2016: What's next for GOP after 3rd debate?

'The Five': Candidates continue to react to debate and RNC; Jeb Bush's campaign may be on life support


This is a rush transcript from "The Five," October 30, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

KIMBERLY GUILFOYLE, CO-HOST: Hello, everyone. I'm Kimberly Guilfoyle, along with Geraldo Rivera, Eric Bolling, Meghan McCain, and Greg Gutfeld. It's 5 o'clock in New York City and this is "The Five."

Some of the GOP candidates are still seething about Wednesday night's grossly biased debate on CNBC, saying they are prepared to take action.


MIKE HUCKABEE, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Be ready to hear that the campaigns are going to not allow the networks to control this process, to marginalize the very candidates. I think there's going to be some pretty bold expressions from the joint campaigns that will be coming very soon.

BEN CARSON, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I've asked my staff to reach out to all the staffs of all the other candidates, and let's talk about a different type of format.


GUILFOYLE: Did the RNC just attempt to get ahead of them? The committee has pulled out of the upcoming NBC debate scheduled for February 26th. In a letter to the network, Chairman Reince Priebus writes, the CNBC debate was conducted in bad faith. We need to insure there's not a repeat performance. NBC responded with a statement calling it as a disappointing development. However, along with our debate broadcast partners at Telemundo, we will work in good faith to resolve this matter with the Republican Party. The moderators on Wednesday night were widely criticized for their outrageous line of questioning.


GERALDO RIVERA, CO-HOST: It was outrageous.

GUILFOYLE: Yeah, it was outrageous. But, you know what, this has been a pretty rapid turn of events. Because what you have is outrage immediately on social media. You have all the candidates coming out talking afterwards from the debate saying they didn't feel they were treated properly. This was supposed to be about the economy, what's going on in country. And instead, you didn't see any probing pertinent questions in that regard. Then you have the RNC taking a lot of heat and flack from the candidates, who feel they didn't support them, that they didn't properly vet this debate or the moderators in the line of questioning. This is the fallout and a spin.

RIVERA: I think first of all, NBC is not yet out of that February debate. They say they have suspended the debate. They haven't said they canceled the debate. NBC cleverly pulls in Telemundo. Because remember, this debate will be held in Houston, in the heart of Hispanic America.


RIVERA: And it is inconceivable to me that the RNC, or the Republican candidates will refuse to debate when one of the key issues in the entire race, immigration, impacts so profoundly the population that I'm describing. So I think that they will come to some compromise. But I totally agree that the questioning was outrageously biased. I think that the first question, which should have been the opening remarks from the various candidates that was agreed. Instead they asked, what was the lamest thing that ever happened to you?

ERIC BOLLING, CO-HOST: What's your greatest weakness?

(CROSSTALK) GUILFOYLE: But I also see some conservative Latino groups coming out to support NBC, because of the connection to Telemundo. So everybody is kind of like doing a little bit of the taking sides, Bolling.

BOLLING: So there are a bunch of Republican debates, and to Reince Priebus' credit, he spread them around. CNN got some, Fox got some, business networks got some, NBC, mainstream media got them. Look at the sides, there are six debates, where's the Fox debate? There's a CNN debate, there's a PBS debate, there's a Univision debate.


BOLLING: There's no Fox debate. So on the DNC side, they said Fox isn't going to get one of our debates. But on the Republican side, they said, you know what, we're going to let everyone see it. All the audience is going to see it. I think it was a good idea. However, understanding that, they can still put some restrictions. CNBC says we are going to focus on money, the economy, the debt, things like that. Force them to say are you sure you're going to do it? Not asking them for what their questions are, or direct them to ask a certain thing. But force them into the corner and say, this is the area we're going to go. And when they don't, like they failed to do on Wednesday night, then you punish them the way they're going to allegedly punish. I do think -- I agree with Geraldo. I think there will be an NBC debate on February 26th. This is the RNC's way of saying hey, enough of this crap. The next time do you this, there's no more debate for your network.

GUILFOYLE: Yeah. They have to take a stand.

MEGHAN MCCAIN, CO-HOST: I think it's not too much to ask to vet these moderators. I have seen more debates than I can possibly remember in my lifetime. This debate -- the CNBC debate will be studied in political science classes of what exactly not to do, and how you bring your personal biases and personal politics into a presidential debate. I completely agree with Reince Priebus until everyone else can have a fair debate and not bring in their liberal media biases and berate the candidates -- when I was watching it I was thinking if my father was up there, I would have stormed the stage. It was so disrespectful, so rude, so biased. I have no problems with what's happening. There has to be some ground rules.

GUILFOYLE: Yeah. There has to be some repercussions. Could you imagine, Greg, if this was the Democratic debate and you know, you have Hillary Clinton on to be outraged, saying it's sexist, it's inappropriate, it's a war on women, you're not taking it seriously. The Republicans are acting like oh, this is a joke and they're making a mockery of it.

GREG GUTFELD, CO-HOST: Well, you know, Reince did this once before in August 13th. He threatened CNN and I think CNBC because of their Hillary Clinton documentary. In this case, it's Reince and repeat. Anyway, but this is nuts. Who did this (inaudible) benefit most? Why did the candidates want it to stop? That debate benefited the candidate. Because there's nothing better than going after the media.


