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Steyn calls server scandal 'devastating' to Clinton; Christie takes on 2016 election issues

This is a rush transcript from "Hannity," September 1, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

SEAN HANNITY, HOST: Welcome to "Hannity." Tonight, the Clinton campaign is in full damage control mode after the State Department released nearly 7,000 pages of Hillary's e-mails late last night.

Now, the e-mails from Clinton's time as secretary of state appear to show that she used extremely poor judgment in protecting very sensitive information. As a result, the State Department had to censor 125 e-mails that it now says contains classified material.

Here with the very latest is our own Ed Henry -- Ed.

ED HENRY, CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Sean, good to see you. Out of those new 7,000 pages, perhaps the most remarkable moment came in 2010, when Hillary Clinton's e-mail went down and not even the State Department's IT team knew about use of her personal e-mail address and server.

Clinton reached out to her close aide, Huma Abedin, writing, "Do you know what this is?" Abedin responded, "Your e-mail must be back up. They had no idea it was you, just some random address, so they e-mailed."

That raises another new question, of course, for the State Department.  Which officials inside that department were in the loop on this unusual arrangement?

We pressed today at the State Department's daily briefing. The spokesman would not say.

Listen.

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MICHAEL TONER, DEPUTY STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESMAN: Who (ph) signed of on her? I don't know.

QUESTION: (INAUDIBLE)

TONER: Again, I'm not going to answer that question. I'm not going to litigate that question.

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HENRY: Now, you mentioned all of these e-mails that have been either partially or completely blacked out, roughly 125 of them, because they contain classified information. All of this comes despite Hillary Clinton, who you will remember, at that very first news conference at the United Nations right after the server was revealed, the existence of it -- she made this vow to the American people.

Listen.

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HILLARY CLINTON, D- PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE:  I'm certainly well aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material.

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HENRY: Now, as you know, she has now amended that to say that she never sent or received e-mail that was marked classified. There's a lot of debate about whether or not she should have known some information was if not classified, at least very sensitive.

Another issue that's popped up in these new documents, Sidney Blumenthal, that controversial adviser -- he's back, as well. Remember, on the campaign trail, Hillary Clinton has said his advice was unsolicited because he was on the outs with the White House, they didn't want him advising her. That's why he was blocked from working at the State Department.

Well, in this new batch, he pops up in no less than 297 e-mails, at one point attacking Justice Clarence Thomas, telling Secretary Clinton how he should be impeached, also slamming, Sidney Blumenthal does, Speaker of the House John Boehner by declaring, quote, "He is louche, alcoholic, lazy, and without any commitment to any principles."

So you can see politics really creeping up there despite all the diplomacy at the State Department. We reached out to Speaker Boehner's office. They didn't want to get into, you know, responding to the personal attacks.

But they say that the reason why the Clinton camp may be upset is that it was John Boehner and the special committee on Benghazi that really forced the revelation of this server and the turning over of at least some of these official e-mails, Sean.

HANNITY: Also, there's a contradiction here because she didn't know how to recharge her iPad. She was excited about getting an iPad. But she said she wanted to have the one e-mail and only wanted to carry one device, and that was a Blackberry.

HENRY: Right.

HANNITY: So there's a big contradiction there.

HENRY: Sure. We're not just assuming that she used the iPad for e- mail, by the way, because you're right, in previous document dumps, we've seen some e-mails from Hillary Clinton to various State Department aides that at the bottom says, Sent from my iPad.

So the fact that last night in this new batch of e-mails, there was that exchange where she said, I'm so excited about getting a new iPad -- some people might think that's, you know, frivolous or not a big deal, we're picking on her. In fact, as you say, back in March at that first news conference, she said the reason for this whole deal was that she wanted the convenience of one device. Even that does not appear to be true.

HANNITY: And there were some pretty, well, unkind words about Bibi Netanyahu as it relates to Sid Blumenthal. What do you know about Hillary, in one of the e-mails that were released, the former secretary of state was asking George Mitchell, a special envoy, and told him to send sensitive information to a private e-mail, and that was related to the Italian foreign minister.

HENRY: Right.

HANNITY: Did that...

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HENRY: Yes, I mean, I would also add that Tony Blair pops up, the former British prime minister, who also in recent years, obviously, has been a special Mideast envoy. And at one point, he's recounting an important meeting he had with sensitive information, and Tony Blair said, You know what? I probably shouldn't be doing this by e-mail. Maybe I can find a secure phone to get you this information, Secretary Clinton.

So people around her who were trying to help her, who were advisers, not critics of hers, not enemies, but people like Tony Blair, who supported Hillary Clinton, were actually warning her, Maybe we shouldn't be having this conversation over e-mail.

