Real-life heroes tell all about the Benghazi attack

On 'The Kelly File,' exclusive insight into what really happened on the ground


This is a rush transcript from "The Kelly File," January 18, 2016. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

MEGYN KELLY, HOST: Breaking tonight for the very first time, you're about to hear exclusive new insight into a devastating terror attack from the American heroes who lived to tell about it. It comes as a blockbuster movie about their story is released that could change everything you thought you knew about Benghazi. And directly impact the 2016 race for the White House.

Welcome to "The Kelly File," everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. This past weekend paramount pictures released "13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi." It tells the minute by minute account of the men who risked everything to save their fellow Americans from terrorists. Eleven years to the day after 9/11. And it happened in the shadow of the 2012 presidential election. When it was all over, four Americans had lost their lives. But if not for the men who say they defied direct orders to stand down and not help, even more could have died. Here is an exclusive clip new from the just released film.






UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's going to be a peaceful night.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We need more information than that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We got you. How many?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Twenty to 40 attackers, separated in several positions.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Listen up. None of you have to go. We are the only hope they have. Two vehicles ready, let's go, move, move.


KELLY: Tonight, you will hear directly from three of the real-life American heroes who say this story is not about politics, it's about the truth of what really happened on the ground in Benghazi, Libya. It's about a band of brothers willing to die so that their fellow Americans might live. Our exclusive sit-down with them is moments away.

But we begin tonight with Trace Gallagher reporting from Los Angeles on what those seeing the film now are saying about this extraordinary picture.

TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Megyn, the film is based on the bestselling book "13 Hours: The Inside Account of What Really Happened in Benghazi," co-written by security contractors, who on 9/11, 2012, were in Benghazi at the CIA station called The Annex. After John Krasinski plays Jack, a member of the six men global response team in-charge of defending The Annex, his real identity is still a mystery. In the controversial book and movie, the team says they were told to stand down three different times on the night of the attack. An order that they blame for the death of all four Americans killed that night.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I can't do that.



GALLAGHER: Call it the power of the motion picture, but experts say in the next few weeks the public will learn more about Benghazi from this movie than they have in the past three plus years of Congressional hearings. And news reporting.


GALLAGHER: Anything from the movie surprise you, did you learn any new details that all watching this?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I had no idea that so much took place at The Annex, and what they had to fend off there was just incredible.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It didn't look like where they were was very safe, and you know, they should have had more support.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My stomach is still churning when you actually see it. I mean, to see what our men and women go through it.

GALLAGHER: As you watched the movie, did you think there could be political ramifications, that this could affect Hillary Clinton?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Absolutely, because she was the secretary of state. Right? She should have been on the phone. There should have been some communication with them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think there's a lot of answering to be done.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This coming back after it has been pretty much swept under the rug. It's going to have a major impact on the election and on her future as a politician.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It certainly would impact my vote going forward.


GALLAGHER: It's key to point out the team's station chief tells "The Washington Post" the stand down order is fiction and the film is flat-out wrong. The CIA goes further calling the movie, quote, "shameful" and a "distortion of the events and people who served in Benghazi that night" -- Megyn.

KELLY: Before we get to our exclusive interview, we want to give you a little more background on the men you're about to meet on what motivated them and then why they decided to tell their story. Take a look at this.


KRIS PARONTO, AS TANTO: My name is Christian Paronto, and my call sign is Tonto. And I was with the Second Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment. I was in Bravo Company.

JOHN TIEGEN, AS TIG: My name is John Tiegen I'm john, a former marine. Did four years with the Third Battalion, 7th Marines.