GUTFELD: But I don't care about that. I care about the candidates. If you're going to be David and Goliath, you want -- you want to be David. And the candidates were placed in that position where the media became Goliath. And meanwhile, CNBC, the debate is like dog poop on their shoes that they can't scrape off. They were smeared with it. I think you know what, if you get a biased panel.

RIVERA: That's a vivid metaphor.

GUILFOYLE: Thank you very much. I have more of them in my vivid metaphor booklet. If you ever get in a position where you're David and Goliath with the media, embrace it. America loves it.

BOLLING: They also gave the ones that aren't Donald Trump or Ben Carson, another Goliath.



BOLLING: And that was to give them more talking time. So if you look, the ones that had the biggest problem with it were the leaders. The ones that had the least amount of problems with the CNBC debate were the ones who got to stand up. Ted Cruz.


RIVERA: I thought he was the sharpest in terms of his criticism. The way he phrased it, he repeated the four silly questions that preceded his. I thought he had a good memory and took the legs out from under the moderator.

MCCAIN: But ultimately, America deserves better than that. I was actually looking forward to.


MCCAIN: No, it's not. We should know the difference between each candidate and their opinions, the future of America and the economy. I sat there two hours of basically a clown show because these amateur moderators couldn't do their research. Americans deserve better than that.


GUTFELD: But that's not exciting.

GUILFOYLE: Fox Business Network, we'll show them how it's done.


GUILFOYLE: All right. Now, to some other 2016 news, after failing to deliver a strong performance Wednesday night's debate, Jeb Bush acknowledges to donors he needs to step up his game. But he denies his campaign has plunged in a death spiral.


JEB BUSH, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It's not on life support. We have the most money, we have the greatest organization. We're doing fine. Look, in October -- late October of four years ago, Herman Cain was the frontrunner for the Republican nomination. Eight years ago, Hillary Clinton was up by 26 points against an unknown state senator named Barack Obama. Every one of these elections goes through a process.


GUILFOYLE: All true. Anything can happen. But.

RIVERA: Talk about a guy who got spanked. Jeb Bush went after Marco Rubio for Marco Rubio -- Senator Rubio's absence from the Senate, and I think that's an absolutely legitimate issue. Marco Rubio was primed, ready for the attack.

GUILFOYLE: And why is that?

RIVERA: He turned it back. He said you never raised it when John McCain - - with all due respect to Senator McCain was running. You never raised that issue. Why are you raising it now? You're only raising it because your handlers have told you it's an effective way to attack me and I'm beating you.


GUILFOYLE: But he knew that was coming, you knew that, right.

RIVERA: It emasculated Jeb Bush. I think Jeb Bush is beyond life support. I don't care if he has $100 million in the bank. He is not going to buy the popularity vote.


GUTFELD: By the way, you don't want it put your name in the same sentence as life support. I mean, you shouldn't have said that.


GUTFELD: It's worse than being linked to Hep C or Russell Brand. It doesn't work. When you say my candidacy is not on life support, you are saying my candidacy is on life support. He's coming off so stiff. He makes Queen Elizabeth look like Gumby. He needs to show America that it's more than just money that he has. Because he has money, but he hasn't shown that.

BOLLING: Maybe he doesn't.


BOLLING: Maybe that's all he has.

GUILFOYLE: That's not true.


BOLLING: He clearly doesn't have the personality that his brother has. He clearly doesn't have the ability to campaign like some of the other Republicans have. He has a lot of money.

GUTFELD: But he also has a resume.

BOLLING: He has a resume.

GUTFELD: He was a good governor of a large state.


BOLLING: Here's the thing, you know what matters a lot right now? Less the resume and how you present your resume.


MCCAIN: Can I say something here? As the only person that's been on a campaign that imploded and came back from the dead -- as the one person on this panel that has, what he needs to do, he needs to clean house with his staff. Because there are a lot of people in politics that.


BOLLING: It's their fault? It's not their fault.


GUILFOYLE: Eric, she actually has some inside information we were talking about.


MCCAIN: I'm saying that people in politics, they only care about being in a book on game change and hanging out with people and will sell out their candidates. I know this better than anyone else. Yes, Jeb Bush's messaging is completely off. He's a bad candidate and a bad campaigner. But I also believe he has bad people around him. And I think if he cleaned house and found people that believed in him, I'm living proof, I was there. That can turn around the campaign.

GUILFOYLE: And you're saying -- you told me, they were some of the same people that were on your father's campaign?



MCCAIN: I don't understand why you're being so rude. I'm saying new blood on a campaign trail.

BOLLING: I'm being rude? I'm making a point about Jeb Bush. I'm not talking about your father. I'm talking about Jeb Bush. Everyone is looking for a blame on the bottom-line, the guy is a bad candidate.

GUTFELD: We're in a sad place where a good governor of a large state is a bad candidate because he's not glib enough and because he doesn't look well.

GUILFOYLE: Right. But guess what, the point is experience and ability should matter because how many years ago was everybody complaining that Barack Obama was somebody who could talk the talk and look the part, but didn't have the goods to back it up? I'm saying yes. In this day and age, you have to have the experience, you have to have the gravitas to be able to carry the day.

