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'Sanctuary Cities' Under Fire in Wake of San Francisco Woman Killed By an Illegal
Wayne Rogers: I don't think there should be any sanctuary cities. Why should there be a sanctuary city? What makes that so right? There shouldn't be any sanctuary cities. Look, when you start a conversation with the phrase illegal alien, you've got no way to go. If it starts with illegal, you're gone. If it's illegal that means it's against the law. We shouldn't have any sanctuary cities. If you want to do something about that kind of arrangement, the cities we should have is a city where all of the crooks go. We can lock them up in that city, and that's fine.
Jonathan Hoenig: I basically disagree with the whole premise of this. This is a terrible situation, a tragic situation, but look at big picture, since 1990s the number of "illegals" has tripled in this country, and the crime rate has gone down by half.
Michelle Fields: Absolutely, I say all of the above. We shouldn't be giving federal grants to cities if they're not going to follow the law. Sanctuary cities continue to grow and the reason why is that this administration encourages cities to disobey the law. And cities that do obey the law, immigration law, end up getting the book thrown at them. What bothers me is that when the Charleston tragedy happened, we had this huge conversation about the confederate flag, a national conversation even though the confederate flag had nothing to do with that tragedy. And here we have an innocent woman murdered, and we know exactly what's involved (immigration law). So if we can take down the confederate flag, we ought to take down this administration's immigration policies because that's what lead to this murder.
Jessica Tarlov: The reason they were created in the first place was to encourage people who are in this country illegally. I understand that, but they are here and this attitude that we can just round them up and kick them out is totally ridiculous, we know that, we are talking about 14 million people. But the idea that these people could work with law enforcement to report about other crimes. We're not talking about working with violent criminals. This man, this murderer. He should not have been in the country. Local law enforcement should have cooperated with ICE.
US Has Approved $500M to Train and Equip Syrian Rebels to Fight ISIS
Wayne Rogers: That shows you the absence of a strategy. What we have is a series of tactics. Tactics do not make a strategy. We are making impulsive responses to what they are doing, instead of having a strategy that goes after them in a positive way. We should be balancing Shiites against the Sunnis, and we should be supplying the people directly like the Kurds in the north… That's what we should be doing, and we have no strategy, that's outrageous.
Jonathan Hoenig: We're losing the proxy wars that we're already trying to fight, Wayne. Think about it, we have to spend hundreds and hundreds of dollars, billions of dollars, on what has been a foreign policy disaster. Not the troops, the troops have been exemplary, in foreign policy. Americans don't know who we're fighting, why we are fighting them. The whole point of a military is to stay safe. It's not that we just look weak these days, we are more weak.
Michelle Fields: Well look, unless these 60 people are a bunch of "Captain Americas" or "Incredible Hulks," ISIS doesn't care and we're in trouble. And these 60 people haven't completed training, they are in training. And I understand that what's slowing down this process is the vetting process. We want to make sure that they're on our side. But come on, we should have intelligence on the ground that's telling us know whose on our side, where their sympathies lie with a lot of these people, and we don't have that. What Wayne says, we have no strategy, and we don't know what we're doing.
Jessica Tarlov: It's a really low number, yes. Even in wild, conservative dreams I don't think it would have been 60. But it's 60 that are trained, 7,000 that are being vetted right now, we've trained 11,000 Iraqi soldiers, on Tuesday there was a drone strike that took down an ISIS leader in Afghanistan, things are happening but we need to do more. I'm for more targeted air strikes and for cutting off their money supplies, targeting their refineries and pipelines, there's certainly more that we can be doing.
Ariana Grande and FSU Football Star Spark Debate Over Role of Role Models
Wayne Rogers: I don't think it's getting more and more violent, I just think they think they are exceptional, especially movie stars and politicians, they don't think that normal laws apply to them, so they just exceed them, they just misbehave and they don't even care about them.
Jonathan Hoenig: I think they're reflective of our society Eric, it's a society based on whim, based on emotion, not thinking about the consequences. Look, I think the girl licking the donut wasn't a big deal, we all did stupid stuff as kids, but assaulting people, when it comes to anyone getting hit like that, I think it's the emotions taking over, it's them thinking with the wrong part of their body and living by whim instead of reason.
Michelle Fields: A terrible example. But look there's a lot of millennials who are spoiled and entitled. But when you add money into the mix, and fame, this is what you get, you get people like this. It's a shame that she said this and awful, and it's an awful example to set for young Americans.
Jessica Tarlov: No, but I don't think Ariana Grande really meant that she hates America, I don't think she knows what that means to say that. It's part of the larger problem that words don't have meaning anymore, and you can throw them around social media to say something like that.