Goodlatte: Calif. shooter's visa was 'sloppily approved'

House Judiciary Committee drafting a bill to reform visa security process; Congressman speaks out on 'Your World'


This is a rush transcript from "Your World," December 29, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

NEIL CAVUTO, HOST: All right, there's a lot of people that Tashfeen Malik fooled, part of that duo that was behind all those shootings a few weeks back in San Bernardino, California.

But what was the biggest thing that we learned is that she fooled people on both sides of the world, security experts here and just visa experts back in Pakistan.

This next guest should know. He's seen the files, all of the files.

On the phone with us right now, House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte, of course, in the fine state of Virginia.

I know there's so much you can share, Chairman, so let's cut to the info that you can, because you have it on record that she was not exactly being consistently honest. Explain.

REP. BOB GOODLATTE, R-VA.: Well, we don't know that she was being consistently honest. And we also don't know that the consular officer who was conducting the interview of her got all the information that was requested of her before they then inexplicably went ahead and approved the visa for her to come to the United States.


CAVUTO: Who approved that though, Chairman? When that happened, there were a lot of holes discovered in that visa application.


CAVUTO: But who was the first to not see those holes?

GOODLATTE: Well, there's a person in the consular office in Saudi Arabia, where she applied for this K-1 -- actually in Pakistan, where she applied for this K-1 visa.

And one of the requirements was that you have to prove for a fiancee visa that you actually have met the person that you're intending to go to the United States to get married to. And there's very little evidence in this file that they had.

There's an affidavit from the husband-to-be, and there is also a request in the file for a translation of their passport stamp to show they were even in Saudi Arabia at the same time. And the information in the file does not allow them to exclude that, because, first of all, they didn't get the translation that they requested. They should not have approved the application until they got the translation.

When they got the -- when we got the document with the file, we had a translator come in to translate it, and you cannot determine it from the translation the date that she departed Saudi Arabia. In fact, she was admitted for only 60 days. She arrived on June 4.

The allegation is they met when he was in Saudi Arabia between October 1 and October 20, but she was supposed to leave by August 4. So either she overstayed her visa, which should have raised questions right there, or they never met.

CAVUTO: All right, let's assume the latter isn't the case, you hope, right? But the former then raises questions about the reliability and potential culpability of Pakistan, right?

GOODLATTE: Well, absolutely.

It also raises questions about how this woman, who the FBI says was radicalized prior to this immigration process even beginning, went through three interviews before these attacks took place, and in none of the interviews did they ascertain this radicalized mind-set on her part.

So we need to be looking at what more needs to be done to ask the right questions and to do more background information before someone is admitted.

CAVUTO: Scary stuff.

Chairman, thank you very much.

GOODLATTE: Thanks, Neil.

CAVUTO: All right.

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