BOLLING: So you don't like Ben Carson then?


GUILFOYLE: You've been sitting here on the show, right? How many times do I talk about Ben Carson?

BOLLING: Yeah, you like him.

GUILFOYLE: No, I'm saying as Americans voting in the booth, there should be more.


BOLLING: What about charisma? What about charisma? You have to want somebody to be in the room and hang out with you.

MCCAIN: And meat-and-potatoes campaign, and go out in Town Halls, convince the New Hampshire voters, convince Iowa voters. It is possible.


MCCAIN: Jeb Bush is not going to do OK in New Hampshire. Campaigning like that and these kinds of statements, he's not. I spent a significant portion of my life on campaign trail, I know how voters react, yes, Jeb Bush has a messaging problem. But I still believe he has a staffing problem.

GUILFOYLE: So you're saying, there's additional problem. And you're right. You can't have people that aren't winners on your campaign. And you can't have people that are leaking stuff to the press and trying to undermine you. There is a reason like who leaked that? The Jeb Bush blueprint to drudge and U.S. News and World Report, it's outrageous.


GUTFELD: You bring up charisma. I think it's very important because President Obama was persuasively correct on the candidate when he was running for president, even though he didn't have a resume. However, think about some of the leaders we've had in the past and how they could never be president, whether it's Calvin Coolidge.

RIVERA: Herbert Hoover, Jimmy Carter.


GUTFELD: They are leaders who couldn't be elected now. Abe Lincoln couldn't be elected now.



MCCAIN: You're only as good as your last tweet.

RIVERA: Donald Trump won the debate. I know there are all the pundits and specialists are all saying well Cruz and Rubio, et cetera. You had the drudge survey, you had Time Magazine survey, CNBC's own post-debate survey. Trump won it unbelievably, won it 2-1 over the nearest, he was in the high 40s. The nearest other candidate in the lower 20s.


BOLLING: Do you honestly think Trump won the debate?

RIVERA: I honestly think that Trump and Carson will set the rules now?

BOLLING: Do you think he won the debate?


RIVERA: I think it was a nonevent for Trump. From my point of view, it was neither negative nor positive.


BOLLING: Ted Cruz did a great job, did he not?

RIVERA: I think Ted Cruz did a great job.

MCCAIN: There are still eight more debates.

BOLLING: And Rubio did well.


GUTFELD: Are there eight?


RIVERA: These were magnificent numbers for a network that gets 200,000 people watching.


RIVEAR: They beat the World Series.

GUILFOYLE: Because it is interesting and as Donald Trump will tell you, he was up on the stage.

RIVERA: But without Donald Trump and Ben Carson, there is no show. I heard Governor Huckabee saying we're all going to get together. By all getting together, what you really mean is that Carson and Trump have to get together to set the rules. Because the other guys.


GUTFELD: I would miss Rubio.

RIVERA: Why Rubio?

GUTFELD: Rubio has the boyish good looks.

GUTFELD: You've grown quite fond of him.

GUTFELD: Well, actually, he was the only one that went after Hillary persuasively.


GUTFELD: And had an articulate.

GUILFOYLE: Carly did a little bit.

GUTFELD: Yeah, but his was an assault on her incompetence and corruption, which was necessary.

GUILFOYLE: I think this is laid the stage. No joke. That this debate on Fox Business Network is going to be fantastic. Because now the whole focus is going to be on it, let's see how this is done differently, comparatively between the two, that other business channel.

MCCAIN: And people who actually know a little bit about politics will be hosting it, which will be a nice change.

GUILFOYLE: And money.


BOLLING: If you didn't have FBN, demand it.

GUILFOYLE: Demand it.

MCCAIN: All right. That was enough.

GUILFOYLE: Coming up on The Five, a special Halloween edition of Facebook Friday -- oh, Greg. Post your questions for us now on

Also ahead, the Fastest Seven with Bolling.

But first, U.S. troops are now being deployed to Syria to fight ISIS, even though the president had pledged no boots on the ground. Stay with us.


RIVERA: You remember when facing mounting civilian casualties from the endless Syrian civil war in 2013, the president announced the beginning of U.S. military action there in Syria. President Obama promised at the time as you recall that there would be no U.S. ground troops involved.


BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Many of you have asked, won't this put us on a slippery slope to another war? My answer is simple. I will not put American boots on the ground in Syria.


RIVERA: Today, the White House announcing that there will soon be U.S. boots on the ground worn by some of our best, special operations, but fewer than 50 of them are being deployed to Syria officially to advise and assist the good rebels fighting ISIS. Here's how Spokesman Josh Earnest explained the apparent reversal.


JOSH EARNEST, WHITE HOUSE SPOKERSPERSON: In September of 2013, the president was receiving questions about what the United States was prepared to do, giving our insistence that President Bashar al-Assad had to go (inaudible). And the president was making the point that he was not prepared to put boots on the ground to take down the Assad regime. Again, that's precisely the mistake that the previous administration made, the quote that you pulled there is a very different situation.


RIVERA: Different situation, same country. My issue is not so much that the president is reversing his position, which he clearly is despite what Josh Earnest just said. My issue is whether 50 of even the world's best fighters is too few and too late. Meghan.