HANNITY: All right, Ed Henry, as always, thank you so much.

Here with reaction is the author of the brand-new book just out today, "A Disgrace to the Profession," in stores today -- the one and only Mark Steyn is with us.

Mark, I don't know if her biggest problem here is political as much as she is in legal jeopardy. And by that, we had Rudy Giuliani, former prosecutor, on the program.

MARK STEYN, "A DISGRACE TO THE PROFESSION" AUTHOR: Right.

HANNITY: We've heard the comments of Mukasey and some other people that -- in the case of Rudy, he has 12 separate statutes that he said he would be investigating if he were in charge of this case!

STEYN: Yes.

HANNITY: Thoughts.

STEYN: Yes. I -- there's no doubt about that. But I think it -- I think it does actually have a political component, when you listen to what Ed Henry was just saying about Tony Blair. Clearly, all America's allies were aware of the problem with Hillary Clinton's system.

And it does raise the question, how did foreign governments communicate with the secretary of state? Foreign ministers, more than heads of government, get by on their personal relationships. And in this case, Hillary Clinton was unable to forge any personal relationships because, by definition, communications from foreign governments are confidential and classified for the very basic reason that if they're not, then they're not going to talk to you!

So if they can't get in touch with her, if they have to go through Huma Abedin or Cheryl Mills or whoever, and then those two have to somehow relay the information to Hillary Clinton, it helps explain why for those four years, it seemed like America was kind of cut off from the world! All the foreign ministers can talk to each other, but none of them could talk to Hillary Clinton!

HANNITY: You know, Mark, I seem to be the only person who's willing to raise this question. John Kerry admitted a couple of weeks ago that he just assumes that the Russians and Chinese are reading his e-mail. Now we have all of these e-mails for the entire time Hillary Clinton is our secretary of state on a server in a bathroom of a mom and pop shop!

STEYN: Right.

HANNITY: Isn't it pretty safe to assume that it's likely that the Chinese, the Russians, maybe even the Iranians have hacked into her system, have all the e-mails, including the deleted ones, which would then, if she became president, would make her compromised and susceptible to blackmail, especially if laws were broken? Is that far-fetched or am I in the ballpark?

STEYN: Yes, I think that's -- no, you're absolutely right. Look, it's obvious that the other guys, the good guys, the allies knew the problems with her server, so we can conclude that the Russians and the Chinese and the mullahs in Tehran and all the people did, as well!

And the question then is, what does Moscow or Beijing do with that information? There's all kinds of people they can give it to who would find that information very useful. I think this is devastating to Hillary Clinton's campaign because there's only two possible explanations. There's a level of deviousness and criminality, which, as we discussed earlier, you can cite different statutes she's broken.

If her defense from that is that simply, she -- she's just a chump, she's just an idiot, and she was out of the loop, then that means she can't run on her expertise and experience as secretary of state when she's running for president.

HANNITY: You know...

STEYN: But the two things are connected. You know, you can't -- this is a disaster for her because it goes to competence, it goes to judgment.  It goes to all the most basic issues you ask of a presidential candidate!

HANNITY: You know, last night, we had on Dave Bossie, who talked about the offers that were coming in from the Congo, North Korea, even people with ties to the Iranians that -- where Bill Clinton would give speeches.

Now, it goes a step further.

STEYN: Right.

HANNITY: These new -- this new batch of e-mails points out a very close relationship that her aides had with the global Clinton initiative and hinting at the important role the charity played in the relationships that she had. She asked one of her aides to encourage the government of Norway -- she's the secretary of state -- to pledge $600,000 to the global Clinton initiative in September of 2010. They are a major Clinton donor.

And Jonah Goldberg reminded us that The International Times pointed out and reported that she approved a huge spike in arms sales to repressive countries that had donated to the Clinton Foundation! Now, do we...

STEYN: Right. Right.

HANNITY: Do we have more issues of legality as it relates to potential conflict of interest?

STEYN: Absolutely! I mean, I think what's clear from the bubble she was in is that she saw herself as a Clinton first and as an American government official second. She's hedged in by Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills, and a couple of people who act as her gatekeepers.

The world can't get to talk to America's secretary of state! But Sid Blumenthal, who we are expected to believe is a tireless charity worker because he's on the payroll of the Clinton Foundation -- so tireless charity worker Sid Blumenthal gets to communicate directly with Hillary Clinton because he's part of the Clinton family circle, but major figures around the world aren't!

And that is the issue here, that she decided that she was a Clinton -- she was essentially part of Clinton Inc., who happened to have a little part-time job working for the United States government...

HANNITY: Yes.

