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Bachmann's take: National Review's 'Against Trump' manifesto will only help him

This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," January 22, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Some conservative celebrities lining up to throw their support to Donald Trump. Earlier this week Trump locking in former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, and now Trump is getting an endorsement from the "Quack Attack." Duck Dynasty star Willie Robertson saying Trump is his guy.

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WILLIE ROBERTSON, AMERICAN REALITY TV PERSONALITY, CEO OF DUCK COMMANDER: This man needs no introduction. You all know who he is, the man I'm standing behind this year to be the next President of the United States, to help make America great again.

SARAH PALIN, FORMER ALASKA GOVERNOR: Donald Trump he's talked about the issues that matter. The issues that you and I talk about. Things are gonna be different when he's elected.

ROBERTSON: The man I have the honor of introducing is not afraid to tell it like it is. He's not very politically correct. He's very bold. He loves his country. And he firmly stands behind the Second Amendment.

PALIN: He finally is the candidate that we can count on to be the President for all Americans.

 

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VAN SUSTEREN: Do these big name endorsements have an impact? Do they get votes? Do they convince the undecided to do vote for a candidate or persuade someone to change his or her vote? What about these endorsements for Donald Trump? Former Minnesota Congresswoman Michele Bachmann goes "On the Record." Good evening, and I should say that Willie Robertson's father, Phil, a week ago endorsed Ted Cruz, so it's one for Cruz and one for Trump. Do these celebrity endorsements matter?

MICHELE BACHMANN, FORMER MINNESOTA CONGRESSWOMAN: You know I think that they are important fill-in for a lot of reasons. But I think ultimately, people make their mind up, Greta, based on what is the message? What is the demeanor? Can I trust this person? Will they do what they said they are going to do? I think there is really one thing that stands out above all others to explain the Trump phenomena. That's because Donald Trump understands one of the biggest concerns that Americans are looking at today, Democrats, independents, and the Republicans is this issue of unmitigated immigration.

He put his finger on that. He hasn't pulled back, despite the criticism. And people want to know. Who is going to do something about this issue? But, more importantly, who is going to stop the Obama agenda, and so people are looking at Cruz, and Trump, and making their minds up now in the next probably 60 to 90 days.

VAN SUSTEREN: Aren't jobs more important though? I mean, you know -- I mean as much as people care about things, those other issues, I mean, isn't the first thing do I have a job? Can he pay off student loans? Aren't jobs the most important?

BACHMANN: Well, that's always been the number one issue in year after year after year, jobs has been the number one thing. This is very different. We got a poll not so long ago that said that terrorism was the number one issue that people face, particularly after San Bernardino and after the Paris attacks. People have a heightened concern and those ties in with immigration. Of course, people are concerned about the economy. But I think, again, they reject the Obama prescription for the economy.

They look at a fighter like Ted Cruz. They look at a businessman like Donald Trump and say these are two guys we think can do the job.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. The National Review has -- lack of better description anti-Trump manifesto and has 22 conservatives who wrote articles about it and some people in the beltway think this has a great significance in terms of setting conservative agenda. I don't think anyone in my hometown reads any of these people. I don't think it's going to move a vote. I don't know. So you tell me. Does this National Review online have an anti-Trump manifesto mean anything to the voters, do you think, in Iowa?

BACHMANN: Well, certainly people listen to Glenn Beck. Certainly, people listen to Eric Erickson. There are a lot of really great people that are in that magazine, Thomas Seoul, for instance. Does it have an impact? Yes, it does. Ultimately, the bigger impact is the candidate themselves. I think ultimately, Trump is only going to be strengthened. Cruz will only be strengthened. I really believe we are at a two man race now. I think past Iowa and New Hampshire, the rest of these races are going to poll pretty fast. We are going to know pretty soon who our nominee is.

VAN SUSTEREN: You know I think Glenn Beck and Eric Erickson give Donald Trump more ammunition. He loves these fights and he is going to dig right back into the background and talk all about them. I don't know. I think he is clever. So I think this is going to be more interesting, not less interesting. Anyway, Congresswoman, thank you for joining us.

BACHMANN: Thanks so much, Greta.