MCCAIN: I agree. President Obama has absolutely no strategy. He's still -- one thing that Hillary Clinton and General Petraeus have said that we need to start having no fly zones, which I agree with. So Bashar al-Assad can stop barrel-bombing his people. If anyone knows President Obama's foreign policy plan and can explain it to me, should have them on the show. Because I don't understand it.

RIVERA: But you know, Eric, in the surge, 2006, we had 150,000 troops on the ground. We were losing until we managed to convince the Sunnis to fight against the Sunni al-Qaeda. There is no meaningful or effective or efficient move right now to turn Sunni Syrians into pro-western -- you know, what I mean? There's no one to fight ISIS in the Sunni space.

BOLLING: I'm trying to figure out what this is. I mean, is this 50, that's going to become 50,000 soon?

RIVERA: Should it? Should it?

BOLLING: No, I don't think it will. I think President Obama -- yes, he reversed something he said he wasn't going to do, that's fine. War changes, life changes, the situations change. However, what are the Russians looking at right now? You're Putin, you're sending fires, you're killing ISIS, you're dropping bombs all over Syria. You're in negotiations at how you're going to fix your side and the other side allegedly, the anti-Bashar al-Assad side.

RIVERA: I get it.

BOLLING: Anti-ISIS, but also anti-Bashar al-Assad side says we're going to send 50 fighters. I mean, they must be laughing. Putin must be laughing at the Obama administration, no strategy, no idea what he's doing and no chance of succeeding.

RIVERA: Kimberly, think we should work hand in hand with the Russians to beat ISIS. ISIS cut our guys' heads off.


RIVERA: I want to you bomb from this parallel up. I want to bomb from this parallel down. I want to pound ISIS. I want to recruit Sunnis, if you can. But if you can't, still punish this extremist group that wants to kill us.

MCCAIN: Don't you think Putin is teaming up with Bashar al-Assad right now?

BOLLING: That's OK with me. Bashar al-Assad is the lesser of the two evils between Bashar al-Assad, the Shiite leader in Damascus and ISIS, the Sunni Extremist. I'll take Assad any day.

GUILFOYLE: The problem is we're in this position now of having to be subservient. Wow, the U.S. subservient to Russia and now, we're going to ask Papa Putin if we can get back and play in our house, in our theater. And this is the problem. Because we've already made such a tremendous investment in all of these different areas. Now, it's become oh, wait a second, is the Obama administration being dishonest? Well, they haven't had any kind of strategy to begin with. So this is what happens, right? Because power forms (ph) a vacuum. Now, we've got Putin in play. Listen, I don't quarrel with the president continuing by the way to have special ops and Special Forces on the ground. But guess what, we've been doing that in Iraq. We just don't telegraph and broadcast it.

RIVERA: Greg, I love the video of that raid, seeing those guys, I lament the loss of our hero, the special operator who fell. But I love seeing 70 people who are about to get their heads cut off being freed by our guys. I like that. I want ISIS to look up in the sky every minute wondering when they're going to get wasted. I want them to look in every corner, wondering when our special operations sniper will take them out.

GUTFELD: I mean, it's a good point. That guy was a hero dying what he did best, rescuing 70 people. What's worse than passivism to me is ambivalent and inaction.



GUTFELD: President Obama has a handle-it complex. He is showing up at the end credits of the movie, instead of getting there the start. You can't dip in the pool in it -- dip your toe in the pool.


GUTFELD: Thank you for correcting me.

RIVERA: I thought that was one of your weird metaphors.

GUTFELD: It might be. It could be the drugs.


RIVERA: You could start the segment with the grateful dead.

GUTFELD: That's true. There is the risk that ISIS -- when ISIS gets their hands on one of us, then -- then we're going to be faced with this, we're going to have to be prepared to annihilate, completely annihilate the enemy. We have to accept that, we can't just dip our toe in the pool. And if they happen to grab one of our guys, and it gets ugly, we can't back down, we have do say you're gone and nuke the hell out of them.

RIVERA: I hate that a terrorist organization actually occupies that territory.

GUILFOYLE: Unbelievable.

RIVERA: Including the city of Mosul.


MCCAIN: The other thing that's lost is this is the biggest humanitarian crisis since World War II. Four million people displaced, 250,000 people have been killed. We're totally losing sight of that right now as well.

RIVERA: I agree. I agree with you.

GUILFOYLE: It's a very important point.

RIVERA: Ahead, what to know.


RIVERA: I want to know about Kanye West. Is Kanye West really running for president. What does George W. Bush think about that? That's coming up next in the Fastest Seven.


BOLLING: Welcome back. Time for the Fastest Seven Minutes on television. Three spicy stories, seven speedy minutes, one sprinkley host. First up, a force you don't want to reckon with are the cops. And Quentin Tarantino is learning it the hard way. Police unions in major cities across the country are calling for a boycott of Tarantino's films, including the LAPD. Here's the report.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We called the action the police departments across the country from the east coast to the west coast, to boycott any movie that he's in or he's a producer in. I know in the City of Los Angeles, if he does a movie here, he has to get permission from the Los Angeles Police Commission. If he is in town, I'm going do make sure I'm going to try to get that denied.


BOLLING: What was -- I mean, this is a pretty severe backlash he is getting.

