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Lessons learned from the Hawkeye State

This is a rush transcript from "The Five," February 2, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: One contest down. Only nine more months to go until America elects our next president.

I'm Eric Bolling along with Kimberly Guilfoyle, Juan Williams, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City, and this is "The Five."

Hello, everyone. We are back from Iowa where the first vote of 2016 presidential race is in the history books. And what a wild night it was. Today, the candidates are fanned out across New Hampshire. The next front in the war for the White House. More on that battle in just a minute.

The contest between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders was settled just today. Even though Clinton declared victory last night. The AP is called it in her favor. The closest race in Iowa caucus history.

Last night, Iowans set a new record for turnout in the republican race. Ted Cruz got the nod there surprising many pollsters who had Donald Trump pegged to win.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. TED CRUZ, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: God bless the great State of Iowa.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight, Iowa has proclaimed to the world, morning is coming. And tonight is a testament to the people's commitments, to their yearnings to get back to our core commitments, free market principles, constitutional liberty and the Judeo-Christian values that built this great nation.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BOLLING: And Trump placed second and Marco Rubio pulled off a strong finish in third adding fuel to his bid for the White House.

All right. So, we'll bring it around. We'll talk about the GOP first. We'll get to the democrats in a minute. Sum up for us, KG, what is your -- what is your take away.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: I'm in a -- well, it was very exciting. Iowa is fantastic. Lots of enthusiasm. I love a big turnout. Let's talk about that for sure. And on both sides in Hillary, wow. She's like WD-40'd so squeeze that little win right out. Didn't you?

So, she's in trouble. I am thinking New Hampshire and going forward we'll see what happened. As for Ted Cruz, I'm in a 12-step recovery program from the longest speech ever. And you know, as you know, we were waiting to take off till that. So, thanks for that.

And look, he pulled off the big victory, no doubt. He had a great ground game. So, he delivered what he promised. Marco Rubio I think was the big surprise. The big win, though, of the night, really outperforming, which I thought was fantastic.

He did what we talked about earlier in he program yesterday. You know, under promise, over deliver. So, that was a nice skill set that he displayed there. He has a lot of enthusiasm and momentum going into New Hampshire.

As for Donald Trump who is a very close race. He obviously outperformed what many of the critics thought he would be able to do and accomplish in Iowa. He is still in a strong position for New Hampshire.

And what I liked the most was how he handled the, you know, the second place finish. I thought he was gracious, his rhetoric, his language being, you know, very congratulatory to the other people running and he set a nice tone. Short and sweet.

BOLLING: So, it was a huge turnout, Dana. Now 186,000 or so caucus goers turned out this time. A 150 percent higher broke the record by 50 percent. Interesting, the top three finishers, Trump, Cruz, -- I'm sorry, Cruz, Trump, Rubio, all three would have had the highest vote totals in history.

DANA PERINO, CO-HOST: Right.

BOLLING: And only a few thousands separate them.

PERINO: And just to add to that, Ted Cruz ended up with more votes than any GOP winner in Iowa ever. So, he is that...

(CROSSTALK)

BOLLING: Yes. But so did Trump and so did...

PERINO: They did.

BOLLING: Rubio.

PERINO: Well, that is just amazing.

GUILFOYLE: They know a very good in that.

PERINO: That's huge. But I do think obviously Ted Cruz deserve a lot of credit for knowing that state well, he had really good organization. And he had a few things that could have tripped him up but they didn't. Are we going to do our -- do you want to do our sound bite now?

BOLLING: No, no. Don't say that.

PERINO: OK. Then I'll wait.

BOLLING: OK. Greg, your thoughts on the GOP.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: I think Rubio gained the most. It raises the question, is America ready for a president who looks like a teenage member of Menudo?

GUILFOYLE: Yes.

GUTFELD: He's like a straight Ricky Martin. And then if you look at the other side, you look at how close Sanders got to Hillary. I mean, who knew that there were that many socialists in Iowa. It's like finding Satanists in the Vatican or brain cells in Paris Hilton.

I mean, that she is the most famous woman on earth and she is being beaten by an obscure socialist. She's as popular as Shingles.

BOLLING: OK. One quick thought on the GOP before we get to your side.

JUAN WILLIAMS, CO-HOST: Well, I just think that it was big night for Marco Rubio. He's going to beat expectations. And it is interesting because it's like two-thirds of the voters in Iowa went for as clearly anti-establishment republican, Cruz and Trump.

But then all of a sudden, last minute when it was a matter of who can win in the general election. Who can beat Hillary Clinton? I think that boosted Rubio for people who are late to side her. And I think that's what was at work there.

But I got to always, I mean, let's just, you know, I don't play games here, Cruz is the Trump buster, right? I mean, he is the guy that beat all expectations. All the polls were wrong. Juan Williams was wrong. Everybody was wrong.

Everybody was wrong who thought, hey, there is not a poll that doesn't show Trump winning. Guess what? Cruz by targeting, micro targeting people, even sending out false notices saying Carson is out of the way.

(CROSSTALK)

PERINO: That's terrible.

WILLIAMS: Whatever he did, it worked. He won.

BOLLING: But again, all three of those guys would have broken the record for caucus winners.

GUILFOYLE: Which is exciting. It shows momentum.

BOLLING: Winner, yes. We'll run very quickly. Marco Rubio feels like the big winner from the night. Because now you have the four quote, unquote "establishment" candidates Rubio, Cruz, Christie, and Bush.

(CROSSTALK)

WILLIAMS: You can take Bush.