MARK GEIST, AS OZ: My name is Mark Geist, my call sign is Oz. I was in the Marine Corps for 12 years. I was in Benghazi for about 30 days.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everybody, this is Jack Silva.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's our third contract together so we know it's a drill.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We had DB, former marine, Jack, he was a SEAL, Roan, he was a SEAL. So, it was a good crew. "13 Hours" just tells the minute by minute story of what happened that night, try to get what we all did and what we all went through.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We had a team decided the story that wasn't being told out there was what actually happened that night. And so we felt compelled to make sure the story gets out there the right way. It's not about the politics. It's the story of what happened on the ground.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: GRS stands for Global Response Services.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are maybe used in high threat areas.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are the security element for the Central Intelligence Agency, and we just pro-feed protection in austere environments.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stay. We're coming in.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is Chris inside? Is he still inside?



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All of us were former military. Special-ops guys from the Marines, you're working with some of the top guys in their respective services.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "13 Hours" was how long we were in the fight that night.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The state guys, we just heard them on the radio say hey, if you guys don't get over here we're all going to die. And we just kind of let that -- we've got to go now.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: None of you have to go.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But we are the only hope they have.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Americans help Americans overseas, especially in areas where there wasn't any military support.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We had to go, no matter what. Damn the consequences.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Our director is Michael Bay. He's been very respectful to us, and he's taking it seriously and he's got us involved.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Michael had that vision of what he wants and he's doing it in a way so it's as accurate as possible.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My teammates did so many amazing things, and it's the story of the battle, the story of a lot of sacrifice that went on. It showed that there's still guys out there that are willing to sacrifice their lives for others, you know, to put others before themselves.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Very good. Got it. Beautiful.



KELLY: Joining me now, three of the heroes who saved dozens of Americans that night. Mark Geist, known as Oz. Chris Paronto who goes by Tonto, and John Tiegen, also known as Tig. Thank you all so much for being here.

Tonto, let me start with you.


KELLY: How true to life is the film?

PARONTO: Example when I walked out of the theater, I felt just drained. Like there was a big hole inside me. And it was because I really virtually went back to Benghazi when I was watching it. And I missed, missed it so much that it was a part of me that I relived on the screen and I realized how much I've been missing it over the last two years.

KELLY: Missed it.

PARONTO: I do. I missed --

KELLY: What do you mean? The film depicts absolute hell.

PARONTO: It's not. It's amazing being with your brothers and fighting with them. Being there and being with them and having the faith that you're going to defeat all the obstacles. It's just -- I relive it. I usually don't get like this. So, no, it just brought home a lot of the truths that we went through. And a lot of the -- a lot of the -- like I said the brotherhood is the best way I can explain it. So, yes, I miss it immensely. I sacrificed a lot to get to this point. And one, it's a job that I really, really love. Yes, I would go back there in a heartbeat.

KELLY: The movie and the book takes the viewer and reader through the story of Benghazi. So, our viewers are up to speed. It starts off at the diplomatic outpost, the so-called consulate where the Ambassador Chris Stevens was, and the attack on that compound that was not caused by a video. Where RPGs and mortars and so on are set off and Ambassador Stevens dies due to smoke inhalation along with Sean Smith. These guys in the meantime are off at the CIA annex, another post, it's a mile, less than a mile away, chomping a bit saying, send us, send us. You can hear the distress calls. You can hear the radio calls of the State Department personnel saying, we're going to die, we're going to die, we're going to die. The CIA station chief where you were at the time told you repeatedly, according to the movie, stand down. We saw that in the trailer. Used the words "stand down." Is that how you remember it?

JOHN TIEGEN, AS TIG: Yes. I mean, there was the chief of the base, chief, and our team leader sitting on the front porch and told me to stand down.

KELLY: Ultimately the movie depicts you guys saying, we're going. And Tyrone Woods specifically saying, and that quoted in the movie, saying to all of you, we -- it's up to you. But we're the only hope they have.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Losing initiative.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you do not get here soon, we are all going to die.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: None of you have to go. But we are the only help they have.

KELLY: Did that really happen?