STEYN: ... rather than as a full-time servant of the American people!  This -- this -- this can't go anywhere good for her, and I would be surprised if she can stick with this level of drip, drip, drip water torture all the way until Iowa. I mean, we'll be talking Joe Biden and all kinds of other stuff before then.

HANNITY: You know, I think you're right. Mark, I was thinking about you today. I read an article that came out -- if the Arctic is melting, why is the president ordering new icebreakers for the Arctic, and, you know, as it relates to your recent book.

STEYN: Yes. That's true. I mean, my -- my book is about the most famous science graph of the 21st century, the so-called hockey stick, which said that the temperatures shot up in the last part of the 20th century, and we're all going to fry. And -- and the president, as you said, is now ordering up new icebreakers for all the ice that's up there.

HANNITY: You can't make this up!

STEYN: The fact is that -- you can't. He was talking today -- he said, We're damaging the planet beyond our children's ability to repair it.  And this cartoon climatology, this descent of a once respected field, which has massive uncertainties in it -- nobody really knows how the earth's climate all fits together, how all the pieces of the puzzle fit together.  But they've descended into cartoon climatology.

The pope has declared this -- you know, the first international day of prayer for climate change, and the president up in the Arctic today was making his own contribution to that by saying that...

HANNITY: Right.

STEYN: ... that -- that we've wrecked the ecosystem beyond our ability to prepare...

HANNITY: Yes.

STEYN: ... to -- to -- to...

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HANNITY: We'll all be...

STEYN: That's not true!

HANNITY: It's not true.

STEYN: And that cartoon climatology is nonsense and has to stop!

HANNITY: We'll be pitching tents and riding bicycles any day now.  Thank you, Mark Steyn. Appreciate it.

And coming up tonight here on "Hannity"...

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HANNITY: One day before that violent chant was caught on tape, the Democratic Party literally passed a resolution supporting the Black Lives Matter movement. Larry Elder and Juan Williams -- they'll debate that coming up next.

Also tonight...

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DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I would have taken a little chunk of my worth, which was a small percentage, a very small percentage, to pay the national debt off. And I said I would do it if other people would do it.

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HANNITY: Donald Trump was on my radio show earlier today. We have the highlights.

Also, Ainsley Earhardt is going to have a special report on the rise of the insurgent outsider candidates.

And Governor Chris Christie tonight in studio as we continue.

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HANNITY: And welcome back to "Hannity." So on Friday, the Democratic National Committee threw their full support behind the Black Lives Matter movement by passing a resolution that stated, in part, quote, "The DNC joins with Americans across the country in affirming black lives matter and the "say her name" efforts to make visible the pain of our fellow and sister Americans as they condemn extrajudicial killings of unarmed African- American men, women and children."

Now, on Saturday, the very same Black Lives Matters (sic) group that the DNC aligned themselves with in that resolution chanted this outrage about police during a protest in Minneapolis.

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HANNITY: Pigs in a blanket fry like bacon. Now, the Black Lives Matter group has rejected the DNC's statement of support, saying that it doesn't want to be aligned with any political party.

Joining me now is CRN KRLA radio host Larry Elder, as well as FOX news political analyst Juan Williams and Sheriff Mike Lewis are with us. Guys, good to see you all. Thanks for being with us.

Let's see, "Pigs in a blanket, fry like bacon" and -- I understand they don't want to be associated with the DNC. That's not the point. The DNC associated themselves with them! That's the point!

JUAN WILLIAMS, FOX NEWS POLITICAL ANALYST: No, I think political leaders - - that's their legitimate function is to give voice to people who have a grievance. And there's a legitimate grievance at the core of this, no matter you think about the Black Lives Matter Movement, and that language is highly offensive, but there's a legitimate...

HANNITY: But there's been plenty of other offensive languages. This is not the first time. They have aligned themselves with a radical group with a racist agenda.

Let's go back -- let's look at Governor O'Malley. Governor O'Malley says "Black lives matter, white lives matter, all lives matter." But listen to the crowd reaction. That's what's important to me. Listen.

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MARTIN O'MALLEY, D-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Every life matters...

(APPLAUSE)

O'MALLEY: ... and that is why this issue is so important. Black lives matter, white lives matter, all lives matter.

(BOOS)

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HANNITY: As soon as he says "White lives matter and all lives matter," the Democrats booed!

WILLIAMS: That wasn't Democrats...

HANNITY: The Democrats booed!

WILLIAMS: That's like saying -- that's like you're saying Democrats got up and interrupted Bernie Sanders.

HANNITY: They weren't Republicans!

WILLIAMS: No, but I'm saying (INAUDIBLE) this is the black lives, and what they think by interrupting Bernie Sanders -- which is odd. Why aren't they going after Donald Trump? Why aren't they going after Jeb Bush? I don't know. But they think by interrupting people who are their allies...