BOLLING: Or five, whatever. Now they all coalesce behind one guy. But look how this sets up. Now you have to outsiders vying for one vote and maybe the establishment goes behind Rubio. The script has been flipped on the outsiders versus the state sides.

WILLIAMS: Oh, no. Look, you coming out of New Hampshire. Those inside...

(CROSSTALK)

BOLLING: For one week. For one week.

WILLIAMS: What do you mean?

BOLLING: I mean, out of Iowa, only out of Iowa.

WILLIAMS: Oh, OK. Because I think in New Hampshire you're going to have all the establishment candidates who did not do well in Iowa with the exception of Rubio even if you consider him. Remember, he was a Tea Party guy at one point.

But if you consider him now acceptable for the establishment as compared to Cruz or Trump. Then you have in New Hampshire, Bush, Kasich, Christie and Rubio...

BOLLING: Fighting it out.

WILLIAMS: ... basically they say that's trouble.

BOLLING: All right. Dana, let's talk about your takeaway from last night.

PERINO: So, that's when we get to planning?

BOLLING: That's it, yes.

PERINO: OK. So, we were asked to think about it what you took away from that. One, I thought that turnout was higher for both. But it actually didn't end up helping who...

BOLLING: Yes.

PERINO: ... Evangelist thought it would help. So, the higher turnout they expected would help Bernie Sanders and Trump and that actually didn't -- wasn't the case. There was the higher turnout. But I think that shows that Cruz and Rubio and then Hillary Clinton had really good organization on the ground. So, there's that.

What I thought was interesting to me, is how do you nail your dismount, right? So, you stick the landing so that you can propel and jump right then into New Hampshire. Because you want a really good speech. And I felt like the two winners, Cruz and Hillary, did not have very good speeches. But that Trump and Rubio did themselves a favor, so I think we have both of those.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS)

CRUZ: Iowa has sent notice that the republican nominee and the next President of the United States will not be chosen by the media. Will not be chosen by the Washington establishment.

(APPLAUSE)

Will not be chosen by the lobbyists.

HILLARY CLINTON, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We have to be united against a republican vision and candidates who would drive us apart and divide us. That is not who we are, my friends. I followed their campaign very closely. I understand what they're appealing to. And I intend to stand against it.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PERINO: Yes. Now I should say, I think that Cruz had an amazing historical night. So, he was -- I think that the big knock against him was his speech was really long. But, whatever.

I just don't think that -- I think that he could have had a better head into New Hampshire. Now if you come in second and third, I think that Trump and Rubio did a better job with their bids to go on to the next state. I think we have that too.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS)

DONALD TRUMP, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I'm really honored and I want to congratulate Ted and I want to congratulate all of the incredible candidates, including Mike Huckabee who has become a really good friend of mine.

I want to thank all of the folks that worked with us. We had a great team. We're so happy with the way everything worked out.

SEN. MARCO RUBIO, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Tonight, I thank you in Iowa. I thank you because tonight we have taken the first step. But an important step toward winning this election.

Now the moment has arrived for this generation of Americans to rise up to the calling of our heritage. Now the time has come for to us take our place and do what we must. And when I'm elected president of these great United States, we will do our part.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PERINO: So, I felt like Trump was very gracious there and he didn't -- I didn't -- he didn't try to do something that would steal the spotlight away. Plus, besides, if you win the nomination, you got to go back to Iowa and try on win it because it will be an important state.

And then I think that Rubio, I talked to somebody who advises their campaign and he said I think that Rubio even surprised himself last night which is why I think it sounded humble and gracious.

BOLLING: Yes, I agree with both assessments. I think Trump was very good. He was humble and gracious and congratulated the winner and said, look, I'm coming back. I'm not done here.

PERINO: I'm going to buy a farm.

BOLLING: And Marco he was bid, he felt really good about it. All right. I'm going to tell you my takeaway tonight.

The coin toss. Are you kidding me? The democrats have decided who won the Iowa caucus over a coin toss. That means the leader of the free world on the democrat side, in their opinion, can be done by tossing a coin. Watch this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tails.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Tail.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you get?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You got the extra delegate.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I thought it was point left.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Point left?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. So, our official delegate for this precinct is Hillary Clinton.

(APPLAUSE)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was very, very close, people. Remember, this is the caucus. It was very, very close. It was called by a coin toss.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

BOLLING: So, Hillary wins by five precincts. She had six coin tosses which she won all six of.

PERINO: Oh, my God.

BOLLING: And the odds of that are 1 in 64. Because poor Bernie bought the old heads I win, tail you lose gag, I guess. But think about this for one second. If she's president, and they say, madam president, do we go to war? I don't know, toss a coin. Do we raise taxes? I don't know, heads. Should we open our borders? I'll go with heads again. Apparently, showing heads with all.

GUILFOYLE: I think that should only be for who is kicking and who is receiving, if you got what I mean as the commander-in-chief.

BOLLING: Yes, I got where you're going with that one.

GUILFOYLE: Yes.

BOLLING: All right. You want to tell us about yours?

GUILFOYLE: Yes. Because you just can't get enough HRC, right? So, here's the thing. When a coin toss she thinks that those weighted coins come in handy? Did you get them, distribute them? So, what happen was she decides that, OK. They say she is going to win or she's the winner of it. But she actually doesn't say that she won.

And in fact, Bill Clinton and Chelsea were supposed to speak. That was called off last second she got off, and was just like, whoa, weight off the shoulders. Take a look.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CLINTON: As I stand here tonight, breathing a big sigh of relief, thank you, Iowa!