PARONTO: That did happen. And the radio call from Alec Henderson coming across saying, hey, if you guys don't get here, we're all going to bleeping die, that's word for word, that's what actually spurned us after -- and I know there's been conflicts about being the calls at 9:42. I still remember on my watch it being 9:32 when we were first called. But after 30 minutes of waiting and Scott comes -- I mean, Alec comes across, he says if you don't get here, we're all going to f-ing die. We bucked orders and we left.

KELLY: You all have testified to this and the trailer that we just watched captures it, too, with the writing on the screen. There was no support. If there's one theme that emerges, that is it, that they were left alone. There was no one to back you up. Throughout the film, you see heroes assuming, understanding based on their experience that the American military will be there to back them up and support them. And help never came. I mean --

TIEGEN: I mean, for us, for the military to come and support us, the agencies, we wouldn't have expected it. But the fact that they had a U.S. ambassador that had been missing for about five hours before they actually officially -- he was considered dead and they didn't send anything or attempt to push anything that way is pretty crazy. I mean, I would never expect them just to leave the ambassador out there.

KELLY: What did you expect would come? What did you think would show up? Who or what?


KELLY: Up next, the answer to that question, and whether or not the men believe that those who died would be alive today if they had gotten the support they need. We'll be back with that and more of the story behind those "13 Hours" in just moments.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Move over for inspection.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Sorry, sir, can't do that.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You see the drone?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because the drone sees you. It sees your face. We know who you are. Anything happens to us, your home, your family, gone. Give the order to let us go.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you ready to die for your country?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm ready to go right here, right now.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are we expecting any friendlies?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let them come. Let them come.


ERWIN STOFF, FILM PRODUCER: Really very similar qualities as Mark. He has tremendous strength and is just a real guy's guy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Lock this base down. You, you, let's go. Come on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mark's been such a tremendous asset to me as an actor and given me so much information. Specifics in terms of what happened on the night of the attack, but also just emotionally what he was going through.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I start coming back after shooting. Your adrenaline is running, you don't feel the pain, because you're just worried about making sure that you take care of the business that you've got to take care of.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're going to unleash hay on these guys.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's an emotional connection that you get having looked in the guy's eyes and heard the accounts directly from them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stay, we're coming in. Is he still inside?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And so you take on the huge responsibility to make sure that the story is done right.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm on the roof. Don't leave me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have 36 American lives to save.


KELLY: That was a primetime exclusive clip from behind the scenes of the movie "13 Hours: The Secret Soldiers of Benghazi." But as these three heroes discussed why they risked life and limb to save their fellow Americans in Libya, they also discussed the assistance they expected from their government that never came. And why they think four Americans paid the ultimate price.


KELLY: What did you expect would come? What did you think would show up? Who or what?

PARONTO: PARONTO: The biggest thing I think we really need was mainly air support. I mean, kind of --

GEIST: Just something to fly over.

KELLY: How hard would that have been?

TIEGEN: Not hard. Again people see the movie and read the book, know that it wouldn't have been difficult.

KELLY: And all we sent was an unmanned drone. So, we had eyes on the situation and our president had been briefed on it at least six hours prior to the annex coming under severe attack and all we sent was an unmanned drone.

PARONTO: And it wasn't helpful at all. It was -- the feet that was given to us was --

TIEGEN: It made good movie footage.

PARONTO: Yes. About 30 seconds behind what we're actually seeing on the ground.

KELLY: When you see, I mean, you know, for us it's a new story and thanks to Paramount Pictures it's been made into a dramatic, compelling, white knuckled experience. And I tell the viewers out there right now, don't plan on getting popcorn, don't plan on needing to use the restroom, because you will not leave your seat for two hours. No one spoke a word. No one looked to the left or the right. Your eyes are glued on that screen. So to the audience, that's how it is. But to you guys having lost Tyrone and Glenn, when you look back and you think about Benghazi, what does it mean? Why did they die, Oz?

