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California Shooting Suspects Said to Be Living the 'American Dream'
Charles Payne: I have been saying this for so long. We see it over and over and there was a guy worth $300 million, but it's really more to a certain degree more amazing when they're born in America. They have a pretty good job. Went to college. The guy in the Tennessee shooting, same sort of thing. There's a resentment that you're not born with, but in the house. There's no such thing as self-radicalization. It's amazing. Cannot say someone did not have a job or global warming created terrorism.
Charlie Gasparino: Yeah, I don't know what caused this guy to do what he did. Poverty causes a lot of bad things and people do stupid stuff or stuff that's antisocial when they're and stupid stuff. I understand. I am saying that there's no correlation on evidence that we have in terrorist in poverty or terrorism. Some of them are rich.
Dagen McDowell: To call him an extremist and one when president Obama comes out after the Paris attacks and says that this is an attack on all humans. No, it's not. Isis is a well-organized call to believe that it's a key agent in bringing about the apocalypse. They will do anything members of this cult will go to any extreme. You will have woman going the extremes, and until we acknowledge that and ignore the poverty argument, we cannot get away.
Adam Lashinsky: Well, the puzzling part of this to me is why these well off or relative people do what they do. First of all, this is not new. You think of Castro and these are all rich kids and kids that were radicalized. Just to finish my point, it makes sense that the poverty stricken people are going to be susceptible to arguments and we should pay attention to that.
Sen. Rubio: U.S. Must Counter ISIS Propaganda to Undermine Its Recruitment
Adam Lashinsky: Well, I think that he is making a reasonable point. We have always engaged in propaganda in conflict. Getting the truth out about the evil people will help. It does not have to be government propaganda. The miserable conditions and the cheating and then suffering and so the truth is a powerful weapon agreed.
Dagen McDowell: If you put it out, they're going to use it as a recruitment tool. They use it if ISIS is a video game and helping to bring about the apocalypses.
Charlie Gasparino: My point is that it's much more than propaganda. You have to bomb the you know what out of them. You have to bomb the hard targets and civilians and destroy them.
Charles Payne: Yeah, there's a tool and ironically there was a report that said that we should shut down the propaganda efforts because they suck. If we find out the right bay to do it and you certainly fight fire with fire, and the girl that just went over there -- real beautiful girl that was left and killed. She was a westerner that went over there.
Russia Accuses Turkey of Smuggling ISIS Oil
Charlie Gasparino: Increasingly radicalized country which once was the most modern of the Islamic-dominated countries. Very westernized. Has now become part of the fear that is attracting the rest.
Dagen McDowell: If they are a part of NATO, we are a member. There have to be ties that bond. Vladimir Putin is trying to test that. The cohesion of NATO, to use a phrase. Let me finish this quickly. And Russia, before that fighter jet was shot down violated it again and again. Attacked the Turkmen in Syria. I agree
Adam Lashinsky: We should be careful about ascribing national policy to the behavior of people at a soccer game. There are parts of the country they don't control. It's a messy part of the world. For the second time today I agree with Charles. They are our ally.
Charles Payne: I will say this. Ergogan is struggling. He's trying -- we can no longer rule the world. Forget about the ottoman dreams. We'll try to be as Western as possible. He's facing re assistance. Do you want to go back to that?
Adam: (SPLV) S&P 500