GUTFELD: The interesting thing, too, about this was he did -- this was calculated to restore his left-wing credentials after he got bashed by Spike Lee over that last movie. So he's literally, not literally, figuratively standing on the bodies of the dead and shouting hey, I'm cool, I'm cool.

I'm not for boycotts, especially when people who say they're boycotting something they don't normally go to. Like you hear people at FOX going, "I'm not seeing their movies anymore." Well, you don't go to their movies.

So instead talk about it. Make people aware that he's an idiot. His father knows it now. His father called him an idiot.

BOLLING: What do you think, Meghan?

RIVERA: Tarantino's father?


MCCAIN: It's some of the most violent movies that have ever been made, and he's literally commodifying off of violence. His movies glorify criminals, glorify killers.

The thing I don't understand -- I lived in Los Angeles for a year last year. There is a special kind of liberal delusion that happens in Hollywood with people where they're so delusional that we're going to start attacking policemen who don't get paid enough and literally put them -- their lives on the line every single day. I'm sick of having this conversation. I think it's such baloney.

BOLLING: Geraldo, why would Quentin Tarantino -- he literally called cops murderers.

RIVERA: It's not only...

BOLLING: That's what his...

RIVERA: ... that he called cops murderers, which was horrifying enough. But he did it with the blood of Officer Randolph Holder barely dry on the streets of 102nd Street.

He came to New York. And it was prearranged. I'm sure it was. But at least, once the cop gets killed, you say, "Hey, this is not the time to do a protest that calls cops murderers. Maybe we should give them the" -- at least bury the cop before you start slandering the whole thin blue line. I thought it was terrible.

But what the LAPD union chief just said is, in my view, unconstitutional and illegal. You can't deny Quentin Tarantino's right to make a film, because you don't agree with the hateful things he says.

BOLLING: Not a hateful thing. He said just boycott it, just don't go to it.

RIVERA: Just don't go to it, right.

GUILFOYLE: You know, Tarantino is getting a big-boy lesson now about how the world works and what it means to be held accountable for your actions. He's getting hit in the wallet...

GUTFELD: Yes, this ain't a movie.

RIVERA: This ain't a movie. This ain't "Reservoir Dogs."

GUILFOYLE: ... a little bit. Twelve million large, you're about to feel it. I mean, this will have repercussions on him financially and economically. It was incredibly disrespectful. I don't care if it was already on the calendar. Grow up and do the right thing.

BOLLING: Send them home.

All right. Stay right there, K.G. You're up first on this one. You know when a presidential debate is a joke, when virtually all the late-night comics poke fun at it. Colbert and Kimmel couldn't help themselves as CNBC practically wrote the punchlines for themselves.


CARL QUINTANILLA, CNBC ANCHOR: What is your biggest weakness, and what are you doing it address it?

STEPHEN COLBERT, HOST, CBS'S "THE LATE SHOW WITH STEPHEN COLBERT": Yes. They open with the one question that no one in human history has ever answered honestly. When I interviewed for this job, I said my biggest weakness was sometimes I work so hard I forget to cash my paychecks.

JIMMY KIMMEL, HOST, ABC'S "JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE": At a certain point I didn't know if I was watching a debate or "The View."



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And we'll be right back.


BOLLING: We'll be right back.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, that was brilliant. I mean, it was brilliant. That's the best thing you can say about that debate, was it was sort of comical at some point and insulting in others. But yes, it's fodder for late-night TV, for sure.

GUTFELD: This is what -- to repeat what I said in the "A" block, this is why it helps the Republicans, because finally the rest of the country, including comedians, who are normally -- only go after conservatives, are actually agreeing with what we've been saying for so long, that media bias exists.


GUTFELD: And I mean, that wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for that debate. So I say more media bias being exposed.

RIVERA: It should have been like Barbara Walters, you know, if you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?

GUTFELD: Yes. That was next.

RIVERA: What's your favorite color?

MCCAIN: It has come as a great surprise to a lot of people that there's this liberal media bias. I had friends texting me, like, "Oh, this actually does exist."


MCCAIN: I'm like, "Where have you been? Happens all the time."

BOLLING: How about this one. How does the idea of rapper Kanye West running for president in 2020 sound? Well, Bush thinks it's funny. That's 43, not Jeb. Check out George Bush's reaction to President Yeezus.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President, your thoughts on Kanye West running for president one day? Your thoughts on Kanye West running for president one day?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I used to work at the White House.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think he'd have a chance in 2020?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: God bless you, Mr. President. God bless you. Thank you very much.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have a safe trip.


BOLLING: He yells back, "Don't sell that on EBay."

There's the little personality.

RIVERA: You see the difference between George W. and his brother Jeb. I mean, why is that? Why do you have such a disconnect? He's one guy. He's chewing gum. He's casual. He's relaxed. Admittedly, he's out of office now. But he's done his post-presidency with such dignity and elan and charisma. Again, charisma, and that's what you don't see in his brother.

MCCAIN: One of the most charming men I've ever met in my life is President George W. Bush. I don't know why some families have one personality and another, but that's how it's done.

GUILFOYLE: But not everybody is the Rivera family. You've got brother Craig and Geraldo, both cool.

RIVERA: Rocking around.