GEIST: They died serving their country, I mean, doing what we love to do. I mean, that's serving other people. That's kind of our whole makeup. I mean, you know, it's just like why would you go, you know, why do we run to gunfire? It's because that's who we are. That's how we were made from the get-go. You know, there's a lot of great guys out there that are still doing this, both what we were doing in the military, and that's just the way the makeup is. You know, that's the core of what Ty was and Glenn were.

KELLY: But I want to go back, because one of the things that gets lost I think in the coverage of Benghazi too is the loss of our ambassador who was portrayed in the film as a good man, who was just trying to do the right thing, who had begged for security increases there, and was denied, was denied those security increases. And they had in fact been diminished repeatedly leading up to September 11th. And that's another thing that the investigators have found, which was, he had no business being in Benghazi on 9/11. The administration should not have allowed it, and if they're going to send him, they should have sent him with proper security. But he was skilled that night, and you went -- you went to the consulate the very facility which he was killed. You kept running in to try to get him, right?

TIEGEN: Multiple times.

KELLY: And the smoke was too much. Describe that moment when you knew he was in there, you didn't yet know whether he was dead.

TIEGEN: Umm, you know, it could have really -- I mean, I was on my belly the last time I went in before we got counterassaulted on the consulate and the smoke was still down there, and you still -- could only see about maybe two feet in front of your face. And, you know, it was just so thick and so hot, it was just like being in a brick oven. I mean, you're just sweating constantly and it was extreme heat, and just coughing, because you just can't really hold your breath because one of your adrenaline is pumping and you know, you've been running around for the last hour, you know, fighting your way on and searching and so I mean, it was pretty intense.

KELLY: You believe that if you had been allowed to go when you first said send us and the radio calls came in from the consulate saying help us, help us, help us, do you believe there would have been any chance to save them?

GEIST: Oh, yes, they would be alive today, 100 percent.

KELLY: The Congressional investigators concluded there was no stand down order.

PARONTO: I don't know where they got that.

TIEGEN: Well, it's because I couldn't read his lips from the drone.

PARONTO: Yes. That's just silly. I mean, there was, for us --

KELLY: I mean, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and others rely on those conclusions saying, you know, they've really been cleared because investigators concluded there was no stand down order.

TIEGEN: It's kind of funny, everything that we testified to, you know, they agreed with us 100 percent, I mean, pretty much from eating a candy bar to, you know, shooting all our ammo, but for some reason they don't want to believe us that we were told to stand down.

KELLY: Do you have a political motive?


KELLY: Up next, the answer to that question. Plus, you will hear from the families of those who died in Benghazi and we'll bring you more of our exclusive behind the scenes clips of this powerful film.


STOFF: The GRS stands for Global Response Staff. These are individuals that all have special services backgrounds.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Base under attack. Let's go, man. Base under attack.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, this was an extraordinary GRS team.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: None of you have to go.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are the only hope they have.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You have ex-Navy SEALs, marines and you've got army ranger, and Tonto.

PARONTO: My name was Christian Paronto. And my call sign was Tonto.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tonto was one of a kind. He was ready for anything. You know, he signs his e-mails RLTW, Rangers Lead The Way and that's how Tonto lives his life.



KELLY WRIGHT, FOX NEWS REPORTER: Live from America's News Headquarters, I'm Kelly Wright. Here's what's happening. Iraqi security forces searching a Baghdad neighborhood where three Americans were kidnapped over the weekend. The troops closing streets and conducting house-to-house searches. The Americans were kidnapped from the home of their interpreter. It's not clear what they were doing in Iraq.

The U.S. slapping new economic sanctions on Iran over recent missile tests. Officials say the tests violated a United Nations resolution. This is a setback after other sanctions were lifted last year following a land mark nuclear deal.

And Eagles get -- and co-founder Glenn Frey has died. The band says, he was suffering from multiple ailments. The Eagles was formed in the early 1970s and became known for hits like "Hotel California" and "Take it Easy." That's the news this hour.

