." That was Trump explaining his plans to improve America's health care system. Another key issue in this election is the Supreme Court as the next president may have nominate a new justice or many.  Here's Trump in his own words on that issue.  Take a look.  


TRUMP:  I'm going to name 10 or 12 judges that I would recommend to put on the Supreme Court, and I'm going to name them up front, and I'm only going to take the judges out of that pool of judges, because I want people to understand that I want the values, in terms of the Republican party and the conservatives, I want judges that are going to be happy with that.  I'm going to actually name 10 or 12 judges up front, and that would be a pool of which I will take and only take from that.  


HANNITY:  Here with reaction, Fox News contributors Monica Crowley and Eboni Williams.  I love the idea, especially conservatives, that they be skeptical of Donald Trump, says he is going to layout 10, 12 names of people for the Supreme Court that people will know ahead of time, and it's only from that pool that he will choose from.  It's a good idea.  

MONICA CROWLEY, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR:  What is so fascinating is that the two front runners on both sides have yet to lock down their bases, right? Hillary Clinton has yet to lock down the far left which is still with Bernie Sanders.  And on the right Donald Trump has some work to do with the conservative base.  One of the most important things he can do to reassure a lot of people who have concerns --

HANNITY:  Right there, that's a huge issue.

CROWLEY:  Because he is an unknown quantity, and he's talked about this so many times before, is release the list of conservative judges who are strict constitutionalists.  

HANNITY:  He's going to do it.  Can you imagine, what if Mike Lee and Ted Cruz's name popped up on that list?  

EBONI WILLIAMS, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: I think that would be music to Ted Cruz's ears, right?  Remember, right before he dropped out Ted Cruz hit hard on this issue.  You know, a very powerful ad talking about the skepticism around what a Trump nominee to the Supreme Court would look like.  So I think that will go a long way.  

HANNITY:  Do you remember one debate Donald Trump was talking about the lines, the lines became an issue.  Because I interviewed him just before that debate, and he went into detail about health care savings accounts, and said it over and over again.  But on the campaign trail every one of his opponents kept saying he kept referring to the Canadian system, which, by the way, he did.  But that is not on his website and that's not what he kept telling me again and again, he would go for health care savings accounts.  

CROWLEY:  Look, Since ObamaCare was signed into law in 2010, every time Republican candidates have run on repealing and replacing Obamacare, they won in droves, in 2010, in 2014.  In 2012, Mitt Romney because he was the grandfather of RomneyCare in Massachusetts couldn't legitimately make it an argument.  

If Donald Trump continues to make this argument, repeal, replace ObamaCare, replace it with patient-based and market-based solutions like the private accounts and so on, allowing insurance to be bought over state lines.  

HANNITY:  Portability, sure.  

CROWLEY:  He will win on that issue and might even win the presidency just on that alone.  

HANNITY:  Especially because prices this year on average --

CROWLEY:  They're going up one week before the presidential election.  

WILLIAMS:  It's a good opportunity for Donald Trump to be the compassionate conservative, right?  Because we have seen him on debate stages talk about people shouldn't be dying in the streets.  In their resumes now, some of the far right were booing it.  


WILLIAMS:  It wasn't you.  It was someone else.  

HANNITY:  Someone was OK with that?  

WILLIAMS:  I think they felt it sounded a little too close to government- supported health care, but Trump has now rectified it.  To Monica's point, he's clarified.  He's been more specific.  

HANNITY:  You're voting for Trump, aren't you?  

WILLIAMS:  Not only is he going to repeal but replace.  That replace part is important.  

HANNITY:  Are you voting for Trump?

WILLIAMS:  I actually haven't decided.  My mother is voting for Trump.  

HANNITY:  Coming up, we have more of this special edition of "Hannity, Road to the White House, Donald Trump on the Issues," as we continue.   


HANNITY:  Welcome back to this special edition of "Hannity." Unfortunately that is all the time we have this evening.  As always, thank you for being with us.  We hope you'll set your DVR so you never miss an episode.  We take attendance and it hurts our feelings if you're not here. Thanks for being with us.  Have a great weekend and we'll see you back here Monday.  


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