How would a President Fiorina deal with Putin?

Carly Fiorina talks Obama's foreign policy failures, Planned Parenthood hearing on 'Hannity'


This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," September 30, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: And welcome to "Hannity." Tonight, after weeks of a military buildup, Russia has now begun an aggressive bombing campaign inside the war-torn country of Syria. Now, this comes after the Pentagon rebuffed a brazen demand from a Russian general who requested that the United States completely clear out of Syrian airspace. Now, keep in mind, for months, the U.S. has been waging an aerial assault against ISIS in that region.

But that's not all. The Putin regime emphasized that these new Russian air strikes are all part of a counterterrorism operation called against the so-called Islamic State. However, FOX News is reporting that the air strikes occurred in a region of Syria that's not occupied by ISIS.

So what does this all mean? And how should the U.S. respond to the latest example of Russian aggression? Here now with reaction, 2016 Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina.

So they begin these air strikes in areas that are not known to be held by ISIS. And then you got an official Russian demanding that our war planes leave the area. What do you think's going on here? And how would you respond if you're president?

CARLY FIORINA, R-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, first, we know what's going on. Syria and Russia, who have had a longstanding relationship, Iran and Iraq are forming an unholy alliance. Russia's intentions are to shore up and stabilize the Assad regime.

ISIS is sort of a camouflage. There is no doubt that Russia will be conducting air strikes against anti-Assad rebels. Whether or not they happen to strike a few ISIS folks as well, is, I don't know, to be determined.

Here's what we need to do immediately, I believe. First, not only can we not withdraw our air support, but I believe we must tell the Russians that we will conduct, we will secure a no-fly zone around anti-Assad rebel forces that we're supporting.

This is a tricky maneuver, it's a dangerous maneuver, but it's a maneuver that we must undertake because we must make it crystal clear to Russia that they do not get to move into the Middle East and become the dominant outside power, which is clearly their intention.

Secondly, I would immediately call together...

HANNITY: Can I stop you? Does that mean we might...

FIORINA: Yes, of course.

HANNITY: ... we might use force against Russian jets?

FIORINA: Well, hopefully, not. Hopefully, if we are signaling clearly to the Russians our intention, it will not come to that. But if it does come to that, I think we must be prepared.

Remember, Russian jets have been basically conducting dangerous and unpredictable maneuvers around our waters and our borders and our territory. So this is clearly a Russian aggressor that feels very confident.

HANNITY: All right...

FIORINA: And why wouldn't they? Because Obama and Kerry have been unbelievably weak and surprised by all these maneuvers, although they should not have been because when General Suleimani of the Quds Force traveled to Russia on behalf of Iran, it was clear he was beseeching Russia to enter into this unholy alliance.

HANNITY: And there's been no retaliation, there's been no repercussions for any of this Russian aggression, nor Chinese aggression...


HANNITY: ... hacking into our government systems.


HANNITY: So -- so what we have here is, it seems to me, like this is Putin following through on a stated strategy to let Assad stay in power, the exact opposite of what the United States has been supporting, and literally undermining our efforts in that region.

FIORINA: Of course.

HANNITY: So they are taking us on directly.

FIORINA: Yes. This is a...

HANNITY: How far are we -- how far are we willing to go here?

FIORINA: ... direct strategy.

HANNITY: Because if I...

FIORINA: You know what?

HANNITY: In a game of chicken against Obama, I say Putin wins!

FIORINA: Well, so far, yes, that is correct. And it's really a shame. You know, if you permit bad behavior, you get more bad behavior.  So when we did not push back in any way on Russia's aggression into Ukraine, we get more bad behavior.

What I would do as president of the United States is immediately call together the Turks, I would start arming the Kurds -- my goodness, the Kurds have been asking us to arm them for three years. We haven't done it.  We need now to engage the Turks, who have been asking us to work with them to secure a no-fly zone between the Turkish and Syrian border. We haven't really done that. We need to.

We need to arm the Kurds, and we need to pull together our Sunni Arab allies who view all of these developments with great alarm and provide them with the leadership, the support, the materiel that they need to not only defeat ISIS but also to stand up against Iranian, Syrian and Russia aggression.

HANNITY: And we're going to have more coverage on this throughout the night tonight. I want to move on. You recently were at an event, one at which you had apparently part of the stage collapse. That made a lot of news. But at another event, were condoms thrown at you by Planned Parenthood activists?