HANNITY: All right, why would they...

WILLIAMS: ... they're making their point.

HANNITY: Why -- why would they...

(CROSSTALK)

WILLIAMS: ... they're damaging...

HANNITY: Why would the apologize for that?

WILLIAMS: They are hurting themselves, Sean.

HANNITY: Why -- but the Democrats -- they praise them in this statement! They align themselves with this statement!

WILLIAMS: They are trying to give voice to people who feel that no one is standing up for them.

HANNITY: All right...

WILLIAMS: In fact, when you see police use excessive force, when there are problems...

HANNITY: Different story.

WILLIAMS: ... everybody says there are problems...

HANNITY: How do you boo by saying "All lives matter"?

WILLIAMS: I don't know.

HANNITY: Larry -- Larry Elder, help me out here.

LARRY ELDER, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: I don't know how you do that.

ELDER: You know, Sean, I haven't seen this kind of mass wrong-headed hysteria since the O.J. Simpson verdict. And frankly, I'm surprised at Juan Williams. I read your book, Juan, called "Enough."

This is -- this is about people whining and bitching and moaning about nonsense! If they really want to talk about black lives matter, the fact is that last year, 6,000 black people...

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ELDER: ... black people. Where are they on that? And the number one preventable cause of death for young black men is homicide at the hands of other black men! The number one preventable cause of death for young white men are car accidents.

In the last 30 years, there's been a 75 percent reduction against (ph) police shooting black people while the numbers of whites being shot has flat-lined! It is nonsense! If the Black Lives Matter people really want to do something, come down to South Central where I live. Come to Chicago.  Come to Camden. Come to Ferguson, where crime has gone up...

WILLIAMS: Larry...

ELDER: ... and generally speaking, it's black people being victimized!

WILLIAMS: Larry, you are preaching to the choir. I agree with you.  I think they need to pay more attention to black-on-black crime. But that's not to say that there isn't...

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WILLIAMS: Wait a second -- there's not a legitimate issue that requires attention in terms of policemen who are trained, have guns...

ELDER: You're being a victim, Juan!

WILLIAMS: ... and the authority of the state...

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WILLIAMS: ... do things like chokeholds or shooting someone when it's not necessary. There is a legitimate movement, and it's not aimed...

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WILLIAMS: ... people feel that somehow, the state, the power of big government is being used...

HANNITY: Wait a minute! It is...

WILLIAMS: ... against them!

HANNITY: ... 57 times...

ELDER: Juan...

HANNITY: ... higher, the incidence of black-on-black crime, than incidents involving the police in terms of...

WILLIAMS: Yes, oh, so that -- so we should ignore anything about police shootings?

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HANNITY: But also, people have rushed to judgment and been wrong!  Larry Elder, they were wrong on Michael Brown! The president was wrong on Michael Brown! They were wrong on Trayvon Martin after the eyewitness...

ELDER: That's right.

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HANNITY: ... grounding and pounding...

WILLIAMS: Oh, get out of here!

HANNITY: ... George Zimmerman's head into the ground!

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ELDER: And blacks are six times more likely to be victimized by murder. That's why the cops are there. And what this Black Lives Matter movement has done is it caused an increase in cops being shot year to year and...

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WILLIAMS: Let me hear you prove that.

ELDER: ... and the cops have -- have -- blacks -- black...

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HANNITY: ... two cops shot.

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WILLIAMS: You guys are off the rails.

HANNITY: He didn't say that. He didn't say that.

WILLIAMS: What did he just say?

HANNITY: The rhetoric matters. Sheriff Lewis...

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HANNITY: Let me go to Sheriff Lewis. Sheriff, you know, "Pigs in a blanket fry 'em like bacon." We had an assassination in Houston. We had the shooting this guy in a marsh (ph) in Chicago today. And do you think it's open season on cops, and do you think this rhetoric leads to violence?

SHERIFF MIKE LEWIS, WICOMICO COUNTY, MARYLAND: You bet it's open season on law enforcement across this country! American law enforcement right now are under siege. We recognize it, and we see it everywhere we go. And you can rest assured -- as you well know, this all started on the false lie, this premise down in Ferguson, Missouri, "Hands up, don't shoot," Black Lives Matter, all based on a lie. We all know it's a lie.

Law enforcement across this country are under siege. We know we're under siege. Everybody is scared to death to do their job, scared to pull the trigger. God knows what went through the mind of this police officer this morning pursuing these three suspects. He's gunned down, leaving his family behind. This is something -- the last seven days, we've lost seven police officers! Not once have we seen or heard the president of the United States denounce the killings of law enforcement across this country, not once, while he's quick to weigh in on Trayvon Martin, quick to weigh in on Michael Brown, quick to weigh in on Eric Garner! Not once has he stood up...

