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Special Report

Trust issues to blame for Hillary Clinton's summer slump?

This is a rush transcript from "Special Report," July 22, 2015. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

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ED ROLLINS, FORMER REAGAN-BUSH CAMPAIGN MANAGER: I think the trust issue is really he what is drawing her back. It's affecting her favorability rating. When you have a 56 percent unfavorable rating in a state like Iowa that is a pretty neutral state, my sense is that it shows an erosion, and she just has a few months that she's been running that anything can undo that.

JOE TRIPPI, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: This certainly isn't where the Clinton campaign would want to be, but they are in the thick of it in all these states.

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BRET BAIER: OK, two of our experts talking about the polls. The polls they are talking about, Quinnipiac out with new head-to-head polls. Polled against a few Republican, Hillary Clinton, here you see the big picture here, Clinton against Jeb Bush in Colorado, Iowa, and Virginia. These are swing states, obviously, purple states. Clinton against Governor Walker, Clinton against Marco Rubio. And there you see she is upside down in these three states.

As you continue in this poll, her favorable is way down as you heard Ed Rollins next in those three states. Also, honest and trustworthy, not a good figure for Hillary Clinton in these three important states.

The one thing she does have leadership qualities, and there you see Colorado, Iowa, and Virginia, it turns around for the Clinton campaign. So is this a moment in her campaign? Is there a problem? We're back with the panel. Kirsten?

KIRSTEN POWERS, USA TODAY: Those numbers are consistent with the national numbers. And so you have to ask one question, which is do people think -- are they willing to overlook the trust issue if you are a good leader? Because that's what those polls sort of say. They are saying they think you are a good leader in spite of having really horrible unfavorable numbers.

BAIER: I have heard some Democrats point to Bill Clinton and saying he had similar trust problems.

POWERS: Right. So we don't know.

The other thing is we don't know if what's happening with the polls with the Republicans is because of the trust issue. It could be. It also could be that she didn't really have any real opponents before and so it was inflated a little bit. And now you have actual real people that are actually pretty good candidates. There are actual alternatives. And so people start looking at that and start seeing, well, maybe I would. Before it was this kind of generic we don't know -- we like Hillary. She is a known quantity. She is a name we know. Now we have got some other people that we can choose.

POWERS: Charles?

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, SYNDICATED COLUMNIST: I think it goes beyond that. It's not just that she doesn't have opponent, she still doesn't have real opponents who are going to challenge her for the nomination in the end. But we have gotten to see her. And it turns out that the more you see her, the more her numbers go down. That's the definition of a weak candidate.

I think what was astonishing in that in some of those polls, when they ran the Republicans against Bernie Sanders, not exactly the second coming of Ronald Reagan or FDR in sort of attractiveness, he does better.
That tells you that Democrats have a problem. Some of you is not going to be tested and who is going to have to learn to do it once she gets the nomination up against a single owe pony innocent.

BAIER: If you are Vice President Joe Biden sitting in the White House, and you're looking at the it Quinnipiac polls, Yochi, are you saying, maybe it's time?

YOCHI DREAZEN, FOREIGN POLICY: I think unless and until you start he seeing the national polls begin to reflect the Quinnipiac ones in these three states, and right now they are not, I don't think so. I think if you are Bernie Sanders, I agree with Charles he is not going to be the nominee. But he is he able to better her on her weakness. Her vote for the Iraq war in 2008 was fatal.
In some ways it's kryptonite. She is now on the wrong side where the party is on income inequality, on wages, on fairness in the economy. He won't beat her, but he will be able to hit her where the passion of the party is, and she is on the wrong side of that, and that's a real problem for her.

BAIER: How much is this email thing factoring in, if anything? You had a judge this week on Judicial Watch case on the emails come out saying "If documents are destroyed between now and August 17th the government will have to answer for that. And, you know, if they don't want to do anything out of the ordinary to preserve between now and then, they can make that choice, I will allow them to make that choice, but they will answer for it if something happens."

POWERS: I'm really of the opinion these kinds of things are not going to be what people are voting on. And the other thing, there's going to be enough time between -- if this drags on and this goes on through the entire campaign, then maybe. But it's not going to. It's going to be old news by the time people are voting. And I think that, again, people seem to think she is a good leader. The question is whether or not the fact that they don't trust her is going to outweigh the fact that they think she is a good leader.

KRAUTHAMMER: Look, the email in and of itself is not going to sink her, but it is the reason -- one of the reasons it reinforces the idea that you can't trust her. What's important here is that whereas the press is likely to ignore this, when you have got a judge on the case, he will not ignore it.

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