Calls for increased surveillance following Tennessee attack

Time to profile?



WAYNE ROGERS: You’re not going to stop this; this is a lone wolf operation. It’s silly. You’re going to have mad men everywhere. Look at the guy in Colorado. He has nothing to do with ISIS and nothing to do with him. You have mad men doing this lone wolf thing all of the time, it has nothing to do with ISIS. It has nothing to do with the fact that he comes from another country.

JONATHAN HOENIG: That’s the point Eric. I mean government is supposed to protect us. And I’m an open advocate for immigrants to come to this country, but not for enemies of this country. I think it’s perfectly appropriate to profile, and restrict some radical Muslims and some from very worrisome parts of the world. To Michelle’s point, that’s the enemy. It’s militant Islam and it’s headquartered in the Middle East. And at a time of war, the notion is to protect American citizens. But of course the president can’t even say Muslim, say Islamist. So we’re back at square one.

MICHELLE FIELDS: Well I’ve said it on the show before. We don’t have a problem with Buddhist extremists coming here and killing us, we have a problem with Muslim extremists. They’re going to come here and threaten us. They’re coming here from a hot bed of terrorism and of course we should scrutinize them, we should thoroughly examine them. And when it comes to immigration- why are we accepting immigrants that come from areas that are anti-American, that have problems with ISIS and Muslim extremism? We have so many immigrants all over the world, people all over the world that want to come here and want to be contributing members of society. That’s who we should be accepting and not ones that come from areas that hate us.

JUAN WILLIAMS: You know I love it when people react just out of fear and anger. Oh jeez James Holmes, was he a Muslim terrorist? How about that guy down in South Carolina Dylan Roof, was he a Muslim terrorist? Oh no. This is like, you know, picking on people who are vulnerable because of their Muslim faith and background.

JESSICA TARLOV: That does seem like something was missed here, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that we should go out and profile everyone whose parents are from another country. This is a U.S. citizen. He was educated here. I think the most important thing we can be doing is ramping up our social media monitoring. We’ve been discussing it on our show for weeks now. I’m sure that it’ll come out that this guy had more of a social media profile than we know about and that there were some links to radical Islam abroad or in our own country.


WAYNE ROGERS: I think Jonathan’s absolutely right here. It’s the public sector, where the Unions, where the SEIC and those kind of people are going. We’ve got five cities in the state of California for example, who have filed for bankruptcy merrily because the pensions are out of line. We just saw what happens with pensions in Greece, it’s going to happen here. And if you keep increasing, taxpayers can’t support it. Jonathan’s absolutely right.

JONATHAN HOENIG: I mean Eric look. Look at what Unions have done to the airlines, to steel, to textiles to automakers. That’s why unions have been shrinking in almost every element of the economy except for government. They’re about six percent of the private economy, almost 40 percent of the public sector. It’s inherently corrupt. FDR warned against public sector unions decades and decades ago. Because they’re paid by taxes, that’s guaranteed, and their able to vote that keep them employed. You’ve never seen job security like you do in the public sector Eric. You’ve got a 99.96 percent chance of keeping your job. That’s why public sector unions need to be reined in ASAP.

MICHELLE FIELDS: Yeah and I think that’s what Americans want. That’s why Trumka is so upset. He realizes that it’s not just Republicans and Conservative who don’t like unions. It’s all of America. I mean Scott Walker won. He beat the unions in a state that’s not a conservative state. He won twice, not once in a state that voted for President Obama. I think they’re scared. In terms of Scott Walker’s record, Jess is making it sound like he’s awful. In 2011, he had 11 percent unemployment. Now it’s at 4.6. I think he’s doing a really great job and I love that he’s putting the state a fiscally sustainable path.

JUAN WILLIAMS: Well I don’t know, if he beat the Unions, maybe he can beat ISIS and al Qaeda! Where did I get that idea from? I don’t know, maybe he said something stupid like that. But I’m just going to say, you know, that Americans are very concerned about income inequality, wages aren’t rising. Guess what? America’s unions are the ones who created America’s middle class. They stand for what Americans are talking about what you’re talking about, at home in your kitchen table, right now.  

JESSICA TARLOV: Yeah, I mean I don’t think that kind of statement is particularly helpful. I think unions need reform, I think most Democrats think that as well. The truth is Scott Walker isn’t good for America for a whole host of reasons. This is a man who promised to create 250,000 thousand jobs by 2010. He’s not even at half of that. Private job growth in his state lags a full percentage point behind the rest of the nation. He’s doing way worse than his neighbor with a Democratic governor, who has raised taxes to deal with his deficit. Whereas, Scott Walker has cut taxes for the wealthiest.


WAYNE ROGERS: I don’t have any because you asked the key question of why he didn’t pick up the phone and call them; it’s just a question of decency. You said he concerned himself with Michael Brown, he concerned himself with all of those people. He sends the attorney general down there on Ferguson. He doesn’t even pick up the phone and talk to this family? It’s insane.

JONATHAN HOENIG: Well Eric, it’s a terrible situation in San Francisco. The President is not a pen pal. He can’t be writing letters all day long. I think it’s actually pretty inappropriate to write a letter to every family of someone who’s been murdered in this country. There are 44 murders a day in this country. It’s not the president’s place to get involved with everyone, no matter how terrible the tragedy is.

MICHELLE FIELDS: Well he’s willing to acknowledge a tragedy very quickly when he can exploit the tragedy. In this case, it’s politically inconvenient because it’s his political party’s stance on immigration that led to the death of this innocent woman. 

JUAN WILLIAMS: I think what Jonathon said is on target. You’ve got so many murders in this country, and I don’t see. Certain political people who are riding this murder as if it’s a political agenda, that’s not the issue. What everybody else cited was part of a historical problem.

JESSICA TARLOV: I think it’s complicated and confusing to understand where and why President Obama speaks on certain issues. He talked about the Charleston shooting immediately after it happened, and I think that’s something he should have done. But also considering how great of a tragedy this was and the implications of our nation’s immigration policy, an issue that President Obama has owned through executive action and through legislation.  He should have spoken out on this issue and reached out to the family.