HANNITY: The president did...

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HANNITY: He did finally call the widow of the Houston cop.

WILLIAMS: Yes, I'm glad you said this. This is just not right!

HANNITY: But wait a minute. Wait a minute!

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LEWIS: Well, sure, he called the widow. Yes, he called the widow!  He made a private call to the widow, but he's done nothing publicly to denounce the killing of our law enforcement officers! Nothing!

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WILLIAMS: Not only has the president attended the law enforcement memorial service in Washington, he has spoken about the tragedy of police officers serving our community. And by the way, serving the black community that most oftentimes is victimized in terms of violent crime.  That's just not true. But I know you guys want to beat up President Obama.  How did he get in this?

HANNITY: He was wrong on Trayvon Martin. He was wrong on...

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HANNITY: Larry, go ahead.

ELDER: Sean -- Sean -- Sean -- Juan is -- Juan is -- Juan is acting as if there's no connection between this Black Lives Matter movement and cops being killed. Out your way in New York, Officers Liu and Ramos were killed by a guy who posted on Facebook his anger over Ferguson! Don't tell me there's no connection!

WILLIAMS: Everybody who's crazy and acts out now is being linked to Black Lives Matter?

ELDER: There certainly is a greater connection between that and the Confederate flag that linked with Dylann Roof did!

WILLIAMS: Oh, my -- I don't think so.

ELDER: My goodness. My goodness. You have -- in Texas alone, just days before the sheriff deputy was shot, you have a couple of black guys going on Internet radio in Texas urging people to kill cops! And you're telling me there's no connection?

WILLIAMS: Let me just tell you this guy who killed that police officer in Houston had a long record of criminal activity. It had nothing to do with this movement..

HANNITY: We got to leave it there. Thank you all for being with us - - passionate debate.

And coming up -- Dr. Benjamin Carson -- he is now surging along with Donald Trump in Iowa. So why are the insurgents, the D.C. outsiders now resonating so well among voters?

Also, "FOX & Friends First" co-host Ainsley Earhardt -- she's here with a full report on the latest poll numbers.

And also tonight...

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TRUMP: So if you're not a Democrat, you're, like, What are you doing?  Again, I was a business person. It was important that I get along with everybody.

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HANNITY: All right, Donald Trump was a guest on my radio show earlier today. We'll play you some of the highlights.

And then later tonight, New Jersey governor Chris Christie in studio as the "Road to 2016" continues here on "Hannity."

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HANNITY: All right, welcome back to "Hannity." All right, for many voters, this election cycle has been all about the insurgent outsider candidates, and by the way, a new poll proves it. Standing by at the "Hannity" big board with the very latest is the co-host of "Fox & Friends First," Ainsley Earhardt.

All right, what do you got today?

AINSLEY EARHARDT, CO-HOST, "FOX & FRIENDS FIRST": How about these numbers, Sean?

HANNITY: Unbelievable, right?

EARHARDT: Take a listen if you're at home. The new Monmouth University poll has some very good news for the 2016 GOP candidates who are trying to shake up the establishment.

The big headline from this poll is Dr. Ben Carson ties with Donald Trump with 23 percent. But if you look a little closer, the top three spots are occupied by candidates who are not politicians. Former Hewlett- Packard CEO Carly Fiorina has worked her way into the third spot with 10 percent after that strong performance in the first debate. And while he is a sitting senator, Ted Cruz of Texas is in fourth place, but he's proved many times he's not afraid to take on the political establishment there in Washington.

So Sean, we'll continue to follow these polls. We're going to bring you the latest, of course. Back to you. Pretty exciting!

HANNITY: Look at that. You got -- you got Trump, Carly, Carson -- Trump, Carson, Carly, and Ted Cruz is an insurgent, as well, right?

EARHARDT: Unbelievable. Unbelievable! Yes, going to be...

HANNITY: Unbelievable, yes.

EARHARDT: Going to be fun to watch.

HANNITY: It's fun. All right, Ainsley, thank you.

EARHARDT: Sure.

HANNITY: Joining me now with reaction, National Review, Jonah Goldberg, Democratic strategist Penny lee.

You know, I can put up on the screen here, even The Des Moines Register poll, Penny -- you know, here's Bernie Sanders. He's up by 7.5 points in New Hampshire and now within 7 in Iowa, 37-30. That is a dramatic drop by Hillary. So it's on both parties really where this is happening. How do you explain it?