(APPLAUSE)

I will keep doing what I have done my entire life. I will keep standing up for you. I will keep fighting for you. Join me. Let's go win the nomination. Thank you all and God bless you!

(APPLAUSE)

GUILFOYLE: You just can't feel so good about that. I mean, coin toss, it was so close. And, you know, how did Bernie Sanders pull it off? I believe it was Greg's t-shirt.

GUTFELD: Well, you bring it to the one in Greg's in a minute but won a coin toss? I mean, is this really the best way to pick your nominee?

WILLIAMS: I think the best way is to caucus and to have whatever the rules are, the rules are. But what's interesting to me is that, it was a dead heat.

Again, to pick, go back to what Dana was saying, huge turnout both sides, right? And that was supposed to benefit Trump and Bernie Sanders. You get the big turnout. You got the very lefty democratic base in the State of Iowa. And it is still a tie.

I think that's a surprise. And so, the thing is going into New Hampshire, I think Bernie has a 25-point advantage right now in the polls New Hampshire. He is from the neighboring state. He is likely to win.

But what does it mean going forward? And I don't think that it is a very good news. Because he has to now build a structure in place just like South Carolina, Nevada, and elsewhere. He just didn't have that. Hillary is already there.

BOLLING: Quick thought before we go?

GUTFELD: Sure. I thought I'd left the building. The fact that Sanders got this close tells you two things. That Hillary Clinton is a bad candidate. Hillary Clinton is a bad candidate. And it's amazing. She's so bad.

GUILFOYLE: Heads or tails.

GUTFELD: She's so bad. That even being a historical first is not going to help her. The fact that she is running as a woman is not going to help her. And the fact that a socialist -- the fact that you can only vote for a socialist if you've never experienced socialist or socialism.

It's like liver and onions. Once you've tried it, you never have it again. That's why it's no on dinner menu. Socialism is the liver and onions of ideology and it's amazing that that actually came close to beating, again, probably one of the most famous women on the planet but nobody -- nobody can stand her. She's this popular.

PERINO: And if Sanders had just done a little bit to attack her or just question her trustworthiness on the e-mails, he probably would have won.

GUTFELD: Yes.

BOLLING: Can I throw one more stat in there?

PERINO: Go ahead.

BOLLING: There is never been, in less 40 years, there is never been a president who has lost both Iowa and New Hampshire. So, you have to win one of the two to become President of the United States. At least over the last 40 years.

GUILFOYLE: We'll see what happens there.

BOLLING: Any prediction on the top three in New Hampshire? I know we're doing New Hampshire...

(CROSSTALK)

PERINO: We're doing New Hampshire in C block.

BOLLING: Do you want to try it? No?

GUTFELD: NO, I'll wait.

BOLLING: Anybody?

GUILFOYLE: I don't know.

BOLLING: Oh, my God. Wow. Such a huge energy. All right. Last night's vote tweeted to us. Our Twitter handle is @thefive, use the hash tag The Five. We're going to answer some of your questions ahead. More of our takeaways from last night who won some grace when The Five returns.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GUILFOYLE: Welcome back to The Five's Iowa caucus breakdown and our takeaways from the night. Juan, what do you have?

WILLIAMS: Well, you know, Greg was so disdainful of liver. And I happen to like liver and onions.

GUILFOYLE: And gizzards.

WILLIAMS: Yes.

GUTFELD: I'm very mean to my liver.

WILLIAMS: Well, but I have for you, Greg. We're going to serve up for you, baked cauliflower. Please, roll the tape of Bernie Sanders.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SANDERS: What Iowa has begun tonight is a political revolution.

(APPLAUSE)

When young people and working people and seniors begin to stand up and say loudly and clearly, enough is enough.

(APPLAUSE)

That our government, the government of our great country belongs to all of us. And not just a handful of billionaires. When that happens, we will transform this country.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WILLIAMS: I think he's talking to you, Gregory. He's talking about free health care, single payer health care, free education...

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: Right.

WILLIAMS: ... higher education, raising the minimum wage, higher taxes on Eric. This is what we're talking about.

GUTFELD: Yes. A failed ideology that destroyed countries. By the way, he reminds me of somebody at the rental car agency who is mad that he didn't get the Sebring. And he wanted the Cadillac because they were going down Highway 1. But they didn't have. They had a hard top and he is demanding a refund.

WILLIAMS: Well, but you know what, look. I think Bernie did OK.

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: He's a nice guy. But he is preaching a deadly ideology.

WILLIAMS: No, I mean, if Bernie...

(CROSSTALK)

BOLLING: He did great.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, what are you talking about?

WILLIAMS: Again, look, I'm telling something. Bernie had a chance there...

BOLLING: A socialist is now tied with Hillary Clinton.

WILLIAMS: Right.

BOLLING: He did fantastic.

GUTFELD: Wait. A socialist is tied with a socialist.

WILLIAMS: Correct. You guys can't even, you can't even recognize, wait a second. That electorate as we keep repeating is very -- I mean, I think it's 43 percent of them say they are socialist.

GUTFELD: Yes. You know what, it's because the media, the academia and the government has created an incredible snow job for the last four decades painting socialism as some kind of romantic notion instead of something that actually kills.

WILLIAMS: Oh, look. You know what I think? They're mad, their populist energy mad at republicans. I think they think that this is the democratic response, the far right of the Republican Party.

GUTFELD: I won't disappoint -- I won't disagree with you there.

GUILFOYLE: I prefer your comments last night as we were watching the returns come in and you were crushing red wine.