I'm Kelly Wright, now back to THE KELLY FILE.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're coming in.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're under heavy fire.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Chief. Are we expecting any friendlies?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I am not aware of any friendlies.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Let them come. Let them come.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I haven't thought about my family once tonight. Thinking about them now. Up here in the middle of all this. I'm thinking about my girls, man. Every time I go home to Becky and those girls, I think, this is it. I'm going to stay.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shoot that son of a bitch.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Unless somethings and I end up back here.


KELLY: Well, they may be the most controversial questions to come out of the Benghazi attacks. Could American lives have been saved there? And why did the White House initially blame a video when it knew that this was a terrorist attack? Those questions prompted multiple Congressional investigations. Investigations that contradict some of what these heroes have said.

But these men not only maintain they could have said. But these men not maintain they could have saved lives that night, but add that the politics that others resorted to on this issue when they got home is exactly what prompted them to go public.


KELLY: Do you have a political motive?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The one that should have got the star was sitting right there because he saved...


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... Tyrone's life by going in the building and finding in the way when he was lost. And then he is the first one that come up on the roof and put two tourniquets on Dave Rubin and got a tourniquet on my arm, and probably saved both of our lives.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And had to see him naked once. That's the honor right there.

KELLY: That's they joke. That when the audience sees this film and sees what you all went through and you ask what happened to your arm, which was basically hanging off and it was...


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And come back right here down.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That was pretty impressive seeing him trying to get it -- I remember watching and seeing him trying to get his gun up and his arm is hanging and he's still trying to shoot. I was -- I don't say get it much because I don't want to give any marine anymore kudos than they get, but I'll be honest, I was pretty impressed seeing that after the bombs -- after the mortars hit and seeing him still thinking about...


KELLY: And when he went down to get help, it wasn't for himself. It was for the gentleman you just referenced who had also been hit. And So, Oz walks in down below to where the CIA agents are to say there's another guy, his arm is dangling. And he says, there's somebody who is hurt and needs help. And you refused to go on to the air, under that airplane that ultimately got you guys out of there on a gurney.


KELLY: Why, tell them what you said and why you said it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I just walked into that country; I'm going to walk out. I mean, it's just, again, it's who I am. I'm not going to -- I mean, I don't know, it's just, I just felt compelled to. I'm not going to let that -- I'm not going to lose.

KELLY: You're covered in blood. Your arm would later require 13 surgeries just to save it.


KELLY: And the looks on the flight attendant's faces, I mean, in the movie, they're shocked.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was actually -- I mean, I look back at it, it was kind of comical. Because as I'm walking up, there was -- the flight attendant's eyes were as big, I mean, as saucers, her eyes were. You know, I'm pretty much buck naked, blood dripping, and she just disappears into the back of the airport -- or the aircraft and I thought she was, you know, going back to get something to help us.

But when she comes back up, she's laying towels down because she's afraid I'm going to bleed on her boss' airplane.

KELLY: You come back, the video, it was all about a video. And we heard the family say that's how we kicked off the segment that Hillary Clinton, according to the family members, looked at them, at Dover Air Force Base when the bodies came back in the casket and said we're going to get the guys who made that video.

And now when asked who's lying, you or the families, she says, well, it's not me. Of course, she's talking about Glenn family. She's talking about Tyrone's family, she's talking about Shawn's family.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You know, I know Pat Smith, I know Katie Quigley, Gwen's sister. I know, you know, we know Ty's mom. We know what they told us was said. And I do know them very well. Katie was very -- Katie has been on news quite a bit telling you what she was told. And I know that they were told it was a video because that's what they told me. And I believe Pat, I believe Katie, I believe Charles would.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And it's easy. I mean, who would have a reason to lie, why? Their blood want just that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It that simple.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Exactly. They have no reason to tell anything but the truth.


KELLY: The new fight over the truth of what happened that night is next, along with more of our exclusive reporting on the story behind the scenes.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I hate to be a wet blanket, girls, but five dudes with M-4s is not enough. Perimeter saw from this whole compound of sniper's paradise.