FIORINA: Yes, condoms were thrown at me, and several of the activists were dressed up like birth control dispensers. You see, it's all part of their act to try and convince people that this debate we're having about butchering babies is actually about birth control or women's health.

It's, of course, no such thing. It's about butchering babies for body parts. But nevertheless, they're throwing condoms, hoping it will make a difference. I think the American people are smarter than that. And I will not be silent on this issue.

HANNITY: Now, they had the hearings yesterday. The Planned Parenthood president went on television last night and claimed that anybody questioning the selling of baby body parts for Lamborghinis is somehow sexist. Here's what she said.


CECILE RICHARDS, PLANNED PARENTHOOD PRESIDENT: I mean, I do think some of the comments were pretty sexist. But actually, I think it was because they didn't have anything else to talk about. But it seemed like they didn't really want to talk about any issues that were relevant to the topic at hand. And frankly, I was a bit dismayed at how little the -- many members of committee even knew about women's health at all.


HANNITY: Now, on top of that, Carly, you had Barbara Boxer, the senator from California, and you had the Planned Parenthood executive vice president both personally going after you, and I want to get your response.  Let's play them both.


SEN. BARBARA BOXER, D-CALIF.: It's terrible to see a woman, the only woman running for president, attack Planned Parenthood that helps so many millions of women. It's a sad day, but it's the way it is. Not all women are going to fight for women. Carly Fiorina does not. She fights for herself, and she'll say almost anything to get elected.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She is operating in a fact-free zone when it comes to Planned Parenthood. She is lying about footage about Planned Parenthood. She knows it, and she doesn't have a way out. I've, in fact, invited Carly Fiorina, as have all of our CEOs and Cecile Richards, said, Come to a Planned Parenthood or come sit down with us at a table and let's discuss this because you were lying about Planned Parenthood. And you can disagree on abortion, but you have to actually operate from the facts.


HANNITY: You have not told one lie, Carly Fiorina. What's your reaction to that?

FIORINA: That's right. Well, oh, gosh, where do I start? First of all, to say it's sexist to go after Planned Parenthood's lies is pretty rich. And in fact, when you mentioned those protesters who were throwing condoms at me -- this woman said to me from among the protesters, I'm willing to sit down and talk to anyone. She said, Why do you hate women?  And at the time, I was surrounded by women of all ages.

It is part of the game they play. When Barbara Boxer says, Well, you know, she doesn't support women, this is part and parcel of Hillary Clinton's rhetoric.

You know, Hillary Clinton once said when she was campaigning against Joni Ernst last year in Iowa, she said, Well, it's not enough to be a woman. You have to be a woman who believes. And then she went through her litany of liberal talking points.

In other words, it is Democrats and liberals and Planned Parenthood executives that don't want any distance between their orthodoxy...

HANNITY: OK, so...

FIORINA: ... and any other woman.

HANNITY: So Republicans now are dealing with the issue...

FIORINA: And by the way, up until this point in time -- up until this point in time -- I'm sorry to interrupt, Sean, but up until this point in time, not only am I not lying, but Planned Parenthood has not, will not, cannot deny that this is happening because it is.

And if they care so much about women's health, why is it that Democrats will not agree to use taxpayer funding to support pregnancy centers all around this country?

HANNITY: Well, I think the Republicans...

FIORINA: Why do they always oppose that?

HANNITY: They can take that $500 million a year, a half a billion a year, and give it to other women's health groups that are not involved...

FIORINA: Certainly, they could.

HANNITY: ... in the harvesting of baby body parts, and then they can't make the argument. Would you like to see Republicans take such a strong stand that under no circumstances will they fund it?

FIORINA: You see, I think that we must take a strong stand for a whole set of reasons. One, we have to demonstrate what we're about, what we believe in, what our values are.

But secondly, we have to educate the American people about what this really is. Is President Obama, Barbara Boxer, all these Democrats -- are they really prepared to shut the government down over what is about $500 million that has nothing to do with women's health?

This is an organization that funnels millions of dollars in political contributions to pro-abortion candidates. The question that I would ask over and over and over again is, number one, why have they not denied that this isn't happening? They cannot.

But number two, if you are so concerned about women's health, then why are you blocking taxpayer funding for pregnancy centers all over this country, pregnancy centers that do huge amounts of good work that must be privately funded?

HANNITY: All right, let's go to the latest Suffolk University/USA Today poll. You are tied for second place at 13 percent. It's Donald Trump 23, Ben Carson 13, you're at 13.

That is 49 percent of the Republican primary voters are saying they don't want a politician, and obviously...

