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Time for media companies to join terror fight?

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FBI Director Says ISIS IS Using Encrypted Messages

Suzy Welch: I hate that there could be a law about this. I hate it. The social media companies should be doing this voluntarily for two reasons. One if there's a law passed that's like telling drivers that there's a speed trap and going to be 15 cops waiting for you. Why tell the terrorists that the media and companies are obligated to report them. They work hard to find ways to communicate. Secondly and more importantly they should be doing this voluntarily because we're at war. It's good versus evil. They should be compelled to help the good guys win. It's the good guys that allow the opinions and the social media companies to assist in the first place.

Gary B. Smith: I have to disagree with Susie on this. It's impractical as you point out. On Twitter there are 500 million tweets a day and people up load 163,000 photos per second. I mean it's just unreal. The other part is that we ding the government for not going to a bottom line. There's no profit. That's why cannot build the profit and highways on time if budget. Flip it around. It's the same thing with the companies. If you're the person working at twitter and in charge of the fonts, are you going to say that we're going to take an hour a day and work on the terrorism? No, when it comes to the performance review, someone is going to say that you did not do the job as well as you could have. People and companies go to the bottom line and what pays them to promote them. Unless we're taking over the industries like we did in World War II, this is going to fall flat on the face.

Jonas Max Ferris: Yeah, it's fake and thrown together to make it look like they're doing things. I am not in the concept of a crime of playing roles in any crime stopping. If you walk into a private bank that’s not owned by the government, there's a lot of cash and they're under instructions to take the Social Security and run who you are and watch who you work. There's a will of the government and maybe you're funding the terrorism. That's a very deliverable from the bank. They're like yay, if someone looks sketch and let us know. What is a terrorist? Given this vague goal for Google to figure out and they would get in trouble if they did not do it. It's not going with the deliverable of the terrorism and therefore it can lay to the problem. They do not want to get in involved because they might get in trouble.

Chuck Rocha: Well, it's a sticky thing. I am conflicted. I am a self-proclaimed redneck and hippy liberal. You have the redneck side of me saying I want to know where the terrorist are. It's your patriotic duty to make sure that we destroy everybody that's going to do anything to hurt our country. I have an elbow for them if you show them to me. Then you have the hippy liberal side of me saying who is determining who is a terrorist and not a terrorists? Aren't we supposed to have the free speech, so at the end of the day I go to the redneck side. I think that it's the duty to do this. They're somewhat of a presence. Cannot do anything that you want on the Internet. If someone putting something on the Internet, they get prosecute and go to jail.

John Layfield: Well, I think there's a limit on how many adjectives you use to describe yourself. I love chuck and he is a smart man. He is right about saying it your patriotic duty. It's being done with child porn. Microsoft said that there's not a way for it to be done. They found a way to find child porn. Isis was hacked by anonymous. Susie talks about that we're at war here. If we're at war, let's declare it on ISIS. The United Nations declare war, and it's very cut and dry. Once you get past them, how do you define a terrorists? One person's terrorists can be another person's freedom fighter. Remember the '40s and '50s. That's a slippery slope. Congress is doing what they do best. They're lazy and trying to pass this off on social media companies and that's not their job to do unless you declare war and it's a matter of aiding or do include want to help.

New Calls to Keep Sanctions on Iran in Place as It Test-Fires Another Missile

John Layfield: Yes, we don’t have a deal. I don't know why people are -- I don't know why it's not wide spread news. I went on the Internet before the show and I looked up the state department's letter and on November 19th. Look at it up. Iran has not signed a deal. The state department admits that it's not a signed deal or legally binding deal. They came out and said why would I sign the deal and bind them to do anything. So there's no deal here. This is insane. John Kerry was out negotiated from go to whoa and now you have a political commitment. It took decades to get them in place. You will never get them back in place. This is a horrible, horrible deal that by the way was never signed.

Suzy Welch: This as an American, I am so embarrassed about this. This is painful to think about and the sanctions were working. We almost had it where we needed it. The bottom line is that negotiations requirements and the party involved putting apart the agenda and being upstanding and abiding by the terms of the agreement and Iran does none of those. Sometimes you have to say the truth. They're wicked to use the word and seeks the death and then the deal although they're saying is that the deal should be ripped up its just null and void.

Jonas Max Ferris: Yeah, I am not a fan of Iran, but look at North Korea this week we have more sanctions on them than anybody. They are bragging about the hydrogen bomb they claim to have. The point and Pakistan has the bombs and Russia announced that its going to radically increase it nuclear program. The point is that what we think it does and what it does in practice is two things. It's not a great country, but they don't want to have nuclear weapons. That's not what we want in Iran. When you do them, the country goes for the leader. They do not turn on them. The Russians are not for what is going on. They feel defensive because we're maybe the great state that Iran says. I think it does not work and even though that it seems good and they're being bad, it just does not achieve the direction that we want and there's a lot of examples for that being the case.

Gary B. Smith: Yes, I hear what he is saying. Sometimes the sanctions do work, but look what happened with Iran. We crippled them and oil plummeted, inflation was ramped and unemployment skyrocketed. We bring it to a more moderate led leader if you can look at that. What do we do? We let them walk without signing anything. We need to go back and we knew what was working. We have to go in there and forcefully dismantle what they have. I don't think that anybody wants to step up to that. Short of that it's economic sanctions.

Chuck Rocha: There were talks of whether it was signed or not. There was a coup of countries that sat down and did that. The United States cannot be the world police and the missiles that they're shooting off can reach a country and the world has a problem here. The world needs to solve it. My tax dollars in the U.S. cannot do this alone. We have to come together when they were right or wrong, these people are crazy and can shoot a missile that can hit France or Germany. You have to do them together is that people with no self-conscience cannot do something and destroy all of us.

Protesters Block Streets in Chicago Around Shopping District

Gary B. Smith: Absolutely we went a far left and the ACLU site. I wanted to see and you can congregate in public places and you can yell the police are horrible. What cannot do is disrupt the traffic.  You cannot impede the business. You get fined for that.

Chuck Rocha: You will not get noticed and sure some business is going to suffer, but that's for a small moment in time. They do this to bring the life to whatever they're protesting. There's a protocol of what you're supposed to do and not do. I have been to many of them and there's the constitutional right to get together and to disrupt what we want to. I think that it's how far that you want to go. Anybody can take anything too far. Let's look at the thing of what is happening there.

Suzy Welch: We're in a war and the terrorist mentioned Chicago as a target. We need to be as civilized city and be the best selves. If that mean that is the mayor has to step aside, then that's what needs to be done.

Jonas Max Ferris: Yeah, it's not the law but the stores are not the ones shooting people. If you have a protest at city hall or police station or public place and make the point. Getting arrested and all half that but if you're protesting for bad food, you don't go into a store that has nothing to do just because that's where people happen to be. That's where you're crossing the line. I think that you're losing the message in the whole thing. They're doing the minimum wage protest.

John Layfield: I think that Dr. King was the great one and I am far from liberal and far from sympathetic to need a voice. I think that they did cross the line once you harm them, you don't know. They may be on your side. That's where I think that you cross the line of business.

Stock Picks

Gary B Smith: Chipotle (CMG) up 30 percent in a year

John Layfield:  (LYB) up 20 percent in a year

Jonas Max Ferris: (XLU) 15 percent gain in a year