PABLO SCHREIBER, ACTOR: We had a lot of conversations about what his service was like and then what the, you know, the experiences of that night. And the effect they had on him and the effect that they still have on him today.

Who's in the admission of chief? Come on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you do not get here soon, we're all going to die.




UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's an awesome opportunity to actually have the real guys here. Just talking to Tig, it was cool because he was saying stuff that you only hear and learn about by actually being there.

JOHN KRASINSKI, ACTOR: Dominick comes to play Tig. Dom was very committed to getting to know everything he could about Tig and they really had a fantastic bond.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: There's little things I've tried to do to capture Tig, sort of some of the physicality that I've picked on learning how to move, learning how to do close quarters combat. Hopefully I'm catching the essence of him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Dominic he has the same attitude as me. And, you know, he asking, you know, a little bit about how I felt, you know, when stuff was going on during that night.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's been invaluable having to hear what he went through and how he performed under pressure like that. I can't imagine.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Over here, these people are moving to try to get as close to the wall, just like something out of the apocalypse.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Chief, are we expecting any friendlies.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm not aware of any friendlies.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We really owe it to these guys to get it right and to tell it in a way that shows just how extraordinary they were and what they did that night.


KELLY: The 13 Hours that unfolded in Libya more than three years ago, has produced thousands of questions. A number of which are part of the ongoing investigation by the Benghazi Select Committee in Washington.

But leading democrats and a lot if there is media supporters like to say the questions have all been answered and this story is over.

In fact, after we ransom of tonight's exclusive interview two weeks ago, Erik Wemple of The Washington Post attacked the Kelly File and Fox News suggesting we were trying to promote the account of these men on the grounds that it matched our own reporting.

Unlike Fox News, few media outlets are doing any reporting on the glaring dispute between some of the families of the dead and Secretary Hillary Clinton.

They say from the moment she first met them, next to the flag-draped coffins of their loved ones, she blamed this attack on a protest and a video, knowing that the video had nothing to do with this. She has now suggested that they are lying, not one of those relatives has wavered in their story, however.


KATE QUIGLEY, SISTER OF BENGHAZI VICTIM GLEN DOHERTY: It shows me a lot about her character, that she would choose in that moment to basically perpetuate what she knew was untrue.

PATRICIA SMITH, MOTHER OF BENGHAZI VICTIM SEAN SMITH: Hillary's a liar! I know what she told me.

CHARLES WOODS, FATHER OF BENGHAZI VICTIM TYRONE WOODS: I wrote down, I gave Hillary a hug and shook her head, and she said, "We are going to have the filmmaker arrested who was responsible for the death of your son."


KELLY: Ed Henry reports now from Washington. Ed?

ED HENRY, CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Megyn, out here on the campaign trail in states like New Hampshire, this cuts right to the heart of why Hillary Clinton is struggling on the question of whether she's honest. Within days of the Benghazi attacks, she and President Obama went to Andrews Air Force Base to speak with the families of the four victims who were killed in Benghazi.

Some on the family members as you noted, have said that Clinton directly told them that the attacks were inspired by a video. And in fact, Charles Woods, whose son Ty, of course was killed in Benghazi, said he wrote down in his notebook verbatim as Clinton spoke.

And that she said in part, "We are going to have the filmmaker arrested who was responsible for the death of your son." First of all, that's different from what Clinton told her daughter Chelsea, and some diplomats about what was behind these attacks and whether or not these were terror attacks and it became a flashpoint at that Benghazi hearing back in October. Watch.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Within 24 hours, you had a conversation with the Egyptian Prime Minister. You told him this. "We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest."

HILLARY CLINTON, (D) U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, Congressman, there was a lot of conflicting information that we were trying to make sense of.


HENRY: Now the plot thickens. Recently, on two occasions, Hillary Clinton has suggested that the family members are simply not remembering exactly what happened at Andrews Air Force Base. The first time was when she did an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos.