GUTFELD: What was I saying?

GUILFOYLE: Yes. And you were saying, write it down. You'll forget to say. Oh, I won't forget, Kimberly now the placement Hillary and...

GUTFELD: Oh, I didn't say that.

BOLLING: Oh, yes. Let's move on, shall we?

PERINO: Can I mention one thing about Bernie? It's this one point.

GUILFOYLE: Right.

GUTFELD: How dare you!

PERINO: That he really relied on millennials and young people and they did not turn out. They turn out to his rallies but the turnout at the caucuses was not as strong as what Hillary was able to turnout with seniors who overwhelmingly supported her more than millennials supported Bernie.

WILLIAMS: Isn't that interesting. And also, you can divide it by incomes. People of upper incomes and even moderate incomes supported Hillary.

PERINO: Yes.

WILLIAMS: It was young people and people of lower income who supported...

BOLLING: Yes. Because they don't have to pick up the tab.

WILLIAMS: Oh, wait -- wait a minute. I thought you were a Bernie supporter because you hated Hillary.

BOLLING: No, I want him. I want him to have the nomination.

WILLIAMS: Yes. So, you can beat him.

GUILFOYLE: So, he can be beaten.

WILLIAMS: So, you can beat him up.

GUILFOYLE: But he is too expensive. We can't afford him. We're going to have to export him to another country. Perhaps and I'm sure he would quite like it. Like done as well. Greg, what do have for us?

GUTFELD: I know a lot of people are focusing on the candidates but I find that very boring.

GUILFOYLE: Right.

GUTFELD: I'm always interested in finding out about that person behind the scenes. The person behind the person if you catch my drift. Hopefully it's not Bill Clinton. But it might be somebody behind Bill Clinton. If you see behind Bill, you see this young fellow. Right there. There he is. That's a -- he's a Drake University student, Peter Clinksdale (ph) is his name.

GUILFOYLE: Is that the guy from the plane that was after me? Remember the one that was...

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: Well, you're going to have to be more specific.

GUILFOYLE: OK.

GUTFELD: But any way, I don't know, he is very emotional. He looks like he's imitating a fish.

WILLIAMS: Is that his fang?

GUTFELD: But he's stuck on Hillary because he's got stickers all over his face. Although he could be a Sanders plant. We're not quite sure. But he tried to speak.

GUILFOYLE: Did you do an investigation?

GUTFELD: I'm too lazy to investigate. I just thought the video was fantastic.

GUILFOYLE: So, wow. Is that it?

GUTFELD: That's it.

GUILFOYLE: Is it time for Twitter Tuesday?

GUTFELD: You know it. you know it, yes.

GUILFOYLE: You know it. Well, with Iowa in the book, New Hampshire is next. The candidates are staked out across the state today. The war games, that battle when The Five returns. And Menudo.

GUTFELD: And Menudo.

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PERINO: Hey, with Iowa behind in the presidential candidates they are -- I'm so tired -- are full throttle today in New Hampshire where the first primary of 2016 is going to take place next Tuesday. Three governors in the race. Bush, Kasich and Christie are pinning their hopes on the state to get their campaigns back in play. Donald Trump is predicting to come back. And Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz are also optimistic about the next contest ahead of them. Take a listen.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

CRUZ: You all treat politics in New Hampshire like we treat football in Texas. There are millions of Americans who are counting on each and every one of you to vet the candidates.

RUBIO: We need your help. We're here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. All right.

RUBIO: A week from today I need your vote here in New Hampshire.

JEB BUSH, (R) U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: When you run for president, you got to show your heart. I'm excited to be here the next seven days to do that here in New Hampshire.

CHRIS CHRISTIE, (R) U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You are going to make some big decisions this week and I hope you make them in my direction. If you do, we'll win on Tuesday night. I'll just do well but we'll win.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PERINO: All right. So, there's a quite a pivot, Greg, when you go from Iowa to New Hampshire. Cruz had a lot about the Evangelicals about 70 percent of the state. You know, that's not the case in New Hampshire. It's a little bit in New Hampshire, it always, they tend to do the opposite. But can Cruz pull off a win in New Hampshire, too?

GUTFELD: I don't know. I did some research on New Hampshire. It is a very interesting state.

PERINO: OK.

GUTFELD: It gave Ronnie James Dio, the late Ronnie James Dio, singer from Rainbow, Black Sabbath, Dio, and of course, your favorite band, Elf. "Dogpatch" from Li'l Abner was based on Seabrook. "Jumanji" was filmed in Keane.

But the most interesting thing about New Hampshire it's where you go to hide. In both The Sopranos and Breaking Bad, central characters went to New Hampshire to hide. So, their new motto should be, New Hampshire, no one looks here. I think that would work.

PERINO: I think that's a beautiful state.

GUTFELD: Yes, it is.

PERINO: Do you want to comment on the politics?

GUTFELD: Absolutely not. I don't want to comment on it. I'm so politic out.

PERINO: All right.

GUTFELD: My brain is fried.

PERINO: OK. Well, then...

GUTFELD: Who are you?

PERINO: And then...

GUTFELD: Megyn, you did you a great job in the debate.

PERINO: Thank you, thank you. Kimberly, do you need my help?

(CROSSTALK)

GUILFOYLE: Are you going to help me?

PERINO: Yes, all right.

GUILFOYLE: OK.

PERINO: In Iowa the polls showed that Trump was going to win. In New Hampshire, polls show Trump is going to win. Do you think the polls are more accurate in New Hampshire than Iowa?

