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Are protests fueling the war on law enforcement?

This is a rush transcript from "Your World," August 31, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

STUART VARNEY, GUEST HOST: Question: Are protests like this fueling this war on law enforcement?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED PROTESTERS: Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon. Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.  Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon.

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VARNEY: All right, do you hear that? The group Black Lives Matter chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry them like bacon."

To former D.C. homicide Detective Rod Wheeler who says this has got to stop.

OK, Rod, who stops them?

ROD WHEELER, FOUNDER, ROD WHEELER & ASSOCIATES: You know, I don't know. I think that's a good question, Stuart.

But let me tell you, what the Black Lives Matter movement has missed the mark on is the fact that they don't realize that all lives matter, not just black lives matter. And I submit to you, Stuart, that the Black Lives Matter movement needs to realize that, in 1964, with the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that was an all lives matter act and they need to reread that, because what they come to realize is that everybody's life matters, not just theirs.

VARNEY: Got it. But what this black community saying to this movement, Black Lives Matter?

WHEELER: I think that's an excellent question, Stuart.

And I can definitely answer that. And I can answer directly to the founders of this Black Lives Matter movement. We believe, all of us in every community believe in justice for all of us, no matter what the race is. But when you start shooting people and treating people in a manner in which you don't want to be treated, where you don't have respect for others, no one, regardless of their race or ethnicity, will agree with that, and we disdain their movements.

We disdain what they're trying to do. We believe in justice for all. You know, Stuart, Martin Luther King said one time, he said a man should be judged by the content -- not by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character.

And, clearly, the Black Lives Matter movement must have forgotten that incredible speech.

VARNEY: But it is having impact, Black Lives Matter.

Remember, Martin O'Malley was forced to apologize by Black Lives Matter...

WHEELER: Yes.

VARNEY: ... because he committed the unpardonable sin of saying all lives matter. They have had impact on this campaign.

WHEELER: That did have an impact on his campaign. And that's why people need to look the other way when Martin O'Malley talks.

And you know what? I got to say this. John Kasich -- and I thought about this over the weekend. Governor John Kasich made a statement at the FOX debate. He said, we need -- to all of us, he said, we need to pull our fellow man up, help our fellow man out, and all of us uplift each other.

And I thought that was so powerful what John Kasich said. And that's the direction our country needs to be going, not listening to Martin O'Malley, who doesn't have a clue.

VARNEY: Do you think it's a turnaround point, the Houston killing?

WHEELER: I hope it is, but, unfortunately, Stuart, I don't think it is. I think we're going to see more of this kind of massacre going forward, until all of us good Americans, black and white, come together and say, enough is enough, let's put this Black Lives Matter stuff on the back burner and come together as a nation.

VARNEY: Rod Wheeler, thanks very much for joining us. Appreciate it, sir.

WHEELER: Sure. Thank you, Stuart.

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