GEORGE STEPHANOPOLOUS, ABC NEWS ANCHOR: Did you tell them it was a film and when she response?

CLINTON: No. I said very clearly. There had been a terrorist group that had taken responsibility on Facebook. This was a fast-moving series of events in the fugue of war.


HENRY: Then Clinton did an editorial meeting with a rural newspaper here in New Hampshire. She was pressed on what happened. She said maybe some family members have simply forgotten or mixed it up because of the raw emotions. Then she was pressed by a columnist for the newspaper who said, somebody is lying here, who is it? Clinton said "not me." Megyn?

KELLY: Joining us now, Fox News Digital Politics editor, Chris Stirewalt and host of Media Buzz right here on FNC, Howie Kurtz. Good to see you both tonight.

So, Wemple of The Washington Post seems to have an issue. We did that interview with those three heroes and the feedback we received from the viewers was extraordinary. They wanted to hear more. They wanted to know how they could help these guys. They couldn't wait to see the movie.

Wemple has a different reaction, which is what do we learn that was new? I've got news for you, Erik Wemple, you go and you sit through 13 Hours, you sit there, wait knucked when you can't move at the end of it and a tear comes to your eye, unless you're not human. And you tell me whether this is going to have no impact on the story of Benghazi, which is relevant in this 2016 presidential campaign, Chris.

CHRIS STIREWALT, FOX NEWS DIGITAL POLITICS EDITOR: Well, there is a pepper jelly for him. And look, the power of this movie is not that it is fact- finding. The power of this movie is not that it uncovers something that has not been uncovered before.

As you say, it corroborates evidence that was in the book, on which it was based. It corroborates reporting that the team in Fox News did and all of that stuff. The point of this is, the audience for this compared to say, well, I don't know, the audience for a mid-day congressional hearing.

Lots of people who are not politically obsessed, lots of people who are not obsessed with foreign policy, who are decent people and have real lives are going to see this movie and now they are to have a predicate for this discussion when it comes in to 2016.

KELLY: You know, Howie, the Fox News Channel, has -- I'm very proud of the reporting that we have done on the Benghazi. I mean, I was on the air when Catherine Herridge in the afternoon when she broke the news that there were no protests outside of that consulate, which the administration have been telling us there were.

And by the way, they pushed back on her and said she was wrong and she stuck by her reporting and she was right. I was on the air when Fox News said that the White House had meddled in those talking points, which they denied on The Record. And ultimately, we were proven right on that as well.

So, Fox News has done some yeoman's work in reporting on Benghazi. But it's not about Fox News, Wemple got it wrong. It's about the story that these guys are telling and to suggest that seeing it on the big screen in a picture like this, directed by Michael Bay, is going to have zero impact and is not worthy of any attention, entirely misses the dynamic at play.

HOWIE KURTZ, MEDIA BUZZ SHOW HOST: Entirely misses the point. Because a dramatic movie like this, based on a book that, by the way, this Washington Post columnist said was very good, has the power to bring to life the account of these men who were there and who are passionate about what went wrong.

That's why it will have an impact, not because of some Fox News segments. So, we can debate about whether Fox News has covered it too much. Certainly, you are right. Much of the mainstream media have decided this is old news that it's incremental and people no longer care and that any new developments are incremental. That is one view. But I don't think this issue can possibly go away completely for Hillary Clinton in this 2016 campaign.

KELLY: We wouldn't even know -- we would know how -- we wouldn't have seen Hillary Clinton's e-mails to the Egyptian Prime Minister, we wouldn't have seen her e-mails to her daughter which directly contradict the story she told the Benghazi victims if it hadn't been for the pushing that the media has done in this issue, in particular Fox News.

But it's not about Fox News, Chris, it's about the families and the media's desperate desire to move on. Take the issue between Hillary and the families. How -- did you see that blown up on the cover of all the magazines and all the newspapers, the fact that Hillary essentially suggested that the family members of the dead are lying and the family members have never wavered.