GUILFOYLE: Well, statistically speaking, they by and large, they are considerable margin of errors. So, you would say that in fact that they are. Because he enjoys that quite sizable lead in New Hampshire.

Of course, then you have other people with momentum. Let's see as we get in a little bit closer. I don't think anybody is taking anything for granted or going to kind of, you know, rest on their laurels.

We also saw the effectiveness of having a highly calibrated ground game and that worked very well for Cruz and for Marco Rubio. Marco Rubio didn't talk about his ground game as much but he did deliver it. So, I think them...

(CROSSTALK)

GUTFELD: Maybe they'll take it for Granite.

GUILFOYLE: Oh, you want to get back in now.

GUTFELD: The Granite state.

PERINO: You're just like a minute and a half behind today.

GUTFELD: Yes, I am.

PERINO: We'll come back -- we'll come back to you in a minute.

WILLIAMS: Do you know why that is? Do you know why that is, though? He's the old man on the mountain.

PERINO: I know what that means.

GUILFOYLE: I thought he was...

PERINO: Let me ask Eric. So Rubio leaves Iowa with a...

WILLIAMS: Iowa thing. New Hampshire thing. Thank you.

PERINO: OK. Rubio leaves Iowa with some wind at his back. And I didn't know what was going. I checked this out to make sure. He right now is polling as the only one in the race that beats Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire in the general election.

BOLLING: Interesting. A few more stats?

PERINO: Sure. Only twice has Iowa picked the nominee in this whole caucus process in the last 40 years. Eight times out of ten, New Hampshire has picked the nominee. Interesting that New Hampshire we know is way more secular, as you point out. And also more moderate. So it's going to flip. I think that takes away from the Cruz momentum more than a little bit. Probably more than a little. Marco Rubio is on an up slope. We talked about that. We talked about that over the last few days. I would suggest...

GUILFOYLE: Also Kasich and Christie, by the way.

BOLLING: So I would say probably Trump and maybe a Rubio, too. Cruz, Kasich and Christie have some fun at third.

Money, very quickly -- money is going to be very important. Because of that Rubio win and that performance, I think he's going to get a lot of money over the next two weeks between now and New Hampshire and then South Carolina. That's very important.

But also, Donald Trump hasn't spent any money. He'll tell you that. He hasn't spent a lot of money. Let's put it that way. But if he does, and he really wants to win and be president, he needs to start spending some money in New Hampshire now. Because you need the win...

PERINO: Didn't he tweet today that he doesn't get any credit for self- funding his campaign, and maybe it's not worth it?

BOLLING: I didn't see that.

PERINO: I don't know if that's...

BOLLING: Hopefully, he sees the importance on the ground.

PERINO: Maybe he'll listen to your...

BOLLING: The ground game costs a lot of money.

GUILFOYLE: Ground game. But you know what?  Sometimes you've...

GUTFELD: You can't figure out why he didn't have to spend any money. Still haven't figured that out.

PERINO: Really?

GUTFELD: No. It's a mystery to you.

PERINO: We'll check back with you in a minute, see if you figure it out.

Juan, I want to -- I'm going to show you some sound from Hillary and Bernie up in New Hampshire.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

HILARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I am so thrilled that I'm coming to New Hampshire after winning Iowa!

We're bringing all that energy, all that excitement, all that determination right here to New Hampshire, where we're going to work hard up until the primary next week.

SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-VT), DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We just got in from Iowa, where we astounded the world. Now in New Hampshire, we're going to astound the world again.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GUILFOYLE: Oh, my gosh.

PERINO: OK. Bernie is way up in the polls in New Hampshire. I don't know: with Democrats, does Iowa and New Hampshire usually track?

WILLIAMS: No.

PERINO: Each other now?

WILLIAMS: Neither. On either side, Republican or Democrat. What's interesting about New Hampshire is the large number of independents. And you can, in a primary you can vote on either side.

So you just to have go in, as a candidate, you are really reaching to the middle in a way that you don't in a state like Iowa with all the evangelicals. Take an issue like abortion, pretty definitive with the evangelical community in Iowa. You don't see that play that way in New Hampshire.

And on the Democratic side, I think the question is, should Hillary Clinton really put a whole lot of effort in? Because I think Bernie is going to win as the neighboring guy, right?

GUTFELD: She does have a beautiful voice, though. Did you hear that?

PERINO: It sounds like she's losing her voice.

GUILFOYLE: She can do a duet with Ted Cruz.

PERINO: It says -- Eric, here's another stat for you. It is said that in New Hampshire, a candidate needs to actually meet and talk face to face with the voters five times each.

BOLLING: That's the number? Interesting, also, that New Hampshire has one-third the population of Iowa. Yet three times the number of voters turn out in New Hampshire than Iowa. Think about that.

PERINO: We are filled full of fun facts.

GUTFELD: And Iowa...

GUILFOYLE: And corny jokes.

GUTFELD: ... is a shorter word but has more vowels.

GUILFOYLE: God, what a weirdo.

GUTFELD: I can even check that.

BOLLING: But the same number as Ohio.

GUTFELD: Exactly.

BOLLING: Interestingly.

GUTFELD: Way to go, Ohio.

PERINO: You guys are blowing my mind. All right. Next, we answer your questions on last night's election and beyond. So please stick around.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

GUTFELD: So on this Twitter Tuesday we're answering some of your questions on the presidential election.

So let's begin, Dana.

PERINO: OK.

GUTFELD: This is from Allison. Not including anything about politics, thank God. "What surprised you the most about Iowa?"