FIORINA: That's right.

HANNITY: ... a big increase for you. I'm sure you're happy with the numbers. What is your reaction to that? How should we interpret that?

FIORINA: Well, I'm not surprised. You and I have talked about this before, Sean, but when 82 percent of the American people -- this is from a Fox News poll several months ago -- 82 percent of the American people now think we have a professional political class that is more concerned with the preservation of its power, prestige and privilege than on getting any work done.

And so when you believe that -- and there's lots of evidence to support that belief -- by the way, it means (ph) Republicans, independents and Democrats. Gallup has been tracking this and 75 percent of the American people now think the federal government is corrupt. That's a strong word.

So when you believe that and the facts support your belief, what you're looking for is leadership. And I think people are starting to remember, You know, gee, ours was intended to be a citizen government. Why shouldn't citizens step forward and lead at a time when their nation calls upon them to do so?

HANNITY: All right, Carly Fiorina, always good to see you. Thank you for your time tonight.

FIORINA: Thank you, Sean.

HANNITY: And coming up next tonight right here on "Hannity"...


DAVID CAMERON, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: Barack, you said, and you're quite right, that every religion has its extremists, but we have to be frank that the biggest problem we have today is the Islamist extremist violence.


HANNITY: You know, why can't President Obama ever say that? He could learn a thing or two from Prime Minister David Cameron. We'll check in with Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters, Colonel David Hunt. They'll weigh in on Obama's naive foreign policy agenda.

Then later tonight...


SEN. MARCO RUBIO, R-FLA., PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He's a very sensitive guy. And that's fine. That's his problem.


HANNITY: The feud between Donald Trump and Marco Rubio is heating up, as is the feud between Ted Cruz and Rand Paul. We'll explain that and more tonight as "Hannity" continues.




PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: We're monitoring that situation very carefully. We have put together a range of contingency plans. We have communicated in no uncertain terms with every player in the region that that's a red line for us and that there would be enormous consequences if we start seeing movement on the chemical weapons front or the use of chemical weapons. That would change my calculations significantly.


HANNITY: All right, that was the president back in 2012 making his infamous red line comment. But when Bashar al Assad crossed that line, the president did nothing. No wonder Vladimir Putin and others feel like they can walk all over the United States.

Here with reaction, Fox News strategic analyst Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters, FOX News military analyst Colonel David Hunt.

Colonel Peters, let me start with you. I mean, they want Assad to stay in power. They're bombing areas where there's not a high concentration of ISIS. Seems like they're there to protect Assad. And in the meantime, then they're lecturing America, demanding our war planes leave! How would you handle this?

LT. COL. RALPH PETERS, U.S. ARMY (RET.), FOX MILITARY ANALYST: Well, the first thing I'd do is make sure that our pilots have rational rules of engagement, have air-to-air missiles on their aircraft over Syria so they can defend themselves.

And at the presser today at the Pentagon, the journalists should have asked, Have our rules of engagement changed? Have we made them stricter?  Can our pilots defend themselves?

Because Sean, I am very worried about Putin shooting down a U.S. drone or a manned aircraft or an allied aircraft and saying, Oh, well, it was just an accident and Obama doing nothing in response, which would be beyond humiliation!

But Putin is out -- Putin's not satisfied with defeating an enemy. He has to humiliate and destroy the enemy. He's humiliating Obama, and he wants to humiliate the United States and our military!

HANNITY: Colonel Hunt?

COL. DAVID HUNT, FOX MILITARY ANALYST Yes, a couple of things here.  We've had 7,100 air missions since we started this very futile campaign in Iraq and a little bit in Syria. It hasn't -- it's just not working.

Part of it's what Ralph referred to. Our American planes fly, but unless there's an American on the radio on the ground, they're not dropping ordnance, so we would have planes come back with almost all their bombs still on.

And the Russians have been involved in Syria for 45 years. We don't know what they're bombing. It's very, very dangerous.

HANNITY: All right...

HUNT: And the policy we've had now and the millions of dollars we spent, it hasn't worked.

HANNITY: Let me play for both of you comments that David Cameron made, the prime minister of Great Britain, and compare it to Obama's comments about Islam and get your reaction. Watch this.


DAVID CAMERON, BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: Barack, you said it, and you're quite right that every religion has its extremists. But we have to be frank that the biggest problem we have today is the Islamic extremist violence that has given birth to ISIL, to al Shabaab, to al Nusra, al Qaeda and so many other groups. Now, these people claim to act in the name of the Islamic religion.