As those three heroes just told me, who has reason to lie? Who? The family members? Why would they make it up? Charles Woods has contemporaneous notes of his encounter with Hillary moments after he had it.

STIREWALT: I think the main threats of this hits at the beating heart of this is a concern for Hillary Clinton, which is this. It is unthinkable to most Americans that we would not try, hat we would not try to at least rescue that doomed garrison.

So, then you compound it and you say, well, yes, and then the talking points got doctored, so it left a different impression with people in an election year. People say, well, that's seems like you're dishonoring. It's a dishonoring. And then you have Hillary Clinton who says, those poor people they must be mistaken. They must have misremembered.

And it is an implicit argument that those people are trying to hurt her politically. And I promise you this, this movie having been out with whomever the republican nominate for president calls Hillary Clinton out on this and stands on the debate stage with add points at her and says, I'm here on behalf of those families and I want to say to you what they told me, which is they're no liars, that's going to be a powerful moment in this election.

KURTZ: And here's the thing. The story has been going on, it's a story of some complexity. And so, I think after a while perhaps when people who watched television there has a numbing effect. What this film does and the accounts of these heroic men is that it brings in the human dimension that becomes impossible to ignore and that we can't sometimes always get out in daily journalism.

KELLY: It's gripping and it's important, and these guys are important. And are American heroes in the truest sense. Great to see you both.

STIREWALT: Thanks, Megyn.

KURTZ: You bet.

KELLY: At the end of the day, this story is about the men who gave their lives for our country, brave men. We should never forget.

Up next, what the heroes of Benghazi have done to honor the fallen.


KELLY: The heroes of Benghazi have stressed that the one of the real tragedies here in their view is that the loss of four Americans seems to have been overshadowed by politics.

Knowing these men, as we do now, that selflessness is not surprising. But one of these heroes is taking things a step further; making it his mission now to provide for fellow private American contractors once the battle is over. Trace Gallagher has that.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We welcome home for the final time Ambassador Chris Stevens, Mr. Sean Smith, Mr. Glen Doherty, and Mr. Tyrone Woods.


TRACE GALLAGHER, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: The four men killed in the 2012 Benghazi attacks came from different backgrounds, followed different paths but shared a common trait, a fierce commitment to their country and their mission.

U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens is described by friends and colleagues as a consummate professional known for his determination to learn and live the culture of the Arab world. His dedication endeared him to local residents and endowed him an impressive and essential list of context.


BARACK OBAMA, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PRESIDENT: He was known for walking the streets in the cities where he worked, tasting the local food, meeting as many people as he could.


GALLAGHER: Intel Officer Sean Smith, the son of a Vietnam vet became a tech expert, well-known in the online gaming universe, the 34-year-old's death devastated his wife and two children and left his mother haunted by the unknown.


SMITH: I want to know what happened, why my son is dead, who ordered that, and I don't want it to happen again to other people.


GALLAGHER: Former Navy SEALS-turned private contractors Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were both known as fearless kids and heroic adults. Woods left behind four children; Doherty left family and friends who will always remember his unending loyalty.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They gave the ultimate sacrifice to the fight. They died with honor and fulfill the in-state that they side. Save those American lives and no one gets left behind.


GALLAGHER: No one gets left behind isn't a slogan, it's a promise that ultimately led Mark Geist, who was wounded in the attack, to create shadow warriors, a group designed to support private military contractors upon their return home.

That help includes assistance with medical bills, PTSD treatments and other therapies. Shadow warriors ultimate goal, to, quote, "Inspire hope by offering assistance to these warriors and their families who have walked through fire but continue to move forward." Megyn.

KELLY: We'll be right back.


KELLY: Lots of viewers are wanting to do something for the Benghazi heroes we spoke to.

As Trace reported, Oz started the Shadow Warriors project. It supports wounded American private contractors like these guys with their medical bills and other needs. And they could sure use your support.

Thank you for watching, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. This is "The Kelly File."

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