PERINO: Well, it had been a few years since I've been in Des Moines. And I have to say, I love to watch cities redevelop and revitalize. And the downtown area of Des Moines was great.

And if you are a young person that wants to start a business, it seemed to me like that would be a really great place to be. The new loft apartments and great little tech businesses, good restaurants, and I got to go to yoga at a winery named Jasper.

GUTFELD: Yes.

PERINO: What's better than that?

GUTFELD: There's some interesting -- there's some interesting clubs over there, you know, if you're into certain kinds of things. Alternative lifestyles.

GUILFOYLE: You were hanging out at the lesbian bar the whole time.

GUTFELD: Eric.

There's about 13 -- there are about 13 jokes that can go with that.

BOLLING: I agree with Dana. Last time I was there was 2008, Michele Bachmann, of '07, when she announced she was going to run for president. And it's a completely different city, a lot of cafes, coffee shops, beautiful bistros in the street. Gorgeous little town. And agreed, a very young town, it seems.

PERINO: And the capital is beautiful.

WILLIAMS: Oh, I love the capital. Let me just say, I've been there forever, right? The old dog around here. But I must tell you, the weather is the biggest surprise to me, because the weather was great.

PERINO: Yes.

WILLIAMS: I -- typically, I am afraid of going -- in the summer it's beautiful. But in the winter, Iowa is bitterly cold, and the wind whips. And you just -- because there's nothing to stop it; it's just flat.

GUTFELD: Yes.

WILLIAMS: I thought the weather this week was great. And I understand it snowed today.

PERINO: A little bit.

BOLLING: Just a dusting. We were all freaking out we weren't going to get out.

GUTFELD: Yes.

BOLLING: It was going to be a monster snowstorm.

GUILFOYLE: A few panic attacks in the bar.

GUTFELD: K.G., what surprised you about Iowa? Any other secrets you'd like to tell?

GUILFOYLE: Oh, you have no idea. Yes. All right. Well, let's start with, how about the cowboy bar? Uh-huh. That was...

PERINO: I can't believe I missed that.

GUILFOYLE: Save a horse, ride a cowboy. Some people took that seriously.

WILLIAMS: My goodness.

GUILFOYLE: And then dinner, food. Eric, that was fantastic. We went to Jethro's Barbecue "Bacon Bacon Night." Remember that? So that was very good. Where we had the Elvis pancakes...

GUTFELD: Yes.

GUILFOYLE: ... fried bananas, the peanut butter syrup, and The Five-pound sandwich, and then the ribs wrapped in the bacon. It was quite tasty. And then the Bloody Mary with the bacon in it.

GUTFELD: Yes.

GUILFOYLE: It's on the Internet.

GUTFELD: You know what surprised me the most about Iowa? Is like, what is their problem with the letter "S"? You know, it's -- It should be "Dess Moine-ess." They don't pronounce their "S's" in Des Moines. What's the problem with the "S's"? Where did that come from?

GUILFOYLE: They keep buying vowels.

GUTFELD: Is that it?

PERINO: I hate when people buy vowels. It's usually a waste of money.

GUTFELD: It really is a waste of money.

PERINO: My advice.

GUTFELD: Yes.

WILLIAMS: So Gregory, do you know what it means?

GUTFELD: No, I -- please tell me, Juan.

WILLIAMS: "The monks."

GUTFELD: Oh, really?

WILLIAMS: Yes, monks settled in Des Moines.

GUTFELD: There you go. Juan knows some interesting stuff.

WILLIAMS: Well, that was crazy.

(CROSSTALK)

GUILFOYLE: It's on that bizarre phone of yours, right?

BOLLING: OK.

PERINO: Hit us with another one.

BOLLING: Monks.

GUTFELD: French?

WILLIAMS: Yes.

GUTFELD: All right. This is from someone named Sports Radio. Talk about having cruel parents. All right. It's just stupid. Why am I here today?

GUILFOYLE: We're going to get pulled off the air.

GUTFELD: "Do you think -- do you think..."

GUILFOYLE: It's going to happen.

GUTFELD: "Do you think Trump loss" -- I think he means, "Do you think the Trump loss will make him come back stronger/better candidate? When he has failed in the past, he always seems to." I guess mean, "come back."

PERINO: Well, he only has 140 characters. It's Twitter Tuesday.

GUTFELD: That is true.

PERINO: Economy of words.

GUILFOYLE: That's the problem. People -- yes, they're not writing...

GUTFELD: Eliminated the -- yes. Oh, so it's my fault.

PERINO: Yes.

GUTFELD: All right. Let's start with you, K.G. Do you remember the question? Because...

GUILFOYLE: I remember that you said it was unfortunate that his parents named him Sports Radio. I think that's not his real name, but we'll go with it. So yes.

I think that Donald Trump is not planning on losing New Hampshire. I think he's probably going to take it, because I don't think he's going to allow any other outcome, especially after, you know, placing second in a tight race with Trump [SIC]. That's what you do when you want to win.

GUTFELD: Juanzo.

WILLIAMS: If Cruz had lost in Iowa, he would be buried. He'd be gone. OK, so he's still around.

If Trump loses in New Hampshire, he'll be buried. So I think Trump is going to organize, work harder. I mean, one of the telltale signs for me is...

GUILFOYLE: Spend cash.

WILLIAMS: ... in Iowa -- you've got to spend cash, as Eric was saying. But one of the telltale signs for me in Iowa was hearing from Cruz people who said they did not see Trump's people on the ground. They didn't see the ground game. And I thought that's weird.

BOLLING: Spend the money.