PENNY LEE, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Yes, I mean, what we are seeing is, you know, kind of similar to what we've seen in past Augusts. You know, I remember in August way back in 2003, this is when Howard Dean was having his moments, as well. So it doesn't necessarily always translate into who was actually going to win the Iowa caucuses.

But what you are seeing is that people do want to take a look at what else is out there. I mean, Mrs. Clinton has said, you know, Look, I welcome all those who want to enter into the race, and I look forward to many of the debates that we will be having. And people are giving everybody a little bit of a look. So I think that's what you're seeing on both sides of the aisle.

HANNITY: Jonah, how do you analyze this?

JONAH GOLDBERG, NATIONAL REVIEW: Well, I mean, the first thing I would say, just because Hillary Clinton says something doesn't necessarily make it true. But otherwise, I agree with both of you that, at least at the moment, that this is a moment for insurgencies, right? This is an anti-establishment moment. We've talked bout that a lot in terms of Trump.

The question -- the only place where I would -- might disagree with your characterization, Sean, is that We don't know yet whether it's the year of the insurgent. It may just simply be the summer of the insurgent, you know, this -- and I think Penny's absolutely right. Howard Dean had a long run right up until the voting started in Iowa, and then he had his primal scream moment. It remains to be seen whether these guys and gal can carry forward this momentum going into the fall. But for right now, if I were Jeb Bush or some of these other guys, I would be very worried.

HANNITY: Yes. You know, it's interesting. We got a back and forth.  Let me go to what's happening. First Jeb Bush released an attack ad on Trump, and then Trump responded on Instagram. Let's show the back and forth.

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DONALD TRUMP, R-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Partial birth abortion. I am prochoice in every respect.

As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland.

The fact is the 25 percent are high income people, it should be raised substantially.

WOLF BLITZER, CNN HOST, "THE SITUATION ROOM": Who would you like representing the United States in a deal with Iran in this regime?

TRUMP: I think Hillary would do a good job. Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman. I have known her for years.

I know her very well. She's very talented. I live in New York. She lives in New York. And I have known her and her husband for years and I really like them both a lot.

JEB BUSH, R-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We recognize the commitment of someone who has devoted her life to public service. I want to say thank you to both Secretary Clinton and to President Clinton.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What does that make Hillary Clinton to the Bush family?

GEORGE W. BUSH, FORMER PRESIDENT: My sister in law.

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HANNITY: And Donald Trump told me this earlier today on my radio show.

TRUMP: When you say a Democrat, everybody in New York, you know, New York is like nine to one, 10 to one. People even don't come and campaign in New York for a presidential -- they don't even or waste their time. So if you're not a Democrat, they're like what are you doing? Again, I was a business person. It was important that I get along with everybody.

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HANNITY: All right, so my question to you, you have been a Trump critic, but, I don't know if going back to 1999 -- he went through a long answer today about how he basically was playing both sides of the aisle for business purposes, for his employees. Right or wrong, he doesn't like the system, wants to change the system. I don't know if that attack about what he said in 1999 or 1987 is really going to have an impact on this race. Do you think it will work?

GOLDBERG: I think you're probably right. To stipulate, I find Donald Trump's explanations of his record and why he took positions that he took almost entirely unpersuasive. But on the level of politics, I think maybe what Jeb is trying to do, and I think the real risk is for Jeb here, what he is trying to do is create a fire break so that Trump doesn't keep gaining in support out there. But I think anyone who has already sort of bought into the, what I would consider the Trump myth, none of these arguments I think are going to be very persuasive in shaking them in their support.

HANNITY: All right, guys, good to see you both, appreciate it.

   Coming up, another disturbing undercover video exposing Planned Parenthood just released. We will show it to you.         But first, last night, Governor Chris Christie, he was on "The Tonight Show" with Jimmy Fallon. He shared a few laughs.

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   JIMMY FALLON, HOST, "THE TONIGHT SHOW": Right there.  Congratulations. You won. You're the lip sync champion.

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GOV. CHRIS CHRISTIE, R-N.J., PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: My first first place.

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   HANNITY: All right, the 2016 presidential candidate joins us in studio. That's next. Stay with us as we continue.          

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HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." So last night 2016 GOP presidential candidate New Jersey Governor Chris Christie took a little time away from the busy campaign schedule to have fun on "The Tonight Show" with Jimmy Fallon. It was pretty fun. Watch this.

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CHRISTIE: I am so fired up.

FALLON: Why is that?

CHRISTIE: That we're lip syncing tonight.        

FALLON: No, no. We're not going to lip sync tonight. You're running for president. There's no lip syncing tonight.        

CHRISTIE: Excuse me? Jimmy, when I saw we're going to lip synch, we are going to lip sync.