OBAMA: The United States is not and will never be at war with Islam.

And I'm also proud to carry with me the good will of the American people and a greeting of peace from Muslim communities in my country.  Asalaam aleikum.

Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism, it is an important part of promoting peace.


HANNITY: And I can go on and on. Colonel Peters, how is it he can't do what Cameron's doing and identify the obvious?

PETERS: Well, because he's a prisoner of the ideology he learned as a teenager. You know, Obama -- after almost seven years in office, after all these world crises, after disaster after self-inflicted disaster, Obama's world view is still that of a narrow-shouldered, bespectacled, pimple-faced undergraduate at the University of California Santa Cruz! He's learned nothing!

HANNITY: Colonel Hunt?


HUNT: ... a better analogy...

PETERS: This -- our -- we don't have a president! We don't have one!  We have a scared kid in a horror movie covering his eyes from the world!


HANNITY: It's sad, but -- it's just sad. Colonel Hunt, last word.

HUNT: Yes, the other part of the problem (INAUDIBLE) Islam is part of (INAUDIBLE) radical Islam, but the other part of the problem is that state sponsorship like Qatar and Syria (INAUDIBLE) is the money that fueled ISIS.  So yes, there's a religious issue, but it's also still state-sponsored terrorism. We've got to go after both.

HANNITY: All right, guys, thank you both.

Coming up, the war of words between Donald Trump and Senator Marco Rubio continues. Who's+ coming out on top? And that's coming out next.

Then also, later tonight...


DR. BEN CARSON, R-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I think American blacks over the course of this next year will begin to see that they've been manipulated.


HANNITY: Dr. Ben Carson taking heat for his recent comments about race in America. We'll debate and discuss that and more straight ahead.


HANNITY: All right, Welcome back to "Hannity." There is a war of words brewing between Donald Trump and Senator Marco Rubio. Now, here are some of Trump's comments about the Florida senator.


DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Senator Rubio is a lightweight. We understand that. He wouldn't be able to do this. He wouldn't know a trade deal from any other deal.

Marco Rubio is a lightweight. I can't imagine that he goes anywhere - - who, by the way, has the worst voting record in the United States Senate.

You have this clown, Marco Rubio. I've been so nice to him.


TRUMP: I've been so nice. I've been so nice.

Marco Rubio -- he's like a kid. He shouldn't even be running in this race, as far as I'm concerned. He's a kid.

Marco Rubio, who has the worst voting record in the United States Senate, and a young guy, although he sweats more than any young person I've ever seen in my life.



HANNITY: Now, last night on the program, Senator Marco Rubio joined us and he said this.


RUBIO: He's a very insecure person. He doesn't like to be criticized. You know, the presidency's a tough job. You're going to be criticized, and you can't flip out every time somebody says something about you.

He does. And that's his problem. I don't have time to kind of analyze why that is, but that's the reality of it. He had a bad week. You know, he got booed on a stage. He had very few people show up to an event he gave. Today, Tom Brady said he's not endorsing Donald Trump, despite these reports. (INAUDIBLE) Tom Brady on his side now. So he's a very sensitive guy. And that's fine. That's his problem.


HANNITY: Here now with reaction, author, columnist David Limbaugh, pollster Frank Luntz and from the Tea Party News Network, Scottie Hughes is with us.

Let me -- for full disclosure, I like both these guys. I certainly don't believe that Marco is a lightweight. I'm not sure of the origination of all of this.

David, do you think this benefits either of them?

DAVID LIMBAUGH, AUTHOR, COLUMNIST: Well, no, I don't. I don't think it elevates Rubio to get in this kind of a contest. And I don't think it helps Donald Trump.

I think what helps Donald Trump is to be himself in terms of attacking the establishment and attacking political correctness, but not these personal attacks. He needs to curb himself on those not because they're untoward or because I think they're silly. I think the electorate will think it's silly and detracting from the main message, which is Obama and the establishment are destroying America. I will help resurrect America.

But attacking people, his opponents or otherwise, is a waste of time and I think hurts him in the polls, actually.

HANNITY: All right, Frank Luntz, you've examined this. I think Trump is at his best when he's leading the fight on immigration, or when -- you know, Trump laid out a very detailed tax plan, where he's telling couples in America, You make 50 grand, you send in a note to the IRS that says, I win, I owe nothing, you know, or immigration, any of these issues. I think he's better on the issues. Thoughts.