WILLIAMS: Yes. So I guess now he's going to have to ante up.

BOLLING: Yes. It feels like, with this momentum with Rubio, that Trump is going to do what he has to do to win New Hampshire. And then don't forget, Rubio gotten endorsed by Senator...

PERINO: Tim Scott.

BOLLING: ... Tim Scott in South Carolina, which is the next ten days after New Hampshire. It's going to -- it feels like Trump and Rubio going down the stretch. And a lot of money will be spent on both sides of that.

PERINO: Uh-oh, the Cruz people will be after you.

BOLLING: They're -- believe me, they're already after us -- me.

PERINO: I have a quick answer.

GUTFELD: Sure. Please do.

PERINO: I think that we'll know more after Saturday. Because there is -- people have kind of forgotten, there is a Republican debate Saturday night.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, Dana.

PERINO: And it's hosted by ABC. It's in New Hampshire.

WILLIAMS: Is Trump coming?

PERINO: I would assume.

WILLIAMS: Because I think not showing up...

PERINO: Was not a good -- that was not a good decision.

Anyway, a lot of -- we saw in the focus groups in the polling that a lot of people in Iowa waited until after that last debate to make up their mind who they were going to vote for. And in New Hampshire we know there's probably about 45 percent of people who have not made a final decision yet. So this debate on Saturday matters.

GUILFOYLE: Show up and give them the razzle dazzle.

GUTFELD: So I don't answer? OK.

GUILFOYLE: Bye.

GUTFELD: "What does a Rubio surprise look like in New Hampshire?" I don't even know what that means.

PERINO: Surprise!

GUTFELD: There you go.

GUILFOYLE: Reunited, Menudo.

GUTFELD: Yes, there you go. Juan.

WILLIAMS: Look, he's got...

GUILFOYLE: A first-place finish. That would be a surprise.

WILLIAMS: Well, he's got -- he's got to beat -- as I was saying, he's got to beat Kasich, you know, Bush, Christie, all that. So he's got to right now. The surprise would be if he was able to come out ahead of all those. Not necessarily win. He's not going to win. I think it is Trump's to lose. But I don't think he can win it.

GUILFOYLE: Well, you never know.

GUTFELD: Surprise? What do you think?

BOLLING: I think he comes in second.

PERINO: I actually think the surprise would be if he doesn't place in the top two.

GUTFELD: Yes, OK.

PERINO: That would be the surprise. How about that? It's the other way around.

GUTFELD: Yes. I would be surprised, like, if he went on a crime spree. If he just showed up there and started robbing banks. And he said, "I never wanted to be president. I just wanted to get to New Hampshire so I could rob some banks."

GUILFOYLE: Robbing boots? Like boots?

BOLLING: You know what would be a surprise? If any one of them mentioned faith in their speeches.

GUILFOYLE: Here's the thing.

GUTFELD: Faith Hill, you mean? She's a fabulous singer.

GUILFOYLE: The takeaway about Rubio? Likable.

GUTFELD: Yes, that's true.

GUILFOYLE: Likable.

GUTFELD: Yes. All right.

GUILFOYLE: Remember that.

GUTFELD: I will. It's forgotten. I have the memory of a fish.

OK. Two more candidates left the presidential race last night. Who will exit next? Some final thoughts when "The Five" returns. Final...

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

WILLIAMS: And then there were 11 on the right and two on the left. Mike Huckabee and Martin O'Malley both ending their bid for the presidency after poor showings in the Iowa caucuses last night.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MIKE HUCKABEE (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: As we come here tonight, it's time to officially suspend the campaign. But not because of the votes. It's because of illness. Obviously, the voters are sick of me, and I need to acknowledge that.

MARTIN O'MALLEY (D), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I have to tell you that I am suspending this presidential bid. But I am not ending this fight. Because the fight that you and I are engaged in is a tough fight. And I believe that the toughness of the fight is the way the hidden God of telling us we're actually fighting for something worth saving.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WILLIAMS: I know that you were moved by those words from Martin O'Malley, Gregory.

GUTFELD: Yes, he suspended his campaign, which I found out was just a hair brush and a bucket of brine shrimp.

GUILFOYLE: Mean!

GUTFELD: I don't know what he was doing there. I'm serious. He has the presence of a -- of a drain fly. Whenever he was there at the debate, he just kind of was there. I didn't understand it. How can he -- how can he suspend a campaign if he was never there?

WILLIAMS: All right. Well, let me say on the Republican side, you know, it looks like Ben Carson didn't do very well. He might be somebody who's thinking, but guess what? He says he was the victim of dirty politics. And today, an apology from Ted Cruz.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Ben Carson is someone whom I respect and admire. Ben and Candy have become friends. We've had dinner together more than once. And he is a man of great character and integrity and principle. I really very much admire him.

Last night when CNN posted a news report that Ben was not continuing on to New Hampshire, not continuing on to South Carolina but instead was going to Florida, our political team forwarded it to the members of our team. But unfortunately, they did not then forward the subsequent story that was Ben's campaign clarifying that -- that he was continuing the campaign and was not canceling the campaign.

And so I apologized to Ben for that. They should have forwarded that subsequent story. That was a mistake on our part.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WILLIAMS: Dana, are you buying it?

PERINO: Um.

WILLIAMS: It doesn't look like it.

PERINO: Here's the thing. It's kind of unfortunate. But also, it didn't matter. I don't think that it actually suppressed turnout. I don't think that Ben Carson was going to place in the top three.

GUILFOYLE: It shaved points off of other candidates.