GUTFELD: You know what's funny? I was watching that TMZ tape. And it was interesting how polite the paparazzi was, because they knew if they did anything, Secret Service would murder them.

BOLLING: Mr. Bush, Mr. Bush, a big fan.

GUTFELD: Big fan, Mr. Bush. Big fan, Mr. Bush.

BOLLING: Watch TMZ. Big fan.

Still to come, our Halloween edition of "Facebook Friday." But first, the Halloween police are out in force again on some college campuses. Greg's going to tell you some of the costumes they find offensive this year, next.


GUTFELD: At the State University of New York at Geneseo, you'll find posters that say "Halloween Checklist: Is your costume offensive? Check yourself and check your friends."

The poster lists five officials -- five -- that you can call for advice. I say bravo. We should call out these -- this hateful attire. So here's my list. What I hate.

Firemen. First, it's sexist. I mean fireman? And it demeans arsonists, an alternative lifestyle where I come from.

Ghosts. Isn't it time we checked our alive privilege? Being dead makes you no rest human. Which is why I won't rest until we can marry them, Kimberly.

Speaking of, what about zombies? You appropriate dead culture and smear them with grim stereotypes. It's worse than Islamophobia. Zombie phobia turns the afterlife into a humiliation for the decayed. Where is their Gandhi?

Freddy Krueger. Great, dress up as a misunderstood disfigured working man. How classist.

Policeman. That's comforting, a symbol of oppression to Quentin Tarantino. And those seeking cool cred from black activists. Why don't you just say you hate black people?

Sexy French maid. Yes, subservience sure is sexy. What's next, slave?

Vampire. Is it their fault they have dietary demands? Do you really think vampires want to drink your blood? Do you think I like being lactose intolerant? You're blood intolerant.

Do you know what I'm going as this Halloween? That perceptive person who sees evil in everything. Yes, I'm going as John Harwood, Bozo the Clown for short.


GUTFELD: I am nothing if not a cheap shot artist.

GUILFOYLE: Yes. And he had it coming.

GUTFELD: Yes. All right. I know you are -- getting dressed this Halloween.

GUILFOYLE: Thank God I'm none of those things you just said.

GUTFELD: Here's my theory.


GUTFELD: Kids can do whatever they want and not be offensive. If an adult does something offensive, then they should know better. But do you find anything offensive?

RIVERA: I want to know what you're wearing.


RIVERA: Short, feathery?

That's sexist? Am I approaching sexism?

GUILFOYLE: Short, yes. Lacy, in part. But not visible.

GUTFELD: Lacy in parts.

GUILFOYLE: What else did you say?

RIVERA: I don't know. So far, so good.

GUILFOYLE: But I love America.

GUTFELD: Yes. You do love America. A way to get out of this.

GUILFOYLE: I've got a nice little flight suit. A little -- it's actually a dress. I'm going as Maverick.


RIVERA: I'm almost always Zorro or a pirate. Although I was Harry Potter last year.

BOLLING: You're not talking about Halloween, are you?

GUTFELD: No, no, no.

RIVERA: I'm in charge of the haunted house at my kids' school.

GUTFELD: Really? That's an interesting thing to be in charge of.

BOLLING: Why do women always want to look hot and sexy in costumes? Wouldn't it be...

GUTFELD: Men create the sexy costumes.

GUILFOYLE: What do you mean?

BOLLING: Because I think it would be cool to be funny.

RIVERA: What do you have against sexy?

GUILFOYLE: Yes. What if you can't help it, Bolling? I mean, this is the problem.

RIVERA: I think that you should have, like, a protest group.

GUILFOYLE: You think?

RIVERA: A war on sexy women who dress sexy.

GUTFELD: It's a war on -- you know what Halloween is? A war on sexy women.

MCCAIN: It's one of the only socially acceptable times where women can dress provocatively.

GUTFELD: Exactly.

MCCAIN: I used to when I was in my 20s. But now that I'm in my 30s. But when people are so offended, I'm like women are walking around almost naked down the street. When I go to a college campus, pretty much naked.

GUILFOYLE: The problem is, what else can you get for 30 bucks at Ricky's?

RIVERA: I go in brown face, but nobody notices.


GUTFELD: I don't know how to respond to that. So in that case, one must exit this segment quickly. A special Halloween edition of "Facebook Friday" is up next.


MCCAIN: It's time for a special edition of "Facebook Friday," Halloween edition. We've got your questions, so let's begin.

OK. The first question from Kathleen G., "What is your favorite scary movie?" Anybody?

GUTFELD: "Love Actually."

GUILFOYLE: You hate that movie.

GUTFELD: Scariest movie ever. All these people, you're telling you how they feel about love. I swear I slit my wrists every time that thing is on.

GUILFOYLE: You really can't stand that movie.

GUTFELD: Worst movie ever made.

GUILFOYLE: Just because you dislike it so much I watched it again. I found it quite interesting.

RIVERA: I love "Young Frankenstein."

MCCAIN: I love that one, too.

GUTFELD: Is that scary, though?

RIVERA: It's not scary. But scary is scary. I don't like scary.

GUILFOYLE: I don't like scary movies at all. Like, I didn't like the Jason movies, the "Friday the 13th." I didn't like, you know, the Freddy Krueger, "A Nightmare on Elm Street." Oh, my gosh.

