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Palin: Trump a shot in the arm to conservatives who want to put America first

This is a rush transcript from "On the Record," August 18, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, FOX NEWS HOST: Donald Trump fresh off jury duty and taking no prisoners. Trump is blasting his critics who say his plan to get rid of citizenship for children born in the United States or anchor babies is unconstitutional. But the billionaire real estate mogul, he is not backing down.

Here is what he just told Bill O'Reilly in an interview you will see right after ON THE RECORD.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

DONALD TRUMP, GOP PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: When people are illegally in the country, they have to go. Now, the good ones, and there are plenty of good ones, will work so it's expedited. We can expedite it with a come back in but they come back legally. Bill, we have a country, you need borders and you need laws. We have no law.

(CROSSTALK)

BILL O'REILLY, FOX NEWS HOST: I said that. For decades I have been saying that, but you are not going to be able to deport people who have American citizenship now and the federal courts will never allow mass deportations without due process for each and every one.

And do you envision federal police kicking in the doors in barrios around the country, dragging families out and put them on a bus. Do you envision that?

TRUMP: Bill, I don't think they have American citizenship.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

VAN SUSTEREN: And joining us former GOP vice presidential candidate and Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

Good evening, governor.

SARAH PALIN, FORMER VICE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Hi, Greta. How are you?

VAN SUSTEREN: Very well. Governor, let's start with Donald Trump's immigration plan. And let me start first with a wall. He says he is going to build a wall. He's going to get Mexico to pay for it. Is that possible?

PALIN: Heck yes, it's possible. His immigration policy and these common sense plans of his that most Americans, I believe, have been thinking just not being able to say because we don't have a microphone like he does. The immigration plan of his, especially the wall, that's common sense. It's a real shot in the arm to constitutionalists and conservatives who want America to be put first by our leaders and really it's a shot across the bough to the other candidates because now they are going to have to explain why can't build a wall even though we have been saying it for years there in the political classes in D.C.

We have been promising people a wall. Now they are going to have to explain to people why they don't support the policies that Mr. Trump has come out with.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Is it program though or his policies somewhat incomplete and that a lot of the illegal immigration in this country isn't coming in necessarily through that corridor, but includes a lot of people who get visas to come to this country, they stay in the country well past their visas, they overstay their visas. So what is he going to do? Go round those people up? What do we do about those people?

PALIN: Well, he is talking big picture, of course, plus specifics, thankfully, more specifics than any other candidate by the way. It will be great to hear all 16, 17 of them rebuild their plans that would trump Trump's. I think that's going to be tough to do though. But, when Donald Trump is talking about the immigration problems that we have today it, inviting and incentivizing illegals to come over open borders and to be allowed to compete for or take American jobs and really disseminating the middle class, especially young black men, young Hispanic men, where their unemployment rates are 30 percent, 40 percent. And cheap labor is going to make that even worse for them.

Donald Trump is talking big picture here. When we incentivize people to come on over via any avenue, it sends the wrong message to illegals come on over. In fact, we're rewarding those who would take illegal action as their first step as they're on our land. How much sense does that make? He wants to stop that and certainly send a message that America comes first.

VAN SUSTEREN: What do we do about the children? I mean, it has always been part of our country, part of our constitution, if you are born here in the United States, you are a citizen. He is talking about changing that and there are some other GOcandidates who said it's on the table, that they would look at it.

Now I assume that this was a constitutional amendment going to the 14th constitution going back to 1868. Laura Ingraham told me just a few minutes ago in the green room that if you are an ambassador for another nation, there is a specific law that says your children born here are not citizens. I don't know if that's true. But she says it can be done by statute. I don't know.

But the whole concept of people who are born here in the United States, do you support Donald Trump that they should not be allowed to be citizens or do you disagree?

PALIN: Well, see and the argument about it's for the children will be used over and over again to kind of portray, probably all Republicans as being heartless. And nothing could be further from the truth. You know, a plank in our platform is pro-family, and a family is a unit.

And I believe what Mr. Trump, and probably the other Republican candidates, once they do come out with some kind of policy proposals, what they're saying is, yes, family is a unit. And if their parents broke the law, and if they're here illegally, well, they need to get back in line, and because family is a unit, Greta, the family sticks together. And the kids have to get in line with their mom and dad.

[19:05:05] VAN SUSTEREN: All right. I detect enthusiasm for Donald Trump from you, because you embrace many of the things that he said or maybe all of them. Are you endorsing Donald Trump?

PALIN: I am so happy that he is running. Here's the deal, Greta. He -- I think Donald Trump, he's the best thing to happen to the permanent political class since, oh, I guess the beauty of the Tea Party genuine movement rose up and shined light on crony capitalism, and then pulled the rug right out from under status quo politicians who just kind of embrace that permanent political class.

Donald Trump, he's got these Joe Six Pack issues on his mind, and he's got these Joe Six Pack, common sense solutions. He just happens to be an extremely successful, and charismatic, with a very large platform, Joe Six Pack. But amazing how it is that he's connecting with the people, and what it is that we've been saying all along, finally we have someone with the guts, who isn't bought by anyone, he doesn't belong to anyone. He's his own man. He's very independent. So I am very pleased that he is offering himself up in the name of service to our country.

Also, having that deep bench though, on the Republican side of this race, is very valuable. I think it's healthy for the party. Healthy debate, good competition is going to make everybody work that much harder. Heck, I'm glad they are all running.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, you didn't officially say that you are endorsing him, but you show a lot of enthusiasm for him. So let me just ask this sort of sneaky question to see if I can get it out of you in a little different way. Is there anybody else in that deep bench of 17 candidates who you have the same level of enthusiasm as you do for Donald Trump?

PALIN: You know what? I'm like I bet a whole other Americans who are saying who is the least political and I will go down from there. Donald Trump, he is -- he is not a politician. Dr. Ben Carson, a brilliant -- he is going to be great, too, in whatever role he plays in service to our country. He is not a politician.

Ted Cruz is brilliant. These guys, they are great, really glad they are running, especially those who aren't part of that political class that got us into the mess that we're in and then kind of fake it that they are the ones who are going to get us out of the mess. You know, that's nonsensical.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. I sort of, I detect a little bit of sort of leaning over towards Donald Trump. You didn't say that specifically, but maybe I will get it out of you next time. I don't know. But, anyway, governor, always nice to see you.

PALIN: You too, thank you.