FRANK LUNTZ, GOP POLLSTER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: And he's also great on political correctness. When he took on and he talks about how we have to get away from it, that our problems are too serious to be holding back, that's what Trump does best.

Marco Rubio does best on substance. Marco Rubio knows the details of foreign policy and national security. He knows the details of domestic and economic policy. And so when Rubio is speaking about economics, he is going to be incredibly strong, and Trump, frankly, can't hold a candle to him.

But when Trump goes after the establishment, that's where I would say to Rubio, Don't take him on. And so both of these candidates going to war against each other, it's not smart for either of them at this point.

HANNITY: Scottie?

SCOTTIE HUGHES, TEA PARTY NEWS NETWORK: Well, the thing is, you have to remember -- and this is something (INAUDIBLE) talk about the language -- Trump is coming from a business background. Rubio is in politics. There's no more of a sensitive, Spanx-wearing, PC-correct crowd industry (ph) than politics.

The exact opposite is business. Business doesn't care about the dog eat dog. Sean, you know this. And so therefore, when he talks, all that matters -- is he making people money, which he has.

Here's what's really sad about this, though. These two going after each other -- if they would actually combine, talk about a dream team of what today's GOP needs. They hit every spectrum. You got a guy strong in business and you got a guy who's worked from the grass roots all the way up to the federal level. Put the two of them together...

HANNITY: And Marco, you got to...

HUGHES: ... and we have a dynamic team!

HANNITY: Listen, Marco had maybe the best line in the last debate, when he pinpointed Putin's a gangster and this is what he's going to do in the next few weeks, and it's all unfolding and it' all becoming reality.

All right, so we had Kevin McCarthy would like to be the next speaker of the House. I had him on the program last night. I pushed him pretty hard on the issue of whether he would use the constitutional authority that Congress has, the power of the purse to get things done. Watch this.


HANNITY: Here's what every conservative wants to know. Are you willing to defund "Obama care" and use your constitutional authority? Are you willing to use the power of the purse to defund Planned Parenthood?

Will you use the power of the purse to stop the power grab of this president through the use of executive amnesty, ignoring our laws and our Constitution? If you're speaker, will you go into your conference and say, This is what we should do, we need to unite together?

REP. KEVIN MCCARTHY R-CALIF., HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER: I will unite them, and yes, we'll do it. But you know what?

HANNITY: You will do those?

MCCARTHY: We're not going to do it when we have one day. This is what we're going to do, Sean, and we're not going to be able to do it alone. We're going to put a strategy together, just as we do a select committee on Planned Parenthood.


HANNITY: David, 60 percent of Republicans feel betrayed, betrayed by congressional Republicans! What do you think of the answer?

LIMBAUGH: Well, in the first place, it seems to be moot because I think Boehner's already trying to work a deal on Planned Parenthood before he goes out.

And I'm a little skeptical about McCarthy doing the kinds of things he says he will do. However, since Boehner did get cashiered, he might be listening -- and it is -- the entire Republican base is disgusted with what's going on. I think people like McCarthy are listening to that, and they are going to make some show -- I wrote a column about making the point that the Congress should shut the government down and finally use their bully pulpit to go after Obama and point out that it's he who is insisting on the government shutdown over Planned Parenthood...

HANNITY: All right...

LIMBAUGH: ... which is a vicious abortion factory and killing machine.

HANNITY: Frank...

LIMBAUGH: Surely, we can win that battle, and surely, we shouldn't be afraid of losing the presidency in 2016 over an issue that will resonate with the American people.

HANNITY: Frank...

LIMBAUGH: And the base.

HANNITY: I feel betrayed. You do focus groups. How -- you're hearing this every day. What did you think?

LUNTZ: Yes. Well, first off, I saw the whole interview. I saw both sections of it. And boy, did you push him hard. You deserve a lot of credit for doing that.

But you know what? Kevin pushed back, and he deserves credit, as well. And he offered you something that no other leader's ever offered.  He said hold himself accountable. He'll do your show once a month. He'll come on.

HANNITY: That's true.

LUNTZ: The difference between Kevin and the other -- and I give him credit for that because you're tough and he was tough right back. The difference is that Kevin is likable, that Kevin is -- Kevin is smart about these policies and that Kevin is opening up the leadership so that conservatives have a chance, and most importantly, a voice...

HANNITY: Well...

LUNTZ: ... and that is something that today is not --

HANNITY: He tried to get Trey Gowdy as the House majority leader and trey doesn't want the job.

HUGHES: No. You know what?