RIVERA: I don't know how -- why people get off on that.

GUILFOYLE: I like, you know, movies like "Bad Boys." I like "Top Gun."

BOLLING: Greg, you know what I just saw? I just saw a recent...

GUTFELD: Del Toro?

BOLLING: Del Toro. "The House," it was scary. But I can't get scared by those things any more. When you're a kid, they scare the heck out of you.

RIVERA: No -- "No Town for Old Men." That was...

MCCAIN: "No Country for Old Men"? Yes.

RIVERA: "No Country for Old Men." That was scary.

BOLLING: "Walking Dead." "Walking Dead" is...

RIVERA: Do you like "Walking Dead"?

GUILFOYLE: He loves zombies.

BOLLING: ... religious. I love zombies.


BOLLING: And one day -- your monologue.

GUILFOYLE: You'll be able to marry them. Yes. Then good.

GUTFELD: One day.

MCCAIN: I liked "28 Days Later." The zombie movie.

GUTFELD: Because those were fast zombies.

MCCAIN: Yes, fast zombies.

GUTFELD: The great thing is they discovered that faster zombies are scarier zombies.

GUILFOYLE: You know what else is scary? "I Am Legend," another Will Smith movie.

GUTFELD: No. Too CGI for me.

MCCAIN: All right. Next move -- question, Nora B.: "What do you hand out as treats on Halloween? What do you hand out as treats on Halloween: candy, fruit or money?"


MCCAIN: Who's handing out money?

GUILFOYLE: Well, I do after I run out of candy.

GUTFELD: The person that hands out money is the alcoholic in your neighborhood who forgot it was Halloween. So what happens is, the kids show up. They don't know what these kids are doing here. The kids are in costume and they're going, "Oh, my God, flashback." And they're freaking out. And they're going -- and all of a sudden, they realize it's Halloween and they start -- I remember this, because I had a guy on my block, and he'd just throw money at me.

RIVERA: Dimes -- put dimes in apples.

GUTFELD: That's good.

GUILFOYLE: With a guy like that, you can go any day of the year. And you just, like, put on some cat ears, and you're like, "Trick-or-treat." He's like, "Here's some bus money. Take it."

RIVERA: Kids want candy, period.

BOLLING: Yes. You cannot do the old -- I don't want to deal with the doorbell or I have to go out and put a bowl of candy. The first bowl I do is like this. It's never a girl, it's a boy. And I'll tell you, you can do it all. A great case study would be to film that.

GUTFELD: A good sex-difference study.

BOLLING: Yes. You put a little...

GUILFOYLE: That's what they do, totally.

BOLLING: They all do. They don't take one.

GUILFOYLE: Ronan changes his costume, like, three times in a night. And goes...


GUILFOYLE: These candy corn are delicious, probably dirty off the table. Right?

MCCAIN: Debby W. wants to know, "What was your best Halloween costume ever?"

BOLLING: I'll just start with this one.

MCCAIN: That's a hard one.

BOLLING: I once went as -- along the lines of you don't want to look good. It's more fun to look funny. I went as a bug. I went as a big fat bug with a thing like this, and I won. I won a bottle of champagne at Halloween. I looked like an absolute moron. Tights, it was horrible. I think I have that picture. I think I'll bring it in.

RIVERA: They say -- my primetime was in the '60s. They say if you remember the '60s, you weren't really there. So I don't remember. I don't -- I definitely don't.

GUTFELD: You probably went as Geraldo Rivera.

RIVERA: I probably did.

MCCAIN: Does anyone ever go as you?

RIVERA: Yes. I had some big years where lots of mustache -- mustaches.

MCCAIN: I went as Babe-raham Lincoln one year.

RIVERA: Babe-raham Lincoln.

MCCAIN: Babe-raham Lincoln. Like the Abraham Lincoln hat and a dress?

GUILFOYLE: That's cute.

GUTFELD: I won an award in second grade for this costume which you could never do now. I went as a hobo. You remember people would go as hobos. You'd put ash on your face and have a pipe and a bundle. And you'd put pillows and show up for school -- If did you that now they'd be going, "You are making fun of the homeless."

GUILFOYLE: Microaggression, let me get to my...

GUTFELD: Get out of here.

GUILFOYLE: Yes, totally.

RIVERA: I like the little kids, like my daughters in little princess-y things. You know, just going around, they seem so sweet and innocent.

GUILFOYLE: Why can't I wear a princess thing?

RIVERA: You, too. Around here you could. As a matter of fact, I think I've seen you in the -- what room is that? No. I overthrow the joke there.

GUILFOYLE: I was Notre Dame cheerleader, followed up by...

RIVERA: I bet were you a great cheerleader.


MCCAIN: Sounds like a good costume.


MCCAIN: All right. Tatiana N. wants to know "What age should you stop going trick-or-treating?"

RIVERA: Thirteen.

GUTFELD: Well, I'd say -- I'd say 10.

GUILFOYLE: You're no fun.

GUTFELD: At 11, you start egging.

RIVERA: Toilet papering.

GUTFELD: TP-ing at 11, egging at 12.

GUILFOYLE: At a certain point, then, you get too old to go door to door.