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FALLON: Congratulations. You won. You're the lip sync battle champion.

CHRISTIE: That's good. My first first place. Really good.

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HANNITY: All right. Joining me, the man himself, 2016 Republican candidate, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. Let me ask you, you love Bruce Springsteen. Does Jon Bon Jovi, who also lives in New Jersey, get mad that you're always talking about Springsteen?

CHRISTIE: No. I'm actually friends with Jon. So Bruce, I know.

HANNITY: Bruce is a huge liberal.       

CHRISTIE: He's a huge liberal.        

HANNITY: He hates my guts.        

CHRISTIE: He never told me he hated you. Listen, he's not all that fond of me either.         

HANNITY: I thought you guys --         

CHRISTIE: Politically I'm not his cup of tea.

HANNITY: I don't know why. He lives on a farm and gets farm tax benefits in New Jersey.

CHRISTIE: That's what I'm telling you. You can't understand everything, Sean.

HANNITY: Let me ask you this -- 59 percent of Americans in a poll overwhelmingly agree with Trump's immigration plan that you have got to leave and then come back. Does that phase you at all that so many Americans are fed up with the Kate Steinle cases, this other case that happened last week?  

CHRISTIE: No. I completely understand it, because they're so frustrated and angry that government can't even do the most basic jobs.  You look at this last week when I was talking to folks that we've got to track people who have visas in this country who have overstayed their visas. I said Federal Express can do it, and I get all these crazy people on the left going, wow.

HANNITY: By the way, what do they thing, that you want to put a chip inside of people?

CHRISTIE: No. There is technology available today that would allow us to do this and to do it well. And what people are frustrated about, what that 59 percent represents in my view is that the folks are angry.  They're really angry that government can't even do the most basic things.

HANNITY: I would have bet any amount of money in 2012 you would have run away with the nomination right there, and everybody was urging you to run. It seems like in this campaign up to this point, you are still five months away from the Iowa caucus, that you're sort of rebuilding your campaign, rebuilding the popularity, and obviously Donald Trump is sucking out a lot of oxygen in the room. Do you feel that way?

CHRISTIE: The way I fell is it's always going to be hard work. Whether I ran in 2012 it was going to be hard work. Whether you run in 2016 it's going to be hard work, because people take this seriously, and they should. Who is going to be the president of the United States. And a little flash and a little smile is not going to get this done. What is going get it done is hard work, laying out things, getting government to work again.

The people in my state realize what we have done when I have vetoed more tax increases than any governor in American history according to Americans for Tax Reform, 400 vetoes against Democratic legislation, all of them sustained. What we've got to do, Sean, is that is the same kind of activity we have got to bring to Congress. I'm disappointed in this Clinton Foundation, Sean. They have done a lousy job.

HANNITY: I'm glad you're saying it.

CHRISTIE: Why isn't tax reform on the president's desk?

HANNITY: I don't know.

CHRISTIE: Why not? Why isn't a repeal and a replacement to ObamaCare on the president's desk?

HANNITY: Because I think they're timid and they're afraid they're going to get blamed for a government shutdown. They have constitutional authority, the power of the purse. You tell me why don't they use it.

CHRISTIE: They need a bold president who is going to give them the courage to do it. And that is what I have done in New Jersey for the last six years. And here's the bottom line is all of these things should be put on the president's desk and force him to veto it. He wants to veto tax reform? Veto it. Let the American people see who the real obstructionist is.

HANNITY: You know what I'm worried about? This keeps me up at night.  You may think I'm crazy. We have 94 million Americans out of the labor force, 50 million in poverty, 46 million on food stamps. You have $20 trillion in debt, $128 trillion in unfunded liability. I almost wish I was ignorant. Ignorance is bliss because I don't think we can fix it. I think we're getting to the point of no return that American becomes Greece. Do you think I'm wrong? Do you think this is fixable?

CHRISTIE: I absolutely believe it's fixable or I wouldn't be running for president of the United States. Listen, think about what I confronted when I got to New Jersey. We were six weeks away from not meeting payroll.

HANNITY: That's scary.        

CHRISTIE: Six weeks away from not meeting payroll, that's how broke New Jersey was. We had increased spending exponentially. We had increased taxes 115 times in eight years and we were broke.

HANNITY: I know you have all these vetoes, but you still have a Democratic legislature.

CHRISTIE: Yes.        

HANNITY: OK, so New Jersey is still in difficult financial straits because they won't let you fix the state.

CHRISTIE: Well, of course. They won't let me do the last final things. But let me say this, Sean. If you look at what the rating agencies have said about us, what they have said is that everything else other than the pension is now fixed in New Jersey. Everything else is good. In fact they didn't downgrade us anymore because of the tough things I have done -- cut 800 programs, cut business taxes, created 200,000 new jobs.