LUNTZ: Give him credit for opening up for conservatives to have the chance to be heard, to get their votes on the floor. Sean, please give him credit where credit is due.

HANNITY: All right, we'll give him credit for that. But I'm a trust but verify guy. He did try to bring Gowdy in. And, in fairness, Scottie, no Republican House Freedom caucus member is running. There's two guys running.

HUGHES: That's right. And they don't want to run, which also speaks very highly -- lowly of them, actually. You know, the one thing about the interview last night, Sean, I think it's great that he's willing to be held accountable every month by one of hardest pushers, questioners out there, but he put a loophole in his answer. He said if it's a strategy to win.  That's his loophole. He says yes, I have no problem, I'll push for it, if we're going to win, if it's a strategy. When they use words like that, that's why people doubt it.

And the telltale sign last night that I think my red flag went up when you asked him what grade do you give Boehner, and he came back with, what was it, a B?

HANNITY: A B-minus.

HUGHES: If you give anything higher than a D, I would be very, very unimpressed.

HANNITY: For the record, I gave a D-minus.

HUGHES: Thank you.

HANNITY: Guys, thank you both for being with us, appreciate it.  Thank you all for being with us.

Coming up next tonight right here on "Hannity."


CARSON: I think American blacks over the course of this next year will begin to see that they've been manipulated.


HANNITY: Dr. Benjamin Carson, he calls out the mainstream media and politicians, saying that they are manipulating the black community in this country. Is that true? We'll check in with Sheriff David Clarke and Eric Guster. They go head-to-head.

Plus, the head of Planned Parenthood has a tough time defending her controversial organization on Capitol Hill yesterday. And she says the questions were sexist. That's coming up.  


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." And 2016 Republican presidential candidate Dr. Benjamin Carson says that black Americans have been manipulated by the media. Watch this.


CARSON: I think American blacks over the course of this next year will begin to see that they've been manipulated very, very largely. And people telling them what they're supposed to think and what they're supposed to say. And more and more, I'm finding, are thinking for themselves and are recognizing what really works for them and for their community.


HANNITY: Joining me now with reaction, Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke, criminal defense attorney Eric Guster. I love the hat, sheriff. I like it, looking good.         

Eric, let me give you some examples. Democratic Party, because politicians and the media, I believe, do manipulate black America. Some examples. Every election year, black America's told lies. In 1998 the Democratic Party said you like Republicans black churches are going to burn. Al Gore when he's running for president goes before a predominantly black audience, changes his cadence, his tone, his delivery, the whole bit, and says Republicans don't want to count you in the census. Hillary Clinton, she goes before a black audience, changes her cadence, changes her tone, delivery, and she says, "I don't feel no ways tired." And every election year, the James Byrd ad, another example, every year black America is told lies by politicians. It's advanced by the media. Dr. Carson is telling the truth. Doesn't that need to stop? Isn't that the ugly underbelly of American politics?

ERIC GUSTER, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, the media can do a lot of things, and even just like if you to the far right, if you said the sky was falling, there's a sect of the population --

HANNITY: I don't do that. I gave you examples. Al Gore tells a predominantly black audience Republicans don't want to count you in the census. That's a lie. That's a manipulation.

GUSTER: The Republican Party doesn't go after the African-American vote. So what they're saying may be actually true because the Republican Party totally ignores that.

HANNITY: But you're not addressing the question. Sheriff Clarke, when they say Republicans don't want to count you in the census, or if you elect Republicans black churches are going to burn, that's manipulation.  Doesn't that mean that Ben Carson's right?

SHERIFF DAVID CLARKE, MILWAUKEE COUNTY: Dr. Carson, of course he's right. The mainstream media in America has abandoned their constitutional duty really to be a government watchdog and to be neutral in all these things and instead they have become the propaganda wing, the lapdog, the public information office for the Democrat Party, their liberal agenda, and their leftist ideology.

Look, the liberal mainstream media refuses to tell and write the stories in the op-eds to inform blacks that after 60 years of enslavement under Democrat control their lives have not gotten better. This liberal mainstream media continues, Sean, to not tell the story that under the first black president the standard of living of blacks has not gotten better. Poverty is worse and the schools have gotten worse. They can't find meaningful work. This is what the liberal mainstream media continues to propagate. So that's where exploitation is.

And it's wrong to see the Republicans don't go after the black vote.  The fact is one of the roles of the mainstream media, the liberal mainstream media, is to demonize and vilify people like Dr. Carson, like Allen West, like Clarence Thomas.      

HANNITY: Like you.