GUTFELD: And also, it must suck if you're a tall kid, like you're six but you're taller than me -- like 4'8".

GUILFOYLE: That's a lot of people.

BOLLING: When a 17-year-old comes to your door looking for candy you're like "Really, dude? Really? This is all you've got to do?"

GUTFELD: Wouldn't it be terrible if you were looking for somebody named Candy. And it happens on Halloween she went missing. And you go, "Where's Candy?" People go, "What are you talking about?"

RIVERA: That was such a -- where did that come from?

GUILFOYLE: No one knows.

Poor Meghan. My girl.

MCCAIN: Linda P. wants to know, "What is your favorite Halloween candy?"

GUILFOYLE: Well, today at this exact moment it's candy corn. But normally, I like the Reese's peanut butter cups.

MCCAIN: All right. Just because this is available.

All right. "One More Thing" is up next. That's it. Thanks.


GUILFOYLE: It's time now for "One More Thing." I'm up first. So you've got to check out Greta. Because she has, I mean, one of my favorite actresses of all time. A sit-down interview with Sandra Bullock. How do you like that? Because she is also one of America's favorite actresses. And she has an awesome new movie out called "Our Brand is Crisis." It looks very, very good. Getting great reviews. It hits theaters, so it's out now. And there's a scene in the movie that's kind of revealing. And here's Greta asking Sandra about it.


GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST, "ON THE RECORD": People do stunts for them. The mooning.


VAN SUSTEREN: Was that -- is that, was that, did you do that? Or did you...

BULLOCK: I will neither confirm nor deny that that was my rear end.


GUILFOYLE: She's great, so that's tonight at 7 p.m. You don't want to miss it. I'm certainly going to check it out. Greta and Sandra.

All right. Greg.

GUTFELD: Mooning. Who does that anymore?

GUILFOYLE: Probably you.

GUTFELD: No. I don't moon. Not since...

RIVERA: Oh, I did.

GUTFELD: Not since the accident.

Plug the show. Sunday I've got P.J. O'Rourke. We do a one-on-one interview over politics and everything. Great to see him. He was great.

And also my book tour begins Sunday. You remember the bus. Look at this cute little thing. Isn't that wonderful? If you go to, you can see the cities. Sunday, I start in Pennsylvania, Easton, Pennsylvania. Monday, Ohio, I'm all over Ohio like a bad virus. And then Tuesday, Kentucky; Wednesday, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan. Just go to GGutfeld. And stop by, say hello. Bring me gifts, that I can smoke.


GUTFELD: I'm joking, America.

GUILFOYLE: And if you bring any gifts for us, please encourage Greg to actually give them to us.

GUTFELD: I forget, and I leave them on the bus.

GUILFOYLE: He's like somebody gave me this.

GUTFELD: I owe Eric a book.


BOLLING: Are you on Meghan?


BOLLING: Are you on Meghan tonight?

GUTFELD: Yes. I'm on Meghan tonight.

BOLLING: There you go.

GUTFELD: That's right. I forget.

BOLLING: So at 7 p.m., Greta has Sandra Bullock. And 9 p.m., Meghan has Greg. At 8 p.m., I'll be hosting "The O'Reilly Factor." Ed Henry, guys. Ed Henry, guys.

GUILFOYLE: We broke up with him.

BOLLING: No, but Ed is bringing -- he has a special pocket hankie that he wants to show everyone. You have to see it.

GUTFELD: Are you going to ask him about mooning?

BOLLING: Ask him about mooning and also John Kasich, as well.

RIVERA: Fabulous time of year here in New York. We went up the Hudson River, took the boat up the Hudson. The trees are brilliant in their oranges and their reds.

That's my big boy, the oldest of my five, Gabriel, on the right. And that's the youngest of my grandchildren, actually, my middle grandson. His name is Desi, Desmond. That's Dr. Dev, my daughter in law. A beautiful family.

But just get out the water if you can. The leaves will all be gone in a couple of days, and it's just one of the prettiest places in America.

GUILFOYLE: You're very sweet. You've become very nostalgic.

RIVERA: I love...

GUTFELD: A grandfather.

RIVERA: I love being a grandpa. I love being a daddy.

GUILFOYLE: Nice. Meghan McCain.

MCCAIN: My "One More Thing," my mom's favorite show, "The Joy of Painting" with Bob Ross, is now streaming on online platform. A lot of people are really into it. Not kidding. You can stream all 403 episodes through the weekend.

GUTFELD: He's not alive, right? He passed away.

MCCAIN: He passed on.

GUTFELD: Because this is an amazing show to watch.

MCCAIN: My mother made me watch this growing up all the time. I thought it was so boring. And may he rest in peace.

GUTFELD: It's soothing. It's soothing.

GUILFOYLE: It actually is.

GUTFELD: It's like an aquarium.

GUILFOYLE: The mountains.

All right. Well, this has been interesting. Happy Friday to everybody. Happy Halloween, be safe. And...

RIVERA: Four hundred and seven episodes?

MCCAIN: Four hundred and three.

RIVERA: You're going to be -- your poor mom's going to be watching...

GUILFOYLE: Set your DVRs. Never miss an episode of "The Five" or "Geraldo." "Special Report," all of the above.

RIVERA: Thanks. We'll be there.

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