WILLIAMS: Yes. And also the evangelical vote.

GUILFOYLE: I know. That wasn't accidental.

BOLLING: I think -- yes, he should have forwarded another e-mail once they cleared it up. But man, CNN, what were they thinking?

WILLIAMS: They went for the bait, though.

BOLLING: What were they thinking?

WILLIAMS: That was reckless.

All right. "One More Thing" up next.

GUILFOYLE: Not to Hannity.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BOLLING: All righty. Time for "One More Thing." I'm going to kick it off.

Some great news: FOX News crushed the caucus coverage last night. We were No. 1 in total viewers peaking at 5.1 million viewers, and that's an 80 percent increase over 2008, the last time there was an open Democrat and Republican primary. Get this: It's a whopping 697 percent increase from 2000. So congrats to all who worked so hard to bring you the most watched caucus coverage ever -- Greg.

GUTFELD: We peaked with viewers. I peek at viewers sometimes.

I'm on "O'Reilly" tonight. It will be a disaster. Watch us. Trust me. Not going to be good.

GUILFOYLE: I'm on "O'Reilly" tonight, and it's amazing.

GUTFELD: Yes, well, you're always amazing...

GUILFOYLE: "Is It Legal?"

GUTFELD: ... when you're on "O'Reilly."

All right. Two of my favorite people in the world...

GUILFOYLE: Terrible.

GUTFELD: ... Hillary Clinton and Rosie O'Donnell, I thought, "Why don't we just bring them together just to make all of us feel really good?"

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ROSIE O'DONNELL, FORMER TALK SHOW HOST: Go.

HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Hi, Nancy.

O'DONNELL (singing): Hi, Helen.

CLINTON (singing): What's the story, morning glory?

O'DONNELL (singing): What's the tale, nightingale?

CLINTON (singing): Tell me quick about Hugo and Tim.

O'DONNELL (singing): Hi, Margie.

CLINTON (singing): Hi, Alice.

O'DONNELL (singing): What's the story, morning glory?

CLINTON (singing): What's the word, hummingbird?

(END VIDEO CLIP)

GUTFELD: I did this, because I feel so bad today. Because I haven't had any sleep. I wanted everybody to feel bad.

GUILFOYLE: You've accomplished that.

Under promised, over-delivered on that one.

GUTFELD: Your turn, K.G.

GUILFOYLE: OK. So yesterday I had Moose on my chest, remember that?

GUTFELD: Yes. Who can forget?

GUILFOYLE: So sweet. Pets for Patriots.

GUTFELD: It's a dog.

GUILFOYLE: Yes. And so now I have a groundhog. Punxsutawney Phil. So he didn't see his shadow in Western Pennsylvania, so as the legends go, apparently now, this means we're going to have an early spring, right?

BOLLING: Yes.

GUTFELD: Wasn't it the mayor who killed it?

GUILFOYLE: If he didn't, it would be six weeks longer.

GUTFELD: De Blasio killed it?

BOLLING: De Blasio, yes. Dropped it. Dropped it.

GUILFOYLE: Didn't he kill the turkey, too? Who killed the turkey?

GUTFELD: Staten Island...

GUILFOYLE: Pardoned the turkey.

PERINO: All right. I'm going to lighten the mood. Do you want to see a baby that can't stop laughing because his pug keeps pushing her over?

GUILFOYLE: what?

PERINO: Just watch this.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

(BABY GIGGLING AS PUG KNOCKS HER OVER)

(END VIDEO CLIP)

PERINO: So that's hilarious. That's baby Kennedy. She lives in San Francisco with her two pug friends, Barnum and Bailey. Great names.

GUTFELD: That would be funny if that was, like, a tiger.

GUILFOYLE: What is wrong with you?

PERINO: Dogs and babies are usually a good, safe go-to for "One More Thing."

GUILFOYLE: Mom -- Mom, can you excuse him from the table? No dinner.

WILLIAMS: He's quite amusing. You don't find amusing?

GUILFOYLE: No.

WILLIAMS: No? You've just got to give him a little...

GUILFOYLE: Off (ph) on my wrong foot.

WILLIAMS: All right. Back to work. Starting today -- starting today, if you go to Mickey D's and order a Happy Meal, your prize will be a book. That's right.

GUILFOYLE: I love it.

WILLIAMS: McDonald's is partnering with Reading is Fundamental to give away 100,000 books.

Happy Valentine's Day, Moose. I know you don't like Valentine's Day, but that...

GUILFOYLE: No, I like that.

PERINO: That is so great. I love that McDonald's is doing that.

WILLIAMS: Isn't that great? They've got four books they're giving away. And this is the third year, Dana, the fast food restaurant is serving up books.

And guess this -- get this. By the end of this year, 2016, they will have given away 50 million books. That's unbelievable.

GUILFOYLE: That's fantastic.

WILLIAMS: That's really good stuff. McDonald's, that's wonderful.

PERINO: That's great.

GUILFOYLE: Burger King...

PERINO: And if you look at the number of how few books are actually in homes for a lot of children and the impact that has on their lives. I think this is a good idea.  

GUILFOYLE: You should donate. Why don't you donate?

PERINO: Are you sad that they didn't choose your book?

BOLLING: All right. We're going to leave it there. And just to let you know, we flew home with Bret Baier last night and talked about every time we finish with a "One More Thing" like this. Bret, what do you think about that? He's like, "Oh, my gosh."

PERINO: He said he loves it. He loves it.

BOLLING: By the way, he's in New York. He's coming at you right now from...

GUILFOYLE: Time for a real show.

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