CLARKE: Because their voices will resonate in the black community, and that is their biggest fear, because blacks will open their eyes and bolt from the liberal plantation.

HUME: But, you know, Sheriff Clarke just hit the nail on the head.  We've had black America voting for Barack Obama. Are black Americans better off today? They are disproportionately impacted in terms of the unemployment numbers, in terms of median income that has been lost under Obama, about the number of black Americans that have fell into poverty since he's been president, black Americans that are on food stamps since he's been president. And his policy, is black America better off having Obama president for seven years, Eric? Cite me a statistic that shows that that's true.

GUSTER: A lot of white people voted to get Obama in. Let's not segment the black population.

HANNITY: But the point is --

GUSTER: No, let me make this point. I believe in split ticket voting. I don't believe in straight party voting. I have said that for 20 years.

HANNITY: I don't blame you for denying that you vote for Obama.

GUSTER: -- many of the Republican Party, they totally ignore the African-American vote.

HANNITY: Did you vote for Obama twice, yes or no? He voted for him twice.

GUSTER: I did.

HANNITY: Yes, OK. And black America's not better off.

Sheriff Clarke, it seems the black community that voted for Obama some 90 plus percent has been negatively, disproportionately impacted by his bad policies. Why do they trust as a group, as a demographic, why so much trust in the Democratic Party?

CLARKE: It's an emotional thing right now. They're being lied to, and it's a very intoxicating message that's being sold by the Democrat Party in terms of handouts, free stuff. That's an intoxicating message.

Look, the only people whose lives have gotten better under President Obama are the typical liberal things like unions have gotten better, teachers, their lives have gotten better -- when I say gotten better, and so those typical people who vote.        

But blacks haven't even gotten their beak wet. Like I said, the poverty is worse and the schools are worse, they can't find meaningful work. But it's a very intoxicating message. When you offer people free stuff, there's going to be a tendency emotionally to lean that way. And Republicans are not going to come along and offer them free stuff because that's not the way to counter it. But liberal mainstream media, which is what your point is, Sean, they play a huge role in this because any time you have a movement, and that's what the DNC is and the liberal agenda, you have to have a way to get the message out. They have a built-in one with the liberal mainstream media.

HANNITY: Thank you both.

GUSTER: There hasn't been some free stuff. I've heard that talking point. There hasn't a list of free stuff that African-Americans have been offered by the Democratic Party. That is poppycock and you know it.

CLARKE: It hasn't been delivered. It's been offered but it hasn't been delivered. I think that's what you mean.

HANNITY: Thank you both for being with us. Coming up, fireworks on Capitol Hill yesterday when lawmakers clash with the president of Planned Parenthood. She tried to defend the controversial organization. We have the highlights and debate coming up straight ahead.


HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." So yesterday the president of Planned Parenthood Cecile Richards faced off with lawmakers on Capitol Hill over the organization's questionable practices relating to the harvesting organs of aborted fetuses and the need for federal funding.  Watch this.


CECILE RICHARDS, PRESIDENT, PLANNED PARENTHOOD: Planned Parenthood has been in the news recently because of deceptively edited videos released by a group that is dedicated to making abortion illegal in this country.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If the videos were selectively edited, heavily edited, if this was entrapment, if this was all untrue, then why did you apologize?

RICHARDS: Well, Congressman, first, I think everyone has agreed they were heavily edited, and that certainly --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My question is why did you apologize?

RICHARDS: -- every perpetrator has agreed they were done undercover.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It seems to me that your apology is more because you got caught on these videos. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

RICHARDS: I respectfully disagree.

We want all of it out there.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We want to know, too. And I think that would be an opportunity.

RICHARDS: We can agree on that.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But what we've seen so far, the ears have heard what were said.


HANNITY: Here with reaction, the president of LiveAction.org Lila Rose and Fox News contributor Tamara Holder. Lila, it's very obvious to me that there's an agenda. Congress is going to hold hearings. On the tape they reveal -- and the full tape, by the way, is on the website of the group that released it, so you can watch it in total. But it's obvious that loss were broken. Let's go through the laws that are broken, and then explain why does the American taxpayer, why doesn't Congress just give $500 million to other women's health organizations? Wouldn't that be OK?