HANNITY: Do you have fracking opportunities in New Jersey?

CHRISTIE: We don't. We don't have any shale.

HANNITY: How stupid is New York that they don't do that?

CHRISTIE: Ridiculously stupid. And I will tell you this -- they passed two fracking bans in New Jersey even though we have no shale. And I vetoed both of those and both of those vetoes have been sustained. But that's the kind of craziness you get. But you know what, you send me to Washington, I'm used to standing up to a legislature that won't do their job. And I'll do the same thing to Congress that I did to the legislature.  We'll get them straight and we'll give them the courage to be able to do the right thing.

Governor, good to see you. Great to see a candidate with a sense of humor, too.

CHRISTIE: Good to see you, Sean.        

HANNITY: Coming up, the Center for Medical Progress released yet another video exposing Planned Parenthood. It keeps getting worse. We will play that next straight ahead.          

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HANNITY: Welcome back to "Hannity." The Center for Medical Progress has released its ninth video exposing Planned Parenthood, and this one like all the others is extremely disturbing. We warn you once again, the language and content of the video we're about to show you is extremely graphic. If there are children present, we suggest they leave the room.  Here is the video.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The whole point is not to have a live birth.  And so the doctor we have it all, unless it's somebody who had six pregnancies and six vaginal deliveries. She comes in the next morning, and I literally have had women come in and they'll go to O.R. and they're back out in three minutes. The fetus is already in the vaginal canal and it just fell out.

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HANNITY: Joining me now for analysis, the president of LiveAction.org, Lila Rose, FOX News contributor Tamara Holder. Lila, what I'm hearing there is infanticide.

LILA ROSE, PRESIDENT, LIVEACTION.ORG: It is infanticide. It is infanticide, Sean, and it's happening again and again. And Planned Parenthood lied to the American public and said that they don't commit infanticide, but they are delivering intact babies and they're admitting it on tape. And the people that purchased the parts from them are admitting it on tape.

And last week the president and CEO of Planned Parenthood Cecile Richards said that they get $60 admitted in a letter to Congress, $60 per part of the baby. That's up to hundreds of dollars per baby, born alive babies. They're lying about that. They're lying about the fact the babies -- they're making hundreds of dollars off of them, and they're lying about the fact that they are manipulating the abortion procedures, again and again lying to the American public while getting $500 million in taxpayer money.

HANNITY: Tamara, how do defend this. How do you not say this is repugnant?

TAMARA HOLDER, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Do you want me to say that, and then move on?

HANNITY: Do you believe it's repugnant?

HOLDER: No, I don't. I don't think that abortion --

HANNITY: Really, selling body parts?

HOLDER: No, but that is not what this is.

HANNITY: Talking about entire babies being born and then selling their body parts for Lamborghinis.

HOLDER: That is exactly what we're told by this organization that has sliced these videos, 42 times, 42 times. There was an investigation, an independent investigation done by a former FBI agent.

HANNITY: It doesn't take away from the truth.

HOLDER: No, no, no. It was spliced 42 times. Nine times in Texas they said they do not earn a profit, and 13 times in Colorado they said we need to speak to an attorney before we go any further with this. And this is a war on women's health and on poor women's health, because 99 percent of the people or 150 percent below poverty line that get these services.

ROSE: How can you defend the fact that the president herself admitted in a letter to Congress, she finally said after defending and saying that they weren't selling body parts, admitted that they're getting $60 --

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ROSE: No, because these companies are the ones doing the cutting open of the child. They are the ones delivering and taking away the body parts.  This is profit. Hundreds of dollars for the body of these children --

HOLDER: No. No. This is reimbursement --

(CROSSTALK)

ROSE: You're OK with selling the body parts?

HOLDER: That is not what this is.

(CROSSTALK)

ROSE: -- everyone to sign that petition.

HOLDER: OK, I am not OK with selling body parts. There have been investigations in five states that have found that this is not what is going on. There has not been selling of body parts. And what this is, is a violation of public trust.

HANNITY: You're blaming the messenger.

HOLDER: No, no, no, because the message --

HANNITY: The whole video. Watch the whole video. I've watched it.

HOLDER: -- for deleting and redacting emails. That's what this company and this organization is doing.

HANNITY: Watch it. They have the whole video up there.

HOLDER: Put it all up there.

HANNITY: They do have it up there.

HOLDER: No, they don't -- 42 times they spliced it.

HANNITY: No, they put up the entire video. Watch it. Yes.

HOLDER: They're a fraudulent organization.

HANNITY: When we come back, our "Question of the Day" is next.  

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