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Carly Fiorina: We have to take our country back

This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," December 3, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Breaking right now, On the Record is monitoring the investigation into the San Bernardino massacre. We are awaiting a news conference from law enforcement. As soon as it starts, we're going to take you right to it.

Growing outrage over the controversial front page of the New York Daily News, The paper mocking the tweets of Republican Presidential candidates, asking for prayers in light of the mass murders in California, now the paper displaying many of the candidates' tweets with giant headline, God isn't fixing this. 

Former CEO of Hewlett Packard and 2016 GOP presidential candidate Carly Fiorina goes On the Record. And welcome to D.C., I know you have been in Iowa, New Hampshire, and every place else. So welcome.

CARLY FIORINA, GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.

VAN SUSTEREN: What do you make of this New York Daily News page?

FIORINA: We have to take our country back. We have to restore the character of our nation. I mean, honestly, this is unbelievable. When you read the article, it goes on to say that the people who pray for our victims and our first responders are part of the problem. It's just outrageous. The same paper said that I was the problem behind the Planned Parenthood shooting, because I have exposed the truth about what Planned Parenthood does. This is what the left wing does. It's outrageous.

VAN SUSTEREN: At the very least, on day one they ought to be looking at the killers.

FIORINA: Hillary Clinton, remember, when she was asked about enemy she is proud of, who was first on her list, Republicans.

VAN SUSTEREN: I thought she was being flip. I actually thought...

FIORINA: They think the enemy conservatives and Republicans who might pray after a terrorist attack.

VAN SUSTEREN: I don't think they were being flip.

(CROSSTALK)

VAN SUSTEREN: I thought the New York Daily News was not being flipped. All right, what would you do? I mean we have had all these shootings, we have had Colorado, and we had many other shootings and Sandy Hook. We had a lot of mass shootings in this country.

FIORINA: Let us begin by enforcing the laws we have. We have a whole list of criminals who are not supposed to own firearms, and we know they do.

(CROSSTALK)

FIORINA: Here we have a situation unclear, but for heaven's sake. They are building bombs in their home. They had been inspected for possible ties to terrorists earlier. It sounds a lot like the Tsarnaev Brothers case, where we actually knew something was wrong, somebody investigated them at some point, but didn't really do anything about it. This is why I think our FBI Director said a couple weeks ago, even before the Paris attacks that the FBI was, "Overwhelmed by the number of possible terrorists already in this country. They couldn't keep up." And, yet, President Obama says that any of us who say that maybe we should be letting more would be terrorists in if we cannot vet refugees, for example, he says we're providing a recruitment tool to the terrorists.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. One other thing that -- circle back on that is I think we have to stop being afraid of being called racist. Apparently, if you see something, you should say something and apparently one woman did see the bomb factory or see something suspicious and didn't say anything, which I can understand. But the problem is we do have to step up and not be afraid if we see something.

FIORINA: This is the cost of people being shouted down because they express an opinion that the left wing doesn't like. People stop talking, and we cannot stop talking, we can't stop speaking the truth. And we can't stop saying something if we see something. But that's the cost, if people demonize the messenger because they don't like the message.

VAN SUSTEREN: If you see someone buying five pressure cookers, say something. All right, you have a new blue print, your first year in office, and you have got a whole list you're going to do. What's top of the list?

FIORINA: I have laid out six things that I think are vital to get done early on in the first term of my administration, to take our country back. It involves defeating ISIS, and leading once again in the world. It involves restoring the character of our nation by standing for life and religious liberty. It involves enforcing a pro-American immigration system. It involves rolling back the worst aspects of crony capitalism of which Obamacare is number one. It involves most importantly getting to zero based budgeting so we can examine every dollar, cut any dollar, move any dollar, and taking that 73,000 page tax code down to three pages.

VAN SUSTEREN: Just to add, the zero based budgeting is if we can figure out how to get rid of some of this waste and fraud in the government we can pay for more law enforcement or some of the other things.

FIORINA: Absolutely. It's also true that we have more IRS personnel today because of that 73,000 page tax code than we do CIA and FBI combined, does that strike you as a misallocation of resources? I think so.

VAN SUSTEREN: Don't get me started, anyway, Carly Fiorina, welcome to Washington, nice to see you.

FIORINA: Thank you. Thanks for having me, Greta.