LILA ROSE, LIVEACTION.ORG: Exactly, Sean. And there's 13,000 other health organizations that aren't getting a half of a billion dollars a year that Planned Parenthood is getting because they have big lobbyists in Congress who have paid off, by the way, about seven of the different Democrats who were asking the softball questions of Miss Richards, their president, and she was deflecting left and right. This hearing did not do her any favors or Planned Parenthood, the biggest abortion chain, because when she was asked about, for example, babies that are born alive in her abortion facilities, she had no answer. When she was asked about the testimony of technicians who were picking apart the bodies of children to sell them in her abortion facilities, she had no answer. Again and again, when she was being asked tough questions, all that the president --

TAMARA HOLDER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: When are you going to stop lying? I'm just wondering when you're going to stop deceiving the American public, because if you look at what the polls are showing, America as a whole sees Planned Parenthood as favorable. The polls just came out. The polls came out that show, the "Wall Street Journal" and NBC poll.

HANNITY: I have a question for you.

HOLDER: No, no, no. Let me finish, Sean, because this is important.  Don't roll your eyes at me. You gave Lela Rose --

HANNITY: Lila.        

HOLDER: Lila. You gave Miss Rose the opportunity to make her point.

HANNITY: Stop whining and get to your point.

HOLDER: No, no, no. Let me finish. OK, let's talk about this. And 47 percent viewed Planned Parenthood favorably.

ROSE: If they watch the tape -- have you watched the tapes, Tamara?

HOLDER: The only thing more popular than Planned Parenthood is the negative view of Donald Trump.

HANNITY: Have you watched the tapes? Have you watched the entire thing?

HOLDER: I watched all of these --

HANNITY: Here is my question for you. They do abortion. They get half a billion dollars of taxpayer money.

HOLDER: And the money does not go to abortions.

HANNITY: Now, it's your time to be quiet and listen.

HOLDER: Don't tell me to be quiet. This is an important topic.

HANNITY: This is important too. My question is important, and it's very simple. Why don't we take that money and give it to groups that don't perform abortions, that don't sell body parts for Lamborghinis, that don't violate the law?

HOLDER: That is not true. You're stating something that is not true.


HOLDER: You're lying to the American public. There have been investigations in six states.

HANNITY: Are you blind? Do you watch the tapes?

HOLDER: I have seen the tapes.


HANNITY: They say oh, we'll make, we'll buy a Lamborghini after selling baby body parts.

HOLDER: -- how I'm a lesbian and I've had eight abortions and it's just not true.

HANNITY: That wasn't on the tapes --


HANNITY: Last word, Lila.

ROSE: We have to look at the big picture. The fact is Planned Parenthood is getting reimbursed right and left for all kinds of services that pad their bottom line so that up to --  


ROSE: So 50 percent of their facility income is abortion. Abortion is the name of their game, abortion and the selling of the body parts of the children that they kill. That is what this is about and it needs to stop.

HOLDER: If abortion needs to stop then make it illegal.

HANNITY: Coming up, "Ask Sean" coming up next. Plus we need your help with the "Question of the Day" straight ahead.


HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." Time for tonight's "Question of the Day." So who do you think is winning the feud between Donald Trump and Marco Rubio, for that matter even Rand Paul and Ted Cruz? Just go to Facebook.com/SeanHannity, @SeanHannity on Twitter, let us know what you think. And now, by the way, it's time for the "Ask Sean" segment. You have been sending in questions on Facebook and Twitter that you would like to ask me. And by the way, just go and you can send in question and you might become a TV star like this person.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Sean. Hey, I'm so glad Hillary is being investigated for all of her e-mail scandals, but I doubt with all her radical connections that she will ever end up in the big house. But I'd like to know what you think about that, all right? Thanks, bye.


HANNITY: All right, great question. James Comey, who is the FBI director, everyone both left and right, Republican and Democrat, say he is a straight shooter. And he's very clear that he's going 24-7 looking into this investigation. Remember, she's deleted 33,000 e-mails and tried to wipe the server clean.

Now, she said e-mails were about yoga, her mother's funeral, and her daughter's wedding, and e-mails with Bill but he doesn't e-mail. So if they really turn out to be, because the FBI says they're able to recover these emails that she deleted, if they turn out to be about Benghazi, about the Clinton Foundation, maybe a quid pro quo or top secret or marked classified intelligence on that e-mail that she deleted, she's in big trouble.

Anyway, if have you a question for me just go to Twitter @SeanHannity, use the #AskSean, and even better, send that video in. We will put you on TV.

But that is all the time we have left this evening. We hope you'll set your DVR so you never miss an episode. We take attendance. It hurts our feelings if you're not here. It really does. It breaks our heart.  Anyway, thanks for being with us. We'll see you back here tomorrow night.

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